The revenge of the Decembrists From England First, a lucid explanation of the death, possibly imminent, of the British National Party:
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Posted by A. Linder on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:19 | # It’s too bad Lewis Carroll is dead. I would commission him to scribble a Glorious Threnody to the downfall of Our Snickengriff. Where is Li-Jon anyway? Surely he’s bagged his alleycat quota for tomorrow’s Sweet ‘n’ Sourpuss. 3
Posted by A. Linder on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:59 | # 1. The speaker is the public representative of the party and the proclaimer of a new worldview. He must therefore be knowledgeable and morally upright, having a good reputation as a soldier and also as a man. That’s NS on what’s required for its speakers. You notice that Nick Griffin wouldn’t quality, seeing as he’s a common crook with a bad moral character. Which is of course reflected in his inability to take a position and stick to it. You can’t fake this stuff, people. You have to be you, under your real name, telling the public exactly what you believe, and looking into their eyes guilelessly. These two-bit gluey harrys don’t cut it. 4
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:23 | # In August one of England’s most senior judges, the Master of the Rolls, Lord Neuberger Please explain. Member in good standing CofE? 5
Posted by Wandrin on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:22 | #
It works fine in mainstream politics so logically speaking that in itself can’t be the problem. Everything is more difficult when you have the whole apparatus of the state on your back. It’s one of the reasons communists decided to disguise themselves and take over by stealth. I think the lesson to take from the BNP is if you have an organisation it *will* be infiltrated. Not only from external sources but also for example you can have someone who is totally genuine and then their kid gets in trouble with the police and they’re offered a deal to keep the kid out of prison and they take it. So you can’t prevent infiltration which means you can’t prevent wreckers. Seeing as it’s pointless trying to prevent it the key then seems to me is to focus on an organisational structure that is designed to be as wreck-proof as possible. My thoughts on that ? 6
Posted by A. Linder on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:33 | #
That’s glib. The jews stick to an agenda, as does the left. It’s the right that winks, hints, nods, and screws its voters. Yeah, it works to some extent. Republicans do get elected. But right-wing principles never prevail. That’s how the White cause could and should differentiate itself - as the Mean-Its Party. The white-majority position is unrepresented in politics. That’s the White niche that is actually a canyon. Why try to nudge the yid-flavored Reps to fill it when we could fill it ourselves? No, the slickness and lying associated with Nick Griffin have failed to pan out. “Saving Britain,” it turns out, is not something that can be slicked. 7
Posted by Armor on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:58 | # “The jews stick to an agenda, as does the left. It’s the right that winks, hints, nods, and screws its voters.” The left screws its voters too. They seldom tell the voters: we are going to race-replace you, and you should expect your children to get mugged and raped. Both left-wing and right-wing White voters are deceived by the politicians they vote for. On average, left-wing voters are simply less intelligent and easier to manipulate. They are more conformist and obedient to authority. They vote for things that are impossible to do, and believe that money grows on trees. They don’t understand that the government is willingly destroying them. But even though they vote for the race-replacers, they are in no hurry to be race-replaced. They are being deceived but don’t complain about it because their intelligence is so low. By contrast, right-wing voters do complain that they are being betrayed by the people they vote for. About politicians: The left is more depraved because it was infiltrated much earlier than the right. On the right, top level politicians now endorse race-replacement, but there are still honorable people at the lower level. Right-wing politicians who are really against immigration but end up doing nothing are not as morally repulsive as those who support more immigration. 8
Posted by Wandrin on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:47 | #
I think there are two steps. 1) Break down the dominant culture. Obviously the two can go hand in hand and in theory it could be done by the same organisation but i think they are distinct and separate processes. You’re looking at the BNP and Griffin’s strategy in terms of (2) whereas i always looked at it in terms of (1). Playing a slick game while attacking and undermining the ruling idealogy is perfectly possible. That was part of what was happening and it could have been a much bigger part. That doesn’t mean it’s right for (2) though as the processes are different. 9
Posted by A. Linder on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:50 | #
Don’t you think a lot of them understand that and want it? The high-end left hates lower-end whites, particularly Southern and rural ones. It wants them to disappear. It doesn’t believe its own status will be threatened by the race becoming a minority.
Very debatable. I think a far higher percentage of leftist voters are voting their real interest. They are school teachers, professors, union workers, others tied to the state who are voting in bloc, basically. They’re socialists. They want money they can’t earn taken forcibly from the private sector represented by the right. The media is on their side. No government worker is every underpaid in the eyes of the media. Only private businessmen are “greedy” according to the junkpress, never schoolteachers, firemen and cops, altho they have easier jobs than virtually all private employees.
They maybe be dumb, but they get what they vote for: socialism. Being duped means not getting what you voted for. That’s my distinction anyway. The left is more duped in that they get all the warmongering they hoped would end. Basically the system is a truce of heaping scoops of warmongering and welfare to keep both sides happy and unhappy.
The left has always been inherently corrupt because it’s based on post-christian utopian fantasies and economic fallacies. 10
Posted by Selous Scout on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:10 | # I think the lesson to take from the BNP is if you have an organisation it *will* be infiltrated Sometimes the infiltrators are at the top. The British exiles I know here in Southern California are convinced Griffin works for the State and somewhere along the way was ‘turned’ in order the bring down the party. 11
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:19 | # Again ... Single issue anti-immigration party along lines of UKIP ... build on that base ... stop immigration, increase demands ... gradual radicalization ... successes bring more successes .... 12
Posted by Ambitious Outsider on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:42 | # I’d hate to be like Ah, they’d sacrifice all 13
Posted by Ambitious Outsider on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:58 | # There’s a country; you don’t live there But David, we wonder National 14
Posted by Bill on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:19 | # Nearly three weeks ago I could see a storm brewing, I tagged a PS to a comment as follows…. Posted by Bill on September 02 2011 10.46 AM
and again further down the thread. Posted by Bill on September 02, 2011, 09:52 PM | #
Why was I interested in this story? Well, the ingredients baked into to this postmodern liberal pie has everything. Since my post above, the tale of Dale Farm has subsided somewhat, and has been simmering on the media back burner awaiting local authority action by bailiffs (not police) to evict the travellers. Meanwhile, the site of the travellers has been reinforced with much support from the eco warrior brigade. Yesterday was the publicised kick off time, barely had the bailiffs had time to finish their pr-match cuppa when news was announced that a stay of execution, in the form of a temporary injunction was handed over. And there was the hand wringing nation’s media with every camera angle covered - straining at the leash. ‘‘The tension rose until the air crackled with anticipation’. Read the full story (so far) http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/11095/ 15
Posted by Papa Luigi on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:41 | # The left succeeded where the right has not because they decided early in the last century to play the ‘long game’ rather than pin all their hopes on revolution. They embarked upon ‘the long march through the institutions’ and through stealth built a broadly based movement that had strength in depth and which had ‘sleepers’ in positions of influence long before they were ever needed or took action that might attract hostile attention. We must do the same or else face continual failure. “But we don’t have 50 or 60 years available to us”, I hear you say, “by that time our nations will all be bastardised and will have collapsed in states of chaos and corruption”. This is partially true, but as long as White communities survive as reservoirs of our DNA and with the will to perpetuate our kind, then we can fight on. The dark years ahead will create an evolutionary ‘bottle-neck’, in which those of our people in whom the sense of racial solidarity is weak will be lost and subsumed by the decadent multiracialism around us, but for those in whom our sense of racial solidarity is strong, we will be the gene pool that gives birth to new White nations, stronger, more determined and focused than those of the present. We have to recognise and come to terms with the fact that we may not be able achieve self-determination and the resurrection of our nations by electoral means. We will almost certainly have to form White enclaves and a network of ‘covert’ White groups as we watch the death of our old nations and their descent into multracial madness and oblivion. But if we are focused, disciplined and determined and we keep the flame alive, we and the organisations that we build can rise from the ashes of defeat in a time of even greater turmoil than exists today, and seize control of new homelands and establish new folk states that will provide for our eventual salvation. The blueprint for how this can be achieved already exists, and it’s worth has been proven in practice by the small ethnic group that devised and followed that plan and who are now close to the total domination of our planet. We have to emotionally let go of the dying White nations that lie as rotting corpses on the land that was once our exclusive home. And as we watch those corpses being devoured by alien scavengers, we must embark upon nation building and build new nations from the ground up, new nations that will be virile, steely-eyed, determined and hard. New nations that will kick away the rotting detritous that lies strewn around our feet and will uncompromisingly assert our right to life and a homeland of our own. Of course we must still contest elections were we can, but our new movement must be so much more than just a political party with all of the limitations that being a political party entails. Our new movements must begin with a council that assumes the responsibility of a proto-government, a government of the free Whites, at war with the corrupt and decadent governments that exist at present. And these proto-governments must build around them the organs of the new states that must one day rise up in our name. The councils must be ‘shadow cabinets’, composed of a Prime Minister, a Chancellor of the Exchequer, and ministers for all of the functions of government. Our new movements must be wide in scope and encompass all of the facets of White/European culture and society, and our proto-governments must be envigourated by a new racial religion that will bind our people and hold them on course during the dark years and the trials and tribulations that lie ahead. Start building my comrades. Start building your White enclaves and start networking so that a miriad number of proto-governments are created and so that like a metastasing cancer we will be impossible to stop, and we too will eat the flesh and take nourishment from the rotting edifice of our old dying nations. Start building my comrades, and let us take the long march to the glorious future that awaits! 16
Posted by Clare on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:40 | # I think supporting Israel lost them a lot of supporters, more than they gained by proving they’re not ‘racist’. That and accepting non-white members but that was inevitable, the Zionism wasn’t. 17
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:43 | # This got lost in the din of that other crazy thread so I’ll post it here: 19
Posted by Jason Williams on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:10 | # Papa Luigi on September 21, 2011, 10:41 AM “Start building my comrades. Start building your White enclaves and start networking so that a myriad number of proto-governments are created….Start building my comrades, and let us take the long march to the glorious future that awaits!” That’s pretty inspiring language. Would Mr. Luigi kindly consider describing the White enclave he supports and a little about its history as a model that might help the rest of us out in this regard? 20
Posted by Anchorage Activist on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:53 | # To Jason Williams - while you await Papa Luigi’s response, may I direct you to a PLE which is currently in existence? The PLE in Kalispell, Montana is progressing, thanks to the efforts of April Gaede and her family. 21
Posted by Papa Luigi on Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:11 | #
I’m afraid I can’t at this stage offer you anything better than the example provided by our friend from Kalispell PLE. It is not so much the model that is important at this stage, as the determination to take action in this direction. People of good will and with good intentions will always find a way to make an idea work. Create an organisation with your friends and network and expand until you make contact with other like minded people. Then negotiate terms upon which you can co-operate and ideally unify your efforts. That is the way forward. If we have a large number of differently conceived organisations coming together, that is the way to benefit most from the vast array of knowledge, ideas and wisdom that resides within our people. No one person has a monopoly of good ideas and we must learn best practice from each other, but keep in mind the ultimate objective of creating an exclusive homeland for the future survival and wellbeing of our people. Anything that moves us towards that goal is good, and anything that bars us from that goal is bad. Recognise the leadership qualities in others and don’t let your ego get in the way. It is better to be number 5 in the organisation that eventually brings about the salvation of our people than to be number 1 in an organisation that creates discord and division and ends in the extinction of our kind. Don’t wait for a better time. Just do it, and do it now! Post a comment:
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Posted by A. Linder on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:09 | #
So being a complete lying sh**bag with no political principles or personal integrity doesn’t actually work?
We needs Li-Jon in here to ‘splain things to us common folks, once he gets done refilling the beef and broccoli tray.