Posted by skeptical on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:53 | #

James,

Are you being serious?

The Republicans lack the requisite foresight and political will necessary to pass legislation like that.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:01 | #

Skeptical, it is obvious to the most casual observer that:

1) The American Enterprise Institute is a GOP “insider”, and

2) The GOP faces imminent disaster without something like this AEI proposal.

Facing imminent death does, on occassion, clarify thinking.  It is not ridiculous to suppose this might be such an occasion.

Posted by Concerned white on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:19 | #

McAmnesty and the Republican party want White genocide.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:35 | #

Concerned, I don’t think they want White genocide any more than this cricket “wants” to commit suicide.

Fortunately for us, the GOP’s parasites are not nearly as highly adapted as is the cricket’s parasite.  There really is the prospect of a deathbed awakening.

Posted by Captainchaos on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:50 | #

The destruction of the Republican party would be a positive developement.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:08 | #

As would be the destruction of the Democratic party via the destruction of public sector rent-seeking, but I think if McCain had a “mandate” due to a Republican landslide that destroyed the Democrats via destruction of public sector rent-seeking, he would do a marvelous job of destroying the Republican Party as well.

Posted by zuwr on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:14 | #

Thomas Peterffy suggests mass payments to all homeowners.  He calls it “progressive”, which is assuming since it doesn’t mention renters. 

Fix the Bailout to Help Homeowners - An Open Letter from Thomas Peterffy, Chief Executive Officer, Interactive Brokers Group

The following Open Letter appeared in Friday’s editions of the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post.

Even those political leaders that support the current bailout proposal don’t like it very much. The American people like it less. It creates a complicated bureaucracy, does not directly help homeowners and does not address the foreclosure crisis.

Amend the bill to allow the Treasury to provide direct mortgage assistance to all American homeowners.

If the Treasury were to pay the first $250 of every American’s primary residential mortgage each month for five years, the value of all mortgage-backed securities would rise immediately. The housing market would stabilize and the banking system with it.

The $250 monthly payment would be made to all homeowners who pay the rest of their monthly mortgage bill. It would help families and create a strong incentive for them to pay their mortgages.

Those homeowners behind in their payments could be given a window of time to bring their payments up to date and receive the subsidy retroactively for a specific number of months.

The program could be extended to current and future buyers with a declining subsidy as we go forward and further stabilize real estate markets.

The monthly subsidy would act as an economic stimulus, helping us to avoid a protracted recession and eliminating the need for a separate stimulus package. The cost would be manageable. There are roughly 40 million mortgages, accordingly the cost of this package would be about $10 billion per month. This is a reasonable expense to bear considering that through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (and AIG and Bear Stearns) American taxpayers are already on the hook for hundreds of billions or more if mortgage defaults continue to accelerate.

  * This proposal would give immediate and direct help to those who need it most: American homeowners. Wall Street would benefit indirectly.
  * It would be easy to administer. Mortgage servicers would receive the payment from the Treasury after receiving the remainder of the monthly mortgage bill from the homeowner. As a result, banks would receive almost the same amount of money as if the mortgage crisis never happened.
  * It is progressive. For those with modest homes, the $250 monthly Treasury payment would cover a much greater proportion of their mortgage than for those with expensive homes.
  * It would be easy to oversee: There will be little place for lobbying or political pressure since government officials will not be required to value particular securities or strike individual deals with banks to buy their distressed assets. When mortgages and housing are stabilized by the program, market forces will determine the values of mortgage-based assets.

The program outlined above is simple, achievable and equitable to all Americans. It puts families and homeowners first, solving the problem from the bottom up rather than the top down.
Interactive Brokers
The Professional’s Gateway to the World’s Markets
Thomas Peterffy,
Chief Executive Officer

http://newsticker.welt.de/index.php?channel=fin&module=smarthouse&id=788778

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:35 | #

Peterffy is just proposing the extension of the public-sector rent-seeking game.  The way to eliminate it is to treat citizens as stockholders in a land trust with the US government as trustee required to pay out dividends periodically to all shareholders—not just those favored by the trustees.

Posted by Rusty on Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:49 | #

To dark, fiery with the Republican and the Democrat parties, lovers of Judaism and active destroyers of my country and my nation.

Posted by Rusty on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:11 | #

To Hell, I say!!!

Posted by Stopped Clock on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:18 | #

$2 trillion a year?  I havent read his book, but wouldnt that be a MAJOR expansion of our welfare system?

Posted by GT on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:35 | #

Ironic, James, that you advance this idea on the very day the Judeo-Zionist GOP has backstabbed its red state supporters for the benefit of Blue State schnozzensteins, in full public view and in the face of white hot opposition by those same supporters.

The Republican Party must be destroyed - not by the Democrats, but by us.

Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:23 | #

GT, who was it that said:

Vote for McCain!  Yes, I’m serious.  Vote for McCain!  No, not because he’s “white.” Vote for him because he’s our best chance of destroying the Republican Party and inserting ourselves in its place.

And while you’re at it, exactly what was the Republican to Democrat ratio House vote?

Posted by Maguire on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:08 | #

James,

In the event it was unnecessary to elect John McCain as President to enable him to destroy the GOP.  He’s already accomplished that just as the nominee.  Now we’ll speak hypothetically here and ignore the fact that McCain is just another Judeo Manchurian candidate.

Last week John McCain was presented the opportunity to become a truly national leader and stride into the White House as the People’s Tribune to hails of “Imperator”.  All he had to do was oppose the organized Judeo theft called “Bailout” as written and present an alternative plan that benefitted Middle America rather than lower Manhattan, the City of London and Jerusalem.  Instead he helped facilitate the betrayal, joined forces with Goldman Sachs’ field hand Barack Obama and returned to the Senate.  He then voted for a bill loaded down with the “earmarks” he said he’d oppose as President.

Result?  This week Obama is topping 50% in the polls.  That hasn’t happened for a Democratic nominee since before Reagan’s time.

“Bailout” was just the cherry on top of the sundae.  You cannot present the results the “Republicans” have delivered (slowly losing wars, energy, economy, endless backstab of sheeple base) and not expect to pay a price in support.

The GOP is going to be electorally exterminated in one month’s time and there is no longer anything anyone can do about it.  It would take an entire generation to rehabilitate that brand name, meaning enough people have to die and be replaced with younger people who don’t remember the “Republicanism” of the 1990s-2008.

I do not here defend the “Democratic Party”.  This is an openly Jewish Party with an alliance of alien non-whites and deviants of all kinds united in the goal of genociding the white race.  It has no connection with America, Americans or white American thought and history.

The “GOP” has an even more fundamental problem.  To the limited extent it has an ideology, that ideology (called by GW’s beloved name of “Conservatism”) itself is an alien transplant lacking any roots in North American soil.  This is the “Conservatism” of Double Agent Buckley.  The intellectual demi-god he and Russell Kirk promoted was the (in North America) extremely obscurantist figure of 18th Century Middle Temple lawyer Edmund Burke.

The rational observer looks at what the modern “Democratic Party” really consists of and represents and wonders how it’s possible that it isn’t crushed in a week’s time, and with lots of breaks and early quitting times during that week.

The reason is the equally alien nature of the modern GOP. 

Let the GOP die.  It has to be replaced with a genuinely pro-American party that speaks in the voices of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.  As intellectuals, soldiers, statesmen and men they are giants.  Compared to them and especially compared to them for Americans Burke was a dwarf among pygmies.   

M

Posted by Desmond Jones on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:33 | #

Ron Paul in the House Financial Services Committee, September 10, 2003

Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.

Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:16 | #

Do you have a link for that Ron Paul statement, Desmond?

Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:10 | #

Maguire, thanks responding on behalf of GT.  I surmise your relationship is as mentor and protégé so I’ll accept your answer as his. 

My concern is that the Democratic Party is far more formidable than you believe it to be.  At present, the military itself is compromised, and while the US military has shown itself to be dysfunctional as a military, it seems to me that the Democrats will be able to expand the “national service” to forcibly extract virtually all young men from their communities and make them dependent on the Federal Government while removing their rights.  This at the same time that they make the rest of the society utterly dependent on political favoritism for subsistence. 

A citizens’ dividend prevents that while letting people relocate to rural areas.

The reason I brought up the Republican to Democrat ratio in the House vote on the bailout is that it is clear that the House remained more or less responsive to its base.  With some notable exceptions, the Democrats voted for the bailout and the Republicans voted against.  A Republican base enabled by a citizens dividend to move to rural areas and build subsistence networks—allowing enough independence to participate at the precinct level—would quickly dispense with the traitors who would, in any case, self-destruct with hubris.

Posted by Maguire on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:21 | #

James,

Here’s the House bailout vote on Monday:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

And here’s the House bailout vote on Friday:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml

You can check my math, but I make it as 45% of GOPers voting for the Judeo-Goldman Sachs tribute on Friday.  This was up from 32% of GOPers in favor on Monday.  There is nothing to build on in that mass of confusion and divided counsel.  And that was the entire point of the Monday Moment:  keep the waters muddied and prevent the sheeple from having any clear political choices.

For me personally there was only one significant development in all this media theater.  Permanent GOP House Minority Leader John Bohner has finally confessed the GOP really is what I’ve thought it was for most of my life.  This is a collection of professional coprophasiacs (the clinical name for feces eaters).  He told his conference the bailout bill was a “crap sandwich” before twisting their arms to eat it.  The percentage of Republican coprophasiacs in the Senate was far higher.

“they make the rest of the society utterly dependent on political favoritism for subsistence.”

I think we now have to discuss the percentage of coprophasiacs in the Geezers’ Old Party that are already partly or utterly dependent on social security and medicare for subsistence.  It’s well known the GOP is lacking for youth, even white youth.  What young white people need is a maximum reduction of external burdens.  The only interest of the aged coprophasiacs’ party is to increase them any way they can.

“enabled by a citizens dividend to move to rural areas and build subsistence networks”.

A goal we are in agreement on, I think.  A savage deflation and falling land prices is just as good as a “dividend” of more rotten paper in that context.  I’ll point out the obvious (to me).  A pioneer effort of this nature cannot be burdened with the economic dead weight of masses of candidates for admission to geriatric care facilities.  Especially when they have the ridiculuous ideas that their rotten paper and ephemeral “vote” somehow makes them entitled to more.  This is where the “Orania” project in South Africa failed.

I want to build something for my kids’ future.  I’m not interested in building cemetaries and nursing homes for the coprophasiacs whose genetic and moral weaknesses have produced the current state of affairs.

M

Posted by Maguire on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:18 | #

James,

“thanks responding on behalf of GT.  I surmise your relationship is as mentor and protégé so I’ll accept your answer as his.” 

Our relationship is nowhere near as unilateral as that sounds.  He has his own thoughts and genuine professional talents.  We don’t agree on everything.  We just see eye to eye on a lot of things.

M

Posted by GT on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:21 | #

James,

The Republican Party can’t be rehabilitated in the time left to us.  It must be destroyed.  I support one more Republican presidency because a McCain administration would allow us to accomplish that goal – not because “worse is better,” as some here seem to believe.

An Obama presidency is worse, but for reasons the Great White Internet Non-Movement has failed to grasp.  Summed up, for I haven’t time to spell it out again, an Obama presidency will result in White political paralysis – not immediately – four to eight years from now.

Obama is to White Nationalism what Oklahoma City was to the Patriotard Movement in the 1990s.

Posted by Maguire on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:27 | #

“Ron Paul in the House Financial Services Committee, September 10, 2003…”

Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul….?

Oh yeah.  I remember now.  He was that Republican from Texas that played at Republican-Libertarian primary politics for a little bit, collected campaign money under false pretenses, didn’t go the distance as a leader and then hired one or more Zionist Israeli Jews to his staff afterward ending his presidential campaign to help spend the money.

Soon enough entire moldy chapters of Edmund Burke, Friedrich Hayek and Ludwig von Mises will be cut ’ n pasted in this thread as a substitute for thought.  For North America that stuff is insidious spam.  It’s far worse than the nude negro cow pic that was first posted and then removed.

This is a classic illustration of what I mean about speaking in the American voices of Washington, Jefferson and Jackson.  You not only have to explain clearly what happened, but what to do, and do so in a way that leaves the hearer fired with suitable emotions and faith in their cause and their ability to win.

Thomas Jefferson:

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Andrew Jackson:

“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time, and I am
convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs
of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you
lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from
the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may
be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will
ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers
and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you
out.”

These two are chock full of relevant quotes.  And no wonder.  Their experience was American and they wrote from the head and heart as Americans, not as obscure Middle Temple British lawyers or Austrian Jew academics.

It might be that Edmund Burke is still relevant to what’s left of the British Isles.  I can’t say about that.  Perhaps someone living there might tell us, preferably after first getting permission from the Board of Deputies of British Jews and their local sharia courts.

Posted by GT on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:31 | #

James,

“thanks responding on behalf of GT.  I surmise your relationship is as mentor and protégé so I’ll accept your answer as his.”

Some might take offense at this, but I don’t.

Maguire and I think alike in many important ways.  Some believe we are the same person.  Not true.  We are good friends.  The mentoring process works in both directions.  We are like commander and Sgt. Major; however, the roles are natural, voluntary, and entirely in accordance with our personalities.  The roles were not appointed.  People unacquainted with this type of relationship have trouble understanding it.

Posted by GT on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:25 | #

Ironic, James, that you advance this idea on the very day the Judeo-Zionist GOP has backstabbed its red state supporters for the benefit of Blue State schnozzensteins, in full public view and in the face of white hot opposition by those same supporters.

This betrayal by the GOP means a sizable-enough minority of McCain supporters will counter-productively vote for Obama.  I didn’t want that to happen.  I wanted them to continue doing what they have in the past: Support the Republican because there was no other (serious) choice.  The aspirations of the dominant WN “worse is better” group are now fulfilled, I’m afraid.  “McCain is toast,” as James stated in the past.  I disagreed with him at the time, but this betrayal has led me to change my mind.  McCain is toast.  Obamation 2008!  But will worse be better?  Well, we’re going to find out the hard way - being no better prepared than we have in the past.  Yes, there will be a short-lived increase in donations from pensioners “newly converted” to easy online racialism.  However, this will melt away.  I give full-on White political paralysis six years, tops.  Obama’s presidency will be more successful than Bill Clinton’s.  This is something Maguire and I must contemplate.

Posted by Desmond Jones on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:32 | #

Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul….?

Now Ron Paul himself is far from an ideal candidate.  But he is bringing out people who are intrinsically opposed to the existing system.  I think this is providing good practical opportunities for local networking with other real dissidents.

“Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.”

Posted by Desmond Jones on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:34 | #

Here, Fred.

Posted by Maguire on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:57 | #

Some entertainment for passing Republican coprophiliacs.

Perfect “Bailout” theme music from “The Sting”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xWS3h-apmk

And here’s another “Sting” character known as the “Cooler”.  He’s the one who keeps the sucker from blowing after his money is obviously taken.  In the original movie this was accomplished by a fake FBI raid.  We may see something analogous here on a massive scale.

“For bailout to work, housing market needs to mend”

By STEVENSON JACOBS, AP Business Writer

NEW YORK - Washington’s financial bailout plan is now law. So the credit spigot will start flowing again, banks will resume lending, and an economic recovery can begin, right?  Wrong. Experts say the most important thing that needs to happen before the $700 billion bailout even has a chance of working: Home prices must stop falling. That would send a signal to banks that the worst has passed and it’s safe to start doling out money again.”

Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:16 | #

Republican to Democrat Nay ratio on first vote:

133/95
= 1.4

second vote:

108/63
= 1.71429

108 hard core Representatives is nothing to sneeze at.

I stand by my counterfactual:

IF the Republicans wanted to win this election and demolish the Democrats, rather than losing it to the Obamacrats and becoming even more of a joke than they are, not only could they do so by uniformly getting behind Murray’s Plan (while ameliorating the economic crisis despite some inflationary pressures), but it would, within a single Presidential election cycle, either destroy or restructure the Republican party, itself.

Now, do I think the antecedent likely? 

Naw…. Of course not.  Despite the plausibility of a death bed awakening leading them to possibly consider acting in their own self-interest, I admit it is unlikely.

But it is educational for some to think about the fact that this option does exist for them and that it is not taken.

Posted by Maguire on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:30 | #

James,

“within a single Presidential election cycle, either destroy or restructure the Republican party, itself.”

That’s this election cycle.  The latest headlines are about the emerging possibility of a Democratic supermajority of 60 in the Senate.  So let’s look ahead to 2010, and assume contested elections are even still being held that year.  What has happened in the intervening two years since 2008?

Maguire

Posted by zuwr on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:48 | #

“Despite the plausibility of a death bed awakening leading them to possibly consider acting in their own self-interest, I admit it is unlikely.” 
I buttonholed my Congressman today and told him we needed to leave Afghanistan and Iraq.  He said we needed to stay.  I had hoped for a muted reaction, but that’s not what I got.  He’s a believer in the war.  It was after the meeting so there was him, four others and me standing around, so I don’t think it would have embarrassed him to give a less than enthusiastic answer.  The Congressman is good (no pun intended) on immigration, trade, taxes, national debt, the bailout votes, affirmative action, guns, etc. except for foreign policy.  It almost seems a cliche to blame it on the ethnic background of his Chief of Staff.  He is blind on the war…..I have no clue how he came into this affliction.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:42 | #

If he’s good on immigration and affirmative action, Zuwr, that’s what counts most, and I’d leave him alone on the war.  You’re right, we have to get out of that war.  But first things first, and immigration is first.

Posted by Dave Johns on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:55 | #

Hussien O or Juanito isn’t the disease per se, they merely reflect the symptoms of our sick society. The following video illustrates what we must overcome. Good freakin’ luck figuring out how!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q9nTfXh1eQ

The fact is: liberals are firmly entrenched in power and they will never relinquish their power over the welfare-state. Adopting Charles Murray’s solution is out of the question for the libs. Libs won’t give up an inch of ground, ever. That’s the nature of the Left.

Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:16 | #

Maguire:

I reiterate what I said about “national service” which will be as “voluntary” as obtaining food and housing. 

Surely, you are aware of how the Neocons have turned deprivation of essentials into a supply of “volunteers” to submit to their authority in military service.

What the African in Obama—the genetic dominance in Obama—wants is centralization of power in the “big man”.  He’ll be satisfied with fascism as long as it enforces Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.  He can entrain the globalists in this by corporatizing national service in a manner reminiscent of the way he might corporatize national healthcare.

What will be the response to this?

It’s hard to see much of a response out of the masses, or the elites, other than “compliance”.

Now, this isn’t to say there won’t be some contention:

Ralph Nader is the new Norm Thomas and Dennis Kucinich is the new Huey Long to the extent that Obama’s fascism is reminiscent of FDR’s “New Deal” socialism.  But I think these guys are going to be even less effective than their predecessors as opposition, if that’s possible.

It doesn’t look good from here.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:24 | #

When the people in the video Dave Johns linked switched to singing in Spanish I almost brought my breakfast back up just now.

Posted by GT on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:33 | #

Maguire & J. Bowery,

The latest headlines are about the emerging possibility of a Democratic supermajority of 60 in the Senate.

Obama and his group openly say they believe in Silly Putty plasticity for the Law.  Bush and his cabal thought the same way but were too circumspect to say so.  With a Democratic supermajority in the Senate we’re going to see the passage of an ADL Hate Speech bill with teeth.  Similar bills barely failed under past GOP regimes. 

We have proposed things - currently legal - that whites can immediately act on.  This means we pose a greater threat than aging conservative racialists with no plan awaiting a far-off “Depression & Revolution Day.”  Given Obamarule will be much closer to ANC-style than the current regime, we could be immediate targets.  Additionally, Bowery’s very high-level “in-your-face on Jewish and race issues” on Wikipedia and elsewhere incites strong emotions and may attract vengeful attention from supercharged SPLC-types. 

Maguire, those who were going to listen to us on White nationalist forums have done so. 

James, I strongly advise you take the implications of this message to heart.

Posted by Captainchaos on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:46 | #

“Obama and his group openly say they believe in Silly Putty plasticity for the Law.  Bush and his cabal thought the same way but were too circumspect to say so.  With a Democratic supermajority in the Senate we’re going to see the passage of an ADL Hate Speech bill with teeth.  Similar bills barely failed under past GOP regimes.” - GT

An Obama presidency now seems to be a strong probability.  GT, in your opinion is it foolhardy to continue to blog and comment on sites such as this?

Posted by GT on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:03 | #

in your opinion is it foolhardy to continue to blog and comment on sites such as this?

At the very least, following election night it will be time for non-hobbyists to act with heightened circumspection.  With few exceptions the leather armchair side will say “good riddance.”  The beer hall side will call it “cowardice.”  With the exception of those few who will push the limits to maintain nuthouse credibility and income the majority of keyboard commandos will be safe.  That’s fine.  Speech constraints on taking explicitly racial political positions await them.  Worse is better.

My recommendation, FWIW: After the election adopt a new pseudonym and sell microcommunities, alternate production and education, alternate currencies and barter, and local political empowerment elsewhere.  Do not limit yourself to political forums.  Do not mention race, jews, or ZOG.  The rule is implicit Whiteness.  Do not use the word “microcommunity” or the terms “alternate production” and “alternate currencies.”

FYI:  Charles Murray at AEI dot Org recently came out with higher education proposals identical to our own in its effects.  He has a new book and abstracted articles published in the WSJ. Murray essentially proposed doing away with college degrees and letting people just take certification tests CLEP style, without worrying how and where they learned the subject matter.

Posted by GT on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:44 | #

Ralph Nader is the new Norm Thomas and Dennis Kucinich is the new Huey Long to the extent that Obama’s fascism is reminiscent of FDR’s “New Deal” socialism.  But I think these guys are going to be even less effective than their predecessors as opposition, if that’s possible.

Plasticity in law coupled with the passage of an ADL-written hate speech bill means unlimited interpretations can be made on the opposition’s political statements. Words and phrases used by the opposition - including explicitly non-racist opposition - will become “racist” and “anti-Semitic.” The enemy will simply call them “code” and make context irrelevant.  This has happened time and again in the past.  It will take off like wildfire within two-four years.

As for the Republicans: If anybody thinks those easy money monetarists are nutless now, just wait and see how politically bisexual they will become over the next half-dozen years.  Twenty-five years from now Obama will be hailed as a great President - comparable to FDR - by these pimpled, overweight pencil pushers.

Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:41 | #

The rule is implicit Whiteness.

The Obamanation will target those communities quite directly.  NASCAR will go from being the object of Hollywood ridicule to portrayals of “domestic terrorists”.  We’ve already seen the beginnings of this in the TV series “Jericho” where a midwestern town with a large concentration of machinists is cast in the dual role of manufacturer of windmill generators and Nazi-like aggressors.  Essentially, if you don’t go out of your way to make clear your obsequiousness to the Obamanation, you will be deprived not just of your weapons but of your technology.  The hero in that series is, of course, a black man without whom not only the rural rubes, Nazis, etc. would be lost, but without whom the new all-too-white “Allied States of America” (capitol in Wyoming) would impose a faux Constitution with “1950s style oppression”.

Better not think of manufacturing your own windmill generators or even running a machine shop without a politburo apparatchik in a key position where he can not only keep an eye on “attitudes”, but where he can take credit for any technical successes on behalf of the Obamanation.

Posted by Maguire on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:59 | #

in your opinion is it foolhardy to continue to blog and comment on sites such as this?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882600.ece

Government will spy on every call and e-mail

Ministers are considering spending up to £12 billion on a database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.

Hundreds of clandestine probes will be installed to monitor customers live on two of the country’s biggest internet and mobile phone providers - thought to be BT and Vodafone. BT has nearly 5m internet customers.

Posted by GT on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:08 | #

We’ve already seen the beginnings of this in the TV series “Jericho” where a midwestern town with a large concentration of machinists is cast in the dual role of manufacturer of windmill generators and Nazi-like aggressors.  Essentially, if you don’t go out of your way to make clear your obsequiousness to the Obamanation, you will be deprived not just of your weapons but of your technology.  The hero in that series is, of course, a black man without whom not only the rural rubes, Nazis, etc. would be lost, but without whom the new all-too-white “Allied States of America” (capitol in Wyoming) would impose a faux Constitution with “1950s style oppression”.

Wow.  Somebody in Hollywood reads Majority Rights or knows somebody who does.  They didn’t just pull this out of their ass.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:08 | #

Re James’ comment, I’ve never seen “Jericho” but I’m sure it was po-mo liberalism and managerialism that wrote those story lines and scripts.  No human wrote those.  Nah.

Posted by Maguire on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:27 | #

James,

Surely, you are aware of how the Neocons have turned deprivation of essentials into a supply of “volunteers” to submit to their authority in military service.

I’m not only surely aware of it, I surely predicted it over six years ago.  At that point the ‘Net Nervous Aunties, gold bugs and collected keyboarder surfers went into spasms about “draft”.  I told them that instead of a draft the economic screws would be tightened down to economically motivate “volunteers”.

M

Posted by GT on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:00 | #

Better not think of manufacturing your own windmill generators or even running a machine shop without a politburo apparatchik in a key position where he can not only keep an eye on “attitudes”, but where he can take credit for any technical successes on behalf of the Obamanation.

Come on, James.  You’re a technical person.  In that situation you know as well I our advantage is their local functionaries are so technically ignorant they won’t know what they’re looking at unless we spell it out for them 1-2-3… Incidentally, that is why Maguire and I have never gone on to steps 4-5-6-7-8-9-10.

Implicit Whiteness minimizes the participation of non-Whites.  It does not guarantee 100% Whiteness.  Better to have the shops, equipment, electricians, welders, and machinists with a Negro or Mexican politburo apparatchik in a key position than to not have these things at all.

Posted by Maguire on Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:21 | #

Twenty-five years from now Obama will be hailed as a great President - comparable to FDR - by these pimpled, overweight pencil pushers.

This is one of those places where GT & I don’t agree completely. 

I think 25 years from now Obama will be remembered as the Mikhail Gorbachev of the former USA as it collapsed and these pimpled overweight pencil pushers will have died out in the intervening social, political and economic chaos.  And, best case outcome, Obama himself will be in exile wandering the Turd World rubber chicken circuit shaking his tin can, the same way Gorbachev does today from his home base in San Francisco.

No polity ever outlasts the demise of the extended genetic phenotype that created it.  This is an Iron Law of human history.  The USSR fell apart when the percentage of Russians had declined to 50% of the population.

The only place where highly successful negro technologists and CEOs are found is in the lala land of Jewish media.  This is the same domain where hyperspace drives, transporters and StarGates are found.  Morgan Freeman’s “Lucius” character in the current Batman franchise is an example.  Here in the real world they’re found heading up GM’s central design shop and Merrill Lynch circa 2005.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:13 | #

Will wonders never cease?  Hollywood star John Voigt, who made his reputation starring in the pro-degenerateness film “Midnight Cowboy,” has endorsed Sarah Palin.  Hollywood LOATHES her.  Very strange.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/afp/20081005/video/vwl-sarah-palin-passe-l-attaque-contre-o-acb3f14.html

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:12 | #

I guess you could say JWH isn’t .... how to put this? .... JWH isn’t exactly .... one of Sarah Palin’s biggest fans?  Yeah, something like that but I’m not sure I’m getting it right — take a look at the letter he just wrote to Steve Sailer and The Inductivist and see if I’m putting the right spin on it, it’s hard to tell:

Dear Steve and Ron,

Just so you know, not everyone critical of Palin is:

1. Jealous of the breeding success of the Palins.

2. Bitter “Jews” targeting “red state white Americans.”

3. Intimidated by the stunningly obvious “competence” of the “alpha male with the vagina” (although I do like the idea of a masculinized image for Palin).

4. A liberal, fearful that Obama’s “thunder” is being “stolen.”

Is it possible, just possible, that “rightists” are shocked that this dimwitted, ignorant, and semi-acromegalic “woman” has been lifted out from her deserved obscurity and elevated onto the national/international stage - with the (unlikely) possibility of one day being President of a nation once led by the likes of George Washington and Theodore Roosevelt?  Maybe that is it?  Maybe cringing through yet another TV interview, in which a chimpanzee could have brought to itself greater credit in comparison, has convinced more people that “Dick Tracy in a wig” is so spectacularly unqualified that the idea of Miers on the Supreme Court seems like the height of genius in comparison?  Me, I’ve been disgusted by the irresponsible audacity of McAmnesty’s choice from the beginning.

Guys, it’s time to get over your infatuation with Palin (which doesn’t say much for your sexuality) and try and look at “her” from the viewpoint of individuals who do not fit into the four categories listed above.

Best,

Western Biopolitics

I just wish JWH would “hold back” less, and say “what’s on his mind” more — he’s got to learn to not keep everybody guessing about where he stands ....

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:15 | #

(For the record, I adore Sarah Palin, lantern jaw and all.  No I don’t think she’s worth a bucket of warm spit on the immigration issue — but there’ll be plenty of time to hate her later if she ever gets in.  Right now she’s my cup of tea, very much so.)

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:22 | #

(Oh and I also can’t stand her support for Bush’s, Halliburton’s, and AIPAC’s War for Oil, Jews, and Israel.  He own son’s going and she’s glad he’s going.  Not normal.  Especially for this war.  But so much else about her is so good, that’s forgiven too.  What she needs is for her husband to get her under better control.  He does that and she’ll be fantastic — assuming he’s got his head screwed on frontwards.)

Posted by Dave Johns on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:35 | #

Is it possible, just possible, that “rightists” are shocked that this dimwitted, ignorant, and semi-acromegalic “woman” has been lifted out from her deserved obscurity and elevated onto the national/international stage - with the (unlikely) possibility of one day being President of a nation once led by the likes of George Washington and Theodore Roosevelt?

As a right-winger, what truly shocks me, is Sarah, compared to the other three (Hussein O, Biden, and McCain), inspires the most confidence. I’m not saying Sarah merits standing with the likes of Washington, Jefferson, or Theodore Roosevelt, but she’s by far the best amongst the cast of characters we presently have to choose from. She posses the natural leadership qualities the other three lack. What does that tell us about the sad state of affairs white men find their selves in?

Too, she represents just about everything the Left so despises. IF for that reason only, I support her. If McCain wins, maybe she can lean on the old codger and persuade him to steer this country in the opposite direction from the present course of socialism we are on. As it stands right now, the USA is taking a collective swan dive into the pool of socialism. With a Hussein O presidency, that swan dive will be into the deep of the pool minus the water.

The more socialist this country becomes, the less chance White Preservation has of becoming a reality. If Obama becomes President, GT’s proposition of microcommunities will go from looking like a paranoid fantasy to becoming a viable strategy for our genetic survival. I truly hope it never degenerates to that point.

P.S.

It’s true Sarah’ resume is thin, but let’s compare it at Hussein O’s:-

http://www.youtube.com/user/NewYorkTimesCoverUps

P.S.S.

All that said, it seems obvious the outcome of the election was fixed by the elites before it started. We’re screwed!

Posted by GT on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:49 | #

Maguire and I have done what we could on WN forums.  Those who listened can dig up our past expositions for more information on the path to take.  If our ideas made Hymiewood scripts, they’ve made the SPLC and ADL as well.  At this point, new inquiries on WN forums are at least as likely to be agents as genuinely interested Whites.

The Internet entities “GT,” “Euroman,” and “Maguire” are now one with the history of the early revolutionary era Maguire described, years ago, at http://www.faem.com  .
——

Once again, my recommendation for those who have listened: After the election adopt new pseudonyms and sell microcommunities, alternate production and education, alternate currencies and barter, and local political empowerment elsewhere.  However, do not use the word “microcommunity” or the terms “alternate production” and “alternate currencies” for these terms are easily tracked by the enemy.  Be creative.  Do not mention race, jews, ZOG, or employ WN terminology.  The rule is Implicit Whiteness.  Do not limit yourselves to political forums, as most WNs tend to do.  Go everywhere.

Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:35 | #

The link to Maguire’s articles is:

http://www.faem.com/maguire/

Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:50 | #

Thanks for the contributions you’ve made to our peoples’ struggle.  May the wind be at your backs.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:12 | #

Maguire’s collection of essays at the link James provided implies considerable acquaintance with the U.S. military.  Question for Maguire:  Obviously the Occupation Government in D.C. takes every precaution to weed out any Euro military officer material that looks at what’s going on the way we at this site do.  Nevertheless, just as obviously there will be a fraction of potential Euro officers who don’t believe this shit and never will believe it no matter how intense the brainwashing, but do agree to mouthe the propaganda they’re required to mouthe in order to get promoted and make a career in the military.  So, there’s a portion of the Euro officer corps that privately agrees with us (to which someone like Gen. Wesley Clark doesn’t, of course, belong).  Does Maguire think the proportion of such Euro military officers, ones who if ordered to fire on us in case violence broke out would feel the call of the blood and refuse (might even turn their weapons on the ones giving them the orders), is sufficient to give our side a fighting chance, were violence ever to break out?  Might there be enough Pinochets among the Euro officers, in other words?  I was never in the armed forces so have no feel whatsoever for that sort of thing.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:17 | #

On second thought, maybe it’s better that Maguire not answer that question (for obvious reasons).  Forget it — question is withdrawn.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:27 | #

“The Internet entities ‘GT,’ ‘Euroman,’ and ‘Maguire’ are now one with the history of the early revolutionary era Maguire described, years ago”  (—GT)

I gather (after reading CC’s post) that means you two are quitting this site? 

If so, I second CC’s comment.

Posted by DavidL on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:49 | #

Fred

That was a great question you asked of Maguire but retracted.
I have wanted to ask him the same thing but hesitated for the
same reason.
Hope he can give us some thoughts anyway - w/o doing any harm

Posted by silver on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:56 | #

< blockquote>  So, there’s a portion of the Euro officer corps that privately agrees with us (to which someone like Gen. Wesley Clark doesn’t, of course, belong).  Does Maguire think the proportion of such Euro military officers, ones who if ordered to fire on us in case violence broke out would feel the call of the blood and refuse (might even turn their weapons on the ones giving them the orders), is sufficient to give our side a fighting chance, were violence ever to break out?</blockquote>

The ideological sturdiness of the Yugoslav army (JNA) was insufficient to prevent its dissolution along ethnic lines once nationalist fervor drove events beyond a certain point.  That point wasn’t the Slovene and Croat declaration of independance nor the short-lived limited conflict which ensued.  But by the time of the outbreak of hostilities in Croatia the officers’ ideological committment to Yugoslavism had waned, leading to mass desertions and the consolidation of the JNA into a Serbian force.  I leave it to you to consider possible parallels in America.

Posted by snax on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:45 | #

Lew Rockwell says the Fed is not privately owned, but the guys who produced the Money Masters movie say it is. Both, I think, are generally a sound source. What’s the view of people here?

Posted by snax on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:55 | #

If Maguire and GT are done here I’d like to thank them for their efforts and wish them well for the future. Their perspective contributed to my re-orienting my own and I downloaded plenty o’manuals via GT’s links some of which have already proven useful.

Thanks fellas - and bon voyage.

Posted by Dave Johns on Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:45 | #

“Maguire and I have done what we could on WN forums.”—GT

Wrong, GT! As it relates to the “movement”, your departure is premature. The importance of your ideas are going to become increasingly relevant as the situation on the ground deteriorates—and deteriorate it will! I’d only request that you’d stay in contact if only you do so indirectly. You could pass on any pertinent info about your project to GW so he could post it in the Practic section?

Regards,

Posted by Fr. John on Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:00 | #

It matters little what the Republicrats, or the Dhimmitude parties do.

If either wins, AIPAC rules for another eight years.

As Ron Paul has noted, Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party is the ONLY man to vote for.

End of story.

Posted by Othelma_Jr on Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:59 | #

The aspirations of the dominant WN “worse is better” group are now fulfilled, I’m afraid.  “McCain is toast,” as James stated in the past.  I disagreed with him at the time, but this betrayal has led me to change my mind.  McCain is toast.  Obamation 2008!  But will worse be better?  Well, we’re going to find out the hard way - being no better prepared than we have in the past.  Yes, there will be a short-lived increase in donations from pensioners “newly converted” to easy online racialism.  However, this will melt away.  I give full-on White political paralysis six years, tops.  Obama’s presidency will be more successful than Bill Clinton’s.  This is something Maguire and I must contemplate.

What a load of bollocks!

The Economy is collapsing!  ZOG just had to assassinate Haider…

From my reading it seems both David Duke and Willis Carto have joined the ‘Worse is Better’ crowd. 

RIDE THE TIGER!!!

Posted by iva on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:55 | #

But until now this is republican’s who are suffering from the financial crises and making it one of the reason of barak’s popularity.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:18 | #

If the Republican leadership were military leadership, they’d all be fragged.