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Anyway, what’s the difference between Trudin and Puteau? Apart from the hair. And about a week. And the use of military firepower.
Example 1 a) Autocrat commences upon a population control project on the pretext of public health measures. b) Autocrat portrays protesters in dehumanising and deceitful terms. c) Autocrat gives himself war powers. d) Autocrat employs paramilitaries to crush protest, employs legal and financial terrorism against dissenters. Example 2 a) Autocrat commences upon an empire building project on the pretext of supporting separatist fighters in neighbouring independent nation. b) Autocrat portrays neighbouring nation as never really being separate from his own nation. c) Autocrat obtains formal consent from the Federation Council for his military deployment. d) Autocrat launches his military against neighbouring independent nation. Western elites response to first autocrat: Delicate silence based on the fact that they, too, are trying to transition to a population control model. Western elites response to second autocrat: Constantly ramping-up economic sanctions against Russia, supplying “defensive” weapons to Ukraine. This latter is geopolitics, of course, and not merely a moral issue; so we mere members of the public don’t get to see much of the real picture until the historians get to work perhaps a decade or more later. One would assume that the principal objective of the Western elites is to avoid entangelement in Ukraine while discouraging further Russian expansionism. One would hope that there are no voices arguing in the private councils of power for conflict as a fast route to the Re-Set; though I wouldn’t rule out the possibility. If that world is veiled to us, we can at least see what our fellow British nationalists are thinking. Until now they have tended to support Putin because they think he is a defender of the Russian people against corrupt Western neoliberal and neo-Marxist values. They tend to see Ukraine, on the other hand, as a nation created by a Jewish neocon revolution, now led by a Jew, and exploited by the West and by NATO as a vehicle for anti-Russian expansion (though Jewish support for Pravi Sektor, based on a shared hatred of Russia, throws them a bit). Nationalists here probably won’t quibble too much if the Russian Army goes beyond the two areas in which separatists are fighting, say to the Dneiper or down the coast to establish a land route to the Russian-held Crimean Peninsula. However, everything should change if the Russians push on to occupy the entirety of Ukraine, which seems inevitable. Likewise, a future threat against Lithuania should cause nationalists to totally re-assess their thinking about the autocrat Putin. Ultimately, human freedom and the democratic model (or some form of it, anyway) are not contrary to any of the nationalisms beyond the fascisms. The more of both the better. It is their scarcity, together with the absence of a genuinely independent and honest press, which constrains the political efforts of not just the nationalists but all the minor parties in the West. We should be in no doubt which side to support in Ukraine. And the autocrat Trudeau? Well, his actions have revealed that the left all across the West isn’t remotely interested in the cause of the freedom and independence of the working man. It is interested in its own pathological hatred for him because he’s just too white, and for that clarity we can thank the little Canadian autocrat. Likewise, in one brief, ruthless act he has probably done more than anyone since Henry Morgenthau Jr. in 1944 to demonstrate the morality and ambitions of Power in the supposedly democratic West. One would desire that he pays a steepling high political cost for it, and the woman Freeland with him. But then the stress test on his minority government was passed with some ease, so he will probably continue serenely and untroubled in his labours on behalf of the folk in Davos. Comments:2
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:29 | # Thorn, the Russian military can only stop moving forward if the Ukrainians cease resisting. 3
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:25 | # The deadly embrace between corrupt secular and corrupt religious magisterias, when functioning “well”, doesn’t pursue the “original sin” narrative so far that it no longer reduces the cost of purchasing soldiers, but increases it. The US has gone off the rails. 4
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:25 | # GW, (potential genocide of the ethnic Russians in Donbass aside), is Russia’a objective to occupy Ukraine in its entirety? ... or is what we’re witnessing an operation designed to neutralize Ukraine’s offensive capability. I’m inclined to believe it’s the latter. 5
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:46 | # Thorn, Putin’s immediate strategic objective is to settle, for once and for all, the attempts by NATO and the EU to bring Ukraine fully into the Western fold, and thereby isolate Russia. The question is whether he sees the Dnieper as an acceptable boundary, creating a buffer out of eastern Ukraine, or he has to have the whole country as that buffer. East Germany was an example of the first option, and the results there don’t hold out much promise of a stable long-term solution for Russia. One would expect him to take the whole country if Ukraine’s military resistance proves to be weak. Why would he not? His wider interests are in the Arctic and in Kaliningrad. The former is an economic as well as military strategic interest, vital to the Russian policy objective of maximal autarky. The latter is Russia’s only ice-free northern port, has two major air-bases and is packed with ballistic missiles. To reinforce it overland he would need to take Lithuania, and who is to say that won’t be his next move if the Ukraine adventure runs smoothly? One other thought. Putin may, in one morning, have broken the post-Mao era of globalisation all by himself. If the Chinese now take the opportunity to move on Taiwan that will certainly be the result. That would have serious implications for the globalist project. The base assumptions of the project would be seriously challenged. The whole orientation of Western geopolitics and elite politics since 1945 would be likewise challenged. The nation state in the West could make a come back. There may be a new reality for us all. 7
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 25 Feb 2022 06:41 | # It is beginning to look like the first victim of this war is not, in fact, truth but lies. To be precise, the decadent lies of the liberal Western elites: their globalistic climate rubbish, their Trudeau-esque jab rubbish, their pronoun rubbish, their utterly shitty, Judaic idea that white nations must be over-run by non-white migrants. Suddenly, the decadent assumptions on which all the post-Soviet assumptions have been based are exposed. Reality on defence readiness and energy is breaking through first, nowhere more than in Germany. But the whole post-postmodern, post-nation, Davosian, Metaverse pod-crap ideology looks like its ridiculous self this morning. For that, at least, the Russian autocrat must be thanked. 9
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:14 | # “For that, at least, the Russian autocrat must be thanked.” Indeed. And let’s give a shout-out for Viktor Orban, too. 10
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:52 | # The Eurasia alliance in action. China’s support for Russia turns Ukraine into battleground for new world order
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Posted by Manc on Fri, 25 Feb 2022 18:05 | # China doesn’t have, or need, an ally, least of all Russia. Putin’s actions and the implementation of sanctions to follow will make Moscow Beijing’s bitch .Xi Jinping will be celebrating with enough champagne to fill the Yangtze. 12
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:26 | # Good article. Excerpt:
https://www.unz.com/article/us-foreign-policy-is-a-cruel-sport/ 13
Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 05:22 | # Manc wins the prize for the most fiendishly cerebral and resolutely defended intellectual argument . 15
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 11:26 | # LMFAO!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good, one, GW. But ya know what? The mentally expressed there reflects the same unhinged libtard mindset of the ppl who hold the highest positions—both elected and non-elected—in the United States Federal Government. It’s getting more surreal by the day. For example: 16
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:32 | # Yes, saw that a couple of days back. One of the really interesting questions in all this is how the technocratic model, which depends so heavily on our blinkered individualism and submissiveness to “science” and “experts”, not to mention dictatorial Trudeau-esque authority, will adapt, respectively, to a Putin victory or a successful Ukrainian resistance. It is easy to see the former feeding back into a “population control by fear” scenario. But what if the nation state of Ukraine survives? 17
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:22 | # “But what if the nation state of Ukraine survives?” Of course it’s too early to get a good grip on what the outcome will be. But I have a hunch Ukraine will survive. IMHO, Putin has to make a crucial choice: 1) He pulls his troops out and cuts his losses. or 2) Watch as both his tanks get obliterated by Javelin anti-tank missiles concurrent with his troops getting picked off by Ukrainian snipers. I can’t see an occupation of Ukraine being successful - even a short-tern one. The best outcome would be a compromise which Ukraine cedes the Donbass region to Russia; that along with a binding agreement spelling out Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO. Wishful thinking, I know. But my worse fear is this situation will escalate. That could happen very rapidly. And lest we forget, Putin, the autocrat, within the last few days, threatened to nuke us; that is if we interfere with his plans. A bit ominous, I’d say. And if this war escalates, that provides China a window of opportunity to invade Taiwan. And that may coincide with Iran announcing it possesses an arsenal of nuclear weapons designed to be mounted on long-range ballistic missiles. How will Israel react to that? I guess what I’m saying is this invasion of Ukraine could spin out of control and as an (un)intended consequence trigger a cascade of wars across the entire planet….
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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:58 | # In any event, I think the technocrats will continue to provide the bureaucrats the tools/weapons to gain ever increasing power and control over the hoi-polloi’s every thought and movement. 19
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 27 Feb 2022 14:52 | # Did NATO Just Declare War on Russia?
In a move that can only be regarded as a major escalation, NATO officials announced on Friday that they would deploy troops from its Combat-Ready Response Force to support the Ukrainian regime in its war with Russia. The Alliance will also send additional weapons which will be used to blunt the Russian offensive that has already seized large parts of the country and obliterated most of Ukraine’s defensive capability. It is impossible to overstate the gravity of NATO’s action which assigns such importance to preserving its ‘junta regime’ in Kiev that they would willingly pit NATO against a nuclear-armed Russia in what could become a much broader regional war. Clearly, the strategic objectives of this murky conflict go far beyond the mere control of an ethnically-divided, failed state situated between Europe and Asia. Ukraine is no longer just a geopolitical trophy for western elites, but a last-gasp effort for Washington to prove it still controls the levers of global power. Here’s the story from Reuters: [...] more….https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/did-nato-just-declare-war-on-russia/ 20
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 27 Feb 2022 14:55 | # Putin puts Russia’s nuclear forces on high alert as tensions rise with West
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 27 Feb 2022 23:10 | # I have to say, I find the quite ubiquitous tendency for nationalists to leap to blame “the West” or “NATO” or YKW pretty nauseous. Would they really prefer to live under the autocratic Russian Federation’s fat multiracial arse than the one attached to the Western elites? Isn’t the optimum national circumstance autonomy and independence? My quote today to an article at PA refers:
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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 28 Feb 2022 02:18 | # The following interview sheds light on the central reason Russia invaded Ukraine. It boils down to a national security issue for Russia. Ukraine, especially a nuclear armed Ukraine, is an existential threat to Russia—a threat to Russia’s very survival. 23
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 28 Feb 2022 08:32 | # No doubt, Putin has his geo-strategic red lines and objectives and the rest. But Ukrainians might not want their country to exist as a bloodless buffer zone for the convenience of the great powers, forever adapting its course accordingly. They might want to destine by their own hand and will, and Russia and the West will just have to live with it. It is the will of the Ukrainian people in the matter - not its government, not the West or the Russians - which must be sovereign. 24
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:09 | # No doubt the Ukrainian ppl do not want the russification of their country. I doubt Russia wanted to invade Ukraine to russify/dominate it either. But when the USA instigated the Ukraine coup in 2014 the dynamics changed. At that point not only did that event put the ethnic Russians living within Ukraine in peril, but it also put Russia itself in peril. All things considered; I think Russia has legitimate security concerns. Security concerns caused by the West’s globalization agenda. Is not Russia being a major obstacle in the globalization agenda? Is not the admittance of Ukraine into NATO a necessary part of the process of neutralizing the Russian obstacle? Obviously from the Russian-nationalist perspective, it is. Hence, Putin’s last-ditch effort to prevent the seemingly inevitable fate of Russia’s future: the same future the UK, the EU, the USA, Canada et al is currently experiencing. In a nutshell, this is a major power struggle between the Western powers and Russia. In essence, the Ukrainian ppl are caught in the crossfire. 25
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:25 | # We are nationalists, Thorn; and our nationalism is not expansive of genetic interests and imperialist towards others. It is of the essence of the people, of the blood of the people, and of the homeland of the people. It is ethnic nationalism; and its universality must be respected or we cannot demand respect from others ourselves. Ukrainians must be respected. Ukraine and Ukrainians cannot be respectfully reduced to a buffer, or to a component in a programme of revanchist Tzarism, or to a pawn of aggressive neocons. Unjust Power, however it is itself constituted, be that for or against liberal democracy, for or against Western values and the rest, must not lay its audacious hands on any people of the land, and make itself and its interests sovereign over them. That’s it! That is the argument for our own peoples’ freedom. 26
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:32 | # @25 GW, there’s nothing you said there that I ever disagreed with. I get it! Ukraine crisis aside, my main concern has always been immigration policy. The forces behind devising then implementing immigration policy poses the greatest existential threat to the White race along with all its constituent ethnicities. That’s obvious to us ethno-nationalists. Figuring out how to halt and reverse immigration ... and actually make it a reality is by far our most important task. Ironically, figuring out how to convince white ppl to act in their own EGI is our most difficult and vexing task. Kudos to you, GW, for your efforts. 27
Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 01 Mar 2022 03:22 | # GW , Unjust Power means Unfair Power . Have you joined the Wokeists ? 29
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Mar 2022 13:01 | # Is Ukraine a “democracy” as our lying azz government-media-complex would have you believe? Tulsi Gabbard shares her opinion on that matter: 30
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Mar 2022 18:24 | # My cable tv provider is ATT. At approximately 1:00pm EST, they abruptly removed RT Russia Today off their channel lineup. Gee, I wonder why. At least for now, RT is still accessible on the internet. 31
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 02 Mar 2022 19:51 | # Col Douglas Macgregor Talks Common Sense With Tucker Carlson About the Russia-Ukraine Conflict, Video
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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 02 Mar 2022 22:57 | # Surely, it’s simple. If the 40 mile convoy isn’t stopped by Zelensky’s drones, surviving jets, and javelins before it gets off the road and encircles Kiev, then at the most it becomes a street-by-street, house-by house urban conflict which, just on the basis of numbers alone, the defenders cannot survive. Then we are back to my original question: does Putin want his border at the river or beyond? 33
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 02 Mar 2022 23:37 | # GW, here’s a good piece: https://thesaker.is/one-week-into-the-russian-special-operation-in-the-ukraine-update/ 34
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 03 Mar 2022 00:34 | # Then we are back to my original question: does Putin want his border at the river or beyond? From what I gather Putin would be satisfied with a border at the river. But do you think NATO can stop Putin if he decides he wants to expand beyond the river?
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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 03 Mar 2022 02:46 | # Do you think Putin can stop his “Russian” oligarchs from stabbing him , scorpion and frog style , in the back ? GW , I can imagine the late EU menticide victim and rhotacismist , Roy Jenkins , describing Corbyn et al as a “plague of wokeists. “ 36
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 03 Mar 2022 08:25 | # Thorn, NATO will not gird its loins to stop Putin until he ventures against a member state. It is not even certain that arms and other supplies donated to Ukraine by the West will get into the country owing to a bottleneck at the borders and a shortage of intra-Ukrainian transport. Joined up thinking would have delivered trucks and drivers first. I don’t think any military analysts expect the Ukrainians to win this war, notwithstanding the donations and, indeed, “the fight in the dog”. The optimum outcome for them is survival of their state, probably only West of the Dnieper. In a sense, the more interesting questions are about Russia’s future as a pariah state with massive energy reserves, and about the future viability of the Western globalists’ assumptions about stability and also about the reliability of China as the world’s industrial workshop. Trump and his Jewish family would seem to have an open electoral goal in November 2024, if they want it. Will second-time round make any difference to white America, though? Experience says no. Al, Putin is replacing his sanctioned Jewish oligarchs with Xi. Whether he will continue to be able to mediate between the Kremlin power sources, and thereby survive, one cannot say. The less than stellar performance of the military in the Ukraine adventure would suggest that they will lose ground, and won’t present a coup threat. The economic actors around the energy industry may pose more of a danger. Woy Jenkins, by whose bibulous, hyper-liberal civility ten million child-victims of the convenience of a simple divorce were created, only to visit their trauma in due course upon their own children! 37
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 03 Mar 2022 12:23 | # GW, I’m looking twenty years down the road. Long after the Jewish oligarchs stabbed Putin in the back. What I envision is Putin will be long gone. Ukraine will be a member of the EU and NATO. Russia will be led by an Angela Merkle type (Soros type NGOs will be having a field day there). The USA will be a basket case. As it is, the collective state of the white psyche is severely damaged due to “anti-racist” indoctrination. All the White Nationalists’ attempts to affect change (i.e., to counter anti-white indoctrination), doesn’t seem to make a lick of difference. White “liberals” embrace CRT whilst white “conservatives” are trying to prove they’re color-blind. Even if in the unlikely* event Trump gets elected in 2024, the prevailing power structure will immediately tie his hands and feet rendering him virtually powerless; just like they did to him last time he was POTUS ... the next time will probably be worse. I say unlikely bc demographical change along with the rigged/corrupt election system is heavily stacked against him. 38
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 03 Mar 2022 20:55 | # I’m not optimistic either. It would be delusional. But I suppose I was born in the proverbial last ditch. The fight has to go on, get bigger and better, get (much) smarter, and get its message ... the right message, of course ... across. If we are to be dissolved away, then those who remain will be the least susceptible to official propaganda. If we are to be “re-set” in poverty and dependency, then we have nothing left to lose by fighting. If our elites were that all-seeing, that capable in their planning, then you and I would not be talking across the Atlantic now, exchanging ideas, opinions. Nobody outside the military would ever have heard of the internet. Nothing of our dissent could escape our own immediate surroundings. But they’re not that good. They are fallible humans. They do not know what will happen tomorrow or the next day. They, too, are making it up as they go along, albeit they do that in think-tanks and in the government machine. But for all their power they have to lie about their actions and intentions. They are afraid that we shall find them out and tear them down. They fear us. We do not fear them. We just want to get our hands on them, and one day someone will; for all unjust power falls. We just have to do all we possibly can to ensure that that someone is us. 39
Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 08:38 | # Too true , GW . The BBC , as usual , is diametrically opposed to ordinary British sentiments : 40
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 13:30 | # GW, I dare not get into a deep discussion about philosophy, that’s your wheelhouse, your area of expertise, not mine. But I will say this: the US “elites” are mainly a product of the Ivy League schools. One aspect or trait they all seem to posses is their strong adherence/commitment to radical egalitarianism, i.e., truth be damned, they demand equal outcomes between races and genders. In short they do not think rationally. For example, they believe perception is reality; ergo, their aim is to change people’s perception of reality; a perception to reflect their way of thinking, their weltanschauung Of course rational beings know reality is independent of perception. The the elites refuse to accept realism, they reject it. Aristotle’s Law of Identity is anathema to the “woke” Ivy League schooled elites. The scary reality is they’re in power; moreover, their radical egalitarian agenda is driving us into extinction. In part, that’s my illiberal / objective perception of the present situation. 41
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 19:11 | # Who to believe? Col. Douglas Macgregor or the propaganda spewed by the government-media complex—aka the fake-news? As Trump oft repeated: “Those in the MSM are amongst the most dishonest ppl on the planet.”
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 05 Mar 2022 10:16 | # MacGregor is an interesting independent voice. Here is another ... Neil Oliver at GBNews, giving a rather fine, ten-minute summation of the condition of truth in politics of East vs West. It’s from 6 or 7 days ago, and so from the very beginning of the Russian attack. But well worth your time for all that. 43
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 05 Mar 2022 12:48 | # As always, a spot-on thought-provoking message delivered Neil Oliver, GW. For a more comprehensive understanding of why the current crisis in Ukraine is taking place, I strongly recommend listening to this talk given by John Mearsheimer. The talk took place in September of 2015, but it might as well have been given a month ago. (For those of us who’ve been following the events in Ukraine since the Obama administration, it amounts to an excellent reminder of the reasons/justifications for why Putin is currently attacking Ukraine. [I watched it up to the 46-minute mark].)
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 05 Mar 2022 16:54 | # I’ve listened to parts of the Mearsheimer speech. He is one of a dozen or more influential people who have argued very eloquently against the neocon activism of the last quarter of a century, basically. The point, for me, is that all of these obviously realistic voices are operating from the assumption that 40 million Ukrainians cannot be treated as any other free people are, but must have no national interest, no national will, no national independence because of the contest for dominance that is The Great Game. Well, no; the fact that criminal design is ubiquitous, the fact that it is a historical constant, and that the world is a wicked and dangerous place and everybody’s just got to not be naïve about it ... none of that means that Ukrainians or us or any people should acquiesce in it. The moral cause must be upheld whatever the nature of political men and the money interests they advance. I don’t think Mearsheimer understands nationalism in this defensive sense. He speaks of his writing about Nazi Germany, he speaks of nationalism in China and in Japan; but I think I am right in saying that he doesn’t speak of peoples. For him, everything revolves around history, power, prestige; and it’s just depressing, frankly. 45
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 05 Mar 2022 16:56 | # Global Guerrllia’s Report on Ukraine: “Swarms vs Nukes” Robb’s analytic framework, first laid out in his book “Brave New War” is useful in general, but particularly applicable to the current situation and its unrecognized dangers. I’m not so sure “Open Source Warfare” is any more accurate than the more evocative “Mob Warfare” but either way it is vastly more accurate than is the analytic framework in use by any of those who control the fate of mankind under the current global economy’s hubris. 46
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 06 Mar 2022 01:35 | # @45 The West’s illogical strategy of countering Russia’s defensive actions WRT Ukraine’s real threat to Russian security is akin to treating and alcoholic by prescribing him crack cocaine. IOWs our Western “leaders” are, in fact, exacerbating the situation to the point of making thermo-nuclear war is a real possibility—possibly inevitable. But hey, at least we didn’t back down to an “autocrat”! (That’s our State Depatments’s mentality.) But the crucial question is: is the USA’s hubris worth it? Maybe the solution to this potential catastrophe would be to make Ukraine a neutral country? Is that too much to ask of the hubristic posture of the USA’s ruling-class? Evidentially it is. Apparently, it is. My only question is how long before the nukes fly? 47
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 06 Mar 2022 23:54 | # Government of Poland Outlines U.S. State Dept Secretary Anthony Blinken as a Liar
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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 07 Mar 2022 01:11 | # @44 How much do you think Russians value their identity as Russians? I think they value their innate identity more than anything the Western elites can tolerate. I respect the Russians for that. 49
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2022 10:12 | # Russians are normally ethnocentric people. But they are Eurasians, not Europeans. Europe likely ends at the Dnieper. To the east are a people with quite markedly different sociobiology, particular in respect to authority. 50
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 07 Mar 2022 12:55 | # I don’t think geographic lines arbitrarily drawn on a map matter, i.e., “Europe ends at the Dnieper.” What matters is genetic similarity within and between human populations. The fact is most Russians are virtually genetically identically to Ukrainians. I find it despicable how the Western elites instigated a war between Russia and Ukraine. I regard it as part and parcel to the Genocide by Stealth being perpetrated against the White race. 51
Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 12 Mar 2022 03:07 | # GW , Russia was an Empire which encompassed the recent cartographical designation , Eurasia, and , of Imperial necessity, required the civilizing presence of actual ethnic Russians. To label Russians as “Eurasians” is to call Afro - Caribbeans and Subcontinental Indians Englishmen. 52
Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 01:15 | # GW—“The point, for me, is that all of these obviously realistic voices are operating from the assumption that 40 million Ukrainians cannot be treated as any other free people are, but must have no national interest, no national will, no national independence because of the contest for dominance that is The Great Game” These Ukrainians exercised their free will in an election in which they voted for a comedian who had danced on TV dressed in s and m gear and high heels, who represented a party called ‘servant of the people’ named after the TV series in which he had starred, a TV series which had been bankrolled by one of Ukraine’s richest Jewish oligarchs, Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who had previously helped fund the Azov battalion and whose entire life is a litany of political and financial corruption (his wiki is most instructive). There is no ‘national will’ being expressed here—just desperate people lacking in media savvy being manipulated by their elites into letting the West use their nation as a pawn against Russia. The country’s borders are a product of Soviet meddling. Do you really think they would have consciously created a viable nation with workable borders and a unified population, a nation sat on top of much of their industrial and energy needs, if they could possibly have helped it?! Ukraine was designed NOT to work. Hell, democracy doesn’t work so well over here, and the West has a more intelligent, less volatile population (historically at least) and a longer period of successful home rule from which to draw upon. NATO, America and the West—the Kagans and Nulands of America’s deep state—are exploiting the divisions and weaknesses of Ukraine society in just such a way as the Soviets themselves would have done. Putin has spent the last twenty years complaining impotently from the sidelines that his nation was the victim of dirty tricks and ill intentions from the West. In this respect, he has acted like all good Western conservatives, who on a daily basis pick themselves up and wipe the mud from their glasses, clearing their voice and informing the laughing school bully that taking their lunch money is against school rules. But now it seems that he has decided that doing nothing invites the certain, inevitable death of his nation, and he has decided to do something. ‘No, you should just have kept impotently complaining as your enemies worked against you, it’s the only honourable thing to do!’ cry British conservatives. How’s that strategy been working out of us, lately?
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Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 08:06 | # Two further thoughts: There are two empires butting up against one another in Ukraine. If I have more sympathy for Putin it is in part because we aren’t allowed to mention the fact that one of them is an Empire. Putin has to make his moves, and his mistakes, in the open, relatively speaking. And also the fact that I live in that other empire. The Nazis killed 20 million in the Soviet Union. Putin’s own infant brother died during the siege of Leningrad. Both in his own family and nation Putin can say he has suffered more at their hands than almost anyone else in the world. If the Jews have had their Never Again—their sacred veto—which has allowed the establishment of the State of Israel, and all the further actions of that country, then why should the Russians not have their own ‘Never Again’—one about the unity of Slavs in the face of a common civilizational threat, for example? That’s a rhetorical question of course. But when I see how little this angle means to Jews and the media, even when these victims of Nazis are actually fighting REAL Nazis (trained by America no less) then you have to be sceptical about their claims of outage on behalf of Ukrainians now. Or indeed, about Nazis. 54
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 09:31 | # Slavs are not one people, just as Nordics and Mediterraneans are not one people. Ukrainians were a great power centred on Kiev when Moscow was a little village. The Kievan Rus humbled the Khazars. Today, Ukrainians desire to be a modern state, not a buffer for the use and convenience of an imperialistic multiracial federation to the north. It is beginning to look like they will get their way, much to the surprise of military strategists across the West who had assumed pretty much since Stalingrad that raw Russian manpower and firepower would always prove to be formidable on any battlefield. We all began, three weeks ago, expecting an inevitable Russian victory. Then we moved to the expectation that Putin would reinforce the invasion with his prime fighting force. Now the suspicion is that Russian power is simply not as advertised, and short of nuclear warheads nothing they throw at the Ukrainians will get them the victory they want. The world is entering a time of change, and it is as yet too early to say with much certainty what that change will be. Among the possibilities: Ukraine will relinquish something for peace, certainly including the wish for NATO membership. It may refuse to give up on EU membership, though. In any case, Brussels will be strengthened diplomatically. But Germany may lose some of its heft to France. The hand of the Visigrad countries within the EU will be strengthened. Outside the EU, Britain will be strengthened geopolitically. American self-absorption will take a hit. As the West’s political decline and galloping decadence is questioned, America will likely move electorally further rightward. Russia will be damaged economically, politically, and geopolitically for the next twenty years at least. China will be more wary of Western economic clout. The Western elites’ drive for The Globality will suffer some loss to its key green agenda as national energy security considerations weigh in. The cause of peoples of the land has also been boosted by Ukrainians’ stirring resistance, and that may have long-term consequences. 55
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:01 | # “We all began, three weeks ago, expecting an inevitable Russian victory.” At any rate, we, in the West, are so bombarded by anti-Putin propaganda that we’re unable to form an objective opinion. If anyone is so naive as to form their opinions based on the slanted/bias info MSM feeds them then that person is indeed a fool. 56
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:57 | # “Today, Ukrainians desire to be a modern state, not a buffer for the use and convenience of an imperialistic multiracial federation to the north.” Are you viewing the situation from too narrow a scope, GW? Isn’t what’s taking place part of a much larger plan? I.e., both Russia and Ukraine are in the process of being subsumed by the NWO gang. Or at least the NWO gang is attempting to subsume them. Abp. Viganò: Globalists have fomented war in Ukraine to establish the tyranny of the New World Order 57
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 15:33 | # Is Elon Musk amongst the readership of MR? Perhaps a protégé of JB? 58
Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:43 | # I’ve read the comments in this thread and elsewhere to try and get a sense of where GW’s head is at on this subject, because I must admit I’ve found it hard to understand why British conservatives have rallied so strongly towards Ukraine, when to me the track record of our own media and establishment towards us has been so overwhelmingly bad that I don’t see how you can’t give credence to the idea that America are using the far right in the Ukraine in the way they used ISIS in Syria, and that they really do have a long term goal of destroying Russia, or provoking a war involving Russia for other reasons. I guess I must seem like a conspiracy theorist to them, that’s the response of many people when I mentioned it on the Spectator site. But they seem equally odd to me. I’m not sure I agree with GW’s idea that the nationalist nation wants what it wants, and must always listen to its heart, and if that means joining the EU or Nato, then that is what must be done. Isn’t that a little romantic? Aren’t nations endowed with different strengths and weaknesses, and isn’t location one of them, and isn’t it up to a responsible government to pursue a policy which is pragmatic and honest with itself about what it can expect and the relative losses that might be incurred by pursuing different courses of action? Didn’t the debate about Brexit in Britain revolve in large part about our relationship with our neighbours precisely because in the real world we are constrained by our neighbours, and if the net result of your nationalist demand to do what you want is that you end up being invaded and millions of your young people in your low TFR nation leave and maybe never return, wouldn’t the government be guilty of a catastrophic error? But Zelensky seems to be a man who has his orders, and he’s sticking to them. Downgrading the Russian language, the fostering of extreme right wing and Russian organisations, the recent hints that Ukraine should acquire nuclear weapons. This was reckless, this was not the action of a man who was trying to create a positive atmosphere with his neighbour, was it? 59
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 15 Mar 2022 01:47 | # Thorn, I grant that you were predicting the eventual weakness of Russian arms against the long rage of the wounded Ukrainian nation. SOANM, Always, the position of any genuine ethnic nationalist must be that the life and will of the people of the land is the highest value in play. Always, the native people, by their struggle, light the moral path for the rest of us. Geopolitics, anti-globalism, counter-Jewish argument ... all that only distracts from that simple rule. I am aghast at the volume of otherwise decent, thinking nationalists who cannot get past their own outrage at the lying MSM or the lying government, and of course the Jewish neocon aspect of it. I have seen some really stupid claims of fakery, straight out of the Kremlin school of opinion control. Once one goes down that road of reactionary, utilitarian argument one sacrifices the rock on which the defence of our own people is founded. This test has found a lot of us out. It has shown us that a great number are utterly possessed by the Jew thing, and just can’t think any other way. It’s worrying. 60
Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 16 Mar 2022 01:44 | # I observed this trend too , GW . But then I am a Racially Motivated Nationalist. 61
Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 16 Mar 2022 02:10 | # 62
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:42 | # #nuclear electromagnetic pulse
LONDON, March 17 (Reuters) - Russia warned the United States on Thursday that Moscow had the might to put the world’s pre-eminent superpower in its place and accused the West of stoking a wild Russophobic plot to tear Russia apart. Dmitry Medvedev, who served as president from 2008 to 2012 and is now deputy secretary of Russia’s Security Council, said the United States had stoked “disgusting” Russophobia in an attempt to force Russia to its knees. Since Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, the United States and its European and Asian allies have slapped sanctions on Russian leaders, companies and businessmen, cutting off Russia from much of the world economy. President Vladimir Putin says that what he calls the special military operation in Ukraine was necessary because the United States was using Ukraine to threaten Russia and Russia had to defend against the “genocide” of Russian-speaking people by Ukraine. Ukraine says it is fighting for its existence and that Putin’s claims of genocide are nonsense. The West says claims it wants to rip Russia apart are fiction. Russia says that despite sanctions it can fare well without what it casts as a deceitful and decadent West led by the United States. It says its bid to forge ties with the West after the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union is now over and that it will develop ties with other powers such as China. 63
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:57 | # Fox News, Ukraine and the Onset of the New World Order March 17, 2022
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RTWT https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/no_author/fox-news-ukraine-and-the-onset-of-the-new-world-order/
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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 18 Mar 2022 00:01 | # Couple of interesting articles in the Telegraph. First, on the Russian response to its failure in the cities:
And this from Fraser Nelson: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/03/17/putins-phoney-war-woke-fooled-populist-right-left/
The first piece, which reports on work by the Royal United Services Institute, has the ring of authenticity to it. One would hope that the Ukrainian army command will give it due consideration. Of course, it may be that “a lightning strike” northward isn’t any more deliverable than the strike southwards that was supposed to lead to the fall of Kiev. The second piece is interesting because it calls into question the model of geopolitical conflict in which nationalists in the West have become so invested. Again, it seems unlikely in the extreme that Putin has any interest in defending the world from Western decadence. He stands exposed as a liar and a terroriser of civilians. He is not a counterweight to the neocons. He is a competitor. 65
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:14 | # “He stands exposed as a liar and a terroriser of civilians.” Indeed. There’s no getting around that. The best outcome I see is Putin accepts a compromise from Zelenski and uses it as an off-ramp. But that must be followed by the Russian people themselves removing Putin from power. The compromise is essential in stopping escalation towards nuclear war. The subsequent removal of Putin from power is necessary - for a whole host of reasons - in restoring the stability of Western economies ... and that would include the Russian economy. The magnitude of Putin’s F-ups are way too large for him to be allowed to retain power. 66
Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 01:10 | # I’m not sure i’d take Fraser Nelson’s view on anything. He’s turned the Spectator into a neocon, pro-immigration mess. It’s notable that almost all the voices on the right today—Rod Liddle, Julie Bindel, Julie Burchill—are all left wing, and it’s not like any of them have really changed their views. Simply pointing out that men competing in women’s sports will win all the medals is enough to be a conservative polemicist these days. Even in the Fraser Nelson clip above he describes Hungarians as Slavs, and attributes the affinity which some conservatives have for Russia compared to their own nations to part of some nefarious propaganda effort by Putin, rather than the natural disgust felt by many people in this place they call ‘the West’ towards our own governments. Fraser’s wrong on both counts. I mean, take this: “Surveys in Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary showed that most voters said Putin has been “cynically pretending to stand up for European values”. Well, call me a cynic but what exactly were these surveys asking to get a response like that, and who were they being conducted for? It would also help if Fraser Nelson could be a little more explicit about the European values Putin is pretending to have. If he is talking about traditional family values and notions of masculinity and femininity then, in the first place, even if Putin was merely posturing on these issues that would still put him a long way ahead of the leaders in the Anglo Saxon world, and in the second place Russia really does have laws aimed at protecting children from gay propaganda and the like, so in fact it’s not mere posturing. There is however a certain amount of hypocrisy from Fraser Nelson on this issue. This is from a 2020 article in the Spectator by Debbie Hayton: “Transphobia is a word thrown around far too easily. But Hungary’s move to end legal recognition of trans people really is something to worry about. While Britain has been embroiled in a heated debate over proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act, which allows people to change their legal gender on the production of medical reports and a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, in Hungary, Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz government has swept such rights away…” This is supposedly from a conservative magazine? Is Fraser Nelson really the man who’s got the moral well being of East Europeans at heart, and who is going to tell us who is faking their ‘European values’? 67
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:17 | # GW, After reading SOANM’s comment @ 66, I can’t help but reverse course, again, and lean towards supporting Putin’s side. The points SOANM made, and after becoming aware of the types of high-tech weapons (Javelin missiles, Switchblade drones, etc.), along with the covert CIA insurgency training the USA has been providing select Ukrainian forces, I can’t help but think the USA is using Ukraine as a deliberately planned in advance proxy war with Russia. IOWs this conflict in Ukraine is a de facto hot war between the USA and Russia. A war that’s been brewing since the CIA backed color revolution of 2013-2014, BTW. The larger question is will it escalate beyond the border of Ukraine? What military options does Russia have to fight against the USA/NATO? Obviously, Russia does not have the conventional military power to go up against the USA, so that leaves them cyber-warfare and WMD - particularly nukes. Will the USA back-off before pushing Russia too far? 68
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:24 | # Fraser, in this one respect, is a stopped clock. He has written what far too many nationalists - basically Single Jewish Causers - are too blinded by their pride and cynicism to see, which is that even as “my enemy’s geopolitical enemy” Vladimir Putin fails the utilitarian test. He is not a friend to the cause of European national liberation, even an accidental one. He is not fighting against Western decadence. He is not in Ukraine to protest “gay” rights. He is in Ukraine because he’s a psychopath fighting for Russian empire and his own place in Russian history. Nationalists have completely and wilfully misunderstood, and now find themselves trying to deny the shattering of Ukrainian cities and the strategic attack on civilian populations, specifically including children and the sick (as if that could ever be faked up with Photoshop or whatever or, as it is not faked, justified as fighting the Judaic power). It is sickening and shameful for nationalists to be so suggestible and detached from common morality. I thought I knew who these people are. But now I realise I don’t know them at all. 69
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:37 | # Thorn, it is a simple issue. Either one knows and loves one’s people and hence, through that indispensable strength, can tender respect to all settled humanity, or one is another type of nationalist altogether, for whom power, and probably power sans limit, is the over-riding goal. It remains Heidegger versus Nietzsche’s sister. Take your pick. But stick by it. 70
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:39 | # GW, I can’t help but thinking IF Putin—along with the Russian elites—would just embrace the “wokeism”, Russia wouldn’t be considered the West’s enemy-number-one. Instead, the Russians and the Western “elites” are in an epic ideological/cultural war that tragically turned hot. All things considered I lay the lion’s-share of the blame for the violence on Western “elites”; they instigated it. Nick Griffen is spot-on when he said: ” .... one shouldn’t overlook the influence of ideology and personal sexual obsessions in Western decision-making circles. There is in all this an element of a woke, liberal ‘crusade’ for ‘our liberal values’ against the ‘archaic Christian traditionalism’ which they see and detest in Russia.” Obviously most Western “elites” have become both intellectually degenerate and morally bankrupt. 71
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:30 | # At bottom, fighting for A is not the same as fighting against B. It may correlate, or seem to. But while fighting for is operatively grounded, fighting against reverses the causal direction. Those nationalists fighting against work backwards from reaction and often from utilitarianism, and do so in a two-part process. The first part is the reaction to the perceived foe of, say, Western decadence or Jewish activism or global elites or whatever. The unexamined presumption here is that it is inevitable that the removal of “bad” Western decadence or Jewish activism or global elites or whatever will, of itself, produce a predictably “good” world-outcome. This presumption rests on a second, equally unexamined presumption, namely that the operative process will be isostatic ... that benignity will rise quite mechanically everywhere. I’ve previously labelled these here, respectively, as inevitablism and isostacism, for they truly are “isms”. They are not nationalism as such. The “against” phenomenon is basically a variety of “something must be done”. The interesting question is whether the “for” phenomenon, while holding to an articulated historical cause, is any less effective. The Ukrainians are modelling “for”. Many Western nationalists are modelling “against”. 72
Posted by Manc on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:46 | # Lest we forget… What Kumiko omitted to say is that Putin doesn’t really care about Jews. Just as he doesn’t really care about the Russian Orthodox Church, however, like a maestro who gets his hands on a Stradivarius, he does love to play them. The sweetest notes to his ears emanate from the far-right in the West. The Glasnost Suite conducted by Himself. Sorry to read you now feel that you no longer know certain people, GW, but don’t despair. There is always someone worse off than yourself. For example, at times like this I feel like we are totally fucked. As an aside, does anyone actually pay attention to , much less believe, anything Old Nick (Griffin) says these days? Didn’t think so. 73
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 22:21 | # Russia could have been our ally, but Western elites chose to make them the enemy. It’s been oft reported (open source) the Deep State never gave up on their Cold War mindset. They didn’t bc that’s what their “business model” was set up on. The Cold War mindset was indelibly ingrained in the intelligence community’s culture, I suppose. It just pisses me off to no end that white countries choose other white countries as their enemies. In the case of Russia there was no pressing need to do that. Wouldn’t it have been so much more beneficial for the West (read: white ppl) to have forged a friendly relationship with Russia rather than instigated an adversarial one? But after 30 years of maliciously poking the Bear, it predictably resulted in Ukraine going up in smoke concomitant with three to four million Ukrainian refugees fleeing the country. Moreover, Lil’ Pooty Poot Putin is threatening to nuke us ... and I don’t believe he’s bluffing. Thank you, Western “elites.” Good job! 74
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:11 | # “As an aside, does anyone actually pay attention to , much less believe, anything Old Nick (Griffin) says these days? Didn’t think so.” What have you done of any significance besides run your mouth off at MR? At least NG is being interviewed and a lot of ppl are noticing it and agreeing with his message. OTOH (and sorry to say it dude) you are a non-entity. 75
Posted by Manc on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:29 | # Members of the NF blamed Griffin for destroying the party. As chairman of the BNP Griffin led the party to its high water mark, however, as GW observed in 2014
In truth, the party wasn’t expecting a good day at the polls for the European election because of the amount of publicity granted to UKIP. The BBC even had Farage giving the weather report. Indeed, Farage would later boast of “destroying the BNP”. There was still a decent amount of support for Nick Griffin within the party and amongst the general public. I and many others went out of their way to wish him well following his ousting. Since then Griffin has struggled to remain relevant. His most notable achievement appears to be getting himself banned from Hungary as a supposed “national security risk” in 2017. The interview Griffin gave was for Sputnik International, well known as a state owned mouthpiece for the Kremlin and yes, there are lots of people who only want to engage with confirmation bias. All of the above I can forgive but working with Jack Sen ? after Sen had set about threatening and attempting to intimidate a number of nationalists, including Morgoth? I’ve never held any delusions of grandeur but I certainly don’t need to justify myself to you, Thorn. Go fuck yourself. 76
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:40 | # Lara Logan Gives a Brutally Honest Assessment of Ukraine and U.S. Politics March 20, 2022 | Sundance | 106 Comments
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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 23:49 | # “All of the above I can forgive but working with Jack Sen ? after Sen had set about threatening and attempting to intimidate a number of nationalists, including Morgoth?” Boo fucking hoo… You are such a pussy, Manc. I’m willing to bet Morgoth doesn’t give a flying fig what this __Sen__ guy has to say about him. Grow up! 78
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 21 Mar 2022 13:14 | # Lara Logan drops truth bombs Russia Ukraine https://rumble.com/vxnqv3-lara-logan-drops-truth-bombs-russia-ukraine.html 79
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 28 Mar 2022 03:00 | # Those of us who have, for decades, been warning about the grotesque mass religious hysteria around Holocaustianity’s replacement of Christianity (with over 200 Holocaust movies compared to 0 Holodomor movies out of Hollywood as preachers could no longer compete for the attention of young people), find it rather unremarkable that this religious hysteria may trigger nuclear war. What _is_ quite remarkable is that it is centered on the very country in which the Commies committed the Holomodor against Ukraine in the year before Hitler was elected. 80
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 28 Mar 2022 22:12 | # “The ancient ancestorial hatreds of Victoria Nuland are at the center of the Ukraine war.”—Gonzalo Lira Gonzalo Lira on Victoria Nuland (MUST SEE!) https://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-on-victoria-nuland-must-see/ 81
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 28 Mar 2022 23:59 | # “(...movies out of Hollywood as preachers could no longer compete for the attention of young people)” Exactly. The synagogue of Satan is prevailing, big time. 82
Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:47 | # Thorn: from what I can tell, a lot of the Putin cheerleaders are writing less and less about the war, and more and more about how much they hate America, which does not strike me as a positive sign for Putin. It also seems to me that Putin isn’t exactly making himself easy to defend. On the one hand, we depict this as a fight to the death against globo-homo elites who want to destroy his country. And on the other hand, we are saying that he is going soft on the Ukes because he still wants to win hearts and minds, rather than flatten the place. If this is true, I don’t see how you can hope to win a war with such a mixed mindset. Either you prosecute a war because it is a matter of life or death or you don’t bother. If the problems between Ukraine and Nato are minor enough that Putin can afford to fight a half-hearted war, then were they actually worth fighting over at all? Furthermore, he would be effectively asking his own soldiers to sacrifice their lives because he can’t afford to piss off the people who are trying to kill them. I have thought about GW’s position, and I feel like I’m getting it, gradually. It is something like the problem I have long felt Margaret Thatcher suffered from; she diagnosed the problems of the nation as being as a result of state control and ownership, so she set about reactively trying to cut the size of the state like a cancer patient trying to shrink a tumour in the belief that the absence of state would lead naturally to freedom, and then to whatever it was she thought was an ideal society, Grantham circa 1950, probably. Perhaps this was as a result of seeing the world through an economic lens, whereas maybe GW thinks that we are looking at things through a geopolitical/global elites lens. And yet….I still look at the politiacal direction of the Ukranians over the last few years and to me it looks less like the product of any kind of sensible national will, and more the product of corruption and a deeply compromised elite. 83
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:35 | # Would the world be better off today if the Cuban missile crisis had resulted in an all-out missile exchange? Its hard to see how it could have been worse off. Is it too late for such radiation/chemotherapy now? 84
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:18 | # SOANM, I’m not necessarily a cheerleader for Putin but I do recognize he has very good reasons/justifications for invading Ukraine. I’m not very familiar with the anti-Putin propaganda being feed to the Brits, but here in the USA it’s in overdrive. For example, we have “expert” after “expert” telling the American audience that “Putin’s claim that he wants to “de-Nazify” Ukraine is ridiculous on its face for the simple reason President Zelenski is Jewish.” Unfortunately, most Americanos are incurably ignorant and won’t investigate for themselves that, in fact, the Ukrainian military is saturated with actual Nazis. Furthermore, those Nazis are funded and trained by the CIA and other entities within the Deep State. We’ve known that since the CIA-backed color revolution of 2014. Secondly, another Putin claim for justification to invade Ukraine is the 8 years long ethnic cleansing of the ethnic Russians in the Donbas region. Then there was the serious talk about Ukraine wanting to join NATO. I think that may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back and triggered Putin’s decision to invade. But the government-media complex here in the USA constantly repeats over and over again the false narrative: “Putin’s unprovoked invasion of a sovereign democratically run Ukraine.” HAH! The fact is the USA has been provoking Russia for decades now ... and Ukraine’s government is being controlled by outside powers—mainly by the USA’ Deep State. Gonzola Lira (see my comment @80) gives an excellent talk naming the main planners/instigators/manipulators and laying out the sequence of events leading up the invasion. It’s close to two hours long but give the first 10 minutes a try. If you’re interested backstory like me, you’ll get hooked and watch the entire talk. https://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-on-victoria-nuland-must-see/ And this is interesting also: Col Douglas Macgregor Gives His Updated Opinion on Current Status of Ukraine-Russia Conflict
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 31 Mar 2022 21:51 | # The New York Times
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Posted by Son Of A Nietzsche Man on Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:21 | # Thorn, I wasn’t calling you a ‘Putin cheerleader’, I was merely using that as a shorthand for people who have sympathy with Russia’s predicament, not least myself. In some respects, the situation reminds me a little of South Africa in the 1980’s, another country sanctioned and demonised by the world, whom according to their rhetoric only wanted peace and rainbows for South Africans of all colours. But the wretched state of whites in that country today confirms that this was in fact an existential struggle for survival which they could not afford to lose. JB-“Is it too late for such radiation/chemotherapy now?” The long-prophesied economic collapse has generally been the preferred last-ditch hope of racial pessimists. And there does seem to be grounds for believing that this may be coming sooner rather than later. What effects will this have on the social and political situation in Europe? Speaking of pessimism, I read this in Charles Moore’s column in the Spectator: “You have until Sunday to apply to be a member of the Contested Heritage Committee of the C of E’s Church Buildings Council. ‘This committee will focus on the Church’s priority of racial justice as it is manifested in the material culture in our churches and cathedrals,’ says the advertisement for the (unpaid) posts. Experts are sought on areas which include 17th- to 19th-century slavery, ‘the implicit and explicit representations of works of art’, and a ‘liturgist with an understanding of racial justice’. ‘Applications from PGM (People of Global Majority) professionals are especially welcomed, to address the exclusive dominance of white voices among our members.” Is there any greater repository of English cultural artefacts than the Church of England, and have you ever heard of a phrase more terrifyingly Orwellian—genocidal even—in its implications than ‘People of Global Majority’? Reading this made me as gloomy as anything I have read in my life. It’s not hard to follow how this process could unfold; that every stained glass window, every surviving statue and every scrap of every wall painting will now exist at the whim of the ‘global majority’. Inherent in the term is an admission that the English themselves have no greater claim to the history of this country than any other person on the face of the earth. In truth, we have less claim, by sheer weight of global-democratic numbers. So yes, maybe nuclear war really isn’t the worst option.
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 01 Apr 2022 13:20 | # CNN Highlights the Value of Ukraine Nazis to Defeat Vladimir Putin Following increased scrutiny of the Ukranian army after videos surfaced showing torture of Russian soldiers by the notorious Azov battalion {Go Deep}, CNN writes an article saying that not all Nazis are bad Nazis. The article would normally be embarrassing for the same media outlet that has criticized their political opposition as “right-wing extremists” and “Nazis”; however, given the nature of CNN needing to promote the interests of the U.S. State Department, it is not surprising. (VIA CNN) – President Vladimir Putin framed the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a “special mission” to protect Russian speakers from genocide at the hands of ”neo-Nazis.” […] For the Kremlin, Exhibit A in this special mission is the far-right Azov movement, part of the military and political landscape in Ukraine for nearly a decade. Azov’s military and political wings formally separated in 2016, when the far-right National Corps party was founded. The Azov battalion had by then been integrated into the Ukrainian National Guard. An effective fighting force that’s very much involved in the current conflict, the battalion has a history of neo-Nazi leanings, which have not been entirely extinguished by its integration into the Ukrainian military.
As long as the west supports the Nazis to advance their political interests, western media support Nazis. As soon as the Ukraine conflict is settled, apparently it will be ok to go back to criticizing Nazis – or something. In a discussion with Ivory Hecker, war correspondent Lara Logan notes the insufferable madness of the Ukraine propaganda that media will not stop pushing. CNN sharing a sympathetic voice for the Ukraine army torturing prisoners of war, is just another typical example of the insanity. 88
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:21 | # “Thorn, I wasn’t calling you a ‘Putin cheerleader’...” I know you weren’t. What really should have us all PO’ed is the incredible lengths our government-media complex goes to in concocting the anti-Putin narrative. Anyone who was around and paid attention to the anti Saddam Hussein propaganda during the lead up to the first and second Gulf Wars should be able to identify the psyop methods our governments (along with their willing accomplices in the MSM) uses on its own citizens. And I will include the UK along with the USA in that. It seems the USA and the UK walk in lockstep in applying those propagandistic tactics. Moreover, it’s a sad day when ppl like Gonzalo Lira et al appear to have more credibility than most “professional journalists” working in the MSM. Lara Logan was part of the MSM; in fact she was a very prominent figure (including being a former correspondent for 60 Minutes) ... that is until she compared Dr. Fauci to Josef Mengele (lol). Fox News Channel (FNC) immediately ghosted her for dissing the “venerable” Dr. Fauci aka “The Science”. One dumb slip-up and she’s banished. Actually she proved to be too much of a threat to the Deep State’s narrative. That’s what got the great Lou Dobbs fired too; he regularly told the truth about the detrimental nation-destroying effects that massive immigration causes. And due to Tucker Carlson’s extremely effective/comprehensive critique of wokism, I’m surprised he hasn’t already been removed…. 89
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 02 Apr 2022 22:33 | # James Rickards: I’ve Never Heard So Many Lies
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:51 | #
“However, everything should change if the Russians push on to occupy the entirety of Ukraine, which seems inevitable.”
That would turn out to be more of a military blunder than Afghanistan by a factor of ten. The Ukrainians would, over time, through attrition, grind the Russian troops to shreds. I doubt Putin would make the foolish mistake of trying to physically occupy anything west of the Dneiper.