A comment on Judaism

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 03 December 2021 00:02.

A comment on Judaism, which I made in response to a perfectly decent and honest Orthodox Jew at the Disqus page for a Speccie article on Arab anti-Semitism in London. The comment pulls together much of my current view on the Jewish Question.

On balance, I’m in agreement with Koestler about Ashkenazic origin. There is ample evidence in the ancient historical record. But, of course, it cuts across the biblical claim of return; so it must be dismissed out of hand. But we can let that pass.

The point about Judaism as it developed between the destruction of the Temple and the authorship of the Talmud is that it is a Jewish nationalism in eschatological form. It is a political project. Moshiach is a political, not spiritual, leader. The anointing of Jews as the priest class speaking directly to G-d and ministering over humanity is accompanied by the most material possible ambitions - basically the ownership of everything. Meanwhile, the rest of humanity has no function but that of chattels. One would like to believe that this is only the husk of the fruit. But if that is all there is, it is an extraordinarily coarse and vulgar vision when compared to the sublime and towering spirituality of, say, Indian mysticism or the compassion of Buddhism.

From the outside, certainly, one observes Judaism’s methodology not by the greater spiritual attainment of Jews (there is, after all, the issue of chosen-ness, which renders such struggle unnecessary, hence the emphasis on intra-tribal respect and law) but by the stripping of specificity and identity from the rest of humankind, and humanity’s impress into the role of the servile gentile at the End Time. One expects that Jews sincerely believe this estate to be the pre-requisite for a Pax Judaica. But it’s really something quite different. No people desires such a violent fate. All peoples desire to be free, and possess no lesser right than Jews in that regard.

Psychologically, we might explain Judaism’s extraordinary, hyper-competitive teleology as a neurotic over-evaluation of evolutionary group fitness. Given the history of enslavement of the biblical Jews it is not too difficult to understand. Interestingly, when one looks at Germany after Versailles and through the period of hyper-inflation, we can see that some political forms present in Judaism also appeared in National Socialism. We can identify the Fuhrer, the Thousand Year Reich, racial supremacism, the enslavement of neighbouring peoples, all of which mirror the Judaic model in an absurdist style. The real commonality, though, is the degradation and humiliation of conquest by a foreign people. The great difference is that the absurdist German model was not an evolutionary survival strategy. Germans still held Germany and still, therefore, had an evolutionary point of reference in the soil. Jews did not have this, and made their evolutionary point of reference their host peoples. There are many interesting adaptions to the European sociobiological character, of which the high Ashkenazic average intelligence, especially verbal intelligence, is the most marked.

Obviously, Jews are not going to see Olam Ha-ba. Humanity is being ushered instead into the Fourth Industrial Revolution, and Jews have no special destiny therein. In the meantime, we Europeans still have to cope with all the sociobiological impulses which inform the Judaic project, which carry on regardless. It would be better for us both if Jews could lift their heads and survey the real world, as Richard Herrnstein did in co-writing The Bell Curve just before his death in 1994. He understood the coming elitism. He tried to warn his own people and ours. No one listened, and instead he was attacked as a “racist” by the very kin he was trying to help.

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Posted by Simon on Fri, 03 Dec 2021 10:08 | #

“We can identify the Fuhrer, the Thousand Year Reich, racial supremacism, the enslavement of neighbouring peoples, all of which mirror the Judaic model in an absurdist style.”

I’m beginning to understand why you, normally a hitter far above your own weight, encourage the extremely talentless Thorn. Both of you are determined to understand things via the template you’ve been given, even though it’s the opposite of what is in front of your eyes. You need each other like crutches, even though you superficially disagree.
This really is my final mic drop. There’s nothing here for the likes of me.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:02 | #

Well, Simon, it’s a comment on a Speccie thread, and as such it is eminently open to debate and correction where appropriate. If you will not perform that service, then who?

As a peace offering, I will repeat the following passage from the Parallel Paths piece. I feel sure it will ring a bell or two with you:

... the awakening and authenticising of the people is the optimum circumstance not just for minimising the instability and destructiveness we see all around us today but for the sound psychological grounding required for that otherwise all too rare manifestation, Spiritual Man. Meanwhile, he does not have to function in seclusion, to use a religious term. He can come back into the exoteric and vest it with his perspective and personal substance, giving seriousness and truth to the world, electrifying its art and culture and commons, and religion too.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 04 Dec 2021 05:26 | #

So, here is a positive contribution to the Jewish Question:

Given that a world sans conflict between men is the publicly stated object of Judaism, we Europeans (or whites if you prefer), as the first and, for all we know today, the only subject of Jewish thaumaturgy, are bound to first examine the nature of the venture. What we find is that it is an essentially dark and violent process conducted in the recondite corners of Western culture and politics. Its effect is to universalise away the native principle and the evolutionary principle among our peoples, and it betrays not a pacific intent but a disturbing interest in conquest. Unsurprisingly, we therefore do not want it.

If the publicly stated goal of Judaism is to be achieved, another, actually peaceful and civilised, universal co-existence ... a true Humanus pacem ... must be brought into being. Respect for other peoples’ life and land, for their survival and continuity, must be at its heart. Identity and difference must be respected. Kinship, inheritance and belonging must be respected. The principle, therefore, of nation must be respected. Autonomy must be valued and encouraged. Self-government must prevail.

The politics which draws all these goods together, and which has a genuine universal character, is ethnic nationalism. Each people must freely fashion its own form, and respect the like endeavours of all others. Ethnic nationalism is the only true basis for a peaceful future co-existence,

Manifestly, the proposition would test the ability of Jews, as a group, to respect this path. But whose will is just? Those twenty million or so who strive to separate themselves from humankind, and stand above them in perpetuity as priest-kings, or those who are humankind in all its authentic diversity and beauty?

Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 04 Dec 2021 06:26 | #

The ultimate test of Diplomacy , GW , is to meet someone you know to be diametrically opposed to your views and instinctively know that there’s no point on having a head - on confrontation.

You are an example to us all.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:38 | #

“This really is my final mic drop. There’s nothing here for the likes of me.”

Awww, poor little Simon is perturbed by the fact GW isn’t joining in on his puerile bashing of Americans—White Christian Americans in particular.

LMAO

Buh-bye, Simon.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:47 | #

Correction:

These are two examples of the Simon comments I refer to:

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/parallel_paths#c161564

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/parallel_paths#c161578

Posted by Simon on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 01:18 | #

@GW @Al
Well lads, you got me there. Your gracious and justified reminder of decorum and poise found its mark with greater power than any epithet could. Fair play.

I know it’s probably unwise, but I’ll try to explain why.
It was like finding a nice country pub in here. A convivial and gemütliches atmosphere, intelligent and kind looking patrons (nods at Al and Manc) and a congenial landlord with some interesting anecdotes.
I was aware, of course, of the incontinent, yappy pug. But as it has very worn teeth, I thought I’d step in for a pint anyway. As it wouldn’t shut up, even after a most judicious kick, and the landlord to my disappointment not only doesn’t seem to mind it, but indulges it with a pork scratchings and lets it bite visitors ankles, albeit without harm, I had a momentary sense of humour failure, which I regret. I’m not keen on dogs at all, you may have noticed.
So no, hail fellows and well met ‘n all that, but until I can sit in peace here, this is no place for me. Which is a pity. I wish you well.

Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 02:50 | #

I am happy to take up the exiting Simon’s slack on both counts . Patience please , Thorn.

Simon , if you are alone and palely loitering , may I suggest a more culturally apposite interpretation of Thorn , - Private Pike.

Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:10 | #

Christianity needs more Judaic input . The ovine Christians believe that their shepherd instructed them to ” love thine enemies” but forgot , or never learned , that the Old Testament Desert Deity insisted upon “Hate” for Jehovah’s enemies.

Posted by Larry DeCinces on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:39 | #

Guessedworker: You might be interested in a discussion between Sallis and the blogger Nordicist Confessions on modern Europe. They bring up some interesting points about modern Europeans not respecting traditional boundaries. Not everything can be blamed on Jews. Here it is: https://eginotes.blogspot.com/2021/12/nordicist-confessions-part-ii.html

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 13:49 | #

Good try Simon, but the fact is you walked into the “nice country pub” and introduced yourself by taking a giant steaming dump in the middle of the place. Namely this:

“The other thing I find curious from my serial lurking here is that white Americans think they have some connection, other than pigmentation, with Europeans. This is demonstrably not the case. Americans of any ethnicity have far more in common with each other than us. Ebonics aside, poke any American in a sensitive spot and they coagulate like epoxy resin together and agree on whatever strange interpretation of history it is they are constantly exposed to in their self-conglatuatory echo chamber of fiction. I was trying to think of a relatively benign example, the closest I can get is that they definitely won the war of 1812….. despite all the evidence.”

BTW, I’ve yet to meet a white American who “self-congratulates” themselves over the outcome of the War of 1812. In fact, the last I’ve heard any American speak of it was in my grade school history class. It begs the question where TF do you find such Americans who’re concerned with such bygone events? Imaginary pubs, perhaps? lol

So, Simon, if it’s your desire to make the case that white Americans are too sensitive or overly defensive, thus far you’ve failed both miserably and risibly. Being sensitive is not a part of the character of most white Americanos. If anything, Americanos tend to be too cocksure, and too condescending towards our European brothers and sisters. Moreover, just like in any European country, white Americana is a very diverse group, be it religion, philosophy, ideology, politics etc. etc.

Maybe you can do better?

BTW, Thorn shows due respect and deference to ALL people; that is until they prove they don’t deserve respect.

People that go out of their way to denigrate others so as to feel better about themselves (such as Simon has done with remarks aimed towards Americans) should be roundly rejected. IMHO, they come off as immature, ignorant, or pretentious assholes, etc.

Lastly,

Anyone who’s anti-White is my enemy. Anyone who’s pro-white is my ally. Anyone who schemes to fracture the pro-white alliance—especially from within—is the most despicable, insidious, enemy.

Not accusing Simon of being the enemy within, but he certainly makes himself suspect.

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 18:04 | #

Larry, thanks for the link. I don’t think the content is for me in any constructive sense. It’s more Daniel’s line, given his DNA Nation concept, which I support. I have suggested in the past ... all the way back when Ted was writing here ... that WNs could be doing a great deal more to advance the concept of a white ethnostate; and that unless they talk, talk, talk about it there will never be any hope for it. Mike/JWH/Ted honourably keeps the effort going. But it’s not possible for individuals to do anything concrete. There really ought to be a major, funded organisation working full-time on every aspect of it, educating the young, critiquing the federal state, data-gathering, testing opinion, reaching out to black and Latino organisations with similar agendas, holding meetings and conferences across the country, and developing momentum. When we see that it’ll be time to get excited. Until then it’s just another mode in which our race cannot produce out of itself the cooperation and power to take hold of our own destiny.

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 18:30 | #

“..may I suggest a more culturally apposite interpretation of Thorn , - Private Pike.”

LOL!

But wait!.... Coming soon: The sequel to Gomer Pyle starring Al Ross as Gomer’s protégé. A sitcom centering around a very dumbed down version of Gomer who’s constantly trying to empress others with his ostentatious vocabulary.

Hilarious!

Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 09 Dec 2021 07:13 | #

They’ll be skiing down the Hills of Hell before I go out of my way to impress Thorn.

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 09 Dec 2021 12:56 | #

Jews are a dying breed.

Given their growing incidences out-marriage, their less than replacement level fertility rates and their rejection of Judaism itself ... it all adds up to the Jews not being around much longer.

Sure, the Haredim are reproducing like rabbits; but they, left to their own devices, are virtually defenseless against their Muslim adversaries. The Muzzies will either make them dhimmis or corpses.

If I were a jew living in Israel, I’d get TF out of there and move to Palm Beach County, Florida. Currently, that’s probably the safest place in the entire world for Jews to settle.

Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 10 Dec 2021 04:32 | #

Both Palm Beach’s Bath & Tennis Club and its Everglades Club would surely give the Red Sea Pedestrian settlers a warm welcome :

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1987-04-11-8701230234-story.html

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 10 Dec 2021 11:22 | #

@16

Anyone who cares to spend the 30 seconds it takes to research Jewish power and influence in Palm Beach County would quickly learn that the exclusion of Jews at the Palm Beach’s Bath & Tennis Club and its Everglades Club is the exception that proves the rule. Jewish power dominates in PBC.

The last time I checked, in the city of Boynton Beach there were more Jews per capita than any other city in the United States. Percentage wise, the cities of Delray Beach, Boca Raton, Lake Worth, Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, West Palm Beach and the Isle of Palm Beach were not far behind Boynton in that respect.

Again, the fact is PBC is saturated with Jews concomitant with Jewish power and money.

Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 00:08 | #

GW , I really admired your Speccie comments , especially in the face of the Conservative Party’s powerful Friends of Israel supporters. A bravura performance.

To reverse a Jewish myth , you were a Lion in a Den of Daniels.

Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 00:57 | #

Another Jewish heroine , Charlene Barshefsky , US Trade Negotiator who inflicted more potentially long term damage on the US than the Mongol Invasions did on China.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59610019

Posted by DanielS on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 00:59 | #

A liar in a den with DanielS. Funny your level of denial that would tout his performance when he never won a single argument against me, while it was he who almost invariably took an antagonistic stance to whatever I said, and in a hideous personality trait, rather invariably resorted to strawmen, never bothering to observe that his concerns were neither prior nor mutual exclusive to my focus, which was always complementary to the careful observer.

Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 02:14 | #

GW faced different questions from the Scalextric ones you posed , although leavened with almost as much accompanying ad hominem content.

Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 02:58 | #

Also , GW railed against the Jewish audacity of power that , through the Conservative Friends of Israel , reclaimed Parliamentary land from our genetic patronage in order to establish this Semitic carbuncle :

https://www.westminster.gov.uk/planning-building-and-environmental-regulations/find-appeal-or-comment-planning-application/holocaust-memorial-inquiry-information

“You will respect our Holocaust although your people died trying to defeat its supposed author and no Jews were killed in UK.”

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 12:33 | #

“The Truth about Anti-Semitism”
December 10, 2021

Click to watch vid: https://youtu.be/njUvsTLsMoM

THIS NEW VIDEO attacking “anti-Semitism” spreads dangerous falsehoods and incites hatred.

Produced by the well-funded organization Shine a Light, the video states that criticizing Jews is tantamount to hatred. The female announcer suggests that criticism or verbal attack are the same thing as violence. She calls verbal or graphic attacks online “small crumbs of darkness.”

“Yet, it is still Jew hate,” she states.

Well, no it isn’t necessarily.

Millions of people have criticized Jews in power and have not engaged in any violence against Jews, have even lived amicably with them, and do not support violence. Hatred of Jews is wrong and I don’t support it. Crude caricatures are crude and rude, but they are not violence, do not depict all Jews and are sometimes justified, possibly even preventing violence and hatred.

A recent report by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), which is under the Department of Commerce, showed no link between the growth of such criticism on the Internet and “hate crimes.”

“The evidence does not show that during the last decade, a time of expansive growth of electronic communications, particularly on the Internet and mobile devices as well as social media, there has been a rise in hate crime incidents,” the report states.

The report alleges that research into extremism fails to present data showing “any causal relationship between increased social media use and increased violence.”

The report also cautions against efforts to crackdown on online speech over the baseless concerns about hate crimes. “We caution that efforts to control or monitor online speech, even for the worthy goal of reducing crime, present serious First Amendment concerns and run counter to our nation’s dedication to free expression. To quote President Barack Obama, “The strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression; it is more speech.”” (Source)

In fact, there is reason to believe that suppression of criticism leads to anger and resentment. This video alone has created tremendous resentment, with more than 5,000 negative comments on Youtube, suggesting there is quite a grassroots movement afoot of people who have had it up to “here” with being told they are evil for noticing certain undeniable facts.

This video reminds me of the day recently when a Jewish friend of mine was driving through a parking lot and saw a sign saying “Wrong Way.” He said, “That’s anti-Semitic! It won’t let me do what I want so it’s anti-Semitic!” He was joking, of course, but it’s basically come to this.

The other falsehood the video promotes is a lie by omission. The announcer says that it is anti-Semitic to criticize Israel. She does not mention the extensive role of Jews in overthrowing the ethnic identity of America and European countries. What about open Jewish attacks on Christianity, such as in the recent trailers for the HBO comedy Santa, Inc., the series about a Jewish feminist elf seeking to become Santa. View two of the trailers here and here. So Sarah Silverman’s ridicule and “hatred” are okay — but criticizing Judaism is not okay? If it is a crime to insult people, then why are Silverman and Rogen not facing criminal charges?

Shine a Light encourages snitching (“shine a light”) on critics of Jews in power. As one commenter on the video says, “Jews use their powerful positions in society, like this channel, to stop people from pointing out that Jews have many powerful positions in society.”

Jewish organizations like Shine a Light are hating lots of people with these accusations of hatred. If they don’t like rude caricatures of Jews, why don’t they simply prove them wrong? Why do they so often seek moral status through claims of victimhood?

One more question: What is a crumb of darkness?

—

HT to The Thinking Housewife

Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 12 Dec 2021 07:00 | #

Spreading falsehoods is de rigueur in Christian circles but few of those shameless shamans lying for the Lord can match the late , hugely popular Oral Roberts and his Paul Bunyan style tale of Jesus being somewhat taller than the average Jew.

https://beyondchron.org/he-talked-to-a-900-foot-jesus/

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