Strange Occurrence in Germany

Posted by Guest Blogger on Friday, 21 December 2007 23:55.

I thought this was a joke at first, but apparently a German man really has attacked an American tourist after shouting ‘Heil Hitler’ and giving the Nazi salute.

This isn’t interesting as an act in itself (especially as the man has since given himself up), but it’s interesting how much I found is illegal in Germany. Turns out not only is assaulting people illegal (like you’d expect), but also the Hitler Salute is illegal, saying ‘Heil Hitler’ is illegal, and a whole lot of other things, including the celtic cross, are ‘punishable’. Not really the acts of a government confident that its citizens are so happy under it that they’d never consider a return to National Socialism. Is it possible that the German government is worried that the people will turn on it as the EU continues to grow? Should be fun to watch, and if I ever find out what happens to the ‘not-a-neo-nazi-really’ assailant, I’ll flag it here.

Bis später.

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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:59 | #

He’ll be prosecuted for a hate crime, I guess.

I wrote quite a while ago about the corrosive effect of the German post-war moral settlement here (the passage is in the middle of the piece). I was talking about the effect on British political values, not German. But if nationalist feeling was slowly killed here, it was quite literally Ground Zero for the German political soul.

There is a perfectly defensible view that the reinstatement of national feeling in German politics - a prequisite for which is the moral rehabilitation of Hitler and a “reassessment” of the Holocaust narrative - is itself the prerequisite for a European deliverance from Judeo-American neoliberal values and the crisis of race replacement.

Cue wintermute. And Friedrich.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:38 | #

“a ‘reassessment’ of the Holocaust narrative” (—GW)

In a sense, the definition of truth is permitting expression of both of an issue’s sides, following which the “experts” and “reasonable people” take sides and a hierarchy of “who believes what” establishes itself, the (supposedly) smartest at the top, the others falling in line underneath, influenced by what they see those they look up to doing. That’s functionally how “truth” works. The problem as regards the Jewish issues of our day (race; excessive incompatible immigration and forced race-replacement of whites; the German National Socialists; the ©Holocau$t®; World War II) is functional truth isn’t allowed to work: aggressive, brutal, vigilant enforcers see to it that only one side is permitted expression, so truth can’t come out, or, put another way, there is no truth at present, or the truth isn’t known or knowable. The truth on the ©Holocau$t® for example, is currently not known or knowable. It will be known once both sides are permitted expression, something Jewish enforcers won’t allow, as things now stand. How do they prevent it? We’re talking here about mainstream public expression, and the Jews control access to mainstream public expression in society. Exactly how they got control and keep it are other questions, but they did and do. The internet gets around this, but directly reaches only a particular restricted layer of the population (let’s hope it proves an influential layer), and of course in many countries the Jews have managed, by means of their “hate-speech” punishments, to muzzle the truth process over the internet.

Posted by A Casual Observer on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:13 | #

I think a sound, and popular, case can be made for the reinstatement of national feeling without mentioning Hitler and the Nazis at all. Germans have much to be proud of in their history, and historians have simply used Hitler and the Nazis as an excuse to launch an attack upon the whole of German history. Quite the opposite of what your saying, the prerequisite for the rebuilding of national feeling is for Germans to take back their history, beginning not with the Nazi-period, but the hundreds of years before it. Only then will the process of historical re-evaluation of the Nazi period become acceptable. German patriots must take the indirect approach. Sure, it might take a bit longer, but it’s easier to attack the least controversial elements of history first and gradually move up from there.

I personally believe that Nazism was a German historical aberration and that it is nonsensical to use it as a means to attack all German history.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:07 | #

I can certainly concede your point that the flaw in this argument is that Hitler and the Reich are NOT representations of nationalism in all other countries and ages. It is a preposterous conflation that we are justified in doing all in our power to wreck.

I write about the alternative to the “German Heavy Model” here.

Posted by Friedrich Braun on Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:37 | #

It’s always fun to watch foreigners historically hostile to German interests speculating about what today’s Germans should or shouldn’t do, thanks Casual Observer. Germans will figure that out all by themselves without your yellow advice.

What does it mean to be a National Socialist? It just means to be a good German, nothing less and nothing more.

Posted by Balder on Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:03 | #

Perhaps the incident was staged by a provocateur?

They are in dire need of some genuine nazi / skinhead / far right extremists attacks in Germany since the latest news on high profile cases which were shown to be a hoax.

The German Verfassungsschutz [secret police] has been known to engage in false flag activities against the nationalist NPD.

Der Spiegel 19 december 2007 - Police Doubt Girl’s Claim of Neo-Nazi Attack

This story has been front page news in numerous European countries, and of course they will not bother to tell that it was all a hoax…