McShane confesses to the official omerta on black crime

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:16.

“This is alarming new evidence of the deep-rooted Tory failure to understand we don’t make remarks about people of different races without fuelling prejudices in the general population.”

These are the words of Dennis McShane, former Labour Europe Minister, as he comes barrelling out of the darkness like a Polish funnel web. But in the process he inadvertently explains the corrupt motive of the political Establishment to which he belongs. There is no attempt to explain away black criminality through some original sin of the English. Nope, forget that. It’s rubbish anyway. Eradicating racial prejudice is the great shibboleth. Everything obeys that.

Spider Man’s venomous moment was, in fact, an attempt to silence the (all-too) plain-speaking Tory MP Bob Spink, member for Castle Point in Essex. Spink had the stupidly to put himself:-

... at the centre of a race row after insisting the majority of criminals are black.

Mr Spink made his claim in an exchange of emails with a constituent.

He was asked: “Are you saying that a lot more criminals are black than white - or that there are more black people in jail than white because they are stopped more often?”

The MP replied: “The former and that’s what people don’t seem to like. But I didn’t enter a beauty contest when I became an MP!!!!”

Mr Spink 58, MP for Castle Point, Essex, went on to say the problem was being ignored because of “political correctness”.

Yesterday, Mr Spink strenuously denied he was a racist. He added: “Ministers have told the Commons that pro rata more young black people are known to the criminal justice system than white people. It is a fact.

“The main parties have to address where the crime is coming from and stop that crime for everybody’s sake, particularly the black community. It is about telling the truth. I completely deplore racism of any kind but we need to identify the sources of crime.”

Only the Labour-supporting Daily Mirror carried the story. And true to Mr McShane’s liberal agenda, the Mirror website does NOT report the end of the trial today of the two black killers of London solicitor, Tom ap Rhys Pryce, 31. But The Times does, under the headline “Teen muggers found guilty of murdering City lawyer”. The Guardian does, too, under the headline, “Teenagers guilty of murdering lawyer”. The Independent goes with “Teenagers convicted of young lawyer’s murder”. The Telegraph website doesn’t carry the story thusfar. But the Daily Mail leads with, “Teenagers guilty of killing City lawyer”. The Mirror’s competitor, The Sun, avoids words with nine letters if possible and just makes do with “Teens guilty of lawyer murder”.

Most of the reports carry the mugger’s mugshots. So we can see that Donnel Carty and Delano Brown are, erm, of the race to whom Mr Spink was referring. But then there’s the problem of what to write about them. I mean, they’re black. No, yes ... prognathicity ... heavy brow ridges ... wool ... yep, definitely black. So at once we have a terrible moral problem. How does a conscientious hack avoid the Spinkist fuelling of prejudices in the general population?

Of course ... these two young ragamuffins are teenagers, just. That’s what is most noticeable about them. That will get him off the hook.

Well, these hacks are all utter cowards. An evil precept makes liars of them, and cynics of the readers they are unworthy to serve.

I don’t think we are widely read by MSM journalists or Tory MPs. But in case one drops by, this is my no doubt simplistic and impertinent advice: Tell ... the ... truth. Always.

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Posted by Lurker on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:28 | #

I saw Sky news (UK arm of Fox) at about midnight. They carried the murder conviction story, couldnt help showing pictures but there was, of course, no racial angle to be commented on.

So next item coincidentaly, criminal profiling, how to stop the murderers/rapists of the future. We are then treated to three mugshots of convicted killers & rapists. And what was the one thing all these guys had in common? Im sure we can all fill in the blanks.

Posted by calyen on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:01 | #

In the news media, ITV didn’t cover this story at all. And the BBC immediately followed the story with one about the black man shot by police in New York - and commented heavily on the racial angle. It was obvious they could barely stomach covering this London murder on its own.

Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:13 | #

Anyone wishing to expose the truth about the disproportionate nature of Black and Subcon Muslim crime can avoid charges of ‘racism’ by pointing out that England’s Chinese community has an incarceration rate equal to half their population representation.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:47 | #

This morning The Times carries a more detailed story in which the “teenagers” have become “brothers in arms”. The only explanation for their criminality is this:-

Neither boy had a father figure in his life. Brown and his two sisters were brought up by their mother, Maureen, who worked in the Metropolitan Police catering department. He obtained a few GCSEs and completed a one-year sports course at Uxbridge College. Brown was never close to his Jamaican father, Wayne, who had six children by five women.

Carty flitted between the homes of his uncle and his grandparents.

A little depth would not have gone amiss here, perhaps the observation that:-

“These are the child-care methods one encounters in traditional African societies, where violence is no less common than it is among Caribean-born blacks. With white male children such methods would be seen immediately as productive of criminal natures. But black and white are not the same, and the family issue may not play out for them in the same way. Deeper issues of biology also need to be considered.”

The cost of lying to the country about black criminal tendencies can be read into the misbegotten response of the victim’s parents:-

Mr ap Rhys Pryce’s parents, both in their sixties, announced that, because they were devout Christians, they forgave the killers.

Estella ap Rhys Pryce said she felt the men must be “truly dark and unhappy” people whose “lives must have gone very wrong”.

Forgiveness is non-applicable to biology, of course. Her son’s killers are what they are: not just “dark and unhappy” but impulsive, aggressive, devoid of social cooperativeness and the normal human sympathies that attend it, overly self-confident and intellectually incapable of calculating in advance the meaning of their action or its consequences.

Posted by Matt O'Halloran on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16 | #

Harry’s Place, where MR fears to tread, had just kicked off its umpteenth discussion of why religious people are fools and christenings ‘obscene’ when this comment suddenly fell into the mix:

I know this is really off topic but i have just read that really disturbing post below, by the poor woman who was attacked on the Tube by the fat black yob.

I know this is going to sound terrible, but I can’t help it. This afternoon I heard about the conviction of those two black murderers who stabbed the white lawyer to death, and it just got to me.

OK, deep breath, i just want to know: why do black people commit so much crime? I mean, why is that? My best friend was mugged by a black kid last year. I have an old boyfriend who was attacked by a gang of black kids two years ago. It’s always black kids, always blacks, or so it seems. Is this just my racist perception or is it true?

Why do black people commit so much crime? I know we are all meant to think it is poverty but i don’t know. some Asian people are poor, some eastern european people, but they just don’t commit so much crime, so much violent crime, as black people.

Why do black people commit so much crime? Why? why?

The only reply was from a Jew named Shuggy:

Oh for f**k sake! If she (?) was mugged in Glasgow, it would have been by a white kid with ginger hair. Let’s explore the relationship between gingerness and the marginal propensity to commit crime, shall we?

Well, the flesh was weak. I did not feel like fighting another battle single-handed. How I would have appreciated a little help. But that’s a waste of time, isn’t it, Guessedworker? Far better tell off the parents of a murdered man for their ‘misbegotten’ Christian forbearance. Far better flaunt your own inability to believe the eternal truths which alone can underwrite everything else you set store by. Far better stay in a huddle with your handful of grumpy sympathisers.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:15 | #

Matt,

You have committed the blogosphere’s greatest crime. Shockingly, by your own admission, you have been trolling.
A little heavy on the Puzzled of Purley caricature, btw. Puzzled, as I recalled her, was a bit more reticent than that.

Your trollery, of course, calls into question the sincerity with which you criticise me. Am I safe to push through the swinging saloon doors and stride down Virtual Main Street to meet you, trigger finger itching, in the noon-day sun? Or should I just laugh at the troll vainly bellowing away outside while I contemplate a second slug of whisky?

Well, to decide what to do let’s look a little closer at your supposed bone of contention with me.

I am assuming that the purpose of the victim’s parent’s forgiveness is to effect improvement in the Violent Ones. It can’t be to do with personal issues of parental grief, or why tell the papers?

But ... Christian forgiveness of a biologically-influenced (ie, not simply chosen) behaviour is at best unrealistic. Heck, we are race realists. We acknowledge and speak of the biological underpinnings. We cannot be content to rely on prayer to make the genetically-distant wayward walk straight.

A more likely outcome of promiscuous forgiveness is to smooth the waters of white discontent. It does a disservice to the next victim of black violence ... and the next ... and the next. Far better for future victims of black crime if just one bereaved spouse or parent broke the great silence - a bit like your friend, Miss Puzzled, in fact.

So you see, Matt , I have mosied on out with the sun at my back. And now I am afraid I have to drop you.

You see, what I have said above is also your POV, you half-wit. Otherwise, why did you invent Puzzled?

Do try to be more intellectually consistent next time.

Posted by Kenelm Digby on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:18 | #

Seeing the photos of the two murderers of Tom Ap Rhys Price on the television news was a revealation in itself - I haven’t for a long time seen two such overwhelmingly repulsive countenances, even myself who is far beyond the the immature, childish stage of being repulsed at physical appearance actually felt pang of sheer revulsion in my stomach at looking at the photographs.

Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:40 | #

Back in the days of Empire, British Christian missionaries sallied forth into the heart of darkness and often ended up dead. The Goverment thought this wasnt cricket so the next cohort of salvation peddlers who trekked into the African jungle were accompanied by a unit of impressively armed soldiers.

The African savages, upon being confronted with superior weaponry almost always agreed to tolerate the interfering holy fools and word was sent back to London that another bunch of heathen Black brothers had seen the light.

The two examples of sub-human sewage named Carty and Brown are the latter-day descendants of those African marauders whom the Christ-crazed, other-cheek-turning missionaries thought they had converted.

Posted by Matt O'Halloran on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:58 | #

Guessedworker, the comment I quoted from HP was not mine. It was by someone called ‘mrsmiggins’ whom I have never seen previously at HP. To all appearances it was genuine. You have leaped to a conclusion no doubt formed by your own habits as a troll.

There is another race realist called ‘Byzer’ who has turned up recently at HP and is playing a good game, and a fellow called seanT (son of the writer DM Thomas) who flirts with race and IQ often. But imagine the impact if ten of us were in there pitching.

HP is in two minds about ‘ethnicity’, now that it is so full of Jews who fight their corner against Evil Muslims as a race rather than as believers in Judaism. They tie themselves in knots trying not to be ‘racist’. Imagine the confusion we could sow- and for some reason a lot of blog readers still take that site seriously, so the ‘memes’ of race realism would be propagated a lot wider.

But if you prefer to go on swapping pix of beauty queens and tut-tuttting in privacy, so be it. La lotta continua!

Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:34 | #

Is not the whole idea of the “forgiveness of sin” more pivotal in ones own redemption or salvation? Isn’t it an effort to move closer to Christ or frame one’s belief or actions in Christ’s image?

Having been schooled in vengeance for so long, my Dad always told me ‘Christ turned the other cheek and look what they did to him’, it’s not a natural position for me. However, it does not appear the the Price’s foregiveness is aimed at making the biologically infirm walk straight.

Posted by Count Sudoku on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:35 | #

I think “trolling” is an excellent idea, I do it myself although I don’t consider myself a troll because I always get a feel of what can and can’t be said on a board before I start posting. Sometimes I even link to this site which I hope no one has a problem with. MR has some of the best writers I’ve seen so it is unfortunate you guys don’t have the time/inclination to go on some of these boards and kick ass.

Posted by Englander on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:59 | #

I’ve often thought that some of the highly intelligent, articulate and informed posters that drew me to this blog in the first place could do a lot of good ‘out in the field’.

Posted by alex zeka on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:27 | #

Matt, Do you know how trigger happy Harry is with the hate-dars? Has he banned anyone yet?

Posted by Matt O'Halloran on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:31 | #

Alex- Rarely someone is banned for a few days for being annoying (not me, so far) but they are pretty tolerant- far more so than the ‘libertarian’ Asperger’s crowd at Samizdata.net. As pro-war recovering leftists with a strong Jewish presence, the Harryites are sensitive to being accused of philosemitic and pro-American reflexivity about warmongering, and they obsessively feud with former comrades, e.g. anti-war groupuscules and bogeymen such as George Galloway. But since the Harryites have to justify their atavistic anti-Muslim/Arab line somehow, there are all sorts of opportunities for race realism to creep in.

They don’t like racial ‘determinists’, but I’m not such a one, which is why I don’t buy the idea (common on MR) that every man with a significant amount of Jew in him, no matter what his stated opinions and alliances, is working to the same ethnic end.

Posted by Matt O'Halloran on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:41 | #

PS: There was another example of Beeb problem-handling on the Ten O’Clock News last night. It had to report the sentencing of the Kensal Green Tribe at some length, with the distastefully lachrymose statement from the fiancee (Adele Newman- Jewish?) for the tabloid viewership. And (gasp!) the BBC had to show pictures of the miscreants which would reveal they were not only ‘teens’.

So shortly afterwards there was an item of equal length about an equally dreadful crime: a lot of coppers in Hertfordshire had been swapping an email clip of a man being chased by cops in Atlanta and decapitating himself when he slipped and fell. He was black, see, so that proves that the Herts coppers (including the coloured ones) were ‘institutionally racist’ for taking an interest in this, and must be disciplined, all 140 of them, if they forwarded the clip- but not if they just watched it. And to help us realise the surpassing importance of the incident, we had a picture of the Blessed Stephen Lawrence flashed up and a recap of how the Met too were (and doubtless still are) ‘institutionally racist’.

There was also, a propos Michael Grade’s move, a long screed about how TV is changing and folk can now pick their own programming instead of the Great and the Good choosing what they should be told. Like news, for instance?

Posted by Lurker on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:33 | #

Check this link:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/decapitation.asp

I dont know if me posting that would get me disciplined at Herts police…

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