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Response to Robert Stark’s question as to my critique of him and his “softened stance” on Jewry  Robert Stark promoting ((((John K. Press’s ‘Culturalism’, a proposition to yoke the gentiles under Abrahamic ‘culture’, i.e., Noahide law))).
My misgivings with you began not with your having a soft stance on Jews, but with your having a soft stance on Nazis, as that contributed to a subversive agency against a platform that I was setting out - one that would reject Nazism and not seek to redeem it - a platform that I initiated with integral part to sort-out Nazi/Hitler association from White Nationalism; a motive which was, in fact, my initial motive for participating at VoR. However, Germanophilia taken to the point of (insufficiently critical) Nazi sympathy, if not outright Nazi advocacy, was apparently part and parcel of being central to Regnery projects such as VoR; so my project was attempting to seed and take root in harsh soil and an antagonistic environment there. The first clue as to how determined that antagonism might be came after I had started writing and talking about my theory of the buried meaning of hippies - a theory of mine which has been long in the making and has always been important to me.  Johnson’s attempt to marshal a “hippies for Hitler” cult.Soon after I published that at VoR, you and Greg Johnson, apparently in tandem, published there what was to me an idiotic article called West Coast White Nationalism, featuring a picture of Hitler in love-beads, with your discussing some of the Germanic elements that went into hippie culture - such as Tolkien - Gothic/Germanic elements that I may have overlooked; a cultural part of it, sure, but which do not seem so important a phenomenon to emphasize in regard to hippie culture, even with retrospect. It certainly did not warrant associating hippies with a picture of Hitler in love-beads; and to obfuscate my thesis as such. Now, I learned that Mike Conner’s strategy was to take what he considered “main-streamers” like you and I, and direct people through us to “the radicals”, such as Carolyn Yeager and Mark Weber. But that was not my goal and I did not appreciate having my important message about the underlying meaning of the hippies obfuscated and re-directed in that way.  Johnson’s Eco-NazismNext, there is another issue which is dear to me and which I have a fairly original take-on as it bears on White Nationalism - namely, ecology. Once again, after I discussed it, Greg Johnson put up an article on ecology, “Eco-Fascism”, discussing it in a podcast with you, featuring a swastika image formed of a different coloration of trees from those adjacent. It was/is irresponsible of Greg Johnson to act as if these these important matters are necessarily associated with Nazism, and you should not have been assisting him in doing that. The next misgivings that I had by way of Johnson, is suspicion of his re-directing other ideas of mine to writers he publishes - may not be true, but probably is: Johnson looked at one of my most dear and long held ideas, that is the re-tooling of Maslow’s hierarchy, and encouraged Andy Nowicki to write a book on that theme. Nowicki, I gather, was instrumental to the Regnery circus because he had, in his own words, “a fascination with Nazi Germany” and was fairly sympathetic to their perspective - thus, he formed the normie bridge they were looking for, whereas I was always repulsed by the Nazis and Hitler, not very sympathetic. Thus, to appeal (pander) to their demographic market, they encouraged Nowicki and others, yourself included, to take a subversive angle on my efforts, to play “opposite day” even - particularly against my concept of the White Left. You have been among this entourage, including Kieth Preston and a litany of Jews, Paul Gottfried first and foremost, who want to garner White right wing alliance against left organization and activism as it has finally intersected and turns attention against elitist Jewish interests - thus, they are constantly trying to divert from, eschew and redirect attention from this platform of mine - e.g., your starting-in with Robert Lindsey’s bullshit, that Alt-Left bullshit, which is largely just Jewy liberalism. I also suspect that Greg Johnson directed some of my long considered thoughts on the comparison of black hyper-masculinity to White male pattern sublimation to be used by James O’Meara in his book “The Homo and the Negro.” People like this, Nowicki, Colin Liddell, Matt Forney, Keith Preston, Richard Spencer, even Greg Johnson, are more or less talented writers and career girls, whose motivation has at least as much to do with the niche market that White advocacy lends (or, in Johnson’s case, an ensconcement of his snooty, elitist dainties) as a natural, overriding and organic concern, that would gird a solid basis for White group interests. Their snobbery, calculation and inorganic motivation makes way rather for Jewish entryism and subversion of White interests. In seeing you allied with them and then going more and more full-fledged Jew friendly than even them, I was experiencing in you, Robert, not someone who was principally concerned with what was right and what was necessary to defend peoples of European extraction, but just another one who was directed by what it took to be popular and commercially viable as such. Kissing Jewish ass and going along with their program, definitions and framing of events is certainly a tried and true method (just ask Donald Trump). It can work as a career move, but it isn’t right and I don’t respect it. I’m not saying that I don’t understand the attraction to Jews - respecting academia and intellectualism as they do, you can learn a lot from them (they often understand the conservative arguments better than Whites do); with that, as interlocutors they are most articulate and even sympathetic - up to a point, which will be apparent to those caring and responsible to White/European peoples. As business partners and allies they can obviously be enormously helpful. They are certainly not all bad people and can be much more decent and ethical in many instances than “the goyim” .... provided, ultimately, that you are liberal and sowing the seeds for your people’s destruction. You ask: “What is your main critique of my soften stance on the ((issue)))?” This is where I take most pointed issue with you now - in your “concession” that “some of (((their))) elites cause problems.” It is beyond that. Not only do their elites have hegemony in the key power niches, but their biological pattern is destructive to Whites. Separatism from them as an entire group is warranted as such. Nevertheless, I understand your attraction to their women - many of them, physically, anyway. I’ve never had a Jewish girlfriend but admit to finding some of them very sexy. Perhaps I did not have the kind of talent they were looking for as you have, or as Tanstaafl has, that caused them to successfully lure you in. I would encourage you, however, to observe, as I have found, that while you can talk to them often with more satisfaction than other women - at first - eventually, before long, their politics invariably come to liberal dissolution of White peoples, dissolution of the capacity for White people to maintain ourselves as a distinct people. And now (as of 2008 and their consolidation of elite power) their strategy is turning right wing, to where they want to intermarry in a right wing alliance and eventual merge with elite gentiles, to Jewify them (again, look at Trump). What’s wrong with that? Well, first and foremost that is the alliance that has made for such vast destruction to ours and other human and general ecology. Now they dare to propose themselves and their co-opting of our genetics to their aims, to their convenient friend/enemy distinctions, as the solution. DanielS Comments:2
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:13 | #
JimB We’ll see if you are showing due respect for what I’m saying. I doubt it, but let’s read on…
Creating a platform that does not ‘honor’ Hitler’s memory is not a “hard” stance, it is the normal stance and platform for people the least bit reasonable.
National Socialism is a misnomer for Nazism, a rogue imperialist, supremacist regime that was neither fundamentally nationalist (it was imperialist) nor socialist (it was ‘naturalist’ - natural fallacy - and supremacist) in nature.
It may seem that way among your circles, but you are talking like the Jewish fellow ensconced in New York City who can’t believe that a Republican became President because he personally doesn’t know anyone who voted Republican.
Not only is it not the same situation, but the Nazis were not “White Nationalists” and didn’t only treat the Jews as their enemy, they made enemies of the Slavic nations and all White nations who opposed their imperialist, supremacist agenda.
I’m not asking their permission for what they’ll let us do - and nobody can successfully associate me with Nazism.
That’s been a tag line that they were able to promulgate in the days when media was even more in their control, but the argument that “they’re going to call us Nazis, so may as well identify with it”, was always immediately recognizable to anyone with sense as idiotic - unnecessarily divisive of Whites and stigmatizing of our cause.
That’s ridiculous. There is no “spin”, those of us who are not Nazis are not Nazis - that’s that. Furthermore, the Internet has only been in gear for a little over ten years to counteract negative Jewish spin that’s been going on for over fifty years. The Nazis having gone over the top has been the largest part of why it has been so difficult to overcome their stigma and to be critical of Jews, despite that being eminently warranted. All the more reason for those of us who truly do not identify as Nazis to not cop to it.
Absolute bullshit.
It ought to be obvious why we should not identify as Nazis.
Well, either you have not made an honest study of the history, or you are a nasty piece of work and a fool.
They brought about the death of 55 million Europeans, the destruction of countless cultural artifacts and architecture; and stigmatized the cause of nationalism and necessary anti-semitism for decades to come - and they did this at the expense of nations that were also anti-Semitic - the Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians etc, etc, were all ant-Semitic.
No, “we” are not and if you are, you are a fool and a detriment to our people - including, and perhaps especially Germans.
They do not unilaterally define me, the ethnonationalist cause and its terms.
The opposite is true. A hard Nazi line is against White Nationalism in favor of a world view not only at odds with Jewry, but setting Germanics against other White/European peoples.. Having said that, and true though it all is, I don’t think you are capable of changing and knowing any better, plain though it is (you clearly have not read, nor are willing to read much of anything I’ve said); so you’re better off at one of the sites that’s into Nazi denial. 3
Posted by JimB on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:54 | # “...so you’re better off at one of the sites that’s into Nazi denial.” So long then, idiot. 4
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:13 | # Fuck off you stupid asshole, who would try to suggest to our people that they should “admire Hitler’s memory”... Can you imagine? I know it’s hard for you, but try to think for a second, idiot, about making that suggestion (for just one salient example) to people of Eastern Europe, whose nationals, including civilians, were killed in the millions by Hitler’s regime; despite being more than willing to fight the Soviets, despite anti-Semitism featuring prominently in their nationalism. Who is the idiot? You are JimB. 5
Posted by (((Supply))) on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 17:33 | # Robert Stark is undertaking some collaborative Jewish project with Luke Ford that they are calling (((Supply))) - yes, they put the brackets around the word (Ford did, in his trailer post anyway):
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Posted by JimB on Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:40 | # You deleted my last comment, you fucking coward? Afraid I’m right? Censor all you want, but truth is truth. And by the way, why don’t you save your hostility for communists, who murdered hundreds of millions of people WHEN THEY WEREN’T AT WAR, instead of the National Socialists who only killed people that they were fighting a war against, you piece of dog shit? 7
Posted by JimB on Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:44 | # “Since the site admins respect freedom of speech, it is inevitable that some readers, including the admins themselves, will find some comments or entries offensive. However, it should be kept in mind that all entries and comments within this site reflect the viewpoints of their respective authors and cannot be assumed to be held by others commenting or posting on this site. On the other hand, comments inciting others to criminal activity will be deleted and repeat offenders will be banned from posting. The site admins neither endorse nor condone criminal behaviour for any purpose.” What a laugh, DanielS You deleted my comment, but was I inciting anyone to criminal activity? NO. 8
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 11 Aug 2018 13:06 | # Listen you worthless piece of dog-shit. I deleted your last comment because, like the two prior, it was too stupid, disinformational, not worth sorting through. Here it is:
A “civic-nationalist” - lol. You obviously have not read anything of mine. Your arguments are defeated by a mere honest look at the facts; but moreover, I’ve addressed these matters a number of times already (obviously you have not read any of that) and I am not going to give your disinformation space for the needless tedium of sorting out what is obvious to intelligent people - which obviously does not include yourself; so there is no point in wasting time with you. Your comment, the one that I deleted, hinged on the idea that Eastern Europe fought against Hitler because they had to - completely ignoring the fact that they had to fight Hitler because Hitler attacked them - and did Not have to; he wanted to and planned-to all along for his vainglorious imperialism - from Mein Kempf, to the full take-over of Czech after the Sudetenland had been given to him, to the Molotov Ribbentrop pact. Poland was not only against communism/the Soviets, but had already defeated them when the Red Army was on its way to Berlin in 1920. Pilsudski viewed German nationalism as reasonable and considered the Soviets his arch enemies. Roman Dmowksi, the father of Polish nationalism, was staunchly anti-semitic. He had disputes over a few border towns with Germany - Schneidamuhl, Danzig, but not with German nationhood. And no, the Poles were not ‘glad to see the Nazis there’ (the Czechs either). Belarus and Ukraine hated the Soviets as much as anybody and some nationalists welcomed the Nazis at first, but they were not yet aware of Hitler’s plans to annex their lands and relegate their people to helot status. Your (stupid) argument was that these nations had to fight against Nazi Germany, which completely ignores the fact that they had to fight against Nazi Germany because Hitler attacked them when he did not have to - he wanted to and planned-to all along in his war mongering, imperialist aspirations. You want people to admire this dickhead after getting 55 million Europeans killed, stigmatizing the necessary cause of nationalism and critical separatism from Jewry as a wholly antagonistic people. Now get the fuck out of here idiot. There are sites that cater to your stupidity. This is not one of them. But as a believer in eugenics, which am sure that you are, rather then contaminating other sites and the human race, you should kill yourself. You are just too stupid. If you cannot bring yourself to do that, then you can undergo voluntary sterilization. 9
Posted by Captainchaos on Sun, 12 Aug 2018 03:46 | # Why don’t you two fairies get a motel room together? 10
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 12 Aug 2018 03:51 | # LOL. Even if I were so inclined, you and your boyfriends have taken up all the rooms for your daisy-chains. 11
Posted by MOB on Sun, 12 Aug 2018 18:55 | # JimB is exactly right at 4:11 Aug 10. If you’re unable to grasp that fundamental truth, Dan, then you’re probably wasting your time by writing about the Jewish problem at all. : ( 12
Posted by MOB on Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:04 | # Back on May 14, 2014, I wrote in a comment: https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/mr_radio_tom_metzger_jimmy_marr_daniel_…_and_me#c143461 “Unlike extroverted TT, whose disillusionment has still left him with a “lone wolf” means of continuing the struggle, I have become an introverted version of lone wolf, working on a web page that will show what I’ve learned during the past 20 years on the Internet, from a White Nationalist perspective.” My web site is about 70-80% finished. It’s been hard work and a few problems, like trying to get a Contact Form to work, I haven’t been able to solve yet. Remaining work includes finishing the last three categories (War, Nationalism, Features), adding the many supporting audio-visuals I have to those articles with right columns, and creating galleries for art, music, and poetry. As of my last upload: http://www.culture-clash.net/index.html 13
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:49 | # MOB, sorry that you feel that way :( but you are totally wrong. I would like to say that it is good that JimB might have somewhere to go but the idiot has already been misguided enough. 14
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 14 Aug 2018 09:40 | # JimB, you can screen capture all of your comments that you want. You’re not going to waste people’s time here with having to sort out disinformation that has already been addressed. Unlike you, other people will (or can, anyway) read posts in which these matters have already been addressed and sorted-out. You are impervious to anything but “Hitler was the savior” - completely ignoring his designs to take imperial Lebensraum for Germans at the expense of the people and nations to his east, despite their being staunchly against the Soviets, anti-Semitism being an integral part of their nationalisms, and the fact that Germany was under no threat to its nationahood from the east, especially if Hitler did not attack those nations (as he had designs for long in the making). I’m not going to waste my time and that of others entertaining your strawmen. Hell, you didn’t even read THIS post before accusing me of being pro-Jewish, pro-Soviet and whatever other thing. You are a prefigured, impervious idiot. Don’t waste our time gunking-up threads with disinformation. 15
Posted by Gregory Conte resigns from Alt-Right on Wed, 15 Aug 2018 03:21 | # Richard Spencer (in fact, the exemplar of the Regnery circus), should have been among the first on the list of career girls whose presence in White advocacy represents an affectation of their snobbery. Gregory Conte found out the hard way - get out of the right!
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Posted by MOB on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 16:00 | # I came across this paragraph this morning, and it’s relative to this thread so I’ll submit it: “The truth is that the maniacal Hitler of popular demonology is a post-war fiction the principal purpose of which is to stigmatize any nationalist movement, NS or otherwise. Hitler now represents not a specific historical figure and the movement he led sixty years ago, but nationalism of any variety, including our own. The System’s anti-Hitler orthodoxy, invoked almost daily, is in effect tacit propaganda for multiracialism and a potent device to keep all nationalists perpetually hiding in closets, too afraid of labels like “racist” and “nazi” to openly say what we sincerely believe. We have, therefore, a real interest in demythologizing Hitler, and we have no hope of escaping our association with what he represents. We can’t run away from Hitler, however much some of us want to. The best account I’ve seen of Hitler’s significance in our contemporary political culture is Mark Weber’s review of a recent book on the subject, available on the IHR site: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n5p34_Weber.html.” Some Thoughts on Hitler, Irmin - http://library.flawlesslogic.com/hitler.htm 17
Posted by MOB on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 16:08 | # Link above is right but doesn’t work because of period and quotation mark at end; here it is: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n5p34_Weber.html 18
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 16:41 | #
MOB, this is your hypothesis. It is wrong. But you are free to promote your hypothesis on your website or other websites which agree with you in seeking to redeem and embrace Hitler. It should be said, rather, that there has become a pernicious habit of right wing orthodoxy among the “WN” system and even the liberal Judeo system overall, as they altercast WN, and ethnonationalism as such, insisting that Hitler, WN and ethnonationalism have to go together. We have a different hypothesis here, that it is neither necessary nor helpful to try to redeem and embrace Hitler for WN / ethnonationalist advocacy. Quite the opposite. 19
Posted by Danuta Siedzikówna on Wed, 29 Aug 2018 10:20 | #
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Posted by The 50 ...48 of them, anyway on Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:56 | # Video of the Fifty Great Escapists burial place in Poznan, Poland
48 of them, anyway… where are the other two?
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Posted by mancinblack on Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48 | # The Stalag Luft 3 memorial to the fifty, built by POW’s. http://www.stalagluft3.com/great-escape-memorial/ Oberst Werner Braune, who was the camp Kommandant at the time the memorial was built, made a personal contribution towards its construction as he was appalled by the executions. Post a comment:
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Posted by JimB on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:11 | #
DanielS,
With all due respect, trying to take a “hard” stance against “Nazis” (or, more accurately, people who admire Hitler’s memory and who advocate for National Socialism) is, in this (((situation))) like trying to make cornbread without cornmeal. As White Nationalists, we are at direct odds with Jewry, exactly to the same degree as Hitler and his National Socialists, and, further, Jewry will not let us disassociate ourselves from “Nazis”! The mere fact that we, as White Nationalists, are considered “anti-Semitic” (meaning we oppose what Jewry is doing and trying to do to us) by the Jewish Establishment means that we are “Nazis”... and no amount of image-spin is going to change that. In fact, sh***ing on “Nazis” is counter-productive on several levels. Those levels ought to be obvious. I for one, though not fond of LARPers, have absolutely no problem with any White person who is an admirer of the Third Reich. Because what the “Nazis” accomplished in Germany during their heyday is precisely what the majority of we White Nationalists want to achieve within our own countries: to free ourselves from Jewish control/oppression/influence, or, to put it simply, stop our genocide. Like I said, we, as White Nationalists are “Nazis”... in the eyes of our (((enemies)))... and in fact. A “hard stance” against “Nazis” is a hard stance against White Nationalism itself!