Posted by Salopian on Sat, 01 Jul 2006 22:14 | #

What, still no comment on the world cup on majority rights? I thought Guessedworker is trying to attract the ordinary man here.

No wonder Willam Phillips prefers to post at Harry’s Place.

Guess I’ll start it off.

Three old-school Euro sides in the semis, although with token diversity to enrich them. Wasn’t footie meant to go the way of athletics and be a darkie pursuit? Africa’s representatives performed abysmally (Brazil and France excepted!).

Lets all hope “France” get stuffed. The media wank-fest that will follow “Les Noirs” winning the WC would be too much to take, what with riots earlier in the year. One negro footballer has already received a standing ovation from the meeja and much column inches for an inarticualte denunciation of Le Pen.

We can at least console ourselves with the fact that *real* French people prefer Le Roogbi , and couldn’t give two hoots for soccer.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 01 Jul 2006 22:56 | #

Harry’s Place is in Israel.

Lilian Thuram said, among other things: “... When people were celebrating our win, they were celebrating us as Frenchmen, not black men or white men.  It doesn’t matter if we’re black or not, because we’re French. I’ve just got one thing to say to Jean Marie Le Pen.  The French team are all very, very proud to be French. If he’s got a problem with us, that’s down to him but we are proud to represent this country.  So Vive la France, but the true France. Not the France that he wants.”

The real French people who were celebrating with this non-Frenchman were sleepers.  It is to be hoped that they awake to their sacred duty to France before it is too late.

The non-Frenchman, by the way, was born in Guadaloupe.  He is a Caribb, real name Ruddy Lilian Thuram-Ulien.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 01 Jul 2006 23:47 | #

June Gordon stands as a fine example of why Will Phillips, for all his talent and perspicacity, is wasting his time at HP.  June must believe that she can enlighten some of those ghastly Amren racists.  But the race-realist terms of the engagement handicap her beyond all repair, and she winds up making a repeated spectable of herself.

Will Phillips argues as a race-realist at HP, but the terms of engagement are kosher-liberal.  Basically, in that position one is left trying to prove that:-

a) The liberalism of the Jewish posters and commenters is in some way mistaken, when from a Jewish perspective it is, in fact, fabulously successful - which is all that counts.

b) The liberalism of the rest is likewise mistaken, when these ring-in-the-nose goofs self-evidently can’t value their own Nature or homeland, and probably never will.

Will Phillips (or whichever guise he chooses to adopt) could, as an alternative, have built up a body of work here had he wished.  The invitation is still open, but I expect no reply.

Posted by john on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 11:23 | #

Roony was sent of for agression after he fouled. He had a difficulte job though, always marked by three. They were lucky to get as far as they did.
I was deeply moved by Beckems anti racism speech, so with most racism being against whites, I,ve decisded to vote BNP.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 13:16 | #

John.

I found that speech so painfully distasteful, I longed for the crowd to shout him down.  I was wondering yesterday whether it might be worth investing in some design software so I could edit the pre-match photos and post a “Say No to Race Replacement” banner here!

Posted by Matra on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:14 | #

What, still no comment on the world cup on majority rights? I thought Guessedworker is trying to attract the ordinary man here.

I was going to start a World Cup thread as I knew there’d be lots of ethnic issues during the tournament but I decided to make do with occasional posts at other sites due to what I thought was a lack of interest in (even contempt for) sport here.

I was glad to see the useless boring English go out and I’ve been enjoying the whinging about C Ronaldo and the ref. English lack of self-awareness with regards to their team’s potential has astonished non-English football fans for decades. They only made it this far because they’d an easy draw.

Posted by Salopian on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 20:15 | #

The ethnic - race realism really - issues are fascinating. Exactly why there should be a world cup post here. The most interesting seems to be the tacit admission by the world’s top coaches that multi-racial teams *don’t* work.

Of Europe’s main multi-racial teams, France has made the decision to go pretty much all black, whilst Holland was incredibly white compared to the last twenty years. France did manage to field a player of East Indian decent

The 50:50 black/white Dutch team of ten years was notorious for its racial in-fighting, the “integrated” France team of the later eighties / early nineties (before the purge of whites) were notorious underachievers. Brazil has also got rid of all their whites and nearly whites - when I was a kid this was the team of Zico, Socrates and Falcao - who talented as they were won bugger all in a truly mixed Brazil side. (Brazilian second sport - basketball - remains pretty white btw)

(to see how much Brazilian football has changed, here is the Mexico ‘86 team:) &imgrefurl=http://www.v-brazil.com/culture/sports/world-cup/1986-Mexico.html&h=204&w=318&sz=22&hl=en&start=10&tbnid=z8epM7DY5lozdM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=113&prev;=/images?q=socrates+brazil&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&sa=N

Meanwhile the England squad, had only one *proper* black (a past it has-been), six half-castes, and no-one of recent African descent, despite Africans being a larger group than AnglCarribeans in the 18-35 age group.

Argentina have an increasing number of players who make Maradona look like a full blooded Scicilian and for whom the description “Mestizo” is generous - a sign of the less well known brown invasion at the other end of the Americas.

All interesting stuff.

Posted by Lurker on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 20:15 | #

Well they normally qualify and get through the first round, they cant be all that bad in global terms.

Posted by Getafix on Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:53 | #

France has made the decision to go pretty much all black

Yeah, it’s remarkable. What percent black is France anyways? 3 or 4%? Btw, did you know that Ribery (one of the few white players) is a convert to Islam?

Brazil has also got rid of all their whites and nearly whites - when I was a kid this was the team of Zico, Socrates and Falcao - who talented as they were won bugger all in a truly mixed Brazil side.Brazil has also got rid of all their whites and nearly whites - when I was a kid this was the team of Zico, Socrates and Falcao - who talented as they were won bugger all in a truly mixed Brazil side.

It looks like Brazil have switched to a pretty much all mixed race side. The only starting white player is Kaka, and the only full-blooded looking blacks in the first team are Ze Roberto and Juan.

Posted by stari_momak on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 05:46 | #

I like to think i’m pretty up on Slavic stuff , but i’ve never heard the term bogatyr. obviously the root is God —G-D for you philosemites ; )—but who or what are the bogatyrs?

I was rooting for Spain, the perennial dissappointment, although one of the few sides whose team is recognizeable as the historic nation they represent. Obviously a ‘France’ win would be disheartening, but a German win will no doubt be accompanied by much commentary on the Slavic names of many of the players.

Posted by Matra on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:06 | #

I tried to start a World Cup post but it wouldn’t work. That’s a few times now that I’ve been unable to publish here. Oh well.

Here’s some World Cup news:

- “The white man has ruined us again”. Africans are crying about Ghana’s defeat against Brazil - not exactly an all-white team!  They claim white officials cost them the match which they lost 3-0. (I guess their racism made them biased in favour of Brazil with its one white player!) Apparently the penalty kick Ghana were wrongly given against the USA has been forgotten. (BTW All the African teams except Angola required white coaches).

-  Jean-Marie Le Pen says the French people can’t get behind the French team due to its ethnic composition. Eight of the starting eleven are non-white and according to poster Getafix one of those whites (Franck Ribery) is a convert to Islam. Needless to say the French team are popular in the media. Timothy Garton Ash in the Grauniad says: “If England are knocked out, I hope that France will win. England’s old “sweet enemy” needs a psychological boost these days, and I’d love Zizou Zidane’s team, with hardly a white face in it, to help transform French attitudes to people of colour”.

- According to John Barber, writing in last week’s Globe & Mail newspaper, three people have been stabbed in World Cup related violence in Toronto. There have also been scuffles due to crazed ethnic fans causing ‘soccer-jams’ in various places, including some main roads.  In recent days I’ve noticed many Canadians in my area driving around with Canadian flags from their cars in what appears to be a response to foreigners - mostly Portuguese, Italian, English, German, and Iranian - putting flags from their homeland on their cars during the World Cup. (Thank God football, as Timothy Garton Ash says, unites us more than it divides us!)

- Now that Germany has a black player the Jewish magazine The New Republic says it’s now OK for Germans to be patriotic:

David Odonkor, whether fairly or unfairly, represents a lot to me about Germany. Not only is he one of Germany’s many offensive-minded young stars that threaten to abolish its boring style of play forever, but he is also black (or at least his father is Ghanaian). When this young black man appeared on the sidelines to the loudest cheers I had heard all night from my German companions, something inside me changed. I no longer feared the cheers of “Deutcsh-land” that came pouring forth, but rather embraced them. For if this new German nationalism can embrace a half-Ghanaian boy as its national hero, its good enough for me. And when his cross led to German ecstasy across the country, I too, I must admit, was ecstatic.

The Polish team Germany beat was all white.

Posted by Matra on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:35 | #

Lurker: “Well they normally qualify and get through the first round, they cant be all that bad in global terms”.

It’s the gap between how good they are and how good England fans think they are that I was commenting on. I mean Swedish fans don’t expect their team to win every tournament or even go far in each tournament yet when England, inevitably fail to do so there’s always some national debate, as if it’s a tremendous shock they aren’t the world’s best. Yet they’ve been no better than Sweden for much of my lifetime.

Watching England on Saturday reminded me of Euro 2000 when it was noticed by all observers that England don’t even seem to be able to pass the ball or get players into positions to collect passes. They seem to be afraid to keep the ball at their feet for more than a split second. Get it to the wings then cross it into the box was their entire game plan for years and it didn’t work. I thought Sven-Goran was brought in to change all that. Guess not. He’s laughing all the way to the bank I imagine.

Perhaps if there were fewer foreigners in the Premiership there’d be greater development of local talent. It’s much easier for clubs to just buy foreign players who are ready to join the starting eleven right away.

Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:36 | #

You are right, Fred . Timothy Garton Ash would be better situated in South Africa among those inventive supporters of Mandela whose main gift to civilisation was the burning tyre ‘necklace’. With any luck and a fair wind, Timothy Garton would quickly be Ash.

Posted by Steve Edwards on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:07 | #

Timothy Garton Ash was a prominent supporter of NATO’s unprovoked attack on Serbia back in 1999, in order to race-replace Serbs with Albanians. That is to say, Timothy Garton Ash advocates genocide. That he is now demanding race-replacement is not surprising in the slightest.

As for the “French” soccer team. The demographics of that team are simply what the elites want for France writ small. It is a kind of “pilot scheme” for the tranzis, if you will.

Posted by stari_momak on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:49 | #

Good one Al Ross. Thanks for the info Alex. Perhaps salvation is from the Slavs.

Posted by Apuestas on Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:57 | #

finally a discussion on this topic, where posters are not at each others throat, congrats