Live8 might as well drop dead

Posted by Guessedworker on Saturday, 02 July 2005 12:41.

Willingly, I never give a penny to charities beyond those serving the needy of my own people.  Willingly, I never entertain the solicitations of charities “supporting” the Third World.  Sub-Saharan Africa is completely beyond the pale.  Africans will never, never overcome their inate characteristics - which, of course, include:-

1) A disastrously low average IQ productive of n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

2) Sexual aggression, leading directly to violence and acts of surpassing cruelty at every level from the personal to the genocidal.

3) A striking poverty in those cooperative qualities upon which social and economic progress depend, in consequence of which African rulers are invariably corrupt despots and life for African people is invariably insecure, oft times bestial.

“Make poverty history” is a truly pathetic, wasteful and ignorant idea.  “Make low-IQ history” or “Make sexual aggression history” would make more sense if the developed world grasped the eugenic nettle and bred Africa into some semblance of tolerableness.  But drug-busted, non-musical pop people ... idiot-crowds waving their arms aloft in Hyde Park ... “Sir Bob” and the whole ghastly, liberalistic Mandela-isation of global politics completely turns me off ... dude.

The only, marginally respectable argument for charity to Africa is that some of those who get their hands on the dough might be good enough not to come and live amongst us.  But I don’t think even that modest return on our “investment” will come about.  Nothing sustains in Africa.  Africans will keep coming until we have to close the door.

Around the world billions of predictably suggestible airheads, they say, will view the great publicity stunt.  I never listen to “bands”.  Big children with a few hundred amps but no musicality hold not the slightest appeal for me.  Shan’t watch.  Shan’t listen.  Shan’t pay any attention.  Obviously, shan’t donate.



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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:20 | #

The shows are more about the people organizing them than it is about Africans. It is basically about Money (think of how the organizers will spin this off for several years for their own benefit), it is about the popularity ratings of our Politicians, the tastes of modern society and the hypocrisy that surrounds us.

A friend wrote to me about this:

It has more to do with their poll numbers, I believe (for Blair). When popularity is down, take up a high moral cause. Dont be fooled. It’s all false.  I mean, Im sure it gives them a bit of a cuddly feeling to be helping them ni__ers and all. But that wont stop him (Blair) fretting about the money he lost on all his mansions, and Booth’s speaking engagements.

These shows are not a reflection on Africans (who haven’t changed that much over the Millennia), it is a reflection on us and our current state.


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:31 | #

Foreign Aid is the greatest con since Ponzi went out of business.


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Posted by friedrich braun on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:04 | #

No amount of foreign aid will help Negroes. Only massive genetic engineering might; and that’s at least a few decades down the line.


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:00 | #

> Live8 might as well drop dead

Hey, where is the Anglo-Saxon equivocation? grin


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:51 | #

Doesn’t take much to get hundreds of thousands of idiots on the streets



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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:06 | #

I can’t express, the grief and sorrow I feel for the English, how could such a Race descend into madness and triviality? Americans… well we are prone to such excitements, but the once mighty English! What a tragedy for humanity and Albion.


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:10 | #

Those pictures are from Scotland by the way. Edinburgh actually.


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:12 | #

> Those pictures are from Scotland by the way. Edinburgh actually.

Ah, well, there is hope!

Is Geldorf Scottish? Doesn’t sound it.

(Yes, I know it is Geldoff, but I prefer Geldorf, dorf connoting idiot).


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:13 | #

That is not to say that we don’t have our own stupid plebeians. (chuckle)


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:14 | #

Is Geldorf Scottish? Doesn’t sound it.

I think he’s Irish.


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:46 | #

I need to watch my mouth and listen to my “J-Dar”. Gedlof’s father was Jewish. So he’s a Half-Jew.



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Posted by WDman on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:01 | #

1) A disastrously low average IQ productive of n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

Great. Can you explain how two of the five earliest civilizations were African, while none were European?

Can you explain why it took Europeans until the 19th century to develop a technology that Africans developed in 1400 BC?


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:18 | #

WDman:

Your examples are pretty thin, is that all you can connive? I could fill pages and pages listing the accomplishments of the White man.

How do you explain the average IQ of the sub-Saharan African being around 70? Futhermore, why don’t they fix their own problems, why do they need the White man to hold welfare rallies for them?


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Posted by Phil on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:19 | #

David,

A half volley on leg stump. smile


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Posted by Kubilai on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:50 | #

I must admit that this is not my writing, however, it may shed some light…

Brahmins, Hittites, Babylonians, Phoenicians, all caucasoid, to be sure; but white? No way. Phoenicians, for example, were recently demonstrated through genetic means to be the forerunners to the Lebanese (who also have Arab admixture too owing to the Muslim conquests). The only whites are the peoples of Europe. Some European Jews may be white if they’re mostly European rather than Semitic and/or Khazar.”

The Hittites invented Iron (no, it wasn’t the Chinese) and ushered in the Iron Age, while conquering all that lay in their path. No one has ever figured out for sure where the Hittites came from. But it is the Celts who are credited with being the first people to use Iron to strap a wooden wheel to make it stronger so their chariots could endure more. The Hittites kept their iron making skills a secrete until their empire died. The Celts had iron strapped wheels before the Hittite empire ended- why? Do they share a common tribal ancestor? I don’t know, but it’s food for thought. You must always always remember that much of Europe and the lands east, where our ancient ancestors came from, was covered by three Ice Ages. We will never know what was there before the last Ice Age, let alone the others. But they have found 4 cm carvings of horses and people with delicately carved eyes (pupils) and other facial features that are 30,000 years old- in Germany. Those figurines required advanced tools to make them- no flint or stone would have worked. You figure it out. These people went South to gain warmer climates, not for conquest and glory. Who knows what they left behind to be covered by ice. Much that we thought was so about ancient Europe 50 years ago has been mothballed and replaced by new discoveries and ideas that where thought to be impossible.

Look at the coinage and sculptures of the ancients- you can see it.
As I said above, stop and think, use logic. Use the facts around you, think about what you know to be unimpeachable truth. Then ask yourself, how could a people, supposedly living in caves while the Egyptians were building temples, reach out and conquer the world so effortlessly time and time again? The simple answer is always the right answer. Did the Germanic peoples wear animal skins because they couldn’t weave cloth, or did they wear it because it was warmer then cloth? The kilt wearing red and blond haired 3,000 year old mummies found in China tell us otherwise. They tell us a story of a people who had tamed horses and made saddles and advanced bows and a plow long before those we had credited it with had them. They tell us the story of a people filled with a wanderlust and a need to share their technology with the world- just like we do to this very day. They tell us the story of a people, who, coming into a new land, conquered it not by force of arms, but by intelligence and technological advantage. We see a people who, over time, displaced and overcome by another (sometimes native) population as their gene pool dries up and vanishes. Then we see a new people whose technology stops evolving, the culture also remains stagnant- for thousands of years.
But we also see a people who stayed behind in their own lands, and there the technology continued to develop. We, the European peoples, did not steal anything from anyone. We, the European peoples did not conquer, humiliate and subjugate peoples out of pure greed. Where ever we went we brought our technology with us and shared it with the native peoples. We brought light into darkness, we brought learning into an ignorance filled void. We brought commerce and the spread of ideas- we brought humanity to savages. We brought the rule of law and the mercy of a Christian G-D to those who had never known it. We brought charity to those who had known only the heel of a “boot”.
Yes, we did some things no one is proud of, but were we worse then what we replaced or better? It wasn’t Cortez who practiced mass human sacrifice, it was the Aztecs. It wasn’t the British who buried thousands of servants with a Royal, it was the Chinese. It wasn’t the Romans who pillaged and plundered, it was the Romans who brought peace and uniform laws with them so trade could be conducted in an orderly fashion. We brought high art and a sense of a beauty. We brought the ability to farm, the ability to build cities and the means to care for the poor and infirm.

This is not from Stormfront or the White-History site, but from a poster on another board.  I do not know enough about ancient, UNADULTERATED history to make a comment on this, however I would love to hear from others on this board if they agree or disagree with it in whole or in part.


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Posted by Kubilai on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:04 | #

As to the Live8 crapola, we relieve ALL third world debt, then what?  Should we start the ticker all over again or just keep it pegged at zero?  Pure transfer of wealth and nothing more from the many (idiots) to a select few criminals.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:28 | #

Oh dear, oh law WDman, not the “brilliant blacks” meme, please ... not on this of all days, when blind gullibility and intellectual laziness are already in such vast and painfully undeniable over-supply.

Well, OK.  I suppose that in your hopeless case 300,000 years of social destruction just isn’t enough to form any conclusions about life in da hood.  Not even the outline of one.  Facts?  What’s the point?  You don’t want to know about the small, light negro brain, do you?  You don’t want to know about the excellent correlation between grey matter volume and IQ… or the equally robust one between IQ and wealth.  You don’t want to know about the narrowness of black women’s hips, do you?  Ever noticed them, btw.  That’s evolution, you see.  Yer average black women give birth to babies with small heads housing - wait for it - small brains.

Actually, now that black males so like to shave their small heads you can observe this phenomenon very easily.  Notice the narrow foreheads, sloping quickly away to that shiny pate.  Often kind of ... small, isn’t it?

But you don’t want to know that.  You don’t want to know about the soaring peaks in serum testosterone rhythmicity, either - in yer average black males and females.  Ever wondered about that deep brown timbre of the Negroid voice ... the generosity of the sexual member ... the early sexualisation (life gets interesting boy/girl-wise in Sub-Saharan Africa any time from 7 years old or so)?  Ever wondered why black “culture” never gets past hip-grinding?

You should open your eyes and try it some time.  Not the hip grinding.  The wondering thing.  Because as you are now, you are standing in opposition to all the valid science on the matter and, indeed, to evolution itself.  For you, evolution has mysteriously stopped at the neck.  Pretty silly position to try to defend, don’t you think?

Still, you are not alone.  All the anti-white racists of the liberal-left are standing beside you.  Hold hands and sing with crowd, WDman.  It might help you feel you have a valid point of some sort, though I don’t know what it can possibly be.  Ah ... you haven’t.  But then Africans weren’t using the Bessemer process in 1400 BC either - were they, dumbo?

But let’s not be too hard on them.  There was and is one thing at which they are the very best in the word: they’ve got great rythmic intelligence.  You know ... bang, bang, bang ... bong.  They got us beat there for sure.  Maybe we need some Affirmative Action.


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Posted by friedrich braun on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:06 | #

Charles Murray’s Human Accomplishment unsurprisingly places the civilizational “contributions” of sub-Saharan Africans at the very, very buttom.


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Posted by friedrich braun on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:48 | #

Everything in this world is set up to help the stupid and incompetent. How about helping the smart and productive for a change?


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Posted by Andrew L on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:10 | #

We are helping the smart and productive, The African leaders are smart enough to realise we are all dumb, and take the money we give them, marvilous plan, and it works, It is us who are Dumb and unproductive, we should be getting aid, not Aids from Africa, Hmmmmm.
I guess the Mercedes Bowanna’s will update their fleet, untill the next poverty removing fund arrives, OO yeh, who is dumb now.


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Posted by friedrich braun on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:21 | #

“Make poverty history!”

LOL

How about outlawing the moon?


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Posted by Andrew L on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:47 | #

They are working on that at this very minute, Lunatick Villification law.


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Posted by farmer on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:55 | #

Re: gw’s comment

Rythmic intelligence is nothing to be scoffed at, as anyone who knows anything about music can attest to. Blacks also seem to have outstanding melodic and harmonic intelligence.

And the athletic superiority that allows blacks to dominate in so many sporting fields is nothing to b scoffed at either.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:19 | #

farmer,

Athletic superiority has no application to intellectual, cultural or social progress.  It has not prevented black Africa from being as it is.  The only reason some athletic blacks make money out of their genetic gifts is because white societies have developed the capital to reward such things.

Rhythmic intelligence is the lowest of the musical intelligences.  It is completely fatuous to claim that melodic and harmonic superiority resides with blacks.  Turn off pop music (which is black) and listen to Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner ...  and marvel at Mozart’s Jupiter for a display of ultimate harmonic intelligence.

Let me put the question to you the other way round.  What is the black population in any Western Society really contributing?


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:51 | #

Farmer,

Has Negro dominance of Basketball made the game better?

Before Blacks took over the game it was played by Whites in an entirely different way, teamwork, lots of passing, strategy, lay-ups and etc…

After the Black: dunks, fouls, heady-individualism (show-boating), elbowing, ball-hogging, and etc…

I prefer playing and watching non-negro Basketball, it is better game.


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Posted by WDman on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:47 | #

> Your examples are pretty thin

The fact that Africa was civilized before Europe is a “pretty thin” example? Oh really? More honest whites would beg to differ. Count de Volney, a Frenchman travelling in Egypt between 1783 and 1785, wrote “this race of blacks who nowadays are slaves and the objects of our scorn is the very one to which we owe our arts, our sciences, and even the use of spoken word.”

E. Torday, a member of the Council of the Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain, did not think that iron and steel are so trivial. With startling objectivity, he wrote “I feel convinced…that we are indebted to the Negro for the very keystone of our modern civilization and that we owe him the discovery of iron.”


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Posted by WDman on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:50 | #

> is that all you can connive?

You really want more? Okay…

Africa’s great civilisations made an immense contribution to the world, which are still marvelled at by people today. Ancient Egypt, which first developed over 5000 years ago, is one of the most notable of these civilisations and the first high civilisation anywhere in the world. However even before the rise of this civilisation, the earlier monarchy of Ta Seti was founded in Nubia, in what is today the Sudan. Egypt of the pharaohs is best known for its great monuments and feats of engineering (such as the Pyramids), but it also made great advances in many other fields too. The Egyptians produced early forms of paper and a written script. They developed the calendar too and made important contributions in various branches of mathematics, such as geometry and algebra, and it seems likely that they understood and perhaps invented the use of zero. They made important contributions in mechanics, philosophy, irrigation and architecture. In medicine, the Egyptians understood the body’s dependence on the brain over 1000 years before the Greek scholar Democritus. Historians now believe that ancient Egypt had an important influence on ancient Greece, and they point to the fact that Greek scholars such as Pythagoras and Archimedes studied in Egypt, and that the work of Aristotle and Plato was largely based on earlier scholarship in Egypt. For example, what is commonly known as Pythagoras’ theorem, was known to the ancient Egyptians hundreds of years before Pythagoras’ birth.


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Posted by WDman on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:54 | #

How Europe learned from Africa

Some of the world’s other great civilisations, such as Kush, Axum, Ghana, Mali, and Great Zimbabwe, also flourished in Africa and some major scientific advances were known in Africa long before they were known in Europe. Towards the middle of the 12th century, the north African scientist, Al Idrisi, wrote, “What results from the opinion of philosophers, learned men and those skilled in observation of the heavenly bodies, is that the world is as round as a sphere, of which the waters are adherent and maintained upon its surface by natural equilibrium.” Africans were certainly involved in trans-oceanic travel long before Europeans and there is some evidence to suggest that Africans crossed the Atlantic and reached the American continent, perhaps even north America, as early as 500 BC. In the 14th century, the Syrian writer, al-Umari, wrote about the voyage of the Emperor of Mali who crossed the Atlantic with 2000 ships but failed to return. Africans in east and south-eastern Africa also set up great civilisations that established important trading links with the kingdoms and empires of India and China long before Europeans had learned how to navigate the Atlantic ocean. When Europeans first sailed to Africa in the 15th century, African pilots and navigators shared with them their knowledge of trans-oceanic travel.

It was the great empires of West Africa, Ghana, Mali and Songhay, which provided the means for the economic take off of Europe in the 13th and 14th centuries and aroused the interest of Europeans in western Africa. An early historian in the 9th century wrote “the king of Ghana is a great king. In his territory are mines of gold.” When the famous historian of Muslim Spain, al-Bakri wrote about Ghana in the 11th century, he reported that its king “rules an enormous kingdom and has great power”. The king of Ghana was said to have an army of 200,000 men and to rule over an extremely wealthy trading empire. In the 14th century, the west African empire of Mali was larger than western Europe and reputed to be one of the largest, richest and most powerful states in the world. The Moroccan traveller Ibn Batuta wrote about his very favourable impressions of this empire and said that he found “complete and general safety” there.

When the famous emperor of Mali, Mansa Musa visited Cairo in 1324, it was said that he brought so much gold with him that its price fell dramatically and had not recovered its value even 12 years later.  The empire of Songhay was known, amongst other things, for the famous university of Sankore based in Timbuctu. Aristotle was studied at Sankore and also subjects such as law, various branches of philosophy, dialectic, grammar, rhetoric and astronomy. In the 16th century one of its most famous scholars, Ahmed Baba, is said to have written more than 40 major books on subjects such as astronomy, history and theology and he had his own private library that held over 1500 volumes. One of the first reports of Timbuctu to reach Europe was by Leo Africanus. In his book, published in 1550, he says of the town: “There you will find many judges, professors and devout men, all handsomely maintained by the king, who holds scholars in much honour. There too they sell many handwritten north African books, and more profit is to be made there from the sale of books than from any other branch of trade.”

African knowledge and that of the ancient world, was transmitted to Europe as a result of the North African or Moorish conquest of the Iberian peninsular in the 8th century. There were in fact several such conquests including two by the Berber dynasties in the 11th and 12th centuries. The Muslim invasion of Europe, and the founding of the state of Cordoba, re-introduced all the learning of the ancient world as well as the various contributions made by Islamic scholars and linked Europe much more closely with north and West Africa. Arabic numerals based on those used in India were introduced and they helped simplify mathematical calculations. Europe was also introduced to the learning of ancient world mainly through translations in Arabic of works in medicine, chemistry, astronomy, mathematics and philosophy. So important was the knowledge found in Muslim Spain, that one Christian monk - Adelard of Bath - disguised himself as a Muslim in order to study at the university at Cordoba. Many historians believe that it was this knowledge, brought to Europe through Muslim Spain, which not only created the conditions for the Renaissance but also for the eventual expansion of Europe overseas in the 15th century. eventual expansion of Europe overseas in the 15th century.


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Posted by WDman on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:57 | #

Before the devastation of the Transatlantic Slave Trade, important diplomatic and trading partnerships had developed between the rulers of European countries and those of Africa who saw each other as equals. Some of the earliest European visitors to Africa recognised that many African societies were as advanced or even more advanced than their own.

In the early 16th century, the Portuguese trader Duarte Barboosa said of the east African city Kilwa: “There were many fair houses of stone and mortar, well arranged in streets. Around it were streams and orchards with many channels of sweet water.” Of the inhabitants of Kilwa he reported, “They were finely clad in many rich garments of gold and silk, and cotton, and the women as well; also with much gold and silver in chains and bracelets, which they wore on their legs and arms, and many jewelled earrings in their ears.”

A Dutch traveller to the kingdom of Benin in the early 17th century sent home this report of the capital.

“It looks very big when you enter it for you go into a great broad street, which…seems to be seven or eight times broader than the Warmoes Street in Amsterdam. This street continues for about four miles and has no bend in it. At the gate where I went in on horseback, I saw a big wall, very thick and made of earth, with a deep ditch outside. Outside the gate there is a large suburb. Inside as you go along the main street, you can see other broad streets on either side, and these are also straight. The houses in this town stand in good order, one close to the other and evenly placed beside the next, like our houses in Holland.”

Africans and the African continent have made enormous contributions to human history just as other peoples and continents have. It is the development of Eurocentric and racist views in Europe that have denied this fact and sought to negate the history of Africa and its peoples.


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Posted by WDman on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:50 | #

Here is an article that some of you (Guessedworker, especially) may find interesting:

Black girls overtake white boys

“An ethnic breakdown of this year’s GCSE results in England shows that ‘black African’ girls are scoring higher grades than ‘white British’ boys.”

Got that? In spite of a hostile society and poor environment, the black female population still manages to outperform Anglo-Saxon males, who to you represents the pinnacle of civilization and human evolution! Not to mention that black performance continues to improve, while whites have pretty much topped out. If black females have overtaken white males, there’s no reason black males can’t do the same. Worrying, isn’t it?


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:54 | #

WDMan,

To bad the Africans didn’t invent a treatment for Malaria, it would have been a real garden of Eden.

Well, the same thing could be said for AIDS.


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Posted by Kubilai on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:05 | #

Your entire diatribe is full of Afrocentric fallacies that have been debunked.

Greek/Egypt

An excerpt:

Two classical scholars at Wellesley College have edited a collection of 20 articles, all attacking Martin Bernal’s controversial interpretation of classical culture, Black Athena (Vol. 1, LJ 12/87; Vol 2, Rutgers Univ. Pr. 1991). The authors, experts in a variety of disciplines, including archaeology and linguistics as well as history and classics, criticize Bernal’s two central contentions?that ancient Greek thought and culture derived largely from Egypt and that 19th-century scholars hid this fact for racist reasons. These arguments, claim Bernal’s critics, are based largely on bad scholarship and ideological agendas.

Egypt and Races

Exactly what is actually known about the race or races of the ancient Egyptians? Most Egyptologists would argue that the ancient Egyptians were an ethnic group of the Caucasian race. In so far as nationality, the land of kmt or Kemet (the ancient name of the country we now call Egypt, or “Misr” in Arabic or the biblical name “Mizraim”) in the Hamitic language means black. Scholars have debated the etymology of the word “Kemet” for years. Afrocentric-minded scholars argue that it translates as “the land of the blacks,” whereas eurocentric-minded scholars argue that it translates as “the black land.” The former would refer to the people (ostensibly a predominantly Negro population), and the latter would refer to the soil (black silt, originating from the Nile River during the seasonal inundation).

Blacks have been present in Egypt from very early times, if not from the beginning. It has even been suggested by some scholars that Egyptian civilization only arose because there were both whites and blacks present, the whites to provide the ruling class and the blacks to provide the slaves, without whom the rulers would not have had the leisure time necessary to create a civilization. Therefore it is only to be expected that blacks have been depicted in ancient Egyptian art. But this certainly does not in itself prove that Negroes were preponderant in Egypt. Afrocentrists point to various busts showing Negro types in Egypt, but a curious thing about these busts is that they nearly all date from a late period, the 25th dynasty (730 B.C.-633 B.C.), a degenerate era, when Egypt had the Negroid pharaoh Tahara on the throne.

The hot, dry sands of Egypt have preserved through more than 60 centuries the remains of countless multitudes of the earliest people known to have dwelt in the Nile Valley; and not the bones only, but also their skin and hair plus the muscles and organs of the body. Even such delicate tissues as the nerves and the brain and the lens of the eye are available for examination today. We are able to form a very precise idea of the structure of the body of the Proto-Egyptian (first Egyptians). For example the hair in almost all cases presented no resemblance whatever to the “woolly” appearance of Negro hair.

Of the remains exhumed of these first Egyptians, according to Earnest Sevier Cox, “not more than 2 percent showed definitely a Negro admixture, and possibly an additional 2 percent showed a suspicion of Negro blood.”

From the 18th dynasty (1580-1350 B.C.) to the 25th (663-525 B.C.) is a period of six centuries. They mark the decay of Egyptian civilization. During this period Egyptian initiative and ingenuity slowly declined. When a mulatto was received as king, religion had fallen from an ethical test for the life hereafter to a cult of animal worship. The early pharaohs built the pyramids and temples which stand today. The later pharaohs built nothing of significance; instead, they cut out the names of the early kings and inserted their names upon some of the greatest architectural achievements of the world. Art, science, and literature were dead.

This Negroid monarchy was the result of intermixture with a ruling class that was originally white. This miscegenation finally resulted in the extinction of Egyptian culture.

continued


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Posted by Kubilai on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:09 | #

It may be noted that a bust of a pharaoh created outside his own time cannot be relied upon as being an accurate representation. As an artistic convention, artists of the 25th dynasty would portray even kings of older times as black. For example, there are no images of Menes (Narmer), dating from his own time. (Menes, about 3100 B.C., was the first of the Egyptian pharaohs.) The 25th dynasty artists who attempted a rendition of Menes may not have had an inkling as to what he actually looked like. The nearest thing we have to a contemporary image of Menes is the Palette of Narmer, a famous artifact that has been dated to about 3000 B.C., and which was used for preparing cosmetics. Carvings of Menes appear on both sides of the object and clearly depict him as a white man.

Furthermore, Menes was only the first of a string of eight pharaohs in his dynasty, and no one, not even the afrocentrists, has claimed that the other seven, his descendants, were other than white men.


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Posted by Kubilai on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:34 | #

“An ethnic breakdown of this year’s GCSE results in England shows that ‘black African’ girls are scoring higher grades than ‘white British’ boys.”

Got that? In spite of a hostile society and poor environment, the black female population still manages to outperform Anglo-Saxon males, who to you represents the pinnacle of civilization and human evolution! Not to mention that black performance continues to improve, while whites have pretty much topped out. If black females have overtaken white males, there’s no reason black males can’t do the same. Worrying, isn’t it? - WDman

A short answer is yes AND no.

While I do not know the exact content and age of participants of the GCSE, the results do not surprise that much.  Two reasons spring to mind immediately.  One is that it is a verifiable fact that on average girls outperform boys during the junior, middle, and senior school levels except for the very end when boys get their proverbial sh*t together and begin to apply themselves all out in their educational endeavors.  I have not only seen that in my children, but in EVERY single family that we have known.  This is also documented in educational studies. 

Two, the Black Jamaican and African subculture has had a negative impact on British society.  I see it here as well.  When Whites cannot “flee” from the influence of Blacks, due to whatever reason but especially poverty, you see a negative influence on the White children in that begin to display the negative characteristics of Blacks especially if there is a significant proportion of Blacks in the neighborhood or schools.  It does not a genius to realize that it is this effect that has hampered the White boys due to they wanting to “fit in” and “be cool”. 

What is more indicative is the White girls outperform Black girls and White boys outperform Black boys, who do abysmally poor.  That is the real kernal of gold in this exam.  Also, it surprises me how you swallow the BBC anti-racist pabulum whole without even attempting to delve a little deeper to see what exactly the results mean.  To me they mean…

1) Boys and girls are behaving naturally towards education for their level of maturity

2) Whites are negatively affected by Blacks in their society.

3) Without knowing all the details about this exam, it is easy for the communist BBC to twist it in favour of their egalitarian, race repalcement ideals.

So to answer your question again, yes it is worrying but not for the reasons you were hoping for.  It is worrying because it is a clear indication to DEPORT all negative, anti-White influences from European derived nations.  smile


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Posted by friedrich braun on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:58 | #

Thanks for spamming us with old Afrocentric fantasies. They’re always a good source of merriment. 

Reality check:

The Great Achievements of the Negro Race

http://www.faem.com/books/mf.htm


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Posted by GayLikeAFox on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:07 | #

Kubilai,

They had some excellent analyses of this British data over at GNXP some time ago.  I don’t have the time right now to look it up (so much cleaning to do…) but I remember the main point was that the blacks in Britain were disproportionately the children of African PHDS—and they did far worse than the children of either white or Asian PHDs.  The study, if you look past the surface, actually provides some good evidence that the children of highly intelligent Africans, whites, and Asians regress to a different mean level of intelligence…  but good luck prying that out of the BBC!


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Posted by Kubilai on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:08 | #

Friedrich, that sure was a “quick read”. LOL


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Posted by Kubilai on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:12 | #

Thanks for the info, Gay.  I knew there was more to it than what the BBC’s eructations led the simple-minded to believe.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:32 | #

Kub,

The British pre-university exam system is in a state of near-collapse.  Right now, Oxbridge is in discussion with, I think, 17 leading independent (private) schools to try to develop a meaningful replacement qualification whereby student quality can properly be assessed.

A sizeable portion of the independent sector has already switched to the International Baccalaureate.  Those who can are voting with their feet.

Even the government looked for a while as though it would scrap the current exam system.  Mike Tomlinson’s recommendations, arising from a two-year enquiry, had the support of the government’s senior qualifications adviser, the head of Ofsted, the teacher and head teacher associations, most university leaders, and employers’ organisations.  But before the May 5th General Election the whole thing was quietly kicked into the long grass.  Political reality for the marxian left runs counter to a potentially divisive exam system.

So, we are back to square one, with a worthless system infected throughout by political correctness.  Billions have been spent on AA initiatives such as Excellence In Cities, and now we have Access Regulation to make sure that “inner city kids” get university places ahead of middle-class English kids.  It is a socialist scam.

For example, to weight results away from the intellectually able forty percent of final marks are awarded for course work, which is generally recognised to be an invitation to students to cheat.  Coursework is also recognised as especially disadvantageous to boys, btw - of any race.

As for WDMan, who as well as being black obviously isn’t British, he should stick to something of which he has first hand experience.  Let him explain the African average IQ of 70 (for males and females).  Let him explain cranial capacity.  For African average IQ to be the same as ours the black cerebellum would have to be specially dense in some magical way or filled with more grey matter and correspondingly less white.  Ain’t so, though.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:42 | #

Mark,

The PHD theory is probably losing traction as race replacement speeds up.  Life in London is now gilded by African traditional religion masquerading as Christianity.  Not too many PHDs among the witch-doctors and their superstitious congregations, I would think.  With a bit of luck when their children reach exam age they will already be back home!


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Posted by Kubilai on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:01 | #

From GNXP (boo-hiss, smile ), per Gay…

W = White (n1)
W/BC = Mixed White and Black Caribbean
W/BA = Mixed White and Black African
W/A = Mixed White and Asian
A = Asian (n2)
I = Indian
P = Pakistani
Ba = Bangladeshi
Bl = Black (n3)
BC = Black Caribbean
BA = Black African
C = Chinese (n4)
All = average for all children

n3: ’Black’ includes Black African, Black Caribbean, and ’Black Other’. ’Black Other’ may include some mixed-race children, but those who are known to have a White parent should be counted under W/BC or W/BA.


KEY STAGE 1*

____________Boys_______Girls_______All
W___________82.7_______90.0_______86.3
W/BC________78.3_______88.3_______83.3
W/BA________81.0_______88.3_______84.0
W/A_________85.0_______92.7_______88.7
A___________78.7_______85.3_______81.7
I____________86.0_______92.0_______89.0
P___________74.3_______81.3_______77.7
Ba__________74.0_______82.0_______77.7
Bl___________74.0_______83.7_______79.0
BC__________76.0_______85.3_______80.3
BA__________72.3_______82.3_______78.3
C___________89.0_______93.3_______91.0
All__________82.0________85.7_______85.7

GNXP/GCSE Results

Also:  Two limitations of coverage should be noted. First, the data cover only children in state-funded schools. About 6% of children in England attend private (independent) schools and are therefore not included. These are mainly children of parents with high income. The data are therefore probably somewhat depleted in the higher levels of children’s ability. It is possible that this affects different ethnic groups to different extents. It might be supposed that private education would be disproportionately ’white’, but this cannot safely be assumed. Black and Asian middle-class parents are keen on private education, especially as it is often the only way of getting good discipline and/or single-sex schooling.

The second limitation of coverage is that the A-level data only relate to those children who stay in school to take A-levels. They exclude those who do not take A-levels at all, and those who leave school but take A-levels in post-16 colleges. This may introduce some distortion with respect to ethnic groups.

It is clear from a cursory look at the data even though the intricate details are not available (i.e. standard deviations, range of scores, geographic results, and much, much more) that White girls and boys do better than most and are only behind Chinese and Indians, though we will hold off commenting on the results of the mixed race results.  Chinese are the highest, no surprise.  Indians are second, no surprise to me because that has been my own experience in dealing with the super-selected cohorts that are the “high IQ” immigrants and “super aggressive” immigrants that come from these countries.  The Black girl scores are the issue that WDman has decided to pin his hopes on.  The Black African girls score lower and the Black Caribbean are higher by a bit.  For the BBC to make this claim, to me is nearly criminal.  For WDman to repeat in typical, non-analytical, afrocentric fashion is ludicrous.  While my points above still stand, namely that there is a difference amongst boys and girls in educational success during the developmental years and Whites having been negatively affected by Black subculture, I officially change my answer to WDman’s question to NO.  I am not worried.


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Posted by Kubilai on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:05 | #

GW, thank you for the GCSE clarification and while you, I, and the rest of the regulars at MR understand these things.  It is still very entertaining to “hammer the homies” when the opportunity arises.  If you know what I mean? wink


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Posted by Kubilai on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:17 | #

One last point.  Genetic testing is moving at quite a nice pace and it will be only a matter of time before they start doing widespread testing on the ancient Egyptians and other races of Northern Africa.  I fear that the results will completely rock the Liberal and Afrocentrist world.  I almost pity them…almost is the key word here.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:52 | #

WDman mixes up North Africans, who are white (not European-type whites but a form of white nevertheless), with Negroes.  The historic North African civilizations—Ancient Egypt, Carthage, the Moors who occupied Spain—were the product of the various North African branches of the Mediterranean Caucasian race.  One of the ways WDman confuses things is by using the word “African” as if it always means “Negro.”  It doesn’t.  Some Africans are white:  aside from the North African case, there’s the civilization in Southern Africa (Rhodesia and the Union of South Africa) which was created by combined English and Dutch populations over three centuries (and is now coming to an end since the advent of Negro rule—going down the tubes would be a better way to put it:  Negroes can’t sustain it). 

The other thing is, whites are entitled to oppose their own race-replacement no matter the level of intelligence of the race deliberately brought in by the usual suspects to replace them.  If Negroes had higher IQs than white-Euros we’d still not wish to be changed into Negroes—sorry, but we like being whites too much.  One of the races deliberately being brought in by the usual suspects to replace whites in the U.K., the U.S., Canada, and Australia are the Chinese, who are smarter than whites.  Overwhelming majorities of whites oppose getting forcibly race-replaced whether by Negroes who have lower IQ or Chinamen who have higher. 

Whites claim the sacred, inalienable right to continue racially intact into the future, unchanged into half-Negroes, half-Chinamen, half-Mexicans, and so forth.  Furthermore, the European subdivisions of the white race claim the same right in regard to other subdivisions of the white race:  white Europeans have a right not to be changed from what they’ve always been to half-North-Africans for example. 

This forced race-replacement/race-mixing is being perpetrated on no race in the world but white-Euros.  Why is it OK to do to them—and not only do it but have the nerve to call them names like “racist” if they dare to question it?  That’s crap and we’re going to put an end to it then reverse the damage already done through humane repatriations, till the racial status quo ante be restored.

Count on it.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:32 | #

No doubt most readers have seen this facial reconstruction of the young Pharoah Tutankhamun, distributed by Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities ...


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:24 | #

In a comment I posted in <u>this comments thread</u> (5/16, 6:05 am; the 7th comment down) (commenting on <u>this</u> Dienekes log entry) I included links to additional views of the pharaoh’s reconstruction.  It’s clear these representations don’t suggest someone of the Negro race but instead are compatible with the North-African sub-branch of the Mediterranean branch of the white (Caucasian) race—which is how the Ancient Egyptians were always been viewed prior to the recent politically-motivated claim they were Negroes.  (The Greek-Egyptian dynasty Cleopatra was a member of are thought to have been more European-looking, since they were not Egyptian but Greek.)


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Posted by friedrich braun on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:15 | #

Dumbo should tell us why African Negroes, in light of their historic “achievements”,  have an IQ of about 70 (equvalent of European retardation) and some African countries (for e.g., Ghana) score below 60 (!). Lynn and Vanhanen in IQ and the Wealth of Nations tell us that it’s probable that nations need to have an IQ of at least 90 to adopt western technology (as Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Tawain, etc. all did). In other words, not even a massive technology transfer will help the stupid, lazy, and criminal Negroes—because the human capital in Africa to use the said technology is lacking.

Africa is hopeless. It’s just a rat hole.


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Posted by friedrich braun on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:57 | #

A voice of sanity:

Gadhafi tells Africans to stop begging Europeans for food and money.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050704/ap_on_re_af/libya_african_summit


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Posted by Phil on Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:45 | #

Gadhafi

Friedrich,

We know something is terribly wrong with our world when Kadafi is the only politician talking sense. LOL


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Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:46 | #

Somebody else gets ‘it’, well almost anyway:


Matthew Parris
GOD SPARE AFRICA from mercy. God deliver Africa from The Guardian. God protect Africa from the Synod of the Church of England. God send Africa a little less of our charity and understanding, and a little more of our anger and disdain.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1065-1677350_1,00.html



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