Biden’s warning of a nation-shaking event in the future

Posted by Guest Blogger on Saturday, 25 October 2008 12:15.

By Bo Sears

A mystery has revealed itself before our eyes.  It lies in the concluding portion of US Senator Joe Biden’s speech at a Seattle fund-raiser.  His unsettling prediction is that a test of the next president will be “manufactured“ early in his incumbency.  But, most oddly, it will require ordinary Democrat voters and Obama supporters to show solidarity with their man and use their “influence within the community”.

What kind of test can Biden mean?

Here is the text taken from Alexander Cockburn’s piece on CounterPunch posted this weekend.

“Mark my words,” Biden said solemnly at a Seattle fundraiser last Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden went on. He mentioned the Middle East and Russia. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you - not financially to help him - we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

What exactly is Biden hinting at in that last sentence? From the context of that whole paragraph it’s clear enough to me he’s suggesting that despite hopes nourished by the sort of people at that Seattle fundraiser that post-Bush/Cheney America might backpeddle from hasty military confrontations, President Obama will stand tall and lose no time in going eyeball to eyeball with those who would test his resolve.

So let’s try to answer Cockburn’s question.  These are the key elements Biden provides.

1. “President Obama” is going to be tested early, as Kennedy was tested in Cuba in 1962.  Possibly by Russia.  Possibly in the Middle-East.

2. He will respond militarily, not diplomatically.  This response will appear flat-wrong to many Americans.  National unity itself will be at risk.  The same kind of belief and support that elected Obama to office will be required to keep him there.

My colleagues and I have considered all kinds of situations in which a new president might need local community leaders to follow him blindly in some new foreign adventure.  The only one we can see that would be nation-shaking … the only one that would fit in the model of a black president and a dangerous military entanglement abroad, and which would give rise to the circumstance where lots of local support had to be brought behind him, would be the re-introduction of the draft.

Young white Americans may not be willing to risk their lives for a black Commander-in-Chief.  For sure, it is hard to believe that present-day American college students are any more eager to be cut up, shot, and killed in 2009 than they were in Johnson’s Vietnam. 

The image this calls to mind is the draft-dodging of the Vietnam era.  But Canada has already signalled its willingness to reject young diverse white Americans fleeing from a draft (along with other young Americans).  So the easy escape is blocked:-

… there’s a catch for those who flee to Canada. In the era of the Vietnam war, American draft dodgers and deserters could easily take up residence in Canada, and stay as long as they liked.  Now, however, Canadian law has changed.

“Well, legally what’s changed is that there’s a general policy in Canada now that to apply here you must apply from outside the country. And that’s not really an option that American troops could do,” said Jeffrey House, a Vietnam veteran who fled to Canada. “Because they’re gonna be sent to Iraq next week or next month.”

I don’t expect we’ll see the rebellious young with flowers in their hair this time.  And their natural recourse won’t be the ideals of the radical left and won’t be black civil rights, because these are the values of the political Establishment today.

But have you got any other ideas of substantive policy initiatives that couldn’t be implemented with only the powers in the presidency and the Congress … initiatives that would require wide-ranging local public support?

Bo Sears is a director of ResistingDefamation



Comments:


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Posted by the Narrator.. on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:54 | #

“But have you got any other ideas of substantive policy initiatives that couldn’t be implemented with only the powers in the presidency and the Congress … initiatives that would require wide-ranging local public support?”

Biden is a bit of a goofball so I don’t know how serious to take anything he says.

But assuming he is referring to some already planned policy course of action (in re-action to an expected event), a draft is as good a guess as any.

I mean these were hard core lefties he was addressing. So we have to ask our selves what would upset them.

Other possibilities?

Suspending the bill of rights.

Declaring Marshall Law.

Deporting illegals (not exactly popular with the lefties).

Aligning the US in opposition to Israel.

Creating his own secret police.

Removing judges, governors or other elected officials from office and replacing them with his people.

Confrontation with China in Africa.

Replacing the Statue of Liberty with a statue of Aunt Jemimah.

 


The world has been a boring place up until now.

It’s goona be Road Warrior meets Minority Report from here on out…


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:00 | #

Aligning the US in opposition to Israel.

This is how I came to be “far right” from being far left.

Many on the left are already firmly in opposition to Israel.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:02 | #

The use of “strategic” nuclear weapons is my guess.

Target: Iran.

TO NARRATOR:

It’s goona be Road Warrior meets Minority Report from here on out…

Ditto.


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Posted by skeptical on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:29 | #

danielj,

Aligning the US in opposition to Israel.

This is how I came to be “far right” from being far left.

Care to explain further?

As a regular visitor to your blog I have a hard time understanding how you could have ever found comity with the Left.


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Posted by jrackell on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:08 | #

They’re going to pull the plug on the US dollar in a few months - Russia, China, India, Middle East acting together.  Biden pretty much telegraphed it when he said he’s not expecting “financial help.”


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Posted by Frank McGuckin on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:32 | #

Bo Sears

You should submit your post to vdare.com


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:25 | #

Skeptical:

I used to think I was an anarchist. I used to think I was a lot of different things. I suppose it was mostly just my youth and hormones pulling me in all kinds of different directions. (Before Bush hating was cool, being an antifa was a quick way to get laid, now there is too much competition. Being a psuedo intellectual was another one)

I used to listen to Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman and read Emma Goldman. Amy introduced me Code Pink and Media Benjamin. Tikkun Olam was awesome the way the Rabbi Michael Lerner explained it. At some point I was introduced to Chomsky, although through the (mostly) Gentile medium of punk rock cd’s who used his sound bites religiously. It can be argued that punk music is thoroughly jewish if you consider that NOFX has two Heebs in the band and Fat Mike, one of them, controls Fat Wreckords and consequently a jew is the gatekeeper for the entire scene. Chomsky eventually led me to Dershowitz and Finkelstein and then at some point I realized that everything I read (including my Bible) was written, controlled or edited by jews.

I abandoned the anti-Zionist left once I understand that “Zionists” really aren’t the problem in America.

[Side Note: Propagandhi, a really good Canadian punk band (Prodhoun reading anarchists) had quite a struggle with Fat Mike when they were working on the compilation c.d. Rock Against Bush. They had a sound bite at the end of their submitted track that stated: “These messages brought to you by George Soros,” and Fat Mike rejected their submission (even though they have one of the longest histories at Fat Wreckords and are one of the most profitable bands) out of what was obviously loyalty to the tribe and the concomitant funding one receives for being a good little Sayanim.]

I read a lot of the Jewish Tribal Review’s When Victim’s Rule, Holocaust Revisionism stuff, Calvinists, the story of Ezra Pound and his speeches, MR, Wintermute, YGGDRASIL, race realism, Amren and David Duke and finally started coming up with my own philosophy and understanding “anti-Semitism.” This process was extremely painful for me and my family. I had a half Filipino wife and a quarter Filipino kid. I was raised in an EXTREMELY philo-Semitic church of the Dispensational variety. I’m still reeling a bit from all of the radical changes. Most people don’t undergo these types of changes after 16 years of age.

Sorry for taking the thread off topic.

p.s. I didn’t think anyone read the blog except my friends. I hope you find some things you enjoy.


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Posted by skeptical on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:16 | #

danielj,

Wow, thank you for putting the time into such a lengthy response, I do appreciate it.

If you would allow me to reciprocate.

For me, at least, the transition to a more racialist position was not so traumatic.  The epiphany came after some personal introspection whereupon I discovered that the true foundation of my “conservative” beliefs (and activisms) was a naked love for my own kind and not some convoluted abstract theory.  That our society has rendered the political expression of this love forbidden only makes our society evil and says nothing about our people.  The jewish people never factored into my considerations as I was only dimly aware of there existence at best, like most who grow up in rural American environments.

p.s. I didn’t think anyone read the blog except my friends. I hope you find some things you enjoy.

I do.  Keep up the good work with your blog.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:25 | #

They’re going to pull the plug on the US dollar in a few months - Russia, China, India, Middle East acting together.  Biden pretty much telegraphed it when he said he’s not expecting “financial help.”

I think Biden meant financial support from Obama’s present supporters, which of course comes in small and insignificant denominations anyway.

I believe he was asking for moral legitimacy despite the fact that it will apparently be undeserved.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:33 | #

For me, at least, the transition to a more racialist position was not so traumatic.  The epiphany came after some personal introspection whereupon I discovered that the true foundation of my “conservative” beliefs (and activisms) was a naked love for my own kind and not some convoluted abstract theory.

That is a position I’m swinging toward adopting. I’m sick of trying to explain myself “rationally” to anybody.
When it comes down to it, I owe no man anything.

I used to burst out in fits of Puritanical rage at what I perceived was “society,” but my war against society always grew out of an inclination that I had that society was unloving. I realize now that it was my people that I truly loved despite being conditioned to hate. That I was angry about their dispossession. I was angry about the loss of their religion, culture and law. I was angry that they didn’t love each other. I saw them scattered like sheep with no shepard.

One cannot intellectualize that feeling no matter how hard one tries.

That feeling and working for a couple of months in an Oakland ghetto outta convert even the staunchest denier.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:36 | #

Has anybody heard about an Intrade bet on the various possibilities?

It would certainly seem to be a good source to consult on the matter, but I’ve no idea how to use it and am without an account.


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Posted by skeptical on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:47 | #

danielj,

That is a position I’m swinging toward adopting. I’m sick of trying to explain myself “rationally” to anybody.
When it comes down to it, I owe no man anything.

I used to burst out in fits of Puritanical rage at what I perceived was “society,” but my war against society always grew out of an inclination that I had that society was unloving. I realize now that it was my people that I truly loved despite being conditioned to hate. That I was angry about their dispossession. I was angry about the loss of their religion, culture and law. I was angry that they didn’t love each other. I saw them scattered like sheep with no shepard.

One cannot intellectualize that feeling no matter how hard one tries.

I couldn’t agree more.

That feeling and working for a couple of months in an Oakland ghetto outta convert even the staunchest denier.

Heh.  I still find it hard to believe that intelligent Whites could ever earnestly accept the idea that Africans could even conceivably be our equal in matters pertaining to a technologically advanced civilization.  Even in my milktoast conservative days I could never believe such a thing and figured that we are all (as a race) just being polite about the matter.

My now deceased Southron grandmother put it best when she said, “Whatever they control turns to ruin.  Why can’t people notice something so obvious as this?”


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:38 | #

Daniel,

I’ve put a link in the side-bar to your blog.  I was remiss not to do so earlier.  My apologies.

Your story is moving.  Skeptical’s too.  I wonder if the little anti-racist fanatic who is spying on us will take the time to read that conversation.  He should.  He ought to know that there is good where he sees only evil, and that what he currently sees as important is as nothing bwside the values that you have uncovered.

Thanks to you both.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:24 | #

I’ve put a link in the side-bar to your blog.  I was remiss not to do so earlier.  My apologies.

No apology necessary GW! I’ve been remiss in not engaging in the discussion. I needed to disconnect from everything for a while and start thinking things through on a deeper level. I’m still working on that. Synthesis, they say, is the mark of genius and you can consider me unmarked.

I’ve been enjoying what I’ve observed as increased activity and posting on your part and I think that they’ve all been exemplary and thought provoking. I think your letters to the Telegraph have been exceptional as well Mr. Nightingale.

Also, I’ve spent some time surfing around the religious side of the Internet looking for like, but they don’t seem to exist, save here: First Word and they seem to have been effectively neutralized by Google. I have succeeded only in drawing enormous amounts of ire from my fellow churchgoers and creedal adherents. (Find recent examples here: Pigmentocrats and Economic Justice  from the Triablogue) Racism seems to be that unforgivable blasphemy against the Spiritu Santo that Jesus talked about even when it is deeply rooted in God’s <a href=“http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians 6 ;&versi>first commandment with a promise</a>.

I can’t get no respect smile


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:36 | #

Who is Marshall Law?

Replacing the Statue of Liberty, which boasts trashy, Jew-authored verses welcoming the Third World’s biological detritus to the USA with, say, a White robed and hooded figure brandishing a fiery cross, would be an act of uncommonly good sense.


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Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:51 | #

Who is Marshall Law?

Frank Marshall Davis Law.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:52 | #

Good old Razib’s Bengali fantasy writ large.


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Posted by skeptical on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:02 | #

GuessedWorker,

Thanks for the kudos.

Yes, our media-controlled society does a pretty good job of distorting and twisting the true nature of what we represent.  It is a shame that most of our people aren’t capable of seeing through the lies just yet.  Hopefully that will change sometime soon.


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Posted by cladrastis on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45 | #

I had a half Filipino wife and a quarter Filipino kid.

danielj,

Just out of curiousity, how did you square that circle?


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:15 | #

You should know, danielj, that the correct designation for a female of your former wife’s type is Filipina, with Filipino being reserved for the masculine gender. When I was young I had many jolly sprees in Manila/Makati/Cebu.


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Posted by TXB on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:44 | #

If a war breaks out and they bring back the draft I can predict something with certainty.

Although the media will paint a different story, it will be White boys who will be the main target of the draft.

Then the media will bombard the public with interracial love stories where “love” triumphs over “evil racism” when White girls fall in love with intelligent and noble negros and mestizos.

The White race could easily take a 30% hit in numbers within 4 years.


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Posted by danielj on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:15 | #

You should know, danielj, that the correct designation for a female of your former wife’s type is Filipina, with Filipino being reserved for the masculine gender. When I was young I had many jolly sprees in Manila/Makati/Cebu.

You know, I must have just spelled it wrong and ran with the spell check.

Thanks for pointing that out though. They might have lady-boys in the Philippines and I don’t wanna be associated with that on top of everything else.

Just out of curiousity, how did you square that circle?

Is my math wrong about the genetic percentages? I’m not quite sure what you mean. Are you asking about the divorce and custody battle?


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Posted by Guest on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:33 | #

If a war breaks out and they bring back the draft - TXB

Read and heed:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/10/china-launches-salvo-against-dollar.html

“How many of you here can read Chinese, eh? I can read Chinese, and I go back and check that article in People’s Daily.  In the fourth paragraph, it includes sentences accusing the US exploiting dollar hegemony and suggesting bilateral trade with other Asian and European countries settled by Euro, Pound, RMB and Yen.”


The last country to attempt reorganizing international trade on that bilateral basis was Germany, mid 1930s. 

If this man’s translation is at all reliable then the countdown clock is already running.  The London/NYC axis only makes kinetic replies to such challenges.  The only remaining questions are where and when. 

My estimate of the first theater is Iran in particular and the Indian Ocean areas in general.  Those who say the Iranian scenario would risk closing down Persian Gulf oil shipping don’t get it.  That outcome will be the primary strategic goal of this operation, more important than mere localized results against Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

External oil dependency on the Gulf area is China’s single greatest weak point.  The two possible points of blockade are the source or the destination.  A source blockade kills the proverbial two birds with one stone.  It also hits the Chinese where they’re weakest and Uncle Shmuel is strongest.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:40 | #

Bo Sears is director of ResistingDefamation.org (org, not com).


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:51 | #

“They’re going to pull the plug on the US dollar in a few months - Russia, China, India, Middle East acting together.”  (—JRackell)

That’s inevitable as the Jews’ project of white-to-black racial transformation of the United States plays out.  If not in a few months then further down the road, but it will inevitably happen, because race is real.  It’s like gravity:  you jump off the Empire State Building, there’ll be certain consequences.  Gravity’s real, it turns out.  Well, so’s race.  Can’t get around it, sorry.

I wish financial experts who’ve posted at this site and are supposed to be vaguely “on our side” (I won’t mention any names) would:  1) realize the above if they haven’t yet, or 2) say it if they’ve realized it.  There are diplomatic ways of saying it, don’t worry — use your imagination, it’ll come to you.  If you need more motivation, just reflect on the fact that Europe is slated for the same racial transformation from white to vibrancy as the U.S. has been blessed with.  Oh and I almost forgot:  a big thank you goes out to the Jews for all this blessing that’s been showered on us Euros:  THANK YOU, JEWS!  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:09 | #

Fred said: Bo Sears is director of ResistingDefamation.org (org, not com).

Fixed.

(And corrective comment left as a reminder for the future.)


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:29 | #

As was discussed earlier with regard to Obama’s type of “New Deal’:

Obama makes frequent use of the “voluntary national Service” idiom.  The basic idea is that as the government finally gets around to pumping liquidity in at the consumer level, it will do so on condition that those who thereby obtain the necessities of life give up their rights as they do when they enter the military (either that or have previously demonstrated willing political slavery).  This will occur “voluntarily” if possible—a possibility made likely by mismanagement of the economy, and we may count on mismanagement of the economy.

Its hard to imagine an Obama administration resorting to an honest military draft without putting into place much stronger guarantees that men like Colin Powell will be able to maintain control of an increasingly unstable situation.  But, then again, as we have seen in Africa, stability isn’t the African’s strong suit.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:10 | #

(Forgive me, where did you fix it, James?  It’s still not working at the bottom of the log entry.)


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:12 | #

Tis now.  Thanks, Fred.


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Posted by cladrastis on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:05 | #

Is my math wrong about the genetic percentages? I’m not quite sure what you mean. Are you asking about the divorce and custody battle?

The genetic fraction you cite is only an average.  As I’m sure you know, depending on the suite of genes your child inherited, s/he may be anywhere from ~50% Filipeno to ~100% white (though these are both unlikely clustering outcomes).  What I meant (by squaring the circle) was how did you solve that intractable problem?  You partly answered it with the above statement.  I am more curious, though, as a presumed WN, what you are teaching your multiracial son/daughter.  Dilution is the solution to pollution (forgive the crassness of “pollution”) or something else?  Like I said before, I’m just curious.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:48 | #

Cladastris, this came up in connection with Richard Barnbrook’s and Simone Clarke’s engagement, as her daughter is mixed-race (English-Chinese) and he of course opposes the racial transformation of Britain.  But there’s no inconsistency between loving someone of another race on the one hand, and opposing the extinction of a race (especially one’s own) through forced race-replacement on the other.  The two have nothing to do with one another.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:55 | #

“This person opposes the transformation of the population of the British Isles from British to Chinese.  That means he hates Chinese people.”

No.  That’s not the way it works.  That’s how the Jews and communists want everyone to think it works — the Jews and communists want every white person to think that the only to not be “a hater” is to welcome the genocide of the white race.  That’s obviously nonsense and a Jewish/communist lie.  I don’t hate the Chinese.  I do hate the scheme to turn England Chinese, and I hate that scheme’s backers.  Two entirely different things.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:58 | #

I don’t want the Jews and communists turning Britain Tibetan either, yet I oppose China’s current policy of race-replacement of Tibet.  How could that possibly be, if I hated Tibetans?  I don’t hate them.  Hating them and hating race-replacement are totally different things.  The Jews and communists want to blur the difference.


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Posted by danielj on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:00 | #

The genetic fraction you cite is only an average.  As I’m sure you know, depending on the suite of genes your child inherited, s/he may be anywhere from ~50% Filipeno to ~100% white (though these are both unlikely clustering outcomes).

He seems a bit on the dark side so he definitely didn’t hit the recessive lottery. My sister got lucky with her first child; he seems almost entirely White despite her miscegenation. Thankfully my brother married White and wealthy and his child is entirely White.

What I meant (by squaring the circle) was how did you solve that intractable problem?  You partly answered it with the above statement.  I am more curious, though, as a presumed WN, what you are teaching your multiracial son/daughter.  Dilution is the solution to pollution (forgive the crassness of “pollution”) or something else?  Like I said before, I’m just curious.

He is only four and I have very little contact with him so I don’t get to teach him anything right now. I’m sure his mother will ship him off to public school when the time comes and turn him into a good little sheep. I’ve got a little more debt to pay off and an offensive custody battle to mount from an entirely different state so it is sort of an uphill battle with limited prospects for even a Pyrrhic victory.

I’m not so sure it is even worth it. I really don’t know what the right thing to do is so I consider the problem unsolved as of now and the circle remains unsquared.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:29 | #

But there’s no inconsistency between loving someone of another race on the one hand, and opposing the extinction of a race (especially one’s own) through forced race-replacement on the other.

Of course there is. An exception can’t be made for one and not for another. If this was common practise there would be nothing left to defend.

“Never accept a convert or a child born of a convert,” Kassin told me by phone, summarizing the message. “Push them away with strong hands from our community. Why? Because we don’t want gentile characteristics.” ...


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:56 | #

@ Desmond, two things: 

1) I wasn’t talking about what the group thought, only what the dad thought:  If I have a half-Chinese child, as Barnbrook may some day soon, or a wholly Chinese child by adoption, I’ll love my child fully and completely, as would any dad and as I’d love a white child, and at the same time oppose the extinction-through-race-replacement of the white race, fully and completely.  The group I see myself as belonging to, whites, might not accept my Chinese or half-Chinese child, in which case I’d of course go to live in whatever place my child was welcome, always loving my child and always opposing extinction of the white race. 

None of this would in any way whatsoever diminish a) my love for my child or b) my opposition to forced race-replacement of whites.

2) The Syrian Jews whom you cite are tiny in number worldwide, so have to be strict in the way spelled out in that quote.  The Parsis are another such group, though of course way smaller still:  these groups really have to be strict, while the various Euro groups don’t have to be that strict.  A drop of ink in a teacupful of water makes a noticeable difference, not in a swimming pool.  You know, the idea that a butterfly flapping its wings doesn’t cause earthquakes on the moons of Saturn.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:08 | #

in which case I’d of course go to live in whatever place my child was welcome,

Where is that place your child is welcome? It’s welcomed by the Jews and its not welcomed by the Chinese. Ultimately, it must make room somewhere? Thus it has impact upon racial extinction, because you have no recourse to limiting the number of drops of ink that will be in the pool. What is the exact amount of mixing that’s acceptable? 5, 10, 20 percent?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:04 | #

Desmond, my recommendation for North America is every white should marry/procreate with a white.  As for what limits the number of ink drops in the pool:  in normal times it’s the government listening to the people when the latter oppose an immigration innundation of the racially unlike.  These are not normal times.

I also advocate Jews not living in Euro countries but in their own countries, an arrangement under which both they and Euros will be happier.  A Jew-free Euro country is far less likely to get its borders pried open to the non-white Third World:  it’s the Jews who specialize in pulling that stunt.

“Where is that place your child is welcome? It’s not welcomed by the Jews and it’s not welcomed by the Chinese.  Ultimately, it must make room somewhere?”

We’ll see when the time comes.  (This is all hypothetical for me, for any who may have missed the preceding posts.  I don’t have mixed-race kids.) 

“It’s not welcomed by the Jews”

I don’t know why it would be, since (for the nth time) I’m not Jewish.  I’m also not part-Jewish.  I’m wholly non-Jewish, zero-Jewish.  Catholic is what I am, though I’m going through some inner turmoil in regard to that at the moment — may be forced to change that, since the Vatican has now joined the anti-white genocidalists.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:56 | #

Catholic is what I am, though I’m going through some inner turmoil in regard to that at the moment — may be forced to change that, since the Vatican has now joined the anti-white genocidalists.

Which further pushes the point, Fred.

What if, through some miraculous turn of events the BNP are elected, not only ending immigration but initiating a repatriation scheme. It’s not beyond the realm of loyal nationalists. They come knocking at Mr. Barnbrook’s door. He is married to a Chinese and has a daughter that is mixed race. Where does his loyalty lie when they suggest his wife and daughter must leave England?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:21 | #

Desmond, let’s get the big picture sorted out first, then nit-pick the details afterward, shall we?  Barnbrook isn’t the big picture.  Right now the E.U. and the Jews plan to airlift 56 million African Negroes into Europe and of course intimidate any white girl who refuses to bear a Negro’s baby by calling her a vile “racist” (but only Euro girls; Jewish girls will be exempt from that), the U.S. under the Jews continues to aggressively import two million non-whites a year and ram them down whites’ throats under threat of prosecution of any questioners for “hate,” Canada continues the most race-replaced country of the Eurosphere as its white population shrinks even further by the minute, etc.  Let’s work on some of these bigger pictures first, then worry about whether Simone Clarke’s daughter ought to place Mr. Barnbrook in a dilemma should Miss Clarke and he tie the knot.  Wouldn’t you say?


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Posted by Desmond jones on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:15 | #

Wouldn’t you say?

No.

Look after the nickels and dimes and the dollars will look after themselves.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:18 | #

Why did I know you were going to say that?  I must be clairvoyant.


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Posted by the Narrator.. on Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:37 | #

“Right now the E.U. and the Jews plan to airlift 56 million African Negroes into Europe…..the U.S. under the Jews continues to aggressively import two million non-whites a year…..Let’s work on some of these bigger pictures first,”
-Fred Scrooby

I don’t know Fred. It’s likely to be a long time before our side would be in a position to implement any kind of policy needed to preserve what’s left of The West in America, so we have to police ourselves in the meantime.

And we’re not just talking about an ink drop in a swimming pool as I would estimate that nearly half (and maybe more by now) of American families have been impacted by some form of race mixing via extended family (through adoption, marriage, or offspring-producing indiscretions). And then you have those Whites who are, and will remain, ideologically opposed to racial segregation. So we are already in a dangerous position of dealing with people who may have divided loyalties.

We have to draw a line around our camp and keep out those who are not of us.

The percentages may be different in Europe but America is already Brazil (with Whites being about 55% of the population and dropping).
So we must be prepared to lay down a mandate to Whites in America; ‘Choose now, one side or the other’.
All of us will, very soon, have to permanently sever ties with close friends and family (while at the same time strengthening ties with those friends and family that choose the right side).

There is still light at the end of the tunnel, yet our darkest hour (and make no mistake, it will be very dark) lies just ahead. And many need fall by the wayside till the end of this tunnel is reached…


..........

Back to the subject, it’s likely that once Obama is in, he won’t be inclined to come back out. The MSM is now, unabashedly, a full fledged State Propaganda machine and Hate Crime legislation and the “Fairness” doctrine will silence the blogs and radio, so no matter how much he screws this nation up he will be re-elected in 2012.
And maybe again in 2016 and 2020 after that.

“After a spirited, emotional and at times raucous debate, the New York City Council voted, 29 to 22, on Thursday afternoon to extend term limits, allowing Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg to seek re-election next year and undoing the result of two voter referendums that had imposed a limit of two four-year terms.

The vote was a major victory for Mayor Bloomberg — a billionaire and lifelong Democrat who was elected mayor as a Republican in 2001, won re-election in 2005, became an independent last year, and decided just weeks ago that he wished to seek a third term for himself in 2009…

The Council has 48 Democrats and three Republicans. All three Republicans — James S. Oddo and Vincent M. Ignizio, of Staten Island, and Anthony Como of Queens — voted no.

Opponents of the bill accused the mayor and his supporters on the Council of flouting the will of the people — as expressed in a 1993 voter initiative that established a limit of two consecutive terms and a 1996 referendum in which voters rejected a Council-led effort to change the limit to three terms. They said that democratic procedure demanded a public vote on the issue, no matter what one thinks of Mr. Bloomberg or term limits.

Supporters of the bill said the dire economic situation confronting the city — and the possibility of multibillion-dollar budget shortfalls — demanded continuity of leadership”.
-nytimes. com Oct. 23 2008


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Posted by silver on Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51 | #

1) I wasn’t talking about what the group thought, only what the dad thought:  If I have a half-Chinese child, as Barnbrook may some day soon, or a wholly Chinese child by adoption, I’ll love my child fully and completely, as would any dad and as I’d love a white child, and at the same time oppose the extinction-through-race-replacement of the white race, fully and completely.  The group I see myself as belonging to, whites, might not accept my Chinese or half-Chinese child, in which case I’d of course go to live in whatever place my child was welcome, always loving my child and always opposing extinction of the white race. 

None of this would in any way whatsoever diminish a) my love for my child or b) my opposition to forced race-replacement of whites.

Maybe if one were a cyborg.  Humans function somewhat differently.

It certainly begs the question of why, if one were so opposed to white extinction, would he have a non-white child in the first place, given that that so complicates matters?

A ploy WNs with non-white affiliations, or mixed-race or non-white WNs (if there can be such a thing), could attempt is to claim priority by writing their names in the white man’s book while doing is so is most unpopular, ie, I was here first.  Desmond’s question must be answered: just how much admixture are you prepared to accept?

Non-whites beyond their reproductive age are nonmalignant, and their service to the cause should be sufficient grounds to entreat leave to abide, even in an atmosphere of heightened racial awareness, tension and angst.

So we must be prepared to lay down a mandate to Whites in America; ‘Choose now, one side or the other’.
All of us will, very soon, have to permanently sever ties with close friends and family (while at the same time strengthening ties with those friends and family that choose the right side).

Stating it so dramatically isn’t likely to persuade ditherers to choose as you’d prefer.  A better idea is to make such choices positive and constructive; each going their own way as is appropriate shouldn’t be a cause for dread—that, if you insist on it, can come much later.


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Posted by boeregeist on Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:10 | #

Whatever happens, does it really matter? Bring it on.  Worse is better.  We deserve everything that is coming to us.  And more.  But having spent almost 15 years as an active (in WN circles), racially-conscious White American (hell, I even volunteered with a Boer ‘commando’ group in South Africa in mid 1990s to gain experience), I am convinced that nothing less than a calamity will wake up fellow whites.  And even then, I doubt more than a few of us will have the guts to react. The future is very bleak.


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Posted by ben tillman on Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:05 | #

His unsettling prediction is that a test of the next president will be “manufactured“ early in his incumbency.

“Biden”, of course, is a contraction of “bin Laden”.


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Posted by snax on Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:13 | #

Makes you wonder about the power of subliminal messages - the Obama Biden ticket seems positively irresistible.


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Posted by EA Steve on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:30 | #

That’s a really awkward picture, Fred.

I guess it’s supposed to represent Black domination over White gay men? Well, at least it wasn’t an attractive White woman. I see non-White males with White women, almost every day! : (


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Posted by EA Steve on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:54 | #

On another note, most of the White males I know could care less about non-White men having sexual intercourse with our women. Some even encourage it. I have heard some say non-White men should have sex with our women; others have even given advice to non-White men, in “picking up” White women! Our own male co-ethnics are helping the tropical races in impregnating our women. And this isn’t just the stereotypical Establishment Jewish Hollywood executive. This applies to White Gentiles (at least one who is anti-Semitic, but also anti-White Gentile).

I also remember a German who shared a room with me and a Dark Brown Hispanic. The Hispanic bragged about having sexual intercourse with a blue-eyed blonde in front of me and the German. The Hispanic claimed to have had the affair with the divorced blonde, for 2 months! While I remained silent, the German congratulated him, and started fawning over him. Shortly thereafter, he told me, he supports Germany turning non-White and Muslim (even though he is German ethnic and Catholic). Even after this moment, I saw him act like a “lap dog” to an inter-racial couple, which involved a White woman.

 

On the thread’s primary topic of concern, I find the future very troublesome; our economy is going to crash, and Vicente Fox said we will likely have an amero. Fox mentioned this on the Larry King show. I think President Barak Husein Obama will eventually re-instate the draft, and go specifically after young fertile healthy White boys! Not even the aforementioned self-destructive race-traitors will be immune. Most of this future conscripts will ironically be Obama voters!


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Posted by the Narrator.. on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:57 | #

So we must be prepared to lay down a mandate to Whites in America; ‘Choose now, one side or the other’.
  All of us will, very soon, have to permanently sever ties with close friends and family (while at the same time strengthening ties with those friends and family that choose the right side).

Stating it so dramatically isn’t likely to persuade ditherers to choose as you’d prefer.  A better idea is to make such choices positive and constructive; each going their own way as is appropriate shouldn’t be a cause for dread—that, if you insist on it, can come much later.

Posted by silver on Monday, October 27, 2008

That wasn’t dramatically stated.
And I never bother with ‘ditherers’, period. Adults know what they believe in and where their allegiance is. So if a person is over the age of, say 25, and is a ‘ditherer’ on the issues at hand, then I know where they stand (even if they won’t admit it aloud), which is in opposition to White Civilization.

There is absolutely nothing more despicable than a man who refuses to choose one side of the fence or the other, so I don’t give such types the time of day.

And no, the sorrow of parting company with friends, neighbors, brothers, sisters, children, fathers, mothers, aunts and uncles is not some far off event, it is already upon us now.

Stating that is not dramatic, it is just the truth. And the days of being bashful and awkward over the truth are, out of necessity, at an end…


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Posted by silver on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:21 | #

So if a person is over the age of, say 25, and is a ‘ditherer’ on the issues at hand, then I know where they stand (even if they won’t admit it aloud), which is in opposition to White Civilization.

Tell yourself that if you feel you must, but it’s bullshit.

There is absolutely nothing more despicable than a man who refuses to choose one side of the fence or the other, so I don’t give such types the time of day.

That, too, is bullshit.  There are plenty things more despicable, and surely from your perspective one who resolutely chooses to oppose you ought to be so considered. 

Stating that is not dramatic, it is just the truth.

There’s no logical contradiction between the two.  Your truth could quite easily be stated in terms more likely to engender agreement with you.


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Posted by the Narrator.. on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:38 | #

  ” So if a person is over the age of, say 25, and is a ‘ditherer’ on the issues at hand, then I know where they stand (even if they won’t admit it aloud), which is in opposition to White Civilization”.

Tell yourself that if you feel you must….
Posted by silver on Wednesday, October 29, 2008

No, I was addressing YOU.

And since it so obviously struck a nerve, I’ll assume it’s applicable to you.

“There is absolutely nothing more despicable than a man who refuses to choose one side of the fence or the other, so I don’t give such types the time of day”.

That, too, is bullshit.  There are plenty things more despicable, and surely from your perspective one who resolutely chooses to oppose you ought to be so considered. 
Posted by silver on Wednesday, October 29, 2008

No, again wrong.
Someone who is resolutely in opposition to me is someone who I KNOW FOR CERTAIN where they stand.
The fence straddlers, on the other hand, are loyal to no one except themselves, and therefore can never be trusted when it matters most.
The question (no matter how it is phrased) is, essentially, “are you on the side of White Civilization or not.”
There are only two possible answers; Yes or No.

“Maybe”, “I’m not sure”, “I’ll have to think about it”, etc… all = No.

Your truth could quite easily be stated in terms more likely to engender agreement with you.

Posted by silver

I’m not trying to “engender agreement” or “persuade” anybody.

A man knows what he does or does not believe in. 

And with the evidence all about us (as to the issue at hand) and our civilization crumbling, (unless they are mentally impaired or have lived in a cave all their life) the undecided man is without excuse…


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Posted by silver on Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:45 | #

No, I was addressing YOU.

And since it so obviously struck a nerve, I’ll assume it’s applicable to you.

You don’t need to assume anything about me. I’ve made my position clear.  But someone who hasn’t isn’t necessarily opposed to you.

No, again wrong.
Someone who is resolutely in opposition to me is someone who I KNOW FOR CERTAIN where they stand.

But how is that any better? 

I’m not a nasal lefty who reflexively derides “black and white thinking,” but neither does sending off indeterminacy to “Against Us” make much sense to me.

The question (no matter how it is phrased) is, essentially, “are you on the side of White Civilization or not.”

That’s wide open to interpretation!  A “yes” or a “no” isn’t particularly meaningful. 

A man might be a “yes” but answer “no” if he figures “yes” means killing all non-whites. 

A man knows what he does or does not believe in.

That’s not always true.  And men often change their minds, particularly when those beliefs are only loosely held.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:34 | #

Ralph Nader, running as a splinter candidate, officially introduces into the campaign the claim that 1) the 1967 Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was no accident, as claimed by Israel ever since, but deliberate; 2) the U.S. board of inquiry that looked into it, which was headed by Adm. McCain, Sen. McCain’s father, was under orders from the Johnson Administration to cover up the facts and Israel’s guilt — which it did; 3) Sen. McCain, in endorsing what he must know to be a lie and a cover-up concocted by the committee his father chaired, is complicit in that lie and cover-up.

http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/11/02/ralph-nader-john-mccain-and-the-jewish-uss-liberty-cover-up/

Question:  how much money has McCain received under the table from AIPAC?


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:59 | #

Aligning the US in opposition to Israel.

Interesting piece here.

According to Iranian-American political analyst Hassan Daioleslam, Mr. Biden’s activities, coupled with his vice-presidential candidacy, “highlight the need to really investigate the web of Iranian influence in the US.”

“What you have here is a group of people who have been working together through different groups and organizations for the past ten years to promote the interests of the Iranian regime,” he said.

He called it “deeply troubling” that the Democratic vice-presidential candidate has been raising funds “from people whose ties to the Iranian regime raise such serious questions.”

Mr. Timmerman stressed that Mr. Biden’s ties to the pro-Iranian lobby “are not a haphazard affair, but a matter of conviction.” Mr. Rubin said those ties have helped Iran come closer to developing weapons of mass destruction.

“Biden’s unyielding pursuit of ‘engagement’ with Iran for more than a decade has made it easier for Tehran to pursue its nuclear program,” said Mr. Rubin.

At the end of August, the Israeli daily Ma’ariv reported that the Jewish state’s plans for a unilateral strike against Iran are already in “high gear.”

The paper’s veteran political analyst Ben Caspit reported that a government committee is preparing a contingency plan to attack Iran if diplomatic efforts to derail Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program fail.

“If the ayatollahs’ regime does not fall in the next year, if the Americans do not strike militarily, and if the international sanctions do not break the Iranian nuclear plan, Israel will have to act forcefully,” Mr. Caspit reported.

In the US, a new bipartisan poll conducted by Public Opinion Strategies and commissioned by The Israel Project, an international non-profit organization devoted to “educating the press and the public about Israel while promoting security, freedom and peace,” found the American public in heavy disagreement with the policies suggested by Messrs Obama and Biden regarding Iran.

How does that play with Obama’s chief-of-staff the Israeli Rahm Emmanuel who supported the Iraq war. Obviously not well but it appears it won’t matter.


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Posted by Celtic Queen (no dogs or divorcees allowed) on Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:27 | #

He is only four and I have very little contact with him so I don’t get to teach him anything right now. I’m sure his mother will ship him off to public school when the time comes and turn him into a good little sheep. I’ve got a little more debt to pay off and an offensive custody battle to mount from an entirely different state so it is sort of an uphill battle with limited prospects for even a Pyrrhic victory.

I’m not so sure it is even worth it. I really don’t know what the right thing to do is so I consider the problem unsolved as of now and the circle remains unsquared.


This is why it is so important for white Americans to marry other white Americans.  Or white euros to marry other white euros.  Y’all understand divorce and custody and all that.  Usually brown people from eastern countries are religious and moral and don’t divorce and custody battles and all that.

Daniel, make sure your next wife is a divorcee with baggage just like you….....

Question; is there any dude on this site who HASN’T been divorced?


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Posted by danielj on Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:58 | #

Please do not address me.

Despite the public nature of this forum, that post was not directed toward you and I do not welcome your input.



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