Grandfathers. Great-grandfathers.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:11.

My father, an Englishmen, served in 1944 as a Flight Lieutenant and pilot with 75 Squadron Royal New Zealand Airforce. My grandfather was a medical orderly in the Gallipoli Campaign of April-December 1915. Through these tenuous links I claim some small interest in ...

... Anzac Day, which is tomorrow. Lest we forget.

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Posted by Jude on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:54 | #

ANZAC Day has already begun here (5.30am). Dawn Parades and Services everywhere. I have watched the celebrations on this day get bigger and bigger. Nothing is open until 1pm and it is a national holiday in NZ. Australian and New Zealand parades are marvellous, they take hours - bands, regiments, Scouts, returned soldiers, nurses, all march. It is very moving.
Yesterday morning on Radio Pacific heard an interview with Vera Lynn by telephone. She is 90 and still gracious and well spoken - she even sang a line of song.
The build-up to ANZAC Day takes place over the previous week.
My father flew with NZ’s only dive bomber squadron. He trained in Canada and returned to NZ on the Achilles.

Posted by gongstar on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:44 | #

Barry Humphries (v. good on liberal psychology) had a female folk-singer character who didn’t believe Gallipoli really happened. ‘Denial’ isn’t confined to the Holycaust.

Posted by doestooexist on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:15 | #

ot: you’ve got fans at the graun, geedub. (or was it you drumming up traffic?)

doesnotexist

April 25, 2007 2:01 PM

Certainly there was a doctrinaire element to anthropology when I studied it three decades ago (I remember the principle that “all social events have social causes” being presented as beyond challenge), and evolutionary perspectives in particular have a lot to offer. But, as the Jenkins blog also showed, this debate does tend to bring some pretty odious characters out of the woodwork - just google “Guessedworker” and you’ll get a taste of the far right racist demi-monde.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2064664,00.html

Posted by Anonymous Rogue AI on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:32 | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSql1CPXGI

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:33 | #

Yes, doestooexist, I assert the moral right of the English to England. Do you disagree with that - and, if so, why? Are you an environmentalist? Are you a holocaust-believer?

Posted by PCA on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:28 | #

““Certainly there was a doctrinaire element to anthropology when I studied it three decades ago (I remember the principle that “all social events have social causes” being presented as beyond challenge), and evolutionary perspectives in particular have a lot to offer. But, as the Jenkins blog also showed, this debate does tend to bring some pretty odious characters out of the woodwork - just google “Guessedworker” and you’ll get a taste of the far right racist demi-monde.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2064664,00.htm

Posted by doestooexist on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 at 04:15 PM |”“

The link you gave only produced hysteria from the following poster ‘alex221166’.

Thanks for the Guardian link; it was the usual pseudo-science, from the ‘social’ sciences.

Guessedworker, my relatives have died as Australians in WW1 & WW2 and fought in The Boer War, WW1 (for which my Great grandfather was awarded an OBE) and WW2. My father was called up for Vietnam, but was never required to fight.. I really appreciate your post.

Posted by doestooexist on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:33 | #

geedub sez: Yes, doestooexist, I assert the moral right of the English to England. Do you disagree with that - and, if so, why? Are you an environmentalist? Are you a holocaust-believer?

doestooexist replies: no, i’m on yr side! just thought you might be interested in the mensh at the graun, that’s all.

Posted by doestooexist on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:43 | #

ach, mea culpa! you were already IN the graun thread when yr name was taken in vain. sorry—i didn’t see you and thought it was a ref ex nihilo.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:31 | #

Yep, that’s about the size of it!

Apologies for my misreading. That’s only the second thread discussion I’ve had there, and I’m a bit nervous on the old trigger finger.

Posted by Friedrich Braun on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:37 | #

An appropriate song:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSSrJ3CoSf4

Posted by Aynoch'n'Ayli on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:40 | #

I am usually highly allergic to NS memorabilia, particularly in this kind of context but that was genuinely moving, Friedrich and I believe posted in all sincerity.

Let us hope that in this century, no more “good comrades” are sacrificed in futile cousins’ wars.

Posted by jimbo on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:42 | #

ZOG pollies in Oz hv been trying for yrs to use ANZAC day as a justification for future ZOG military mis-adventures!

its real significance is to honour & remember those Aussies & Kiwis who fell in combat: the ‘justification(s)’ for such combat r both in-appropriate & irrelevant!

Posted by Ernest on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:55 | #

Another appropriate song/video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGKATq3uGyI

Posted by Friedrich Braun on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:02 | #

Hollywood jews certainly know how to stereotype Germans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMVql9RLP34

Posted by Rebecca on Tue, 01 May 2012 04:34 | #

I would just like to ask permission to use the black and white photo of the soldier carrying another soldier for a school assignment. Please respond quickly. Thank you.