Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2019 09:12 | #

The best way to look upon the right and its propensity/anxiety to seek narrow and purer warrants is to see it as temporary/provisional excursions to provide feedback, but inherently unstable and in need to be gauged against the calibration of our relative group interests, of The White Class and its capacity to negotiate, with its stabilizing correctability among this praxis, in coordination of ourselves and other peoples.

The trolling hurts in a way as it derails me from getting to some important points at times, for example, that White masculinity is of a different, more sublimated quality, than the masculinity we are being pushed toward in what I call “universal maturity” an incitement to sheer masculinity that would have us moving toward an African and K selection style of masculinity which takes White men out of their natural, optimally sublimated form of masculinity at the behest of puerile female predilections pandered to on a universalist basis.

In a sense there is a tautology of manning up and taking responsibility indeed when you don’t only blame yourself as a White man but recognize and hold to account the perfidy (and responsibility) of White women, in mudsharking, for example. 

It was also suggested that I don’t talk much (not enough?) about military.. but I do some: in regard to the DNA Nations, one of the reason for it is to develop and coordinate a sufficient body of European peoples for military defense and an economy big enough to handle projects such as that - among others - which require massive funding.

I’ve also discussed the fact that we can turn our aging demographic from a liability to an asset with the concept of voluntary “geriatric regiments.”

With regard to my suggestion that as opposed to attempts to resurrect, promote Hitler/Nazism, as a cause that should be exonerated across the board should, they should primarily be relegated to history - both as the best means of unburdening guilt trips, but also as the historical perspective allows us to learn from what they had right, sure, but also to learn from what that regime had wrong, which was significant. Thus, to develop better means for coordination of European interests. 

With regard to my suggestion that as opposed to attempts to resurrect, and promote Hitler/Nazism, as a cause that should be exonerated across the board, they should primarily be relegated to history - both as the best means of unburdening guilt trips, but also as the historical perspective allows us to learn from what they had right, sure, but also to learn from what that regime had wrong, which was significant. Thus, to develop better means for coordination of European interests.

...just as I would not defend a Polish epoch where feudal lords were deploying YKW to financially exploit peasantry; but chalk it up to history and recognize a mistake to be learned from.

Posted by Turquoise Bolo, a Southern Gent on Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:33 | #

ATurquoise Bolo

We are exploited and denigrated on the basis of their claim to that snapshot in history.

DanielS: We are exploited not only on the basis of that, and their “snapshot” does not represent the Allied White Nationalist side very well either.

ATurquoise Bolo: That is why it’s important to so many of us.

DanielS: I’ve seen it for years and have done my best to alleviate you all of guilt trips - It’s history, you didn’t do it. I’m not laying guilt trips on you but I don’t want them either, didn’t have anything to do with it either.

ATurquoise Bolo: Americans and Germans are paying these people because they’ve been given they liberty in their lie.

DanielS: Well, which lie? I wish that I could trust staunch Nazi sympathizers to be after the truth, but it’s not my experience.

ATurquoise Bolo: I find it odd that you avoid Nazis because, outside of them, the best opposition to Jewry were explicitly Christian.

DanielS: I don’t avoid Nazis, I reject their platform. I recognize them as people who had no problem with destroying the peoples of other European nations if they stood in the way of their imperialist, supremacist aims, and I think that other means for handling the Jews - viz. a cooperation among European peoples, in recognition that Jews are not European - would have been effective, whereas all the Nazis did was stigmatize ethnonationalism and a stance against Jewry. As for Christianity being a good opposition to Jewry,  well no - unless you call it good to be frapped-up by a spider in its web so that it and its offspring can feast on you when its good and ready..

ATurquoise Bolo: Christianity until recently was explicitly anti-Jew (I would say until a decade after WWII) and you still have traditional Southern men and women of what could be considered fair to middling intellect still grounded in a racially aware (Revelations says one world one people is the greatest evil brought by the people who say they are Jews but are really the Synogague of Satan).

DanielS: I’ve heard it before. You are barking up the wrong tree. I thought that in talking to Faustian Spirit that I would not have to deal with Christian arguments. There are platforms that agree with you, see White advocacy and Christianity (and Nazism) going together; I don’t represent that platform. I’ve written a great deal on these matters as to why.

ATurquoise Bolo: Our white brethren have maintained the candle quietly throughout all of this whatever the philosophical changes crop up. I think it’s clear that you may not have familiarity with Southern American folk or the popularity of their culture among identitarians around the world.

DanielS: I have cousins in Alabama and I’ve listened to the various Southern broadcasts, read the various sites. A great deal of very intelligent material. I am on the side of Whites; I recognize the Southerners, usually Scots-Irish, as potent stock - but I wish, for example, that they would not be so likely to fight in wars that are not in their interests; however, all I can do is offer my advice where asked - I do not go to Christian sites, or Nazi sites, or Southern sites and tell them what to do.

ATurquoise Bolo: Much like rap spreads among the globohomo indulgent; the Confederacy is admired and elevated by racial nationalists (of all races, ironically, even a hefty number of Alabama blacks who maintain segregation was better and the coloureds of South Africa who thumb their noses at the Bantu by singing Dixie at annual parades) while the North has filtered their nonsense down to the local with sheer force of financial whim.

DanielS: Again, my mother’s sister intermarried with a Faulkner in Alabama and the visits of my Southern cousins were always a warm experience and a feeling of mutual support that I could only wish to feel from my Northern family. And I really liked the beauty and the people I experienced passing through the small Ozark towns of Arkansas too. I wore a Rebel flag pin and it was appreciated, as I appreciated them. If I had the power to undo the Civil War, I certainly would - talk is cheap, but States Rights and governance thereof (what Bowery calls “the laboratory of the States, discussed in the DNA Nations) was the way to go - still is - Join the DNA Nations, please. Lets save each other.

Posted by The White Class on Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:34 | #

I don’t know what happened to the stream with Faust, so I’ll put this comment here for now:

When he says that yes, post modernity was not intended to end up this way and neither was the U.S. Constitution he is missing the mark on two important points.

1) The Constitution is based on Enlightenment principles. Post Modernity is devised to correct the Enlightenment’s destruction of cultural (qua racial) differences and maintenance.

2) To say that Post Modernity was “intended” to do something but failed as a result of unintended consequences is to miss the point that the proper understanding of post modernity, which I distinguish as White Post Modernity, was deliberately obfuscated by YKW. If it were understood properly, it would not result in the boundless deconstructionism and hyper relative da da nonsense that most people associate with “post modernity.”

Very importantly, because people don’t have a proper understanding of Post Modernity, they are often at loss as to how to respond to the disordering upshot of modernity. They either double down on Modernity and take its destruction yet further, or go into some backward traditionalism, often including traditions which leave us susceptible for their anachronistic lack of sophistication. ... or people despair and fall into the wales of drug addiction or other degeneracy for lack of being able to enmesh in community as a proper understanding of White Post Modernity would afford.

.......

On another point, Faust has suggested that I am doing a no true Scotsman with my concept of the Left.

That isn’t true.

If we are speaking of “The Left” we are talking about solidarity of the working class of the world against elite oppressors.

However, if we talk in terms of a White ethnonationalist left, we are delimiting the union to White ethononationalists.

Because it is rather a neologisim, we are indeed free to interpret the term’s contents in our White interests, to say e.g., yes, you can have private property, free enterprise, wealth, significant individual liberty… so long as you are accountable - you have White Class as it were, call it The White Class if you prefer (finding the term “left” too awkward to negotiate).

It is not just socialism for Whites then, because the social aspect is focused on our people - their responsibility to our unionization so to speak. What kind of economy a particular ethnostate might operate is open to negotiation as far as I’m concerned ...though I’d recommend the necessary mixture be acknowledged, that some social safety net,  leverage of common interest pooled, some property and industry be national, I don’t see any way around a mixed economy, that would include private property and some free enterprise along with its incentives.

                                            - DanielS