A reply to a friend in America

Posted by Guessedworker on Saturday, 19 June 2021 00:46.

egi notes

“GW, who, like other Europeans, has a non-existent grasp of American realities, leaves out many of the real problems of the American “movement,” which are discussed at this blog on a regular basis.”

So says JWH at his blog EGI Notes in what he titles a riposte to a comment I made here.

My comment made three rather fundamental points concerning the mountainous task which WN faces in securing the existence of America’s European folk and a white future for their sons and daughters.  I will not reiterate them all now, not least because JWH had little that was of interest to me to say on the last two of the three points.  But over the first of them - America is a Jeffersonian liberal project - he did build up a bit of a head of steam.  So ...

By that remark I do not only mean that Thomas Jefferson’s view of the constitution, democracy and the individual equipped with inalienable but equal and guaranteed rights has charactered the American political DNA; though I believe this to be so.  I mean that, contrary to McLuhan, the medium is the man, and the medium here is the person of the white American himself.  As the bearer and transmitter of that political DNA, he is ineffably also its human product.  The two are one.  Further, it is particularly powerful in him - more powerful, for example, than the 1798 revolutionary cause typically is within the person of a Frenchman.  Why, because while the Frenchman has a life on French soil measured in ages, the white American is ripped away into newness.  His existential condition is one of ethnic caesura, which denies him some considerable part of the natural, moderating counter-weight to all of the personality-forming influences of his time and place.  He goes further and more openly into the world which is about him.  To European eyes he is both a brother and a stranger.  For all his welcome racial familiarity, he can also exhibit an alarming and child-like absence of doubt in his convictions, of reserve in his enthusiasms, of forbearance of those who try him, of critical sight of self, and of irony and world-weary cynicism in his expressions.  Europeans notice these things and have opinions about them.  They ... we ... are not surprised that this separation of three and a half centuries and three and a half-thousand miles has consequences.

That said, these things are not mandatory or absolute in any sense.  Our white American brother is not just one political thing.  He is not Jefferson Man and only Jefferson Man.  But he is always European Man outwith European soil, and without European manners; and that liberalistic manner in which he is made, while it conditions him, no doubt, to the freedoms of the self-author, does not condition him so well to the turn to that which is closest and most fitting in his European relative.  Caesura leaves behind a divide which is not easily bridged, and raises the question: to what can this man turn?  Another question: is he anyway too completely enculturated in the liberal Weltanschauung to come to the knowledge that this present-to-hand medium of Americana is what he must, in a sense, kill (or die to)?  For his particular human authenticity is not that.  Liberalism’s consequence is that.

Now let’s finish with some context for this problem.  For there is a wider story which afflicts every European people, however rooted.  Yes, the operative system in which self-hood is modelled is liberalism and, yes, it leads us away into the artifice and self-estrangements of individualism and a socially-structured identity.  However, liberalism does not stand in isolation, but in a deep and ancient structure of confected human meanings.  Likewise, our race’s own genius has visited upon us existential challenges, such that wherever we look today we see our collective life shot through with dangers.

We can distinguish these in two streams which act upon us, and which we might term the historical and the historiographical.  We might then array them as follows:

All of the European peoples have mapped their particular journey to the present through these two structures, which always direct us, as their human product, towards artifice.  Everywhere we are, therefore, be it on my side of the Atlantic or on JWH’s, there is the same vast need for a politics of authenticity.

One of the very last email conversations I had with JWH, before he left MR many moons ago, was about the form of a salvational nationalism for our race; for today our nationalism is without an all-embracing life-philosophy that might stand in the stead of the liberal organising system.  As I recall, he hoped to combine Salterism with Yockeyism, and I hoped to find a way to make Heidegger workable.  From memory, I made some effort to explain why a Nietzschean politics cannot answer an existential question.  I wonder whether the passage of years has mellowed JWH’s philosophical quest.  Mine has only intensified.



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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 01:25 | #

My thanks to Thorn for pointing out JWH’s piece at EGI Notes.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:17 | #


Americans are Colonist - descended people who won the US ( as they later named it ) by the impulse of conquest which was , for quite some time, an impressive hallmark of belated British adventurism.

The dichotomy of those who purport to be intellectually honest must surely be , ” Can Americans be both Colonialists and Ethno - Nationalists?”


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:57 | #

Yes, another good and searching question.  America has been turned via propositionalism and the melting pot trope into something quite different to what had stood before, and white Americans have been turned into just one of the colonising groups required to miscegenate itself away.  A few have said something similar of Europeans.  One thinks of Sarkozy’s “metissage” speech and of Andrew Marr’s commendation of “vigorous miscegenation”.

Logically, one would think now that, given where the numbers are, there can be no white American recovery through any form of nationalism unless the new white American homeland is put at the centre of it and argued for again and again and again, such that it penetrates the public mind.

This brings us to the second and third parts of my comment, respectively about the grave difficulty of operating across the full width of the European race, and about the arresting effect of many German-Americans in and on the movement.

In his response to the second of my points - this challenge of bringing to self-awareness a race-wide white population - JWH expressed his personal commitment to pan-Europeanism on the North American continent.  As an Italian American WN, he has a definite and unsurprising investment in that.  I think he is right in practical if not idealistic terms.  Ideally, what pure, elysian beauty there would be in a white homeland arrayed north and south and even east and west to reflect the natural ethnic topography of our race.  It is hard to imagine a more perfect expression of Daniel’s concept of the curatorial DNA Nation.  Perhaps. though, given the ethnic inter-marriage among white Americans such that little if anything remains of pure European ethnicity outside of the most closed communities, the exercise most likely could not amount to anything more than an approximation.  Still, even that would be a wondrous thing to behold, even if it can’t be aimed for at the outset.  Obviously, the practical need is just to get something started, and that has to be addressed race-wide, I think.

Al, as you are a well-travelled man it would be interesting to get your comparison of white Americans with Aussies and Kiwis who, of course, have not been born into such a deeply liberal project.


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Posted by Manc on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:36 | #

GW, the precise definition of the French word “metissage” depends on context, for example “le metissage de la societe” means the cultural mix of society, “metissage culturel” means cross cultural fertilization etc…

The French government published Sarkozy’s “metissage” speech online. It took me the best part of twenty five minutes to read it. The infamous YouTube video was edited down to, what, two minutes? and apparently, Sarkozy spent over half an hour delivering it. While it is clear he didn’t deliver the speech verbatim (the word “metissage” appearing only once in the published version) it is also clear that the context was that of assimilation and integration of immigrants into French society and in particular the workplace. Having described the economic benefits to the French economy of such “metissage”, he said that if it didn’t happen willingly, the government would legislate to make it happen. Here, he likely had American style “affirmative action” programs in mind.

Sarkozy could have used any number of other words in place of “metissage” but he was being deliberately provocative. He wanted to “cause a buzz” over what he considered to be an important speech, made in December during the run up to Noel.

If he had actually meant the government would legislate to force the French public to “mix blood” with other races, how long do you suppose he would have lasted? and I don’t mean politically.

One last thing about Sarkozy. His name, as I wince every time I hear someone from the Anglosphere pronounce it. Sarkozy is a Hungarian name and in Hungary, the emphasis is put on the first compound of a surname and as well as being silent a “y” on the end denotes that the individual is of aristocratic ancestry.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 19:35 | #

Manc, metissage, cultural or otherwise, leads to the fate of the Metis.  The political, governmental and “other” creatures who acted to trigger the mixing up of the world’s peoples in our home, and then advanced and defended it, cannot not have known that genetic dissolution is the only possible outcome for the colonised natives.  Yes of course, it cannot be admitted to.  It has to be presented in other ways.  But the attempt on our life is real, is considered and deliberate, and is working.  If that isn’t what was intended where are the speeches from the same political quarter to preserve our life?  They know what they are doing, and what it means for us; and they want it.  There is no other viable explanation.  This is a genocide.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:49 | #

The political, governmental and “other” creatures who acted to trigger the mixing up of the world’s peoples in our home, and then advanced and defended it, cannot not have known that genetic dissolution is the only possible outcome for the colonised natives.

Excellent comment, GW.

Yes indeed they know, and the they are comprised of ppl with varied and different reasons and motivations. A few are:

1) Some idiotard do-gooders are motivated by self-destructive emotion—compassion for their racial enemies they see as suffering.
2) Many are motivated by the money and/or power they can accrue from immigration. They care about money and power more than the future fate of their native land and fellow countrymen. Greed and lust for power!
3) Many in the ruling-class (I suspect it’s most - especially in academia, the MSM, Big Tech and the entertainment industry) are sexually demented perverts. They appear to be motivated by some sick twisted bizarre psycho-sexual ethnomasochism. They appear to derive sexual pleasure by enacting then advancing immigration policies that they very well understand will result in the eventual extinction-genocide of their own race. They do that whilst gloating to the world how morally superior they are to us “racists.” That is the essence of white-liberals. Words can’t describe how much I despise them!

BTW, is the EU (the boys and girls in Brussels) still planning on importing 70 million Africans into Europe by the year 2035? They said they need to do that in order to compensate for the low birth rates of native European people.


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Posted by Manc on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 23:13 | #

In France the onus is and has always been on the immigrant to learn the French language and live as a Frenchman lives, an approach that would help to facilitate race mixing. However, the French public are concerned that the recent immigrants are not becoming French. Instead, because of recent high levels of mainly Muslim immigration, they are clinging to their own culture, not becoming French and contributing to increased levels of crime. Even Le Pen, when electioneering, has often said that unlike in the past, immigrants are not becoming French and threatening French identity.  Macron has also expressed concerns about this. The prospect of actual metissage isn’t a great concern to the French, although Sarkozy himself is on record saying that he would prefer it if race mixing is kept to a minimum.

According to the 2011 census in multicultural Britain, where there is no pressure on immigrants to assimilate, white British people are the least likely group to be in a inter-ethnic relationship at just 4%; and most of those relationships are with “Other” whites, in particular white Irish. It would be wise to wait until the results of the recent census are published before asserting that it’s working, GW.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 20 Jun 2021 15:15 | #

The stats cited are almost a decade old. How much more dire has the demographic situation gotten since then? 

What the ruling-class is getting away with is mind-blowing! And they have the F’ing nerve to declare that “The Great Replacement” is a paranoid white-nationalist conspiracy theory. What’s even more mind-blowing is apparently at least half of the white population believe everything the traitorous ruling-class tells them.

For all of England (as opposed to all of Britain) the number of non-white British pupils in primary schools is 27.1 percent, and in secondary schools some 23.4 percent.

These figures mean that, given current immigration and Third World reproduction rates, non-whites will be the majority of the population in Britain aged 21 and under by the year 2030.

After that, it will be less than another two generations and Britain will be almost entirely non-white.

http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-seriousness-of-the-crisis-69-of-school-children-in-london-are-non-white/


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 20 Jun 2021 23:09 | #

A depressing update: http://www.westernspring.co.uk/demography-is-destiny/


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 03:22 | #

GW , re Australia .  From the former eyrie of my now rented - out Perth condo ,the liberal immigration policy of successive governments was to replace working class, Brit / Irish descended “10 Pound Tourists” with the university - educated, middle class Chinese of HK and Singapore and then , after a decent interval , appoint an Education Minister to wonder why Whites are not pursuing STEM tertiary education with the same Tiger Mum ferocity as the East Asians.

As I said to my wife , ” The OZ politicos are acting as if they have never heard of genetic racial differences “.

Said Val , ” What makes you think they’re acting?”


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 23 Jun 2021 00:13 | #

Who will win?
The offspring of the F’ing Hippie culture?
or
The offspring of Tiger Moms?

GW knows the answer.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 25 Jun 2021 03:35 | #

Who will win ? The Chinaman , Lik Ass.



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