Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:38 | #

Mark,

It’s just the sacrifice of white ethnic genetic interests to something else.  There’s always something else, something more important.  Equality.  Making money for big corporations.  The safety of Jews.  These things have taken possession of the zeitgeist.  It’s liberalism.  We are powerless.

Furthermore, we are not yet at the point of the limit of travel of liberalism in all its manifestations.  It is not even clear to me that a natural point at which the pendulum loses momentum - and necessarily must swing back - exists.  It might.  There might be a natural law, a gravity of ethnic genetic interest, which decrees that the burden of liberalism upon Western Man will grow so intolerable, so unacceptable that a restorative will among our people arises.  But I prefer not to rely upon faith.  We must endeavour, instead, to create the will now, ourselves.

Posted by Amon on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:51 | #

Funny: that policy paper doesn’t even explain WHY this Pacific Union would be beneficial. No, that would be too hard.

Posted by Steve Edwards on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:40 | #

Let’s see - we have the EU, FTAA, African Union, ASEAN, and now Oceania. Sounds to me like somebody’s building themselves a world government.

Posted by Tournament of Champions on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:29 | #

There might be a natural law, a gravity of ethnic genetic interest, which decrees that the burden of liberalism upon Western Man will grow so intolerable, so unacceptable that a restorative will among our people arises.

That may be so, but theoretically there is nothing to guarantee survival for any people. Rather selective sweeps are the biological norm, and the world might be in the early-intermediate stages of a jewish selective sweep. That is, perhaps 100,000 years from now all individuals surviving will be descended from Jews living today only, these inferior goyim with their 2 to 4 verbal s.d. deficiencies in analytical and communicative powers will be seen as a sort of homo erectus, long gone from the face of the earth…

Posted by AD on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:44 | #

If we are to participate in the ‘world economy’ then we have no choice but to form a bloc like everyone else. Oceania still probably won’t be enough to compete anyway with a population of around 33 million.

Our only alternative is to take the road of protectionism and self sufficiency. The road that made us and New Zealand the two most prosperous nations per capita back in the 50s.The days when we used to actually build things here with a homogenous population striving towards a common goal…all that yucky Hansonite stuff that irks everyone from the libertarians to the hardline bolsheviks. I can hear them whince at the thought; omg teh white australia suxed with no good cuisine just racist meat pies!!!

We couldn’t have that, it’d be ‘backwards’ according to todays right,left and centre. We need to be ‘outward looking’.

Posted by AD on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:55 | #

p.s- Guessedworker, how about a Jack London or Ezra Pound graphic next?

Posted by Svigor on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:56 | #

It’s just the sacrifice of white ethnic genetic interests to something else.  There’s always something else, something more important.  Equality.  Making money for big corporations.  The safety of Jews.

That’s perfectly well-said.  It doesn’t matter what the “something else” is, the only qualification is that it is indeed something else.

This thread runs throughout liberalism (which as you’re always saying, runs throughout the Zeitgeist), the fact that liberalism is more about destroying western civilization than any positive goal.

Posted by Kubilai on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:36 | #

John,

What the hell are you talking about?  Read Steve Edward’s comment above and let that sink in for a second or two.  NZ independent from Oz is no big victory because the elite WANT whites to not form cohesive groups with one another.  They love it when one white ethnostate rejects another’s ideology and tries to distance itself from it.  United we stand, divided we fall and all that jazz.  What is NOT allowed is white countries remaining “resolutely independent” from non-whites within and outside their own countries.  THAT is the problem.  Sometimes you come across as so obtuse it no longer remains amusing.

Posted by Lurker on Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:32 | #

The elites would look with horror at a united Oz & NZ without PNG, that would be like Austria & Germany without Turkey or some other racist horror! Or, God forbid, US & Canada without the benefit of Mexico - just think how awfully non-vibrant that would be.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:15 | #

Speaking of NZ…

Immigrant rapist attacks for fourth time
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/print.cfm?c_id=231&objectid=3611467

Refugee rapist attacks for fourth time

18.11.2004

An Iraqi refugee convicted of raping a student should have been stripped of his citizenship and sent home after being jailed for three brutal sex attacks on other women, his latest victim says.

The woman, who is traumatised by the brutal rape, is angry and wants answers as to why Akeel Hassan Abbas Al Baiiaty was able to stay. “He should have been thrown out of this country after he served his time,” she said.

A quota refugee from Iraq, Al Baiiaty, 35, has described himself as a loner who only wanted a girlfriend. When he could not find one he lured prostitutes and raped them.

But he also attacked another woman: a 20-year-old Australian student - his latest victim.

Last night a Wellington District Court jury took 3 1/2 hours to find Al Baiiaty guilty of sexual violation by rape, abduction with intent to have sex and assault.

He has been remanded in custody until December 14 for the judge to consider the Crown’s application for preventive detention.

The Dominion Post reports that:

* Internal Affairs did not ask for his citizenship to be revoked, meaning he could not be deported.

* He was paroled to a family that did not want him and was thrown out after a week.

* He moved to a hostel, which was approved by the Probation Service, but the hostel was not told he was on parole for rape.

* Police were called when he harassed women at the hostel but did not realise his criminal past because he gave them a false name.

* Community probation lost track of him when he left the hostel.

* He moved into a student hostel despite not being a student.

Previously, Al Baiiaty was sentenced to nine years in prison for the rape of two Auckland prostitutes and assault with intent to rape a third.

Two months after he was released, he attacked his fourth victim, who says those who could have prevented the assault had failed.

“If somebody had done their job right this would never have happened. And it needs to be more than just a slap on the wrist. I’d hate to pick up the paper one day and read that the same thing has happened to some other girl, because some department didn’t do their job properly.”

The officer in charge of the case, Detective Scott Hunter, described the rape as one of the most brutal he had investigated. “It is beyond comprehension that a man could do this to someone else. It should not have happened and could have been avoided.”

Last October, Al Baiiaty was stripped of his citizenship - granted in November 1997 - on the grounds he had not told the truth about his character.

He had committed his first rapes in between signing his application and the citizenship ceremony.

Had his citizenship been revoked when he was sentenced to prison for the rapes, the Immigration Service could have applied for his deportation. But it did not happen.

Internal Affairs, the department responsible for citizenship status, said that in such cases the onus was on individuals to advise of a change in their circumstances.

Al Baiiaty served 6 1/2 years of his sentence. Shortly before his release he gave the Corrections Department an address in Porirua, where he could live.

The address was passed to the Community Probation Service for checking for suitability. However, the Dominion Post reported it understood the service was told Al Baiiaty was not wanted there.

Despite that, on December 15 last year - a few weeks before his final release date - he went to live at the house. By Christmas Eve, he had packed his bags and was delivered by a relative to a hostel in Porirua.

Four days after moving in, Al Baiiaty began making advanaces on the women residents, grabbing them and making sexually explicit suggestions.

By January 4 the residents had had enough and he was evicted.

The hostel’s manager, who says he was never told that Al Baiiaty was a sex offender on parole, called the police to complain about his sexually aggressive tenant.

Police asked Al Baiiaty about his identity, but he misspelled his last name, meaning a check failed to bring up his parole status, the manager said. He was confined to his room for the night under a curfew and the next morning he was gone.

Homeless, Al Baiiaty went to a student hostel and was given a room. He was the only non-student living there.

The probation service did not know he had moved.

There he continued his pattern of harassing women residents.

On February 8, he lured his victim to his room by yelling for help. He dragged her inside, locked the door and raped her.

- NZPA

Posted by Andrew on Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:29 | #

Gee Geoff, you are turning into a libiterian, Just shoot the bastard where he stands.

Posted by Andrew on Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:50 | #

Breathtaking, Great, we can become the basket case republic of Oceana,  Fairdinkum. They really have lost the plot. Intellectual worshipers of Existentialism and Zen Buddhist are our philosophical archetypes they really have lost the plot. Break out the Beer, drown in our sorrow’s.

Posted by Freddy on Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:27 | #

I’m sure thta such a plan (i.e. a South Pacific federation) has been in the minds of our political elites for some time, given, for example the huge influx of Pacific Islanders into New Zealand over the past 35 years or so. OUr overlords seem to want to create an Oceanic panmixia, the end result of such being a population of swarthy Anglo-asian-polynesians.

That a piece of Saracen filth such as Al Baiiaty should have been allowed to enter New Zealand is depressing in the extreme.