Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:53 | #

“Mr Petzner’s revelations have shattered that charade, and there was speculation today that after not even a month in the job, he might soon find himself replaced as leader of the Alliance for the Future of Austria.”  (—from the linked article on Petzner)

Gee, ya think? ....

I don’t know whether to be more angry at this piece of garbage’s indiscretions before the press when he should’ve kept his mouth shut, or more happy that so many homos are showing they oppose race-replacement. 

(But do they oppose race-replacement?  Several days ago I read in a piece by Paul Belien that Haider favored E.U. membership for Turkey.  !!!!  What’s their real game, some of these characters?  Are they in this for the right reasons or are they in it to play dress-up in ‘30s uniforms or something? — in it to imagine they’re re-living “decadent” 1920s Berlin and for a chance to do some “decadent” role-playing with each other?  This Petzner guy looks, and now acts, creepy enough — I wouldn’t put it past him.)

Sometimes you ask yourself if victory for our side just isn’t in the stars. 

(Then you catch yourself and say of course it is, we’ll just have to soldier on:  no one ever said this would be a cakewalk.)

Posted by 413576721266745 on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:01 | #

Response to the news about Haider: Yukio Mishima, the gay Japanese fascist who committed suicide after a failed coup attempt to restore the Emperor, wrote that fascism was the natural partner for gays because in other systems they had everything to lose. History speaks of a long connection between the radical right and gays, because being a fascist is part of being in a macho elite; a male brotherhood.

Haider’s promiscuities were no secret. Now that information published reveals that Haider had an emotional argument in a well known gay bar with his deputy, stormed out while drunk, and then tragically crashed; perhaps we could put the conspiracy theories aside? As you’ve probably the heard—the simplest explanation is usually correct.

Posted by 413576721266745 on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:15 | #

Fred,

You could say that.

Much of the early Nazi leadership was gay. In fact, the Nazis were perhaps very progressive on this front (if I can use that word) until internal power struggles led to much of the gay leadership being ousted (the upper SA cadres were almost entirely gay). My own suspicion was that Strache had Haider put down, but the evidence suggests no foul play involved. It’s a bit silly to even think of it, though.

Well, playing dress up with uniforms. I suppose that’s right. But it’s really the emphasis on being part of an elite that will change the world, like the male unity of the Greek armies of the past. Haider himself was surrounded by young gay men who were drawn to his views, as are many other Euro right-wing leaders. Fortuyn, anyone? It may seem shocking to both the gay Left and the conservative Right, but history shows of a connection since the beginning.

I’d suggest spending some time in your local gay bar. The muscled torsos, the clean haircuts. You may see more similarities than you might imagine.

Posted by daveg on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:12 | #

Does seem that some, but not all, of hte effective leaders of the blood and soil movement are gay.

Obviously, the guy from the Netherlands comes to mind…

If they can get the job done, why not?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:24 | #

“I’d suggest spending some time in your local gay bar.  The muscled torsos, the clean haircuts.  You may see more similarities than you might imagine.”

Uhhhh .... thanks but, uhhh .... I think I’ll take your word for it, comrade .....

Posted by 413576721266745 on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:42 | #

Uhhhh .... thanks but, uhhh .... I think I’ll take your word for it, comrade .....

Hah!

Posted by snax on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:23 | #

I suspect 413576721266745 is the same guy posting as Resource21 at the OD forum:

http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7874

Seems to have a thing about gay nationalists.

Posted by danielj on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:20 | #

There is also allegations galore, some documented and others not so well documented, about skinheads and skinhead music that correspond. These allegations cover the racist (or normal as Fred would say) and non-racist varieties of skins.

Supposedly, there are photos of the lead singer of the Anti-Hero’s performing oral sex on another male.

Lyrics from the American Pie album:

<quote>F Hollywood

F Hollywood, f ‘em today, F the million dollar movies with nothing to say
F the Sixties, f Oliver Stone, F Rambo and Sylvester Stallone
F Jane Fonda and Shirley MacLaine, Wishd they were f-ing John Wayne
F Capt. Stubing and f tattoo, And if you don’t like this song then….F You!

[Chorus]
{Fuck, Fuck Hollywood [3x]}

F Sonny Bono and buttf Cher, Someone hit Geraldo with another chair
F Michael Jackson and child molesters, f Rock Hudson and Schwartzenegger
F the actors at the presidential ball, F Oprah and Arsenio Hall
F the Beach Boys those stupid pricks, Singing about women when they’re sucking dick

[Chorus]

F Hollywood, warped sense of reality, Where the truth is always the first casualty
F the causes and the coalitions, The exercise they get is jumping to conclusions
F the sex and f the smut, f the guys who take it up the butt
F Hollywood ‘cause they make me sick, it’s like sticking my head in a bucket of shit!</quote>

Quite a fixation.

It certainly is not outside of the realm of probability that the official story is true, but hey, nobody denied that.

Posted by Captainchaos on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:48 | #

If Strache can’t unite the right-wing of Austria behind him in light of these recent incidents I question his talent as a politician.

Posted by Calvin on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:04 | #

Who cares? Homosexuality is a fact of life. There always have been homosexuals and always will be homosexuals. We haven’t always had hostile non-European enclaves, race riots, a failing Black underclass, Sharia law and an “intellectual” elite that makes hatred of White culture compulsory. Who cares about what private citizens want to do to each other in private? Austrian voters who object to Haider’s alleged homosexuality should be shown video footage of the ethnic gangs who assembled in their hundreds to attack and rob student protesters in Paris. Take your pick!

Posted by Armor on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:56 | #

“There always have been homosexuals” (—Calvin)

But there are more and more of them everywhere, even among schoolchildren, and maybe some day among kindergarteners. It is a political attitude encouraged by “the left”. According to Pat Buchanan, a few things you can expect after Obama is elected, is that gays and lesbians in the military will be invited to come out of the closet, homosexual marriages may be recognized everywhere, and “Affirmative action—hiring and promotions based on race, sex and sexual orientation until specified quotas are reached—will be rigorously enforced throughout the U.S. government and private sector.”
If that happens, some people will say they are gay, not just to be cool, but also to get a job!

The newspapers usually do a lot of propaganda in favor of homosexuality, but I think the reason they said Haider had a homosexual relation was to damage his reputation, even though it is no one’s business, since he never talked about it.

Posted by Calvin on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:03 | #

“But there are more and more of them everywhere”

Having fewer responsibilities and more income gay men have always been at the forefront of fashion. What you see evident everywhere is a lifestyle choice impelled by the fashion industry. Look at the way the hetro community dress, think, act and behave. Looks pretty gay to me! Any culture that promotes indiscriminate, promiscious sexual behaviour will see a rise in that behaviour in every vector. I’m more worried about promiscuity, STDs, abortion and single parenthood among the under sixteen heterosexual population, however smug and irritating the “love that will not shut its mouth” has become.

Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:00 | #

Who cares? Homosexuality is a fact of life.

The problem is the disproportionate influence Jews maintain in the gay movement. It is a vehicle to further ethnic group interest under the meme that discrimination is indivisible.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:39 | #

Calvin, maybe I should make clear that when I called Petzner “a piece of garbage” (first comment in the thread) it was not at all because he was a homosexual.  It was solely because of his jaw-dropping indiscretion, his mind-numbing stupidity, selfishness, and immaturity in announcing to the world his relationship with Haider in a TV interview, announcing it at the most inappropriate time imaginable from all points of view, personal, political, you name it — all points of view.  I could not BELIEVE what I was reading when the news came out that he’d gone before the cameras at that extremely important and delicate moment in modern European history, and done that.  What a sad, sad, sad piece of shallow, selfish garbage he must be, and in saying that about him I am NOT referring to his private sex life, I’m referring to HIM.

Posted by Calvin on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:53 | #

Hi Fred, I totally agree that Petzner has acted in a very unmanly way. His reaction has been so damaging to the movement he is supposed to represent that I’m wondering if he has sold out in a most sinister way.

Desmond, I understand your point, but it seems to me that many Homosexuals are naturally conservative and have a lot to fear from multiculturalism, they might be even more amenable to our point of view if we didn’t live up to the stereotype carefully crafted for us by the enemies of European culture.

Posted by Enoch Was Right on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:18 | #

The only homosexual conservative I have known about was a councillor at the Kensington & Chelsea Conservatives (Dudley Fishburn-era), who was caught buggering a negro in the loo of a South African airport in the late 1980s. (Allison A.? Ms. Blacker? M. Palmer? Do you guys remember??) From what I can recall, he was Jewish.  Certainly many of the other so-called Conservatives I met whilst working at KCC were Jewish.  More than a fair number, I can recall.

Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:22 | #

many Homosexuals are naturally conservative

Colour me skeptical Calvin. It depends what is meant by conservative.

if we didn’t live up to the stereotype

In a proportionate sense it’s not entirely clear that “we” are the stereotype.

Hunter was reportedly attacked Sept. 7 by a group of four young African-American men just after he and a friend, Trevor Carter, left their car, which they had parked on a dead-end street near gay D.C. night spot BeBar.

Posted by Calvin on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:16 | #

Incidents like the one you cite highlight the animosity that exists between urban blacks and homosexuals. Gays and Muslims don’t get on too well together either. What’s the point of lending ammo to liberals by antagonising a politically active and well organized minority that’s not going anywhere anyway? It’s a total own goal if you ask me. Anyway, I expect we will continue to disagree about this. I will still continue to enjoy all of your posts.

Best Regards!

Posted by Desmond Jones on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:31 | #

By any measure Calvin, yours are the more enjoyable.

Just ask Fred. 

Oidhche mhath

Posted by Armor on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:39 | #

- “many Homosexuals are naturally conservative”
- “It depends what is meant by conservative”

It also depends what is meant by homosexual, and what is meant by many.
If someone has had a homosexual experience, it probably has no influence on his political views. But if someone dresses in a funny way and has a theory that he is different because he was born with a gay gene, then he may not be a natural conservative.

“antagonising a politically active and well organized minority”

But are there a lot of them? I think most people who are engaged in a homosexual relationship are not gay activists at all and do not support same-sex marriage and the adoption of children by same-sex couples.
I don’t think you will lose much support by opposing same-sex marriage and gay propaganda in the schools.

Posted by Retew on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:04 | #

Homosexual conservatives in Britain? Here’s a few;

Alan Duncan, a current MP.

Matthew Parris, the Times journalist and ex-Tory MP.

Michael Brown, the Independent journalist and ex-Tory MP.

Harvey Proctor, the anti-immigration MP who was forced to resign in 1987 over a sex scandal inviolving spanking rent boys.

Anthony R G S Earl-Williams (a North London councillor who wrote to the satirical magazine Private Eye a time or two in the late 80’s).

Ivan Massow, a London councillor.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:53 | #

A few excerpts from Takuan’s new piece:

But that’s exactly the same experience relayed through innumerable news items posted by BrusselsJournal.com about Europeans victimized and terrorized by Muslim (or just plain African) immigrants who are under European governments’ sponsorship and protection, while the choices left to Europe’s rightful owners are to stew in terminal frustration, read The Camp of the Saints under cover with a flashlight, or emigrate.

We [aware Euro-race folk] are unwilling to shut up about the de facto culling of whites by black and brown crime and Muslim terrorists.  We are angry at the authorities’ cowardice in failing to confront these problems.

[...] We are particular people trying to live our particular lives.  And for that we need our particular ethnicity and our singular culture, as other peoples need theirs.

Our ethnicity has a universal component:  we are all Europeans, or descendants of Europeans.  This is implanted in our cultural, spiritual and moral makeup.

[...] Racial differences are real, and not only in obvious physical features but in cognitive and psychological ones as well.  This is increasingly moving from the realm of behavioral and cognitive statistics to hard genomic science.

Many of the differences do not favor whites, e.g., white mean IQs versus East Asians, or white bodily-kinesthetic and musical intelligence scores versus those of blacks.  But whites score far better than blacks and browns in areas of intelligence such as Logical-Mathematical and Verbal-Linguistic that are prerequisites for well-paying jobs in the modern economy.  And since liberalism starts from the premise that all people would be equal in education, status and income were it not for malign social structures that hold back “minorities,” liberals spare no effort to stop contrary science.

[...] 4% -5% of foreign-origin residents seems to be the level at which the marginal utility of diversity becomes zero, with negative values above that. [...]

They [the other side, including the Overlords] view the refusal to tolerate the intolerable as unacceptable intolerance, and the desire to protect and preserve one’s family, community, country and culture as racism and xenophobia. 

[...] A European who cares about Europe ought to care about America and Australia, because when America goes, so does his freedom, whatever remains of it.  And if Australia goes, he has no place to go in case life in Eurabia has become untenable and Multiamerica slides into a 1984 scenario.

In the excerpt’s first paragraph where Jean Raspail’s The Camp of the Saints is mentioned I was going to put a link to the Wikipedia article but that turned out to be, I have to say truly without exaggeration, the most biased hatchet-job I’ve ever seen at Wikipedia, so I simply I linked to the title of the paperback on sale at the Amazon.com site. 

That Wiki thing was just nauseating, an outrage.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:58 | #

I had intended to add that Takuan’s references in that piece to race, inborn IQ differences, and other details were quite daring considering the site where he posted that normally doesn’t allow that stuff, and its other writers don’t believe in it.  Never in a million years would Fjordman write that, for example.  Takuan may not last long there.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:28 | #

Takuan’s pushing his luck:  here‘s another dangerous (meaning truth-telling) article by him over at his home base, BrusselsJournal.com.  (He’s a Polish Catholic, by the way — he gives his tribe in one of the thread comments.)