Suidlanders Reach out to Americans to Stop South African White Genocide
* Apartheid did apparently leave Asians to fend for themselves against Black Africans - and it is the reason many fled to The UK. Comments:2
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:56 | # OK, for me to propose that someone could be Jewish or is acting Jewish is to err in the right direction in order to provoke sensitization to what is in fact a predominant pattern (Jewish power and influence, abuse thereof), response, refinement - correction if need be. The name Rocha can be Sephardic Jew. The first name Simon, a Jewish parliamentarian having the name Roche, that he had worked for the ANC, used the term “racist” and has Jared Taylor’s approval also raises suspicion. Ilana Mercer is a bracket who has slipped under the radar to speak to WN on the plight of South Africa and run interference at the same time for Jewish interests—she is very much Jewish and very much concerned with defending Jewish interests as Keith Alexander of The Political Cesspool came to discover belatedly, so I wanted to make sure to not let one of these sorts go undetected again. Sometimes I will render a “hypothesis” exactly with the luxury of the comment section in mind to provide feedback and correction. Though it is better to err in the direction of suspecting someone of being Jewish, having Jewish motives and then find out that they are not Jewish, I still want the feedback and correction. I also wanted you to say a few things about Cecil Rhodes, knowing that you are a fan. So, thanks for the comment and feedback…. 3
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:48 | # Well, what you say about the name ‘Rocha’, if true, would have no connection in this case anyway, since ‘Rocha’ would be a completely separate name from the Iberian peninsula, it would have no etymological commonality with the Northern European name ‘Roche’. Simon Roche offhandedly mentions at the 14min timestamp in his interview with Jared Taylor, that he had been to a Kibbutz in Israel. He never explains why he would’ve been in Israel at any point, but perhaps it would be explained by the fact that the Suidlanders are self-describing as ‘an emergency plan initiative officially founded in 2006 to prepare a Protestant Christian South African Minority for a coming violent revolution’. The fact that Roche happened to visit a Kibbutz may be entirely part of the weird Christian LARP element of their ideology. The Suidlanders’ capacity to accomplish the basic mission of retreating while remaining alive in the event of a South Africa collapse scenario, and managing the movement of Afrikaner refugees in the midst of the crisis, seems like it is well-planned, and so strategically speaking it would not be a bad idea for people to give them some funding. There is no-one else on the ground who has those logistical capabilities anyway, so if South Africa turns into another Syria somehow, the Suidlanders will probably end up being part of the array of actors that would need to be supported, regardless of their religious views. It’s also helpful that the Suidlanders are constituted as a civil defence organisation under international law, since it means that if everything did reach that kind of stage, it would not be ‘illegal’ to support them. So it’s certainly an interesting case. 4
Posted by mancinblack on Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:56 | # I wonder if this is the same guy? it could well be.. 5
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 18 Mar 2017 16:28 | # Thanks for the clarifications Kumiko. They can use all the help they can get as witnessed by this first hand account by a South Afrikaner woman talking to Daily Kenn. Update on this article 18 March 2017, 14:10 UTC: Evidently I stand corrected—what appeared to me as Jewishness in Mr. Roche is apparently just expression of his Christian background. And while that does comport a certain amount of Jewish thinking in and of itself, he is apparently not Jewish and his organization checks-out as legitimate. That’s one of the key functions of the comments section, to correct errors in a post; the increased capacity for interactive, joint construction of knowledge is a great advantage that we have over prior generations who were far more beholden as a passive audience to media. Though well-meaning my remarks and “hypothesis” about Mr. Roche perhaps being Jewish and his organization being dubious were in fact mistaken. ............................................................................................. Mancinblack - yeah, that’s apparently the guy. 6
Posted by SA White genocide in gear on Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:45 | #
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Posted by Suidlander's preparing for disater in SA on Sat, 01 Apr 2017 08:53 | # RI, “Suidlander’s preparing for disaster in South Africa,” 31 March 2017. 8
Posted by The most dangerous job in the world on Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:47 | # The most dangerous job in the world (South African farmer): Strangely, Simon Roche seems to blame “Lithuanian Marxists” quite a bit for the Marxism of the ANC. 9
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Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Sat, 18 Mar 2017 06:29 | #
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Kumiko remarks:
While ordinarily I don’t tend to want to contradict the message that you’ve chosen to go with, on this one I do think you have overlooked some key points.
Historical conflicts
Firstly, the name ‘Roche’, is a name that is found extensively around the colonial third world, in one variant spelling or another. It is not Jewish. Simon Roche is likely descended from French people, as ‘Roche’ is a relatively prevalent Norman name. He also seems to be a supporter of what he calls ‘the amalgam of Lutheran Germans, the Huguenot French, and Calvinist Dutch’, which lends further support to the fact that Roche is one of them. He is after all boldly taking their side and obviously speaks and sounds like one of them. I’ll hereafter refer to them as ‘Afrikaners’ or ‘the Dutch’, for the sake of clarity.
Secondly, the narrative he tells in which he describes Cecil John Rhodes as a ‘truly evil man’ is precisely what I would expect the Dutch to believe, as anti-British sentiment is a key element of Afrikaner identity stemming from the Anglo-Boer War and the geostrategic and geoeconomic differences between the Dutch Empire on the one hand and the British Indian Empire on the other hand, which can be found in various intra-European conflicts across the history of the modern Global South.
It is also a way that the Afrikaners try to separate themselves from the legacy of British colonial South Africa – which liberals in the West are taught how to criticise and have a whole toolbox for – and highlight the fact that their identity is separate, which I suppose they believe allows them to present their case without having to be implicated in any of the ‘crimes’ of the British Empire, real or imagined. The Dutch still end up being the basic architects of Apartheid though, which liberals in the West are taught how to criticise and have a whole toolbox for, so either way they are going to face the same ‘anti-racist’ opponents.
The fact that I think Cecil John Rhodes was ‘one of the greatest people in history’ whereas Simon Roche thinks that Cecil Rhodes was ‘a truly wicked man’ stems from the issue of country of allegiance. Roche doesn’t like Britain because it spent hundreds of years in conflict with him for hegemony over access to a lucrative trade route and rich natural resources, and I don’t think it should’ve even been expected that he would like it.
I would assume that Roche would also have a non-charitable view of British history in Rhodesia as well, for the same reason – it was established atop the outmanoeuvring and defeat of continental Europeans, by the British Empire.
To demand that Roche should love Cecil Rhodes, would be like expecting the American rebels to begin retroactively loving Lord North’s desire to control the Mississippi Agricultural Basin and deny the Washington’s clique ownership of it. Obviously the rebels wouldn’t do that in 2017 because to do so would be to overturn American patriotic history.
If people are being shot at, it’s only natural that they might think the ones firing on them are ‘truly wicked’, or something.
Thirdly, regarding Asians in Apartheid. The fact that the mostly-Dutch-influenced government didn’t like Asians and only decided to do some pathetic and botched outreach to Asians at the very end of the cycle of destruction when it was too late to even make a difference, was the usual case of ethnic conflict persisting in overhang long after it had lost its historical utility. By the time the South African government recognised that their chief opponent was really activist Black interlopers and no-one else, it was already at the stage where the barbarians were at the gates, and it was too late for anyone to stop the disaster of an ANC ascendancy. That kind of spiteful behaviour (I would call it ‘treachery’ but technically the Dutch never had agreed to respect Asians to begin with so I guess it’s not actually treachery) is just classically tragic behaviour, in a way. I don’t really see the utility in 2017 of bringing Dutch strategic idiocy back up to rub Dutch faces in it though.
Fourthly – since it’s always good to end on a nice note – while it is not possible to get the Dutch to love Britain, one thing that I think everyone can agree on is that the ANC is absolute shit and that it can barely be described as a government.
The ANC’s historical trajectory is something that ‘anti-racist liberals’ should never be allowed to live down, because they endorsed the fucking thing and they endorsed Mandela, and now liberals should be made to own it.
The bottom line
The primary focus should really be on either evacuating those people who still need to be evacuated from the disaster zone that is South Africa, or subsidising more personal protection services to gated areas. And to keep Black people out of the gated areas, obviously.
After basic safety is secured, then it would be okay to resume the long-standing argument between British and Dutch on basically everything (an argument that the British will win anyway because Britain is top alpha). But until basic safety is secured, it’s tactically wise to suspend intra-Euro conflict on this one and just let the Dutch think or feel whatever it is that they need to feel among themselves, given that anti-British historical narration is a necessary part of the Dutch maintaining themselves as a distinct group with a distinct history in Africa. It’s not like their words are going to operationally harm Britons at this point anyway, so Britons can just take the high road on this one.