Polish vs Nazi anti-Semitism: Poles sought nationalist separatism; Nazis sought nationless race war.

Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:17.

27:10: It is Poland’s explicit policy after 1935 to rid itself of 90% of its Jewish population. Given that there were more than three million Jews in Poland that’s a very large number. ..but from their point of view, the way to get rid of the Jews was to support right wing Jewish terrorists who are going to make a lot of trouble in Palestine so there could be a Jewish state.

...from the Nazi point of view, anti-Semitism is part of [their concept of] racial anarchy. The Nazi point of view is that Jews are the ones who are in the way of a racial struggle, which is non-political.

The Polish point of view is different. The Polish point of view is attached to the state. They don’t understand that the Nazis are about racial anarchy. ...the[y think rather that the] way to handle whatever problem they’re defining, even what they see as the struggle against Jews, is by way of states. So, you either negotiate with the British or behind their back you find a way to create a state in Palestine and then you can get the Jews sent off there.

...to emphasize the point that there are different kinds of anti-Semitism, it’s not just a matter of turning up the dial or turning down a dial ..or who is more anti-Semitic the Poles or the Germans.. there are issues of quality here which matter, especially when the quality has to do with the state. ..but where we’ve gotten to in history is the moment where Germany starts to destroy states. Where this theory of state destruction actually becomes practice.

30:40: Poland is where Hitler finally gets his war. It’s not the war that he wanted; it’s not a war that he had planned; it’s not a war that he expected. But when he made war against Poland it was the first war that he prosecuted while actively destroying the state.

When he talks to his high officers in July/ August 1939, before the war… early September 1939, what he tells them is that this war is not like other wars. It’s not about territory. It’s not about victory. It’s not about seizing a certain amount of land. It’s about destroying Poland as a state and as a nation.

In other words, it’s not just about destroying the Polish army; but about coming into the country, declaring that the civil code no longer functions; the Polish state does not exist; (this is where it gets interesting) the Polish state has never existed.

So, the claim that they make when they enter Poland is basically the same kind of claim that European imperialists made beyond Europe; that the territory we’re entering is uninhabited, at least in the sense of being uninhabited by political beings.

So, Poland is treated colonially in the sense that the Polish state is not acknowledged as an institution; actively not acknowledged. And the people who are thought to represent it, whether they are military officers, whether they are civilian politicians, whether they are Roman Catholic priests, are physically eliminated - killed: in the tens of thousands. That’s not an accident. That’s part of the idea of destroying the Polish state.

Tags: European Nationalism, Far Right, Global Elitism, Military Matters, Nazism, Polish Nationalism, Political analysis, Political Philosophy, Race Replacement, That Question Again, White Genocide: Europe, White Left Ethno-Nationalist Alliance, White Nationalism, World Affairs

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Posted by Putin-Ribbentrop on Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:07 | #

1:22:42 [Audience member]: “Can you draw any parallels between Hitler’s political philosophy that you describe and present day political leaders such as Vladimir Putin?

1:23 [Timothy Snyder]: I would hesitate to do that but fortunately President Putin does it himself. Right? So, he has embarked upon a nostalgic campaign about the 1930s, which leads right up to and includes the idea that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a pretty good thing. So, rather than my doing it, I just prefer to kind of sit and listen; because what he is saying, and I think this is a very important claim for Europeans is that things like the European union or any sort of transnational law, those things don’t really matter. The “real world”, the “good world”, the world that you know, “real men want, is the world of the 1930’s when nations were nations and men were men”, you know, that’s what he wants.

So, right up to the point where he says that Stalin and Hitler were rational actors who were just “doing what power does.” So, I don’t like the idea of parallels but I don’t mind pointing out that Putin has rehabilitated the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact twice; once in front of his own local historians and the second time in front of Chancellor Merkel.

Posted by Colin on Sun, 01 Mar 2020 07:10 | #

SHORTPOD (48): BAD HISTORY AND THE NAZIFICATION OF NATIONALISM

While Colin Liddell is entirely too dismissive, suspiciously so, of Jewish power and influence as a cause in the plight of European peoples, suggesting rather that it is largely “wig-nat” conspiracy theory, better attributed to the product of decadence born of liberalism, there is indeed another extreme on the part of those representing, rather misrepresenting White Nationalism; which is attachment and oversympathy to Nazism and Hitler.

Despite the fact that the attempted rehabilitation of Hitler is unnecessary for nationalism, a current of attempted rehabilitation persists, and a fundamental necessity does attend to that attempted rehabilitation - namely dishonesty - such as taking the position that Churchill started WWII.

Hopefully, Laura Towler won’t get sucked into the range of dishonesty that rehabilitating Nazi Germany entails. The right wing school of thought suggests itself of having had her say in the interview with Greg Johnson that she has dissuaded her grandmother of the veracity of “certain historical events.” ... best not to speculate as to what she meant, but it hits a sour note, reminiscent of tunes that David Duke and his audience like to play along with Mark Collett, unfortunately - and the influence is unfortunate, as Collett has a lot of valid, intelligent and important things to say.

It’s the age old problem of the right, unhinged as it is from ethnonationalist praxis.