Never a truer word

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 02 May 2006 12:46.

Thanks to R Berkeley for this link to a Pravda article by Stojgniev O’Donnell. Not unnaturally, the author’s standpoint is in some ways Russia-centric. But the opening paragraph certainly caught my attention. Here are a few highlights:-

Russian Christians now admit that the concept of human rights and liberties as advocated by America and the West has no application in contemporary Russia . That country is drowning in vices directly linked to the West’s concept of inherent rights and liberties: abortion; homosexuality; dissolution of traditional marriage; pornography; slavery, prostitution, and exploitation of the oppressed, etc. The Russian Orthodox now understand that such American “values” are, in fact, vices which harm every human society as a collective. Such American “rights” have not brought happiness. They represent the deviance of the cult of the individual. From my Third World perspective, I am amazed that some Americans continue to argue that America’s virtue is that it protects such “rights” (=vices).

... We are now witnessing the demise of America. For decades, America successfully marketed its “values” throughout the world (accompanied often by hefty cash subsidies for corrupt, subservient regimes). The aims of the American ideology were no less ambitious than those of Soviet communism, and the Americans were victorious over the Soviets, for a couple of years anyway.

... America is dying. I assure those Americans who still feel secure about a regular pay check, their job perks, vacations, company cars and cell phones, annual bonuses, benefits, government entitlements, U.S. dollar-based investments and accounts, etc etc., that their lifestyle is crumbling. There is no longer any right or logic in America’s prosperity.

... The American Middle Class has outlived its period of historical relevance and soon will be replaced, by Hispanics, India’s Indians, and Chinese. Those groups have no qualms about bearing and rearing children.

It is the twenty-first century. America is rat-infested history. America will fall, overrun by fatwah-inspired Muslims; wild, dispossessed, self-identified Apache or Aztec guerillas; looting, reparations-deluded African-Americans; indignant Eskimos; flaming cross-dressers and advocates of every sort of politically correct nonsense. History doesn’t last forever, and anyway, America had a couple of good centuries before it turned to cr*p.

Tags: Political analysis

Comments:

Posted by John Ray on Tue, 02 May 2006 13:17 | #

Who would have thought that David would one day be quoting Pravda?

Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 02 May 2006 14:59 | #

The author is describing the reality in America. It didn’t have to happen. It was not inevitable. But here we are.

Now, what do we do?

I say,

1) abandon universalitic Rights dogma

2) establish a nation whose identity is based upon race

3) a nation with a strong understanding of in-group/out-group distinction.

Internally, we can debate economics, religion, and trade. But these two principles must be held firm.

Now, lest Russians and Europeans become too smug,

Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 02 May 2006 15:00 | #

Now, lest Russians and Europeans become too smug, ... we are all in the same boat.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 02 May 2006 15:47 | #

John: Who would have thought that David would one day be quoting Pravda?

Indeed. The changes we have seen in our lifetimes are quite staggering. But as Stojgniev O’Donnell observes, there are powerful similarities between the political systems of the Soviet Union and America. They are/were both expressions of liberalism, and both endeavouring to free Man from Nature and tradition and into his own hands.

Furthermore, as O’Donnell asserts, Marxism-Leninism was a Jewish-influenced system. But advanced liberalism, being culturally Marxist, is also Jewish-influenced. That which belongs to Western Man - that sacred totality which is comprised of his nature, his faith, his culture, his heritage and his birthright to his own homelands - is disregarded as absolutely by advanced liberalism as ever it was by Marxism-Leninism.

The totalitarianism is soft today, but it is no less real. The fact that we will be allowed to die in our beds rather than in a salt mine does not change that very much. We will go not just, to quote Shakespeare, “Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything” but sans culture, sans identity, sans home, which really is everything.

Unless, of course, we can get rid of liberalism first.

Posted by Desmond jones on Tue, 02 May 2006 19:02 | #

This would also be true if Slavs attempted to adopt the framework of limited government of American Anglo/Celts prior to 1861 and even without decades of Marxist bureaucratic rule. Russians evolved a culture with tendencies toward government centralization if only to survive invading Mongol hordes.

America may decline, however, to project that decline based on a Slavic cultural/genetic rejection of transplanted western values is weak at best. Russian per capita murder rates are higher than black Americans. Chinese immigration is a greater threat to Russia’s eastern territories than Hispanic immigration to the US based on IQ alone. Russian abortion rates rival black American rates.

Even if liberalism were to disappear tomorrow, the fact still remains that Slavs have not evolved a culture that is compatible with limited government.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 02 May 2006 21:16 | #

> the fact still remains that Slavs have not evolved a culture that is compatible with limited government.

That’s interesting, seems true for Russia, to some degree under the Tsars before 1917 and certainly after 1917.

Of course life under the Tsars was more fuedal in orientation, so it doesn’t quite match up with with modern Europe.

Also, most Slavic peoples were under Ottoman rule for centuries, so considering those facts can we speculate that much about the Slavs?

It seems short sided to cast them off like that.

Posted by Geoff Beck on Tue, 02 May 2006 23:42 | #

> Geoff, if you can make these generalisations about the Jews, you can make them about Slavs, too.

I didn’t argue with Desmond’s position, he’s right. The Slavs haven’t developed a limited gov’t society. But I think there are are good reasons - besides parasitism - to explain it.

Posted by Matra on Wed, 03 May 2006 01:01 | #

the fact still remains that Slavs have not evolved a culture that is compatible with limited government.

The Czechs? Liberalism seems more present in their history than any other Slav nation. They’ve been under non-Slavic foreign rule for much of their history and unlike any other Slavic group I’m aware of have had a significant Protestant community. Today they and the Slovaks have more laissez faire policies than most other European countries. There are only 10 million Czechs so they are a very small minority within the Slavic world.

Posted by Top on Fri, 05 May 2006 05:35 | #

Let’s keep in mind that it is Western Europeans who are leading the way towards race replacement of themselves in the world. Whatever faults the Slavs may have - and just like everyone else they have many - they are not the leading players in the race raplacement evil game. I can only see this variable right now and no other. Forgive me for being blind, but if my house is on fire then I want to put the fire out before worrying about the foundations or how leak-proof the roof is. It is West europeans who are setting the house on fire. This truth needs to be acknowledged before any progress can be made. Heck, in genetic terms Africa is doing WAY better than the western Europeans - let’s forget the slvas. Would anyone like to dispute that? Is this not the one forum where this truth can be acknowledged?

Posted by Desmond Jones on Fri, 05 May 2006 07:28 | #

Let’s also keep in mind that Eastern Europeans are one of the many benefactors of this Western European race replacement bonanza (Adam, Hoss & Little Joe ). It is also worth considering that high levels of Eastern European immigration is not all that beneficial. In fact some of it can be downright nasty.

It’s just a bit rich to see the author blame all of Russia’s woes on the evil Anglo-Americans. They must also be at fault for the ethnic Russian’s loss of faith, drunkeness, ill-habits, violence, suicide, traffic accidents, and short life span. Thankfully there are still some real Russians about who know what the problems are and are turning to traditional Russian solutions it would appear.

Russia for Russians, Germany for the Germans, France for the French, England for the English…etc…etc…etc.

Posted by Top on Sat, 06 May 2006 22:41 | #

Desmond, I disagree with both your points. While some East Europeans may benefit by Western European race replacement by having more options to live, the cons far outwrigh the pros in this case. Eastern Europe has a shrinking population with muslim and far east population masses just waiting take over through accelarated population transfers. The only defence against this onslaught is a healthy dose of racial prejudice. And who will pose the greatest danger to East Europenas when they adopt this stance? Who will be there to intervene and restore ‘human rights’? Who will be there impose sanctions, inject anti-slavic organizations, finance their enemies, and nuclearly blackmail them? Whose foreign minister said there is no place for ethnically pure states?? Whose organizations right now - ex. Soros - is spreading some of the biggest filth on earth in Eastern Europe? Think about it. The heavily-influenced-by-jews US is the greatest present danger to East Europeans because it will not allow them to adopt any healthy defences to their problems - which they have many, no one is disputing that.

As for the article - from reading the whole thing I cannot see how or where the author is blaming the West for Russia’s problems. All he is saying is that the cultural and political positions the West has adopted are not right for Russia - and by extension for anyone else. The author is critizing western politics and culture, he is not ‘blaming’ anyone. The article is probably written by a west european who like many others is so disgusted by the current state of affairs that he is venting from a land far away. I think what he saying in the article is pretty much the same thing that any sane patriot would say. But alas these are not sane times in the West….