Posted by John S Bolton on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:55 | #

In view of the Spanish and other EU welfare state provisions, such immigration can’t help but be massive aggression on the net taxpayers. Those who are made to pay for all this are the ones who have rights; not the footloose and criminal who say they want the freedom of Spain.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:38 | #

Anyone with a reasonable understanding of history knows that we, in the West, are facing an invasion migration only equaled by the barbarian migrations of the late Roman Empire, or the settlement of North America by Europeans.

Oriana Fallaci calls the current movement ‘reverse colonization’.

Unfortunately this epic phenonomen is unmentionable among our ‘elite’ and MSM.

Those few, like many at MR, that understand the crisis are marginalized. The others are marginalized by cheap beer, entertainment, and too much food.

I don’t know what to do?

I give money and time to immigration restriction groups like FAIR & Numbersusa. I yell at my elected officials… but nothing seems to happen.

Yes. I know they’ve been bought off and are corrupt.

With this said can anyone explain to me what our troops are doing in Iraq? and not on our own borders?

Posted by wintermute on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:21 | #

With this said can anyone explain to me what our troops are doing in Iraq?

Defending Israel.

http://www.vdare.com/francis/zelikow_and_the_threat.htm

The Asia Times reported last week that a gentleman named Philip Zelikow, a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board in 2001, said in a speech months before the war that “the real threat” of Iraq was not to the United States but “against Israel.”

Speaking to an audience at the University of Virginia, where he teaches military history, Mr. Zelikow said, “And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell”—which is why the real reasons had to be masked with what now appear to have been just plain lies about “weapons of mass destruction,” “links” between Saddam and Al Qaeda and other concoctions.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:44 | #

Guessedworker:

As someone who lives in the U.K., can you or somebody else tell me, what levers can the ordinary person, that bothers to think about the immigration disaster, push to change the policies.

In the U.S there are the pressure groups like Numbersusa and FAIR. There is a growing body of Congressmen that are organizing, currently about their number is about 70 / 465. This group is led by Rep. Tom Tancredo, from Colorado.

Craig Nelson at ProjectUSA installs embarrasing billboards in representatives districts, like these: here, and here

Does the U.K. use lobbying groups as in the U.S? Or is your only recourse to elect a party with strong immigration restrictions as a platform?

Have agitators thought of embarrassing elected officials in the manner of Craig Nelson? I give money to many of these groups and I’ve given my time. I think many in the U.K would too!

We can’t wait around for the government to act, that is suicide.

Posted by Marc on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:02 | #

Christ, what is happening to us?

Posted by wintermute on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:21 | #

Christ, what is happening to us?

Unless I miss my guess: biological parasitism, via hijacking of social information networks.

This is not as farfetched as it might sound: there is precedent for it in another major order of social animals, the Hymenoptera.

Consider Monomorium Santschii, a highly evolved social parasite, which usurps the hierarchy of the colonies it invades via pheremone manipulation, thus subjugating the worker ants who are then forced to kill their own mother. The invader queen lays eggs which are tended by the remaining host workers, whose nation . . . errrr, colony, is left utterly bereft of the means of replicating itself through time.

Monomorium Santscii is so successful with its evolved strategy that it lost its own worker cast long ago.

From page 252 of Richard Dawkins’ book, The Selfish Gene:

But sawing off heads is a bit of a chore. Parasites are not accustomed to exerting themselves if they can coerce a stand-in. My favourite character in Wilson’s The Insect Societies is Monomorium santschii.

This species, over evolutionary time, has lost its worker caste altogether. The host workers do everything for their parasites, even the most terrible task of all. At the behest of the invading parasite queen, they actually perform the deed of murdering their own mother. The usurper doesn’t need to use her jaws. She uses mind-control.

How she does it is a mystery; she probably employs a chemical, for ant nervous systems are generally highly attuned to them. If her weapon is indeed chemical, then it is as insidious a drug as any known to science.

For think what it accomplishes. It floods the brain of the worker ant, grabs the reins of her muscles, woos her from deeply ingrained duties and turns her against her own mother. For ants, matricide is an act of special genetic madness and formidable indeed must be the drug that drives them to it. In the world of the extended phenotype, ask not how an animal’s behaviour benefits its genes; ask instead whose genes it is benefiting.

In the world of an extended phenotype . . .

What else is the West?

I doubt there is a single major question facing those interested in “majority rights” which cannot be answered by recourse to the highlighted sentence in Dawkins’ account, above.

For example, Geoff’s important question:

With this said can anyone explain to me what our troops are doing in Iraq?

Would anyone like to apply Dawkins’ heuristic to Geoff’s question, to see what answers it yields?

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:18 | #

As someone who lives in the U.K., can you or somebody else tell me, what levers can the ordinary person, that bothers to think about the immigration disaster, push to change the policies?

Geoff, there are no levers.  The policies that will change our fate are: leave or break-up the EU; repudiate all the international Charters and Conventions which act to restrict our powers of self-defence; set a strict limit and also high intellectual or professional standards for future immigration; find an acceptable means to remove the existing non-European peoples who do not meet those standards etc.  But such policies are not compatible with liberalism and cannot exist within a liberal polity.  So liberalism must be changed for Conservatism.

Ordinary people cannot act meta-politically.  We can, though, move from decrying the effects of liberalism to proposing an end to liberalism.  We can talk about it, theorise it, familiarise others with it.  That is our privilege and our duty.  But more than that, probably not.

Posted by a reader on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:18 | #

Isabell and Ferdinand must be rolling in their graves. These are a people that fought a 700 year struggle to drive the muslims out, letting them back in in hordes, hordes that look a seville and granada as theirs.

Is there any clear illustration of the insanity of the west?
One selfish generation of baby boomers trashing 1000 years of history.

Posted by Matra on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:29 | #

Last night actor James Woods told CNBC that it was confirmed to him by the FBI that restrictions on racial profiling was the reason they did not investigate Woods’ complaint about the behaviour of Arabs on a flight he was on a couple of months before 9/11. He said some of the suspicious Arabs were killed on 9/11 presumably as hijackers. Wasn’t it the Bush Administration that was responsible for stopping racial profiling? Did anyone on Fox or in National Review mention that in the run up to the election? I doubt it, you see at this vital moment in Western history all the energy of the American Right is focused on some meaningless dispute in Iraq. It was political correct multiculturalism and virtual open borders that led to 9/11 not Saddam’s mostly harmless kleptocracy.

There appears to be some movement on immigration issues in the US, but it is in spite of the neocons and Bush,  not because of them. European governments (including Spain’s) may be a disgrace, as Bush-worshipping warbloggers keep reminding us, but the US government isn’t much better. Indeed, if you visit a neocon warblog there’s a good chance you will see a “Thank Tony” link. That’s the same Tony who is systematically destroying the UK’s cultural and political heritage. It’s difficult to not come to the conclusion that the established US Right puts the Middle East ahead of everything else.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:36 | #

“Thank Tony” link

Perhaps this is what V.S. Naipaul was suggesting when he accused Blair of creating a “pirate culture” in Britain?

Is Blair still promoting the “cool Brittiania” idea?

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:54 | #

No.  That was Mandelson’s creation, intended to “re-brand Britain” as all-of-a-sudden modern and progressive. Serious people poured scorn on it, of course.  For the serious right, denied power for the first time in eighteen years as it was, such a craven attraction to the frothy and inconsequential world of pop and stage was rather encouraging ...  perhaps such immaturity signalled a government incapable of causing permanent damage.  Wrong.  The million or more third-world immigrants we’ve acquired since Labour came to power see their right to remain among us as entirely permanent.

Posted by ben tillman on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:30 | #

Dawkins:

In the world of the extended phenotype, ask not how an animal’s behaviour benefits its genes; ask instead whose genes it is benefiting.

In the same vein is this comment from evolutionary biologist George C. Williams:

As a general rule, a modern biologist seeing an animal doing something to benefit another assumes either that it is being manipulated by the other individual or that it is being subtly selfish.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:10 | #

Well, apparently, we have a few American politicians willing to fight:

view here

Posted by Svigor on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 03:22 | #

The software ate my post. In short, I think Brazil is our future.  Fortunately, this means that the U.S.A. will cease to be a superpower enforcing its brand of multiculturalism and multiracialism on the world, and European man will be free to make a fresh start here and there.

Then there’s the whole transhumanism thing to consider (i.e., all bets are off), which unlike some I think more likely than any “conventional” future. (I won’t bother to argue it here; it’s self-evident, and I think those who pooh-pooh it a) don’t know what they’re talking about and/or b) aren’t psychologically or intellectually capable of understanding it)

Posted by Geoff Beck on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:18 | #

Svigor:

I love what this country was and what the West accomplished. In order to honor our great ancestors I propose America be <u>euthanized</u>. If not the triumphalists and empire builders will bring this nation to its knees, with prolonged agony.

Perhaps the best course of action is to subvert the ruling government by cynicism, trickery, apathy, sloth, lies, and insincerity. The quicker the house is brought down the sooner a new order can be found.

How long did the chaos in the Western Roman Empire last?  Maybe, 400 years until Charlemagne and the papacy restored, however weakly at first, order and laid the foundation of modern Europe?

We ought to bury all the we deem crucial to restoring order in some dark deep cave so that future generations may appreciate the accomplishments of the last millinium. The mongrels being bred today cannot.

Posted by killer rabbit on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:37 | #

Yeah, subvert America, that’s the spirit!

No more racial purity, no more country! Yay! Bring on the nukes!

This site started out promisingly enough, but now it seems to be the property of Nutzi & Co. JRay and GW are the only ones exhibiting any form of sanity.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:12 | #

Killer Rabbit:

I watched the Bush’s SOTU just before I wrote the previous post. I realized the Republican party nominated a radical socialist that wants to demographically annihilate America by Mexican immigration. I was distraught.

After reading your post I realized there’s nothing I or anyone else could do to destroy America more than the program of GWB.

Still It’s sad to think of all the dead boys in Guadalcanal, Vietnam, and now Iraq that have suffered so this idiot can destroy the nation.