Is the Ukrainian counter-offensive for Bakhmut the counter-offensive for Ukraine?

Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, 18 May 2023 18:55.

Flanking action at Bakhmut
How the action began a few kilometres to the west of the town, with small groups of
Russian Army soldiers like this forced from cover.

It is several days ago now since we began to be informed of a successful flanking action by Ukrainian specialist forces to the south and west of Bakhmut.  Yevgeny Prigozhin railed at the regular soldiers who were, he said, “crumbling”, and was quick to claim that the defender’s long-awaited counter-offensive was “in full swing”.  Since then the action has continued, with steady and sometimes substantial gains for the Ukrainians while the Wagnerites and other PMCs together with VDV contingents inch forward in the town itself.

It is becoming clear that Bakhmut means something different to each side.  The Russian penchant for proclaiming victory in the form of completely capturing the town or cutting the Ukrainians’ “Road of Life” gesture more towards the spite and jealousy which exists between Progozhin and Sergei Shoigu and between Prigozhin and Valery Gerasimov than towards anything demonstrably true about Russian progress.  The field commanders are plainly responding to political as much as military goals.  Moscow demands a victory.  It’s been that way for many months, and perhaps there is not too much more to say about it.

During most of that time the line from Kiev has been that the town is not strategically important, and losing it does not hold wider meanings.  As long as the kill rate was favourable for the defenders they would stay and fight.  Once the cost rose too high, they would leave.  This is the policy which had held sway throughout the war, and was summed up in the simple formula that Russian leaders in wartime traditionally value territory above soldiers’ lives, but the Ukrainians do not have the luxury of numbers of soldiers they can throw away, and are quite content to trade territory for the lives of men who can fight another day.  But now we are not hearing that.  For the last six weeks Zelensky has been explaining that Bakhmut must be held, or the way is open to Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.  So why this change?

The Ukrainians have not employed the new Western equipment in their flanking action.  They are fighting with the usual Soviet-era equipment.  But they are pouring in their best people to the offensive, just as the best Russian units are invested in taking full control within the town.  This little, ruined place has become much more than a local hotspot.  With the Russians turning to defence almost everywhere else along the front, and the Ukrainians preparing and preparing all over again for their main counter-offensive, the war is narrowing down to what happens here, and the stakes for both sides are rising.  The Ukrainians are manifestly intending to encircle the Russians in the town, cut off their ammunition supply, and force a Russian turning action or a surrender.  If that comes to pass Russian morale will collapse everywhere, and the main Ukrainian counter-offensive will be massively advantaged.  The Ukrainians have four to six weeks to make it work.

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:25 | #

Democratic Backsliding
The Biden administration is subjugating its opponents at home and overseas.

Douglas Macgregor

June 13, 2023

Presidents lie when it suits their purpose. Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Lyndon B. Johnson all promised Americans that they would not send American boys to die in foreign wars. President Joe Biden, however, is arguably the first to make public predictions that invariably came true in reverse.

Instead of deterring China, the Taiwanese electorate is likely to elect a new government that favors reunification with Beijing. Rather than collapsing the Russian economy, Biden’s proxy war is destroying the economically fragile European Union. Instead of realizing Francis Fukuyama’s “Rebirth of the West,” Washington’s policies are accelerating its decline. And instead of preventing the emergence of a new coalition or axis of illiberal powers—including Russia, China, India, Iran, Saudi Arabia and others—Washington has cemented these relationships to the detriment of Western interests.

Ukraine’s “spring” and now summer offensive operation is stalled, if not defeated. Exact numbers of Ukrainian dead and wounded are not yet available, but the number of Ukrainian soldiers killed in action in the latest onslaught reportedly number in the thousands, along with many more wounded. Tank and armored-fighting-vehicle losses have also been significant. Meanwhile, Russian losses in response to the offensive are reported to be relatively negligible, with Russian soldiers killed and wounded in action only in the hundreds.

Americans must understand that that there is no more difficult and complex military operation than a deliberate attack to penetrate prepared enemy defenses.

Read more>>

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/democratic-backsliding/


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 00:34 | #

I think Douglas Macgregor may be correct .

The Chinese , who conquered the island and ejected the Malay - type populace , were wary of China prior to Beijing’s (Deng - era) enthusiastic embrace of Western Industrial Capitalism.

Having seen China’s economic renaissance , the “Taiwanese” are now very comfortable with the notion of a future sans pestilential Americans interfering in the Far East.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:43 | #

Having seen China’s economic renaissance , the “Taiwanese” are now very comfortable with the notion of a future sans pestilential Americans interfering in the Far East.

Unfortunately for the Western Alliance, all those in the BRICS Alliance (BTW, the BRICS Alliance is increasing their membership - E.g. Saudi Arabia et al.) share that same sentiment.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 21 Jun 2023 22:22 | #


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:53 | #

GW , here’s an interesting defence agin the customary Jewish nonsense about Race being a ” social(ist) construct.”  The parentheses are , of course , mine.

  https://skepticalinquirer.org/2023/06/the-ideological-subversion-of-biology/

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 02:14 | #

Not content with importing the Jewish heresy , Christianity , to a White continent , and relishing the inevitable result , viz., the Wars of Religion ( the bible has too many chapter v the bible has an insufficient number of chapters ) which were Europe’s worst , casualty - wise ,our eternal enemies have done their racial duty here :

  https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/06/13/queering_jesus_how_its_going_mainstream_at_progressive_churches_and_top_divinity_schools_903535.html


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 02:31 | #

Just in case some Thorn - type idiot thinks my employment of the word “eternal” applies to rational folks , well it does not.

The wily Jewish authors of Christianity made certain that , thanks to Noahide Laws , posthumous Christian Americans will find life Judaically and , as it necessarily follows , subjugation - wise , similar to that which now pertains terrestrially to them in their once great country.


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 06:00 | #

As we all know , The President of the United States of America is an extremely important man . The most important in the World , laughed the BRICS adherents.

Therefore ,  as a tribute to his Brit - victim Irish heritage ( what did the Irish eat before the English brought the potato from the New World ?) here’s an ethnic blagger’s little girl hair sniffing delight :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbaEkZ7RmCQ

 


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Posted by Kierkegaard on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 07:50 | #

- Guessedworker

The Russkies are coming for you next:

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1669741415105015812

“Russian scientists must develop a biological weapon that would only work on Anglo-Saxons - says Lieutenant General Andrey Gurulev, member of defense committee in Russian parliament.

“Since such a situation has developed, we ourselves need to sit down, our scientists, and develop <...> the same weapon against the Anglo-Saxons.  They specifically study the gene pool of each people and try to make the weapon that will destroy their gene pool. We need to deal with the Anglo-Saxons - this is the main enemy.  <…> And they should know about it, that guys, God forbid, you will get no less in return,” Gurulev said.”


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Posted by Manc on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 10:07 | #

The Russians are too late. Cambridge University has beaten them to it.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/06/04/erasing-the-english-anglo-saxons-never-existed-claims-cambridge-university/


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 10:17 | #

@9

Eh, that’s just your typical hyperbolic Russian fear mongering ... probably born out of sheer frustration and impatience.

But here, I’ll do ya one better:

UK could be ‘plunged into the sea’ by underwater nuclear strike, Russia state TV threatens
Dmitry Kiselyov, a Putin propagandist, threatened the UK with a Poseidon underwater drone

Britain could be “plunged into the sea” by an underwater nuclear strike, a host on Russian state television has threatened.

Dmitry Kiselyov, a key propagandist for Vladimir Putin, used his show on Sunday night to suggest an attack on UK using a Poseidon underwater drone could be a possible course of action for Russia.

Mr Kiselyov said the weapon would trigger a radioactive tidal wave and plunge Britain “to the depths of the ocean”.

He added: “This tidal wave is also a carrier of extremely high doses of radiation. Surging over Britain, it will turn whatever is left of them into radioactive desert, unusable for anything. How do you like this prospect?”[...]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/britain-underwater-nuclear-strike-russia-b2069819.html

 


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:14 | #

@10

If the “academics” can convince their students there are 58 genders and men can get pregnant and give birth, conning them into believing Anglo-Saxons never existed and that Anglo-Saxons are just a racist concoction meant to stoke British nationalism will be a cinch.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:07 | #

“Just in case some Thorn - type idiot thinks my employment of the word “eternal” applies to rational folks , well it does not.”

Based on his eyes, his nervous demeanour, I doubt that Joseph Campbell was a Christian; however he was rational as is the Christian religion.

Here is Campbell on the distinction between time and eternity.

Eternity isn’t some later time. Eternity isn’t even a long time. Eternity has nothing to do with time. Eternity is that dimension of here and now that all thinking in temporal terms cuts off…. the experience of eternity right here and now, in all things, whether thought of as good or as evil, is the function of life.

Eternity is inescapable…

Materialists build careers trying to ignore it and trying to convince others to ignore it too.
You cannot point to it, because it is outside time.
Yet, rational men…men more rational and intelligent than you will ever be, know of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8j9TE7P38

p.s. if you have not bothered to read E. Michael Jones’ book “Logos Rising” you are not even in the discussion, rather, you are a schoolboy taunting the foundational minds of the Western Tradition…


Also, Bakhmut is conquered. The jews have lost Ukraine.

#LogosRising

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:23 | #

@13

Al Ross is not a person to be taken seriously. He’s proven time and time again to be an angry frustrated little oddball. I know I state the obvious, but still….


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:26 | #

Wagner Merc Rebellion?

[..]The Brit Intel being involved, and in the lead on this, with the USA’s CIA in a supporting role. The Brits having been leading the charge in UKE, since it kicked off, and as we all know, the UK and USA are neck deep in many aspects of this fight, from the destruction of Nordstream, to the overt equipment, and covert personnel support.

This situation in Russia does nothing but make the possibility of a limited or even “Go for broke” nuclear situation even more likely. Putin is no fool, he has the largest and most advanced nuclear arsenal in the world, and I believe is not afraid to use them against the UKE’s or the NATO fools who have been pushing the UKE’s towards their own demise in this fight. The bottom line is that it’s being done to forward the agenda of the New World Order and the Military Industrial Complex, all the while, trying to cover up crimes committed by Despot-in-Chief (D-I-C) [Biden] and his Family of criminals.

Watch Scott Ritter being interviewed by Judge Napolitano.

https://masondixonsurvivalistassociation.wordpress.com/2023/06/24/wagner-merc-rebellion/

 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:41 | #

@Thorn latest….

watched it. The Moscow Maidan failed….

Back up a bit and look at the scope of what has happened…

A color revolution pretext* has failed and the best minds of the world are on to it and spreading the word.

We are in a global revolt against the (((cosmopolitan elites))) and their hand-maids.


*The planning and scope is very remarkable…but now, it is seen and cannot be unseen.

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:15 | #

Re E. Michael Jones’ book “Logos Rising”

Tim,

Thanks for reminding me of that book. A couple months ago I tried to order it, but the particular website I used required too much rigmarole to order it. They wanted me to set up an account with a password amongst a bunch of other intrusive info crap.

I’ll try again via the site E. Michael Jones suggested.

Again, thanks for reminding me. I look forward to reading it.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:23 | #

Ordered it. Fidelity Press. $48.00 USD.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:18 | #

Let me know what you think.

I am finding it a dense read…the sort of book that opens up vast vistas of intellectual exploration….which is to say it is a sort of map of how we came to think.

I finished the chapter on Hegel last week…the birth of the Protestant heresy completely deflated me. Luther was a bar fly,  banging kidnapped apostate nuns he picked up at the local Holiday Inn bar.
The use of Hegel and his Philosophy for political purposes by the Prussians gives me pause , that Marx and Luther were proteges of Hegel gave me more pause; all those fundamentalist Christians fighting Communism were at war with themselves , unbeknownst to them.

Jones linked to a study group that has sprung up; normal ‘dude’ looking at the sources of the ideas that governed the world they grew up in.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5POTrwiMY&t=1210s
The spirit of the talks is exactly what GuessedWorker linked to in the milleniyule series…

I found this secular review of the book by a cultural marxist particularly refreshing. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

This is a longish way of saying that the book focuses on first principles…the ontology (i.e. metaphysics*) of ourselves. It begins to provide the ammunition to jettison the fools that purport to lead us and begins to lay / rediscover the groundwork that made the Christendom great.

*I learned that ontology and metaphysics are synonyms from the free PDF version of The Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy.
I know as I learn the concepts Jones presents, precise definitions will be required. 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:19 | #

I am finding it a dense read…

Sounds like it will require a lot of research whilst reading it. At least it’ll be required for a layman such as I. But then again the internet makes research an easy task.

I learned that ontology and metaphysics are synonyms

Interesting. I was/am of the understanding that ontology and metaphysics can/do overlap but are not necessarily synonymous. But for now, I’ll take your word for it.

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:21 | #

But for now, I’ll take your word for it.

Download the PDF and look under “ontology” the definition is there…

cordially


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:59 | #

@21

It wouldn’t let me download the PDF but I looked up the definition of synonym:

Merriam-Webster

1: one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses.

So yes, given that definition, you’re right.  Ontology and metaphysics fit into the definition of being synonyms.

In a nutshell:

The Difference between Metaphysics and Ontology

While both metaphysics and ontology are branches of philosophy concerned with fundamental questions about reality, there is a subtle difference between the two. Metaphysics is a more broad and general term that encompasses a wide range of philosophical inquiries about the nature of reality, including questions about the mind, the universe, and the nature of being itself. Ontology, on the other hand, is a specific subfield of metaphysics that focuses specifically on the study of existence and being, and the fundamental categories and structures that underlie them. In other words, ontology is a more narrow and specific area of inquiry within the broader field of metaphysics.

Examples of Metaphysics and Ontology

Here are some examples of metaphysical and ontological questions:

Metaphysics:

What is the nature of reality?
Does God exist?
What is the relationship between mind and body?
Is time a fundamental aspect of the universe, or is it a product of human perception?

Ontology:

What kinds of things exist in the world?
How can we classify different types of entities based on their essential characteristics?
What is the relationship between a particular entity and its properties?
How can we describe the different categories and structures that underlie existence?
An example of a metaphysical question might be: “What is the ultimate nature of reality beyond our perception of it?”

An example of an ontological question might be: “What are the essential characteristics of living beings, and how can we group them into different categories based on these characteristics?”

 

https://differencedigest.com/science/physics/what-is-the-difference-between-metaphysics-and-ontology/

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:08 | #

That is very good, thank you; it makes good sense.


I was thinking about Al Ross’ statement on Eternity and it is a valid category for inquiry on a purely physical level….

If Space-Time is a thing, then Time may only exist within Space.
We know the universe was very small at one point. We also know that it is expanding.

Presumably it is expanding and contracting within “something” that is not space/time.

If time is tightly bound to space, then we can conjecture that time does not exist in that containing ‘something’.

Since time does not exist there, it fits the definition of eternity.

No God needed.

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:34 | #

We know the universe was very small at one point. We also know that it is expanding.

Is it possible there something outside of or beyond the infinite universe?

Is the human mind finite or infinite?

Does Al Ross know how to tie his own shoe laces?

 


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:03 | #

The problem with “atheists” is they have a very stunted ability to reason in the abstract. They run into a brick wall half-way into the logical process.


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Posted by timothy murray on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 00:52 | #

Agreed . It does get redundant and it is always disappointing.

Jones’ book is invaluable in this regard…the athiest will run to the state of mind of the philosopher that formed him. Since he is true to his first principles, he is triumphant in his own mind.

In this regard, athiests are Protestants….

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:58 | #

Just as it is true that ” [modern] liberalism is a mental disorder”, the same can be said that ‘Atheism is a mental deficiency’ - as it’s demonstrated by the likes of Bertrand Russell.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:39 | #


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 00:59 | #

@19 Well , thanks for keeping us up to date with your belated “education.”  You are a most tenacious bore.

I liked the bar fly slur .  What did Luther , the abolisher of RC witch - burning actually drink ?

  The famous and delightful Chateauneuf du Pape ?  The Wine of Popes.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 01:26 | #

@28 Look at me . I copied someone else’s meme . Aren’t I a clever wee Yank ?


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 02:35 | #

Good old Jew God. We have defeated these White atheists . Right Thorn ?

Here’s how it was done.:  Aeroplane crashes in the jungle . Two hundred people dead . Two survived. 

Thank God , He saved us .

God receives credit instead of an intelligent person’s inquiry .  Well , God put you folks in a hell of a situation in the first place . But never mind , let’s keep our IQ in abeyance.

You stupid Americans do not even read your old Jew - Book .  Your Jewish Celestial Overlord has no interest in Gentile Terrestrial events.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:48 | #

Timothy . thanks for the priceless attempt at educating Thorn ?

  Are you one or two auto - didactically - derived chapters ahead of your chronically obtuse pupil ?

Never mind , Timothy , you have Christian Eternity to correct Thorn’s misconceptions because God loves Eternity’s dissenting opinions.

As they say in Yorkshire , ” Think On’t “.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 14:59 | #

Good old Jew God. We have defeated these White atheists . Right Thorn ?

LOL. Oddball Al strikes again.

Atheists are self-defeating. Their faith in atheism is an illogical ideology built on quicksand. As long as atheists are unable to answer the most fundamental question (a question they avoid): How can from out of nothing (ex nihilo) come something? Atheists will remain perennial losers. It’s obvious atheists’ conclusions are based on the flimsiest most absurd premises.

 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 19:46 | #

Dear Al

You continually harp on reason and logic as the basis for your being, yet you are remarkably deficient in exercising either with your commentary;
Your habit of insult in place of argument is very girlish.

I would like to take your comments and insults seriously, but you have demonstrated no positive reason to do so.

cordially,

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 03 Jul 2023 22:40 | #

@19

Tim,

Just got done reading the intro and the first two chapters. ..LOL .. So refreshing. So entertaining. E. Michael Jones does a masterful job of exposing the sheer foolishness of atheists’ “logic”. Too funny!!


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Posted by timothy murray on Tue, 04 Jul 2023 02:12 | #

Hi Thorn

I am so very pleased in your delight in the book. Thank you for the comnent.


It gets better.

Jones gives us the historical vista of ourselves.

Did you notice Jone’s respect for the Aryans?

I am now of the opinion that America CANNOT survive because of the philosophical errors of the thought ...Locke…etc…which formed it.


5he discussion of Luther completely deflated me, dissilusioning me of the possibility of rational discourse converting this dying protestant empire.

Revilo P. Oliver was right about the protestant religion…

Jones makes abundantly clear the nec.
essity of fluency in symbolic and the techniques of logical proof.

The proof , using Spinoza’s proposition…the basis of Hegel’.s Dialectic…which created Prussian statism and Marx (and, iirc, Luther)...the proof demonstrating that Hegel’s Law of Contradiction is logically false   is freaking gobsmacking.


What Jones has done is broken “the frame” , “the narrative” , ” the categories of our minds” that keep us subjugated and replaced them with right reason.

we can see, now.

Also, it is a blast.

Al and GuessedWorker, the book is , as a cultural marxist critic of it has written,  changing the way men think…..it is an ontological project of which you should be informed.

cordially

 


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 04 Jul 2023 10:13 | #

It gets better.

Yes, I’m surmising the first two chapters along with the intro are just a warmup before Mr. Jones gets into the real meat of the matter.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 01:31 | #

  Timothy , nothing you write advances White EGI in any way whatsoever.

The wildly flailing “girlish” insult is rib - ticklingly funny considering the fact that you RC types are , arguably pagan , idolators of Mary. ” Queen of Heaven “.  Statues of that Jewess are everywhere in Ireland. 

  Go sell crazy elsewhere , we have enjoyed Supernatural - based imaginings ” sufficient unto the day” , to quote the old Jew - Book. 

My employment of the “we” is emblematic of an Exorcist type ( director , (((William Friedkin)))  ) Satanic demon inside me , rather than my impolite presumption to speak for the eminently rational GW.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:24 | #

  Timothy and Thorn :  What may be needed on GW’s blog are further and better particulars of how old Jesus is going to make the afterlife of you two (((dupes))) better.

But , of course , you folks can have your Eternal Paradisaical cake and eat it . 

Go to Heaven ?  Be with the Jewish triumvirate.

Remain on Earth ?  Be with the Jewish triumvirate  

Because Paradise is wherever God shows up and divides his chimerical personas.

Made in the Shade.


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Posted by timothy murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:35 | #

Dear Al

You bear the halmarks of a possesed man.

Your interactions with Thorn are straight out of Malachai Martin’s Hostage to the Devil.


Fr, Chad Rippergers series on demonic oppression and suppression will help you get your legs under you.


Notice too, that when pressed on purely rational grounds you again offer no rebuttal but insult and now, hatred.

I will light a candle at church this Sunday and ask Mary to intercede for you.

regarding (((exorcist type)))  father Gary Banks, the subject of the movie The Rite , not directed by a jew, is another exorcist…one with the mannerisms of Mr. Rogers. 

now, lets look at your rebuttal of me.


It is not a rebuttal on the merits, it is a scream of rage.

you lose; up your game.


cordially


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Posted by timothy murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:50 | #

@thorn


when you get to the discussion on ‘being’ vs ‘will’  have a look at Guessed Workers Ontological Project and the diagram posted there.

The insight from Jones on that metaphysical distinction cuts like a knife to the heart of many matters.

Regarding “The Will”, Malachi Martin’s book Hostage to the Devil the Chapter on Mr. Natch and Dr. Bones ...ends with..the will,  the will, the will…


cordially


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Posted by timothy murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 03:03 | #

Al

what is EGI?

And in light of GuessedWorkers interview with TANSTAAFL, where ‘white’ to German means Polish plumbers banging German daughters, why do you insist on the term?

Granted, it is useful in biological terms, but as a unifying force against the Universal Plague Of Man, it is a Category of the Mind and a trap.

Biological diversity vs its enemy works in both biological and Christian ontologies.

Also

Shakespeare was Catholic…..just to piss you off..
you starvelling, you elf-skin, you dried neat’s-tongue, bull’s-pizzle!


cordially

 

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 03:26 | #

Timothy , thanks for the further expression of your impregnable intellectually untenable stand.

I believe that I had previously mentioned that I was possessed by the Devil , a creation of your (((Deity))) .  So perhaps we are closer than you might care to admit.

Ha ha !  Shakespeare was a Christian because that Jewish heresy was compulsory in witch - burning times.  What the Bard believed in his little heart of hearts is unknown to us.

I believe that Boris Johnson wrote a biography of Shakespeare but I would hesitate to peruse it as it is not academically respectable. 

It is not my role to educate stupid Americans on EGI , but nevertheless , here goes : 

  A Truck Driver from Australia sounds forth :

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6qrfsYem8


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 03:44 | #

Thank you , Timothy , re candle - lighting , I appreciate your concern for my soul , but I suspect the hyperdulia - directed ignition may be too late and , as you know , I am too polite to suggest an alternative use of your candle , fundamentally speaking.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 04:18 | #

Timothy , every time you employ the word ” intellectual”, the quotidian , everyday truck stop discourse, in your defence of the ancient ‘Jewish Invisible Deity” , please substitute it with the rational , correct and condign word,  ” Chimerical.”

As in , many Intellectuals ( CS Lewis , JRR Tolkien et al ) believed in Chimera.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 05:04 | #

  #37 . Every Sunday , you will get to the meat of the matter .

An RC Priest’s fingers will place a Jewish body upon your tongue , and down the red lane the wafered Jew will go .

Until the Jew emerges from your bowels and shows you what He truly is, if you can stand the smell prior to flushing.

And that is the Bottom Line for Christianity.
 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:05 | #

Re Shakespeare

In the same spirit that led St. Nicholas Owen to build “priest-holes” to hide Catholic priests from the anti-Catholic authorities in Shakespeare’s England, Shakespeare wrote The Winter’s Tale to conceal an extensive Catholic allegory about the trials and hopes of his fellow Catholics under the reign of King James I. This short article cannot come close to describing even half of the details of this allegory, but it should be enough to convince most serious readers that Shakespeare left us a remarkably devout plea to make England Catholic again.


https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/6678-the-winter-s-tale-shakespeare-s-plea-to-make-england-catholic-again

The wonderful thing about E. Michael Jones’ book is that he enables us to place the above within a philosophical context.  The above happened because of flawed thinking.

It will take some reads of the book to be able to fluently articulate exactly the what and why of the thinking, but it is now seen.

What was done, can be undone. I expect it will be.

Al, your recourse to insult is literally all you have. There is no “there” in your intellect; you constantly hide behind better minds of your peoples rather than venture and debate on the merits.

The Scholastics had a principle that is very useful . Before discussing a thing, seek to understand that thing on the author’s terms, not our own.
Only when you can argue his case better than he can should you begin to comment on his case.

This is a discipline you do not have. 

 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:17 | #

Regarding EGI

Thank you for the link.

I assume it stands for Ethnic Genetic Interests.

Thinking as a materialist, and listening to about 40 seconds of the video, I guess you are looking for the “switch” to code for ethnic altruism in order to preserve your ethnicity.

It will be interesting to see if this bears fruit.

I will keep an ear and eye open in the future.

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:23 | #

found the abstract.

Abstract
Biological theories of the origin of heroism in warfare and other types of altruism directed towards the tribe or ethnic group have often attributed this to some adaptive function, such as retention of group resources. However, without an estimate of the aggregate kinship at stake within the group, no theory of altruism can be tested using W. D. Hamilton’s rule for adaptive altruism. By “adaptive”, Hamilton meant evolutionarily stable, such that the altruist’s genes are not selected out of the gene pool. Though Hamilton’s 1975 model showed that ethnic kinship could theoretically be large, no evolutionary theory has yet answered the most basic question, whether in fact ethnic kinship—the genetic similarity of co-ethnics who are not genealogical kin—is ever large enough to make ethnic altruism adaptive.
Harpending (2002) derived a population-genetic formula for estimating the aggregate ethnic kinship held by one population in relation to another based on the genetic distance between the two populations. The genetic assay data needed to make this estimate for modern ethnic groups are becoming available. The data used in this present study are provided by Cavalli-Sforza et al. (1994). Based on those data, aggregate ethnic kinship is much larger than aggregate family kinship. Data on tribal genetic distance are uncertain. But existing evidence indicates that tribal genetic interests vis a vis neighbouring tribes in the Neolithic were already larger than familial kinship. The direction of theory and data strongly indicate that self sacrificial altruism in warfare could have been adaptive from that time.
The Hamilton-Harpending algorithm offers an analytical tool for estimating whether a population was (or is) a fit object for altruism, and thus whether that altruism was (or is) sustainable across evolutionary time.

That’s kind of funny.
This is the materialists looking to explain the biological mechanism of the virtue of heroism.

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 17:00 | #

That’s kind of funny.
This is the materialists looking to explain the biological mechanism of the virtue of heroism.

That went a mile over Al’s head.

On the same general topic, I really enjoyed reading (I’m quite sure you experience the same) the way E Michael Jones exposed Yuval Noah Harari as the intellectual deviant that he is. He went step by step through Harari’s book: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind and ripped all the theses he presented to shreds.

The bottom line is human nature is way too complex to be subject to reductionism. But that doesn’t stop the “New Atheists” aka “the brights” (now there’s a prime example of an oxymoron, lol) from trying.


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Posted by timothy murray on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:05 | #

Hi Thorn

I was a bit too quick with my snark from a scientific perspective. Charles Murray wrote a book, The Moral Sense, that is to this day admirable and important.  The bulk of science and the most interesting part is the incremental things such as in the link Al provided and the work Murray has done.

The scientists Al linked to, are working on the legitimacy of a model of measurement .

That alone is enough. That alone is noble.

to put my perspective in context,  In the Kitchen of La Gavoroche

the dishwasher is absolutely essential AND the late Albert Roux, one of the two brothers who created the restaurant* , and the creators of La Cuisine Nouvelle** , a Catholic, is the God Father of his dishwashers child.

That! is the beauty of the Faith. A preeminent chef , a Catholic, is a brother in Christ to his dishwasher.

This! is who we are.


Al lacks Chef Albert Roux’s greatness and humility.

Tiresome


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Posted by timothy murray on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:57 | #

Hi Thorn

Regarding Jones carpet bombing of that scrawny jew…yes. It takes a Christian to properly skewer the enemies of Christ.

Yet, I am cautious…perhaps you can help me here in tightening up this language…


In his admirably merciless flaying of the jewish twerp,
Jones places Philosophy above Science…but, rightly understood, Philosophy is science.

Logic, a flower of #Logos, is the presupposition of science…

Logic therefore*, presupposes Philosophy..

The underlying presupposition of all we do is order, and a presumption of the intelligibilty of ...(need a good word here..)..reality.

Jones ‘always’ argues from the philosophical presuppositions.

I am nervous about accepting Jones’ assumptions as my own even though I think they are correct (Computer programmer is one of my trades and the best , most meticulous way to write correct code is to question one’s own thinking…“why am I thinking this way”  , “why am I presuming that my thoughts accurately reflect what it is what I see before me”, “what am I seeing” , ” What, Clarice, is this thing, what is its nature…” ,  “what other models ofbthough am I unaware of”...This attitude I have found…to date..is the progenitor of correctness, creativity, collegiality and wonderful friendships. We learn.  As from a Father to His children, guiding them to maturity…

The obvious point to test is the reliance on The First Mover…i.e the philosophical expression of the existence of God.


I have not , nor do I have the time at the moment to do so, read the rebuttals to the First Mover .

Have you?

God bless!

 


* Assuming it is not a typo, Jones, in a chapter subsequent to Hegel, writes..“The Law of Contradiction”  ...the inversion of ~(p & ~p) which is the beautiful!!! symbolic logic expression of “The Law of Non Contradiction)


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:13 | #

Tim,

Materialists believe man doesn’t really possess free will, rather our choices are controlled by a series of chemical reactions triggered by the surrounding environment. Materialist atheists believe the main difference between animals and humans is only a matter of complexity of brain function. They practically rely solely on Darwin’s Theory of Evolution as their explanation for the difference. They completely rule out that there is a supernatural creator (what we call God) involved in the process. That’s why material atheists could not grasp why you, a believer in a divine creator, the humor you (and I) find in their attempts at explaining how the virtue of heroism evolved in humans.

I am nervous about accepting Jones’ assumptions as my own even though I think they are correct

E. Michael Jones is a smart well educated man but his perspective is just that: his perspective, his own informed opinion. Moreover, Jones has his own agenda that he wants to influence others with. However, nobody is infallible, he too is very flawed. Therefore, it’s wise to proceed with caution whilst listening to or reading any expert’s opinions.


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:18 | #

Timothy , your source of pseudo intellectual satisfaction , E. Michael Jones should champion devout Roman Catholicism agin the Scots/Irish staunch Protestantism of the Oxford Professor ,  John Lennox.

At least these Christian doctorate - holders won’t bomb each other like the Northern Irish RC’s and Protestants did , a hellish time which convinced bystanders that when it comes to Christianity : ” It’s a load of shit , when you think of it”.

In my not so humble opinion Jones and RCism will win for the simple reason , oft mentioned in MBA courses , viz., First Mover Advantage .  ” God spoke to we RCs first , so there, you Proddy dogs.”

  Yes , yes I know , (((God))) instituted the RC Church and the Protestant dissenters’ denominations were man made.  What a boring subject.


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:20 | #

Thorn , your comment may be considered rubbish but we must be tolerant , we all want to hear Timothy’s rubbish too .


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:06 | #

Al Ross aka Al Goldstein


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:58 | #

Al

Lennox is not you. Lennox does not sneer nor does he pose as above it all. He is a kind man who debates on the merits.

Lennox is awesome;  I would love to debate him on the subject of Protestantism and listen to him on his mathematics.

He is a compatriot of 7/10’th’s athiest Dawkins, noting Dawkins obsession with the problem of evil. Thankfully, resolving that question has converted a lot of former atheists…C.S. Lewis for example.

In his interview with Behe, and Meyer, Meyer stated that Dawkins was absolutely deflated by the compexity and function of some junk DNA, to a nod of Lennox’ head.

It was a wild ride, but TENS is dead as is the Enlightenment that spawned it.

What comes next will not be lead by statisticians debating the applicability of a measurement to a supposed genetic disposition to heroism.

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 22:59 | #

Lennox is not you. Lennox does not sneer nor does he pose as above it all. He is a kind man who debates on the merits.

Excellent job putting Al in his place as the petulant child that he is.

Kudos!


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 08:59 | #

@58 The likelihood of of my believing anything Timothy Murray writes about invisible spooks , or much else for that matter , is similar to that of Elon Musk’s applying for a pay day loan.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 09:19 | #

@56 What a silly wee boy you are .

  Japan is awash with pornography and that “Lucky Country” , to borrow a descriptor from Oz, ( despite being nuked by crazed , Jew - stampeded Americans ) has no discernable Kike influence.

You Christian dolts are supposed to resist your God’s creation , Satan , not succumb to His terrestrial racial cognate’s erotic, televisual blandishments.

@57 I have just realised that I am not John Lennox , so thanks for that . But wait , your God can do absolutely anything so should I be terrified of waking up tomorrow morning with an Ulster accent and my Reason in abeyance ?


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:18 | #

@58

But Tim’s best description of Al is this:

Dear Al
You bear the halmarks of a possesed man.

Indeed he does. When Jesus name is brought up, Psycho Al reacts with more head moves than Linda Blair.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:40 | #

@61 You see , that right there gives your Supernatural - based, Exorcist , nonsense away .  ” Possessed” ?  (((William Friedkin))) ? Head Revolving ?  Anyway , the entire load of manure for morons was concocted by a Lebanese author.

Next thing you’ll be telling me is that that donkeys can converse .  I’ve read about Ballam’s ass, and you are the Tim’s Eeyore . With you folks we don’t need AA Milne’s Winnie , you provide the ever - evil - smelling Judeo/Christian poo.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:26 | #

@61 You see , that right there gives your Supernatural - based, Exorcist , nonsense away .  ” Possessed” ?  (((William Friedkin))) ? Head Revolving ?  Anyway , the entire load of manure for morons was concocted by a Lebanese author.

Al never looks at the merits and ever dismisses as anti-intellectual nonsense the claims of faith and reason.

Fr. Chad Ripperger is a Thomistic scholar, has written a first edition inverting Freud’s inversion of the human soul and placing Psychology on Thomistic Philosophy…i.e. the heir to the ancient Greek.
He is also a massively popular and practicing exorcist.

If you are going to rebuke, Al, know the material. You are arguing from your own worldview, from whatever damned philosophy shaped you.
If you cannot rebuke on the merits, then do not comment on the matter.

 

 

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:38 | #

Timothy ,I have in the past considered the merits of the Supernatural.  I read every Dennis Wheatley ( RC ) novel at a suitably impressionable prep school age.

Terrestrially , there are the obvious societal advantages of a double digit IQ population believing , as you profess to do, in a superimposed Jewish Celestial reward.

There is , and has been , much social utility in this Bible - based, peasant - bait fiction.

So , as God would say , if He were a reasonable English Aryan MCC member , instead of a vengeful Yid :  “Well . old chap , here it is , here we are , and there you have it , what?”


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 16:54 | #

Tim,

HEH! Aren’t atheists “The Brights” an amazing lot? The common trait I see in most of them is they are very full of themselves. They think they’re too smart, too sophisticated to fall for that “supernational” tripe. That “supernatural” stuff is for ppl with low IQ; it’s deceitfully used as a means of control of the masses by their “betters” don’t-cha-know.

As I’ve said previously, I went through my atheist stage during my teen years. Thank God I was smart enough to seriously start questioning the origins of the Big Bang Theory. That questioning led into an exercise of infinite regress. Out of that resulted in my rejection of atheism and back to the belief that God as the First Cause. Logically, belief in a divine creator (GOD) by far makes the most sense. OTOH, to believe all creation came out of nothing ex nihilo (which atheists base their religion on) is the most illogical belief system out there. So why are atheists so illogical? My theory is they 1.) (Probably through no fault of their own, i.e., it’s genetic) are intellectually deficient - particularly when it comes to abstract reasoning. or 2. They’ve experienced psychologically damaged via a traumatic event caused by someone associated with the Church, a sexual molestation, for example. I think most atheists fit into the first category. I suspect Angry Al (poor chap) fits into the second - but more likely both.  In any event, and quite frankly, most atheists (not all, e.g., GW) behave like obstinate ideologues with overinflated egos.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 00:17 | #

@65 I know what you and TM like most about being Christians . It’s knowing the answers to all the difficult questions

Is there a God ?  Yes.  Is there Life after Death ?  Of Course.

Non - religious people don’t know the answers to those questions.  Ha ha , the fools .

Strictly speaking , you don’t know the answers either , you just believe them.  Ah , but that’s where Faith comes into it   You can convince yourselves that what you believe constitutes knowledge.

So Faith just means pretending ?  No , not just pretending - pretending really hard.
 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 12:10 | #

Hi Thorn

Terrestrially , there are the obvious societal advantages of a double digit IQ population believing , as you profess to do, in a superimposed Jewish Celestial reward.

I see it too, it troubles me and I must give it due diligence and resolve it. My current project stack is through the ceiling in my office. But it is buried in it somewhere..

I do not know if the claim originated with Revilo P. Oliver , or somebody else; Oliver is definitely a go-to guy. I have only had the time to skim some more Revilo P. Oliver, but it does not strike me as particularly good.
But, I do need to do it due diligence because the claims are so serious.  And, important if true (but they strike me as not even the level of Joseph Campbell , who also noted the similarity with Zorastrianism (jones book comes in handy here too…he puts the idea in terms of the gradual emergence of Logos over History)

Some initial “apologetic” type thoughts, not answers within Mr. Oliver’s frame of thought*...


1. Christianity predates judaism and jews at two levels
a. Judaism came after the destruction of their temple, Christianity prior to it.
b. The protoevangelicum predates the jews (a counter-argument is that the jews wrote Genesis…so b is a weak argument unless the book predates the creation of the jewish people)
c. still, the examples in the bible give great weight to the observations that the behaviours of the universal plague of mankind predates Jones’ assertion that their rejection of Christ created the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. Until reconciled, I think this obviates Jones’ thesis. Any links to jones discussing the issue would be appreciated.

2. The glee of Eusebius at the destruction of the jews and the pre-modernist manfulness of the Catholic Church in dealing with them.
a. the above supports my hunch is that this recent(?) feebleness before them is a result of the changes in philosophical thought brought about by the Enlightenment era or soon before it.
b. the existence of Jones and his forthrightness

Granted, books can be and probably have been written about my initial assumptions, but there it is.

cordially


*Note the ambiguity in my use of the word “Judaism” above. That too is a broad topic. I have seen but not read that Oliver destroyed the Khazaarian (?) theory of jewish origins.
The term intersects biological, religious and cultural realms. If the intersection of those three (we all see the poison of the jews) can come to a common strategy and usage of terms, then
we will have done something useful here.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 12:23 | #

Hi Al

Ron Unz hosts a wonderful essay Laurent Guyenot on Byzantine Revisionism https://www.unz.com/article/byzantine-revisionism-unlocks-world-history/. It is a wonderful read and it directly challenges the claims the Catholic (Western) Church makes on some important matters.

I find it fascinating because in the mil-blogs comment sections I pay attention to, I have encountered hatred for both Anglo-Saxons and Rome from people in the Russian landmass orbit. These same sentiments are expressed in the linked article. 

If you want me to shut up, start righting stuff like Guyenot wrote and I will not comment as I will be gladly observing and learning.

I doubt you have it in you.

Links to the emergence and development of a credible method for measuring the strength between familial and ethnic influence on the virtue of heroism is not an impressive argument technique; it is rather a manner of
deflection from your obvious deficiencies.  (Your repeated claims to being under your masters wings,  your associations with great universities, your resort to insult and the now near-famous AL-link to elsewhere are all means of avoiding argument on the merits. I run into this sort of behaviour with third rate computer programmers (and from other realms) quite frequently. Unfortunately you are undermining your own credibility)).

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 12:27 | #

@66

Logic is not Al’s forte. I mention this on the remote possibility that you haven’t realized his limited power to reason. The poor chap doesn’t even realize that he’s as “faithful” as any Christian. I.e. if the existence of God cannot be “proved”, by the same logic it cannot be disproved. Al is conceivably intelligent enough to understand this. (Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt.) Instead, he relies on “evidence” of his own making which proves that a God - particularly the God of the Christian Bible - does not exist. The funny thing is this obnoxious atheist doesn’t realize that he is a person of “faith.” He has “faith” that God does not exist, as he can never “prove” the contrary. All he can do is console his “demon possessed” grey matter with “evidence” of what he thinks is.

Does anyone want to take on the task of converting him to reason and logic? Good luck.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:00 | #

Al you have bumped into a good question…..a question over definitions…the most important kind.

Strictly speaking , you don’t know the answers either , you just believe them.  Ah , but that’s where Faith comes into it   You can convince yourselves that what you believe constitutes knowledge.

So Faith just means pretending ?  No , not just pretending - pretending really hard.

Thank you Al for finally asking a question instead of resorting to insult, braggadocio and redirection.

Faith just means pretending ?  No , not just pretending - pretending really hard.

 


YES!!!!  YES!!!!  YES!!!! YES!!!!  YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!! 

IF  you are Lutheran/Baptist.

To make it worse, if you do not pretend hard enough then you will go to hell and be excluded from the Southern Baptist Barbeques.

  I know first-hand because I used to be one before I abandoned “Christianity” because it was so fscking stupid and anti-intellectual and because I decided to live in truth and integrity
to never lie to myself and to be able to lay on my death-bed in good conscience knowing that I I had lived bravely**. 

Luther is called a heretic for a reason.

Luther was anti-reason. Thorn can confirm when he gets to Jones chapters on Hegel and Luther. (you should read the book too. its thesis will emerge into culture over the decades..it is that important a book)

From my Spirago Catechism is this definition of faith: Faith is belief in the revealed Truths of God. 

It is that simple.

Furthermore, and a big reason why I am at my new home in the Catholic church, is that Faith and Reason are not at war, rather they cannot contradict (absent the modernist heretics within her). True, the supernatural is bigger than we are and our reason may be baffled by a truth that we have no reference for (like the Earth orbiting about the Sun, or The Geological Time Scale, or The Big Bang, or the Byzantian Revisionism I commented on above)  but when we/I hit that, I proceed in trust, usually with a lot of “what the heck?” .

I do this because I believe in God and have learned, am learning to trust in His benevolence…the same God who created Nature Red in Tooth and Claw and the problem of evil….
I believe in God because I believe in God. That belief, that revelation, precedes the religion and the practices.
The religion and practices bring order and depth to the Faith.

That said, if another does not have that belief, I would be aghast and offended if they pretended.


cordially


*This is one reason why I suspect that the wobbliness and outright capitulation and servitude to the jews by “christianity” is a Protestant/Enlightenment phenomenon. Note that I wrote “suspect” not “know”


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:20 | #

“a. Judaism came after the destruction of their temple, Christianity prior to it.”

This may help clear things up?

Originally, Jewish scholarship was oral and transferred from one generation to the next. Rabbis expounded and debated the Torah (the written Torah expressed in the Hebrew Bible) and discussed the Tanakh without the benefit of written works (other than the Biblical books themselves), though some may have made private notes (megillot setarim), for example, of court decisions. This situation changed drastically due to the Roman destruction of the Jewish commonwealth and the Second Temple in the year 70 and the consequent upheaval of Jewish social and legal norms. As the rabbis were required to face a new reality—mainly Judaism without a Temple (to serve as the center of teaching and study) and total Roman control over Judaea, without at least partial autonomy—there was a flurry of legal discourse and the old system of oral scholarship could not be maintained. It is during this period that rabbinic discourse began to be recorded in writing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

“I have seen but not read that Oliver destroyed the Khazaarian (?) theory of jewish origins.”

I recall Razib Kahn @ his Gene Expressions website posted his analysis of the genetic makeup of the Ashkenazim (European Jews) he found the Ashkenazim are in fact Middle Eastern/East-European hybrids. But that really doesn’t matter.  With all the intermarriages and conversions etc. that occurred between Jews and Gentiles over the last two millennia, the Jews have become a very mixed lot.  They’re represented in all races, ethnicities and mixtures thereof. In today’s terms, Jews are no longer a cohesive tribe, race, or religion; they are an identity.

.

WHO/WHAT IS A JEW?

http://holywar.org/jewishtr/14who.htm


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:39 | #

Hi Thorn

thx

Maybe I should have used the term ‘talmudism’ , but I am not sure.

It merits careful study and I do not have time for it at the moment…rather, I have more important things to study.

Also history is not my strong-suit and never will be. I was a math tutor to a history major once and I knew then that I would never be good at history.
Just as there are natural athletes, so there are natural historians and my student was one of them.


cordially.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:48 | #

The Ukrainians have not employed the new Western equipment in their flanking action.  They are fighting with the usual Soviet-era equipment.  But they are pouring in their best people to the offensive, just as the best Russian units are invested in taking full control within the town.  This little, ruined place has become much more than a local hotspot.  With the Russians turning to defence almost everywhere else along the front, and the Ukrainians preparing and preparing all over again for their main counter-offensive, the war is narrowing down to what happens here, and the stakes for both sides are rising.  The Ukrainians are manifestly intending to encircle the Russians in the town, cut off their ammunition supply, and force a Russian turning action or a surrender.  If that comes to pass Russian morale will collapse everywhere, and the main Ukrainian counter-offensive will be massively advantaged.  The Ukrainians have four to six weeks to make it work.

This hasn’t aged well. 

On a darker note, Michael Yon is chronicling the tri-cities op in the netherlands and the current chinese invasion along the open continental U.S. southern border.
The illegal cluster bomb shipments by the neocons (when did law ever matter to a jew?) are, according to Scott Ritter, needed because the ammunition stockpiles of that caliber missile are depleted.

So, if I am Chinese and am planning on my own “Heartland Theory” model of conquering the world, my silk-and-road from China to the Tri-Cities that used to be Dutch farmland proceeds against a decimated NATO.  I can also open a domestic front on the Southern flank of the U.S. while capturing the Panama canal.
The U.S. neocons foolishly or nefariously or both have depleted and demoralized the U.S. Military.

Furthermore, the killing of the Leopords has called into question NATO’s “Tripwire” Strategy where all those tanks could buy time for troops to mass.

I hope Yon is wrong, but I think he is right.

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 23:17 | #

Maybe I should have used the term ‘talmudism’ , but I am not sure.

I’ve read that the Talmud is defined as the instuction manuel for how religious Jews should interperate the Torah.

Probably true, but I don’t give a sh-t. Judiasm has been renderd obsolete ... no longer valid.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 01:52 | #

Oh Christ, is this thread still about invisible trifecta Jew Gods ?

Soliciting advice about how to run a country, from Christians, is similar to that of a frog , on a prospective cross - lake passage ,  requesting directions from a scorpion.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 02:07 | #

TM , I have on my Kindle ,  a book , Byzantium Civilisation, by a most distinguished polyglot scholar of Byzantium , the Cantabrigian , Sir Steven Runciman . I have read it and , more importantly ,  have understood it. 

Go and do likewise.

Ron Unz cannot compete with Runciman’s genuine scholarship , but you “bumped into” a Jew on the internet and that suffices to content most Christian minds.

 


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Posted by timothy murray on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 02:42 | #

Dear Al

You you tend to redirect….peaches, other thinkers, appeals to lost glory of your people’s intellectual heritage..

Only once have you obliquilly engaged on the merits and that was on your i complete definition of ‘faith’

Enough, poser.
You are a disgrace to the Aryan race; shame, on you.


Engage   or begone.


,


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 02:45 | #

  Many American and British women from a time - honoured, Christian - driven culture now support abortion rights .  OK , well and good . Especially for Blacks ( sorry (((Jesus))) )

  Meanwhile , the dizzy female progeny of the erstwhile Christian West insouciantly terminate a future financially dependent womb presence while encouraging the racially alien, illegal immigrants to become immediate beneficiaries of taxpayers’ unwilling largesse .

The root cause of this ridiculous anomaly is ” love for all humanity” , the suicidally insane, Christian anti - White decider in matters of nations and peoples.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 03:09 | #

” Engage or Begone ” ?  I like it . did an Angel whisper it in your shell - like ear while you hesitated to chew down the wafer version of Yahweh’s son, thus delaying a confirmation of endocannibalism as one of your obscene and corrupt rituals , sorry intrinsic beliefs and values.

Speaking of Angels , you have got to watch out for them , despite their going out of Christian fashion ( to the point of being theological non - persons , ha ha ) .

This is because, when you head for the Pearly Gates ( so garish , these Jews ) a recording Angel will consult his laptop to ascertain whether or not you have been a good Goy .

You might consider converting to Islam , a post - mortem San Francisco , as , I think ,  Jew Heaven is a no - sex zone , apart from the homoerotic act of embracing a bearded Saviour, which, admittedly , many these days may profess to enjoy.
 


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 04:08 | #

TM , ” lost glory ” ?

Strangely enough , I think I know what you mean .  That is to say, the Oxford / Cambridge intellectual axis was , of course, founded by pious Christians ( many pre - Reformation , does the Old Jew God count them? ) .  Maybe (((He)) does because He infected the World with the Aids virus of Catholicism and Luther tried to be Dr Fauci.

But overall , these Universities prized Intellect above Faith (much like the ancient Greeks and Romans whose template they followed )and many dons politely attended Chapel while holding their Reason in abeyance.

When Churchill College , Cambridge, was founded , the planning of a Chapel was vociferously opposed by a non - Heaven bound , English scientist and “founder Fellow ” , Francis Crick , ( you Yanks have heard of DNA discovery, right ? ) .  Prof. Crick , at a meeting of the pre - Churchill College planning council was surprised to hear that finance would be allocated for a Chapel .

” I’d rather vote for a brothel” , said the great man.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 04:13 | #

  Erratum .  Pre should do duty as post


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 05:50 | #

It’s fortunate for you , TM , that intelligent Aryans will not turn up in Heaven to challenge your ” flawless logic.”

Posthumously , you can be a part of the audience of St Francis , whom I believe preached to a bird - brained congregation.

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 11:18 | #

Here’s an American Christian classic , TM :    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmp3TF1DFZ8

And here is the Scottish version :    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAiIkBS0ECk


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:05 | #

@ 83

The Scottish Version.

LOL

Buffoon.

Typical of the Scottish. Cheap f-ckers too..


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Mon, 17 Jul 2023 14:14 | #

In discovering DNA, Crick uncovered the information revolution that has killed TENS .
God does have a sense of humor; centuries of work to prove God does not exist is undone by the man who discovered DNA.
Its rather like the steady-state universe people getting walloped by the big bang.

Now, we have E. Michael Jones re-establishing the primacy of proper philosophy in a new generation of smart men. Smart men who where the victims
of some terrible philosophy. Smart men with an axe to grind.

We also have something new…the (((cosmopolitan elite))) have a militant Christian cosmopolitanism rising in opposition.
Archbishop Carlos Maria Vigano has called for the creation of global parallel structures to combat the globalists.
Putin’s (Dugins? ) deft creation of BRICS+ and the groundwork for a gold-based money is an example of this and is a dagger to the heart of the enemy.

I have all this beauty, purpose and hope . Plus the laughs as the materialist project turns to dust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by timothy murray on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 03:03 | #

Its funny watching Al revert to a stereotype.

I lit a candle at the basillica yesterday. Last week’s was specifically for you.


Yesterday was for anybody that Mary or Jesus saw fit.

You, Al, as you watch your turds swirl in your contempt for reality, know that you are flushing God’s love for you with them.


Know also that Christendom is reasserting itself and that your precious materialistic pieties are dead.

you have lost.

This makes me happy.


I quite enjoy destroying your type. It is not at all like squashing bugs
or stepping on worms…life is precious and wonderous;  a proper humility is awestruck by what God has wrought…and I hate death.

You , Al, are no exception, your immortal soul is precious yet you have free willl ( an honest materialist will rebuke the delusion that is free will, but you, an idiot, are a conniver, not a man) But , this is a war after all and you , less than a worm, are a zed.


Worms I do not hold in contempt, but you materialists , I do. You are a special breed of stupid…the best among you ignorant and unimaginative.

Create for us, Al,  oh god of the west, of the Aryan West , RNA, or better, any variant of cell.

You cannot. You never will. You are impotent.

You, who’s Island has been conquered by The Universal Plague of Man, lecture me on your greatness.

Your cheap, tiresome, pathetic habit of redirecting to your idea of authority rather than having the balls to argue on the merits was quite typical among the cheap barflys I have had the unfortunate experience of sitting next to at the bar.

The barmaids still hold you in contempt.


I am quite enjoying the clarity ; you are dead already.


#LogosRising

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 12:53 | #

What do you think, Thorn

1. Will the globalists succeed in escalating to global war?

2. Will they try and fail, finally meeting justice in international, non-western tribunals?

3. Will the peoples of the nations that they “control” turn on them and kill them first?

I tend to this author’s point of view.
They goal is to kill the goyim by any means necessary and/or available which means an attempt at option 1 and then 2 and 3 in short enough order.

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:48 | #

1. Will the globalists succeed in escalating to global war?

Tim,

I think it has already escalated to global war.

But the more important question is: Will the West’s provocation of Russia escalate to the point of a nuclear war? I’m afraid it will. In fact it looks likely.

What has come out of this NATO meeting is the West is escalating the war with Russia. They are expanding the “sharing” of nuclear weapons at the request of Poland, which has always been rejected previously. This means that any nation with F35 and F16 will have available to them nuclear weapons. This is why Russia has warned that handing Ukraine F16s will mean that they must now assume they could be carrying nuclear weapons, and rightly so for Ukraine is driven by its hatred and is by no means a responsible nation-state. NATO knows that.

read more….

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/nato-escalates-nuclear-war/


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:46 | #

looks like the link is paywalled.

I found it here, though: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/07/18/nato-escalates-nuclear-war/

Just a few tactical nukes in specific zip-codes will end the jews who create these wars.

cordially

 

 

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:34 | #

I think we are in a new phase….in the meta-war that has been playing out for decades.

Remember some years back when the following movies appeared in close order?

The 300
The Passion of the Christ
The Lord of the Rings
(all mocked by the jews)


That was God reminding us who He is and who we are and who we serve.

Jim Caveziel , who has suffered prorfessionaly because of his work with Mel Gibson on The Passion of the Christ has
opened a new phase in the unveiling…

https://gab.com/Zakford/posts/110719814936296966

It is the realization of the nature of the enemy that we are to fight.
His movie is sold-out despite repression by the jews.

cordially,

t

 

 

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 01:11 | #

@84 Scottish cheap ?  You really are a know nothing nitwit , but of course you are a Christian.

  Alexander Hamilton , a Scot , was the First Secretary of the US Treasury, when America was a fiscally prudent nation.

You fat Americans have racked up more debt , both household and governmental than can ever be repaid.  You folks are crazy.

But wait , there is a Biblical solution for the ” In God We Trust” mental defectives. Namely , a debt - forgiveness Jubilee .

  So follow your own Jew Book and do likewise .    Oh no .  Disaster !  The Jubilee only applies to Old Testament Jews.

Wake up and smell the matzos , moron.


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Posted by timothy murray on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 01:20 | #

insult
reference to somebody of note in lieu of a response on the merits
point and shriek
Blame God
Pretend some theological insight
insult.


darvo in 3.2.1….

 

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 01:39 | #

  Merits of what ?

Thorn’s intellectual arguments ?  Don’t foist your childhood - blighted God nonsense on anyone unless you identify another naive ” mark”  like Thorn.

You rote - learned ” refutation” is worthy of a door - to - door Mormon .

Go and memorise some more “zingers” in lieu of true wit and mental ability.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 03:54 | #

@92 When you visit your (((Holy Land))) will you kiss the wall while wearing a yarmulke , like all your recent your Presidents did ?

It’s really atrocious how the Chinese have influenced America .

But , no matter .


Even if Biden hosted a much desired White House visit from the Chinese Head of State and the Beijing leader bowed the knee and said :

  “Ihank you America , Beacon of Freedom , we will now follow your perfect Democracy and adopt and adapt your wonderful system ( of letting Niggers , Homosexuals and Marxist/Feminist defective females ) be in charge , you, Biden , would still wish to eliminate economic competition.

So fuck off, Americans.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 03:58 | #

“Ha ha . ”  Bowed the knee is a portmanteau term.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:20 | #

  Merits of what ?

Thorn’s intellectual arguments ?  Don’t foist your childhood - blighted God nonsense on anyone unless you identify another naive ” mark”  like Thorn.
You rote - learned ” refutation” is worthy of a door - to - door Mormon .

Go and memorise some more “zingers” in lieu of true wit and mental ability.

Has studied nothing.
Belittles instead of refutes.
To keep up the pretense of intellectual and cultural superiority, he insists the reader “do something” . in this example, “go and memorise” . The usual command is to follow a link.
Very brittle.

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:44 | #

@92 When you visit your (((Holy Land))) will you kiss the wall while wearing a yarmulke , like all your recent your Presidents did ?
It’s really atrocious how the Chinese have influenced America .
But , no matter .

Even if Biden hosted a much desired White House visit from the Chinese Head of State and the Beijing leader bowed the knee and said :
  “Ihank you America , Beacon of Freedom , we will now follow your perfect Democracy and adopt and adapt your wonderful system ( of letting Niggers , Homosexuals and Marxist/Feminist defective females ) be in charge , you, Biden , would still wish to eliminate economic competition.

So fuck off, Americans.

The author has not recognized , and more importantly, failed to enjoy the humor of it all ,  that Russia, China, Syria and Iran (with others to follow) are now in power and surround the jews in what they once claimed as their own land. This astounding self-own because of the jewish neocons being jews.

The author has not read Eusebius nor others who properly recognize that the jew is now just another goyim.
Granted, he does not want to , but like a sub-wit, he insists on denigrating that which he has refused to understand.

Having lost the Russian war, the Anglo-Saxon , like his neocon masters, shifts his focus to the Chinese.
Lashing out at others after the Leopards are now cheap trophy kills for russian tank commanders , the much hyped Stormy Daniels missiles from England have extracted zero damage
and after the Russians target NATO command and control in Ukraine and kill it with hypersonic missiles , it is apparent that the author lacks the discipline of conforming his mind to reality.

The author is locked, mind you, locked, into the failed paradigms of the philosophical fraud that was “The Englightenment” and, like the Protestant Evangelicals in America,  lacks the courage, stamina, imagination,
to see the birth of something great.

Most surprising is that the author has not figured out that the (((American))) government is not of the American peoples. Most of the American peoples have. Maybe it is because the author is a subject and cannot fathom the responsibility of freedom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 13:11 | #

Oddball Al strikes again! He writes:

”@84 Scottish cheap ?  You really are a know nothing nitwit , but of course you are a Christian.

  Alexander Hamilton , a Scot , was the First Secretary of the US Treasury, when America was a fiscally prudent nation.”

Ironic how the stinky little dipshit uses Alexander Hamiliton as his ‘Scottish’ exemplar. 

A few pertinent facts: 

Hamilton was born and spent part of the early part of his childhood in Charlestown, the capital of the island of Nevis in the British Leeward Islands. Hamilton and his older brother James Jr.[6] were born out of wedlock to Rachel Faucette, a married woman of half-British and half-French Huguenot descent,[c][15] and James A. Hamilton, a Scotsman who was the fourth son of Alexander Hamilton, the laird of Grange, Ayrshire

The Church of England denied membership and education to Alexander and James Jr. because their parents were not legally married. While their mother was living, they received individual tutoring[2] and classes in a private school led by a Jewish headmistress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton#Early_life_and_education

LOL ..... tutored by jews!!!

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:44 | #

Blinken, the Posthuman Diplomat

{snip}

While preparing for the pending Biden campaign in 2019, Blinken co-wrote with Robert Kagan an article reasserting the standard neoconservative dogma of global interventionism: the world does not govern itself, and if “the United States abdicates its leading role in shaping international rules and institutions . . . [s]ome other power or powers will step in and move the world in ways that advance their interests and values, not ours.” That is an arrogant and patently false view of the international scene because the U.S. has been the greatest generator of instability and conflict since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Lest we forget, Kagan was the coauthor—with William Kristol—of the seminal neoconservative manifesto “Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy,” published in 1996 by Foreign Affairs. Kagan is also the husband of Victoria Nuland, a Russophobic hawk who—as assistant secretary of state for European and Asian affairs under Obama—was directly involved in stage-managing the Maidan coup against the government of Ukraine in 2014. Seven years later, Blinken chose Nuland as his undersecretary for political affairs, the second most important position at the State Department. It’s a tightly-knit community inside the Beltway.

Working in tandem, Blinken and Nuland strove relentlessly to goad Vladimir Putin into war in Ukraine. In December 2021, they rejected his final demand for a binding set of security guarantees from the West—a pledge that there would be no further eastward expansion of NATO and that offensive missile systems would be removed from Russia’s borders. At the same time, contrary to logic and foreign policy realism, Blinken has gone out of his way to alienate China.

{snip}

America’s ideological eccentricities are not confined to its failed China policy. The State Department has provided financial assistance to some 10,000 “LGBTQI human rights defenders” through its Global Equality Fund. Blinken has even created a new senior position at the State Department: a “special envoy to advance the human rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and intersex persons.”

{snip}

RTWT

https://chroniclesmagazine.org/columns/the-american-interest/blinken-the-posthuman-diplomat/


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Posted by timothy murray on Sun, 23 Jul 2023 03:01 | #

@99

Scanning Chronicles, it smells jewish.

I wanted to like it, but I get a bad vibe. 

Buckley, Strauss….etc…

By their fruits you shall know them.

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Jul 2023 11:17 | #

You’re absolutely right, Tim. The Jewish presence there is obvious and up-front. That’s why it’s always necessary to read all information through a critical lens ... no matter the source.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 24 Jul 2023 11:44 | #

On the Polish front:

Putin Warns Poland and NATO

When the NATO leaders are calling the President of Russia “mad” and “crazy”, they are clearly engaged in emotional projection. Compare the difference between the mastery of the historical aspects of the current situation by Putin with the media histrionics and the disjointed ramblings of the unelected US figurehead, Biden. It’s also clear that Putin knows who Russia’s real enemies are.

Both the Europeans and European elites see that support for Ukraine is, in fact, a dead end, an empty, endless waste of money and effort, and in fact, serving someone else’s interests, which are far from European: the interests of the overseas global hegemon, which benefits from the weakening of Europe. The endless prolongation of the Ukrainian conflict is also beneficial to it.

Judging by the actual state of affairs, this is exactly what today’s US ruling elites are doing. Anyways, this is the logic they follow. It is largely questionable whether such a policy is in line with the American people’s true, vital interests; this is a rhetorical question, and it is up to them to decide.

However, massive efforts are being taken to stoke the fire of war – including by exploiting the ambitions of certain East European leaders, who have long turned their hatred for Russia and Russophobia into their key export commodity and a tool of their domestic policy. And now they want to capitalise on the Ukrainian tragedy. {snip}

RTWT https://voxday.net/2023/07/23/putin-warns-poland-and-nato/


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 24 Jul 2023 21:04 | #

SPEECH BY PRIME MINISTER VIKTOR ORBÁN AT THE 32ND BÁLVÁNYOS SUMMER FREE UNIVERSITY AND STUDENT CAMP
22/07/2023
SOURCE: CABINET OFFICE OF THE PRIME MINISTER

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen, Dear Summer Camp.

We have arrived here after advancing through the Romanian troops. But we would prefer to see them as a welcoming committee, and we have good reason for that: in our European struggle for Christianity, we weakened Latin Christians will also need Romanian Orthodoxy. So we welcome interested Romanians who are in the audience.

RTWT

https://miniszterelnok.hu/en/speech-by-prime-minister-viktor-orban-at-the-32nd-balvanyos-summer-free-university-and-student-camp/


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Tue, 25 Jul 2023 12:06 | #

@103 Emerald Robinson emailed the text of the speech.

Wonderfully refreshing.

He is overtly Christian, and his Hungary is for the Hungarians.

Did you notice his critique of The Englightenment? Expect more of this.

On a related item somebody did a deep dive into the etymology of the word Yawheh.

The redefinition attempt was an attempted attack on “Being” , which is one of the core battlegrounds of Philosophy and this current war.

So, in summary, the three are related, the three are happening now;  WWIII is a war of Being vs Will or, for the secular minded, a war over first principles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:16 | #


https://invidious.fdn.fr/channel/UCSQAay7cW3bP9oDscFfPfAg


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:54 | #

At one level, the Ukraine op was successful.

1. The neocons successfully pulled off a color revolution
2. They killed or maimed almost 1 million Ukrainians.

Win, baby, win.

They are already rubbing their hands over a nato op.
Maybe they can kill 6 million .

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 18:13 | #

They are already rubbing their hands over a nato op.
Maybe they can kill 6 million .

I suspected from the start that Nuland and her ilk instigated this war for the underlying purpose (hidden vengeance agenda) of killing off as many white ppl/Euro-Christians as possible. If this escalates to a nuclear war it’ll be White countries incinerated. Potentially, that could very well wipe out 80 to 90% of the White race. Of course, Nuland is very well aware of that.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 19:11 | #

I suspected from the start that Nuland and her ilk instigated this war for the underlying purpose (hidden vengeance agenda) of killing off as many white ppl/Euro-Christians as possible. If this escalates to a nuclear war it’ll be White countries incinerated. Potentially, that could very well wipe out 80 to 90% of the White race. Of course, Nuland is very well aware of that.

100% agreed.


TOO has a book review that confirms TAN’s research/podcast on the Leo Frank case .

The utter contempt they have for us , their disregard for our laws and cultures, their swarming to the defense of a jew caught in a crime…its all in this fascinationg read.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2023/07/09/traditional-jewish-separatism-and-de-humanization-of-gentiles-a-review-of-stephen-blooms-postville/

My hunch is that their time is ended. The entire world now sees them and the globe is against them (minus “our” leaders).  They cannot hide anymore; they have nowhere to run too.

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 23:13 | #

From the TOO artcle you linked to: “It remains to be seen whether Jewish liberalism has a future — clearly, Hasidic Judaism does.”

I recall reading a news article some years back about the Hasidic Jews in Israel. The non-Hasidic Jews were, in no uncertain terms, complaining about how useless the Hasidim are to Israeli society. They pointed out the Hasidim refuse to participate in the defense of Israel, and basically are a drag on the economy. Without the “liberal” Jews there to defend Israel proper, the Hasidic Jews - their fecundity notwithstanding - would be virtually defenseless against their ruthless Muslim adversaries. 


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 02:00 | #

@109 Ha Ha !  ” I recall reading” ,

There are Orthodox Jews who hate the fact that Israel was stolen before the Messiah arrived to put you Christian Zionist Goyim in your Noahide Laws designated places.

While I remember , Alexander Hamilton attended St Andrews University . At that time , Scotland’s oldest university did not employ Roman Catholics , far less Jews.

  Bishop Sharp (  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Sharp_(bishop)  ) was executed in St Andrews a couple of centuries after that town’s university was founded . His Lordship’s murder was the result of the usual internecine, phantom - believing strife which plagued Europe as a result of importing Oriental belief systems from Jews.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 02:13 | #

@96 ” Insists the reader” ?

  There may be few readers since you polluted this website with the atrocious Jew despot deity with whom your defective psyche has been infected..

My name’s Timothy Murray . I will live my life in accordance with a farrago of Jew - invented mythical morals . I won’t make love to that cute girl . I won’t finish that bottle of Scotch.

I will wait till Heaven , at which time I will embrace the Boss Jew .

Now that’s using the Mutton Head all right.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 03:24 | #

TM and ThornDummy :  The bloodthirsty mania your preposterous religion has caused in Europeans has reduced their numbers , culled their most intelligent and best , has at all times acted to preserve the Jews , with whom it is now co - operating to import Third Worlders to your rotting nation.

Many instances of the One World rubbish may be gleaned from your Bible .

Your minds have been poisoned by filthy, anti - Western pro - Jewish ordure which is all Christianity is , except when liars like you try to defend the preposterous Supernatural , anti - human
menticide.

  On your death beds you will still be betrayer slaves because you cannot grapple with honesty.  Meta - physician , heal thyself.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 11:14 | #

LMAO!!!

Weird Al evokes images of a carnival freak show in which he is securely locked up in a cage, drooling, wildly screaming obscenities and throwing his own feces at the stunned and amazed onlookers. F’ing mad man.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 21:43 | #

Re The Enlightenment:

The enemy within is modern liberalism, a corrosive agent carrying a very different mood and agenda than that of classical or traditional liberalism. That the modern variety is intellectually bankrupt diminishes neither its vitality nor the danger it poses. A bankrupt philosophy can reign for centuries and, when its bankruptcy becomes apparent, may well be succeeded by an even less coherent outlook. That is what is happening to us now. Modernity, the child of the Enlightenment, failed when it became apparent that the good society cannot be achieved by unaided reason.

Slouching Towards Gomorrah Modern Liberalism & American Decline
by Robert H Bork

https://www.powells.com/book/slouching-towards-gomorrah-modern-liberalism-american-decline-9780060573119

 


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Posted by timothy murray on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:40 | #

@thorn

thank you.

The time of reframing jew ops into the philosophical is upon us.

Borke was before his time; never ! did American Con. Inc. engage at this level.

A reorienting back to St. Augustine is in order; modernism is murder.

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 30 Jul 2023 13:36 | #

And Slouching Towards Gomorrah was released 20 years ago. Look how far and low the anti-Christian Left’s agenda has debased nearly all aspects of western culture/morality since then. The Long March Through the Institutions has been wildly successful. Unfortunately the Church has only been remotely effective at fighting back against the blob-like evil consuming the all but post-Christian West. 

Tammy Bruce, a gay woman herself, in 2004 released her book titled The Death of Right and Wrong: Exposing the Left’s Assault on Our Culture and Values This is a brief synopsis:

If you believe children should be seduced into warped sexual behavior by the Gay Elite, if you think confessed murderers should be set free by defense attorneys who know how to wield the race card, if you feel promiscuous gay men should be empowered to spread AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, don’t read this book.

But if you’ve always suspected that factions on the Left are trying to destroy the values that define our civilization, this book proves it. Through the pages of The Death of Right and Wrong, author, activist, and pundit Tammy Bruce takes you inside the chilling world of the Left—a place where morals and decency have been turned on their heads and the crisp distinction between Right and Wrong has been blurred into a mushy, gray mess.

In this world, the Gay Elite exploit our children—under the guise of tolerance and education—to satisfy their sexual obsessions.

In this world, the Black Elite laud convicted murderers as community heroes and award-winning “artists.”

In this world, the Feminist Elite fawn over a woman who mercilessly killed all five of her children.

And much more that will offend your sense of decency and threaten your basic values.

Ms. Bruce smashes the facades of “Tolerance,” “Understanding,” and other Leftist slogans to reveal the ugly truth of their agenda. As a gay activist and former president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization of Women, she witnessed firsthand the Left’s attempts to undermine our millennia-old code of morals and values, aided by politically biased media and academia. And if the news headlines of today are any indication, they’re winning the culture war. Unless we act now, we are doomed at the hands of special interest groups on the Left who want nothing more than to undermine our ability to judge right from wrong in order to foist their own selfish, anything-goes society on the rest of us. This book reveals what they’re doing, how they’re doing it, and what we can do to restore decency in our society.

You’ll discover powerful tools in these pages to help you understand the psychology of the Left—what makes them tick and, more importantly, how to stop them from eroding our values completely. Full of controversial opinions and countless examples ripped from the headlines, The Death of Right and Wrong is a powerful, eye-opening book that you won’t want to be without.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sun, 30 Jul 2023 18:56 | #

Unfortunately the Church has only been remotely effective at fighting back against the blob-like evil consuming the all but post-Christian West.

“the Church” has different meanings.

Protestantism is completely conquered; it cannot fight, its supine nature is built into its dogmas.
Catholicism is infiltrated by the same forces that did the long march. A great sifting has taken shape there and the anti-church holds the reigns of the heirarchy.
The Church, the body of Christ, is purified. Abp Vigano appears to be our current leader in the secular world.
The Orthodox seem fine, but I do not understand them,nor do I care to. I wish them well, though.

I assume you have read Jones’ chapters on the Enlightenment and Luther.
The scoop on Luther completely deflated any hopes for convincing Protestants to fight the jews. There is no there, there.
their ‘faith’ kills reason.

Growing up, I heard “Locke, Hume, etc” and assumed something good was there. I was wrong. The failure is built in, as Mr. Bork clarified in his paragraph.
Frankly, America needs to die, it is built on something false; what will rise in its ashes is not in my control.

The nice thing about becoming Catholic is that my home is the Church, which has outlived many, many empires and governments. That is where my loyalty lies, not to America.

Am I sad that freedom turned to tyranny in my lifetime? yes. It was nice to experience freedom as a boy.  But, it did not endure. Within 3 generations of admitting the jews, America died.

To think that this is what they have always done…the poor serfs of the European north, ....etc.

We are fighting evil.  We will win.  But its going to suck,  fighting.

so be it.

God bless.

 

 


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Posted by timothy murray on Sun, 30 Jul 2023 19:35 | #

hi @Thorn


I posted a link to your comment over at Tan’s site.
http://age-of-treason.com/2023/07/04/kabbalah-is-nothing-but-expanded-spinozism/


I also mentioned, linked to @GW latest post.


Do you think that a common ‘ontology’ can be constructed at the intersection of the Ancient Greeks and St. Thomas?

Or some place similar?


On the American Protestant split from reason, I am confident that these people can be regrounded in St. Augustine?*. I know this because these are my friends and neighbors. 


*loosely speaking. By St. Augustine I mean the union of faith and reason.


p.s. the death of TENS is huge, it is the death of the materialist creationist narrative, replaced by the Logos of our DNA.

 


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 30 Jul 2023 21:22 | #

“Protestantism is completely conquered; it cannot fight, its supine nature is built into its dogmas.”

I don’t mean to be disrespectful but I was born and raised Roman Catholic. I was taught to believe everyone who wasn’t a Catholic is destined for Hell. Everyone! Jews, Muslims, Protestant Christians, atheists ... you name it. The Detroit neighborhood I grew up in was 100% white and overwhelmingly Christian with approx 75% Catholic. 20% Lutheran and 5% other Protestant denominations. There was zero tension or conflict between the residents due to religious differences. One thing we all had in common was we wanted the hood to stay racially segregated. We were all segregationists. I’m talking back from the 1950s on up to the late 1990s. Once blacks started to move into that NE section of Detroit, whites got the F outta there, stat! None of the white Christians wanted to live in close proximity to Negroids. We especially didn’t want our kids to attend racially mixed schools That is the reality of the situation. Christianity is a universal faith, true, but that universality isn’t the reason Christian nations are commuting racial suicide via massive immigration of non-white immigrants.  The problem is the morally-bankrupt power hungry greedy ruling-class wants an abundance of cheap labor; they keep the masses of whites from resisting their dispossession via mass coercive intimidation combined with brainwashing techniques - viz “anti-racism”, CRT etc. The thing is the mass brainwashing techniques are effective towards whites and whites only bc it’s whites who are the intended target. As it stands now, whites think their only choice is to quietly go along with the “program” or become a social pariah and subsequently become “canceled.” Heck of a choice, aye? Again, (this is for GW) Christianity is not the cause of the “anti-racism” ideology; “anti-racism” is an ideology that took hold post WWII. Bork and Bruce are on target (by blaming the Left/ modern liberalism) but neither really hits the bullseye. They dared or dare not least they be canceled.

BTW, I didn’t know Tan was still active on the WN scene. At any rate, Majority Rights is the only WN site I still frequent. Every so often GW writes a grand slam of an essay.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:44 | #

Modern-liberalism/Leftism/radical-Feminism is the cause of the ‘cat lady’ sickness. Traditional Christian values are the cure.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 31 Jul 2023 11:28 | #

Christianity is a universal faith, true, but that universality isn’t the reason Christian nations are commuting racial suicide via massive immigration of non-white immigrants.

Thorn, Christian universalism resides in its model of the individual soul in relation to its deity, which soul is a bloodless and retro-moralised cypher which is the same as every other bloodless and moralised cypher.  This is the ideational foundation for the liberal model of the equally bloodless liberal individual.  Both are entirely sympatico with the Judaic project for the a-causal gentile at the End Time.  This is why I used to say to Daniel that we are living inside the Jewish mind.

As a non-faithist, one has to grant faith its realm.  Were it possible to wash Christianity out of the faithful, they would only lose direction and turn to maladroit ends, as so many have turned to the obvious schlock of neo-Marxism.  It would prove to be another frying pan and fire scenario.

But that said, the long-run story is that gods and religions come and go.  They are not eternal.  Only our truth is eternal.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 31 Jul 2023 19:40 | #

Were it possible to wash Christianity out of the faithful, they would only lose direction and turn to maladroit ends, as so many have turned to the obvious schlock of neo-Marxism.

The faithful will always be part of all of us - it’s part of our being. As I’ve explained here before, even atheism is a faith system per se. So the question is what belief system, god or gods will you choose to place your faith in. For me, of course, I chose Christianity - particularly Roman Catholicism. Out of all the religions and belief systems I’m familiar with, the Roman Catholic Church provides, IMHO, the most convincing explanation of the reason for our existence. Until something more convincing comes along, I’m sticking with that.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 31 Jul 2023 19:56 | #

Do you think that a common ‘ontology’ can be constructed at the intersection of the Ancient Greeks and St. Thomas?

Tim,

That’s too tall an order for me to answer right now. Perhaps after my third reading of Logos Rising I might be knowledgeable enough to offer a proper answer. But an interesting question, nevertheless. However, from what I gleaned so far, St. Thomas was light years ahead of the Ancient Greeks in metaphysical terms.

 


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Posted by timothy murray on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 01:24 | #

@thorn

LOL!!!!

I bow to your 3


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 11:29 | #

LOL!

I’m halfway through my first reading. Normally a book of that size I could breeze through in about three or four sittings. But due to the dense complex ideas covered therein it’s taking a lot longer for me to study and absorb. Much of the subject matter is quite new to me. But I do intend to read it a second time. Some select chapters thrice.

That said, E. Michael Jones is, no doubt, an accomplished scholar. Thus I’m finding it refreshing and a pleasure to read his work. Well worth the time spent.


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 11:55 | #

Gettin’ closer!

Ex-Russian president Dmitry Medvedev threatens ‘global nuclear fire’ over Ukraine counteroffensive: ‘No other option’
By Jesse O’Neill
July 31, 2023

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ominously warned that the Kremlin would have “no other option” but to ignite “a global nuclear fire” if Ukraine’s counteroffensive on Russian soil is successful.

Medvedev, current deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, gave his latest nuke warning on Sunday, as the Kremlin labeled a drone attack on a Moscow high-rise an “attempted terrorist attack” by Kyiv.

“Imagine if the … offensive, which is backed by NATO, was a success and they tore off a part of our land then we would be forced to use a nuclear weapon,” he wrote.

That would be justified “according to the rules of a decree from the president of Russia,” he said, seemingly referring to Russia’s nuclear doctrine, which allows nukes to be used in response to attacks with conventional weapons.

Read more>> https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/kremlins-dmitry-medvedev-threatens-global-nuclear-fire/


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 23:01 | #

Tim @ 118

Word of advice: I read most of the comments on Tan’s site you linked to. Reminded me of how jew obsessive I was several years back. I moved on since then.  Let me clue you in, jew obsession will warp your mind. It is a sickness.

Lee John Barnes (GW knows him) taught me the best definition of antisemitism: “Hating Jews simply because they are Jews.” Of course, hating any one simply bc the “ethnicity” they belong to is both illogical and immoral.


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 23:09 | #

Tan’s wife is Jewish. (Or at least he claims she is.) Makes one wonder why such an antisemite would marry a Jewish woman. Something doesn’t add up there, no?


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 02 Aug 2023 03:44 | #

Thorn’s girly hysteria is par for the ( downward ) course .

A word , if I may , GW, about engaging in ostensibly serious debate with Christians , viz., they closely resemble Jews inasmuch as the Christers are , like their theological sires ,the Jews , incapable of thinking about anything , mutatis mutandis , except Christianity.

The Christians’  capacity to obsess over Christians, Christianity and the (((Saviour))), supercedes each and every concern in their intellectual ( not you Thorn ) chastity belted lives.

The Christians like TM and the dummy Thorn surely have not gulled you, GW, into thinking they care about temporal , terrestrial White EGI ?  I’d bet against it.

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 02 Aug 2023 10:04 | #

A correct and condign view of America :

  https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/04/the-pariah-nation/


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:38 | #

Hi Thorn at @127

Thank you, but I am not obsessed in the least with jews, I am not obsessed about anything.

I do recognize evil when I see it and I do run towards the truth.

They cosmopolitan ‘elite’ are a problem to be managed and defeated.  It is our Christian duty to do so and Christendom has done it many times in its history.

cordially



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