More tales from the mainstream media ...

Posted by Guessedworker on Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:10.

HOW BOAT PEOPLE ARE WELCOMED ...

... in Italy:-

Migrants break out of Italian camp

Hundreds of asylum seekers and hopeful migrants have broken out of a holding centre on the Italian island of Lampedusa and marched to the town hall.

Bernardino De Rubeis, the island’s mayor, said that 700 out of about 1,300 people at the centre walked out on Saturday morning.  “It is a very tense situation,” he said.

Police said the group forced open the gates of the camp and marched peacefully to the town centre to protest against their detention.  They were joined by a few hundred locals who also want the inmates transferred to bigger camps elsewhere in Italy.

The Italian interior ministry said there had been “no escape of illegal immigrants” because it was a camp for assistance rather than expulsion, “so there is no obligation to stay there”.

Many were already returning to the camp, it said in a statement.

... and in Thailand:-

Boat people claim Thai mistreatment

Thai authorities are grappling with a scandal over alleged mistreatment by soldiers of hundreds of ethnic Rohingyas refugees from Myanmar.  Details are surfacing about the plight of Rohingya boat people who were apparently beaten by Thai soldiers before being towed out to sea.

The allegations, apparently supported by photographs and witness accounts, have dented Thailand’s tourist-friendly image. Some of the migrants managed to reach Indonesia and videos of them arriving on the shore show them to be in a shocking physical condition.  Others are in detention on the Indian islands of Andaman. Two of those held there have spoken of being abused by Thai soldiers.

THE PRIORITIES OF UK EXTRADITION POLICY

From the Telegraph:-

Eighty Albanian killers “have settled in Britain”
Eighty convicted murderers have set up home in Britain after fleeing Albania, it has been claimed.

Many of the killers have allegedly exploited the asylum system to gain UK citizenship after being smuggled into the country by traffickers.

The Albanian chief of police last night complained that British courts were hampering his country’s efforts to have the criminals extradited.  “We have made a list of our people who are hiding in the UK. There are 100 criminals, and more than 80 per cent are wanted for murder and have been convicted in absentia,” Ahmet Prenci said.  “They have been given British citizenship despite our efforts to extradite them to serve prison sentences in our country.”

The Home Office has been alerted to the identities and backgrounds of the men, many of whom claim to be refugees from the conflict in Kosovo who would face human rights abuses if returned. But it is understood that problems finding translators and psychologists have delayed legal proceedings.

“We are unhappy that the courts repeatedly refuse extradition of these criminals. There is no reason for an Albanian citizen who has been involved in a crime not to be punished,” Mr Prenci said.

And from The Independent we learn that a computer hacker is fighting against the Home Office’s attempt to extradite him to America.

Hacker wins right to challenge extradition

The computer hacker Gary McKinnon was given a dramatic last-minute reprieve from the threat of extradition yesterday after the High Court said he could challenge a Home Office decision to hand him to US authorities. The 42-year-old from north London was on the verge of being extradited to America where he faces up to 70 years in a maximum security prison for a series of attacks on US military and Nasa computers shortly after the September 11 attacks.

Meanwhile, on Wall Street ...

MADOFF SCHMADOFF

From Reuters

Jews struggle to come to grips with Madoff

... To some in the Jewish community, the high-profile case has stoked fears of a revival of centuries-old stereotypes about Jewish businesspeople—particularly at a time when many Americans are reeling from the economic downturn, and Israel is the focus of much unpopular opinion because of the conflict in the Gaza Strip.

After Madoff’s arrest last month, the Anti-Defamation League said it had seen a raft of anti-Semitic comments on both mainstream and extremist websites, including offensive comments calling Jewish financiers greedy and untrustworthy and others suggesting that only a Jew could perpetrate such a massive swindle.

The scandal should not be viewed as a Jewish one at all—and Madoff’s Jewishness is irrelevant, says real estate investor Mort Zuckerman, who runs a charitable trust that lost about $30 million to Madoff.

Enron’s “Kenneth Lay was never identified as a prominent Protestant energy trader,” and Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who faces federal charges of improperly trying to sell the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama, is not referred to as a “prominent Serbian-American” politician, Zuckerman said.

Still, Zuckerman said, no one since Julius Rosenberg, executed in 1953 along with his wife, Ethel, for giving atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, “has so damaged the image and self respect of American Jews.”

Zuckerman spoke at a forum on the Madoff scandal last week at the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research in New York, a lively debate featuring experts on Jewish philosophy and money managers including pioneering hedge fund investor Michael Steinhardt and William Ackman, founder of the Pershing Square Capital Management hedge fund.

Steinhardt said he thought fears of renewed anti-Semitism were overblown. When the 1980s insider trading scandals involving junk bond trader Michael Milken and other Jews came to light, he worried about an anti-Jewish backlash that did not happen, he said.  The scandal “came and it went and there was nothing,” he said, saying he thinks the same thing will happen with the Madoff case.

MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE MIGHT NOT MAKE IT AS OUR UNIVERSAL MASTERS

Also from Reuters:-

Goldman Sachs stars lose their luster amid crisis

John Thain, Bank of America’s just ousted head of investment banking, securities and wealth management, is only the latest alumnus from Wall Street powerhouse Goldman Sachs to fall abruptly from grace as the legendary bank loses its aura of invincibility.

Thain - the former chief operating officer at Merrill Lynch - masterminded that bank’s sale to Bank of America Corp (BAC.N). But he was forced to leave BofA under the shadow of a $15.31 billion fourth-quarter loss at Merrill, as well as allegations he was a lavish spender.

Thain was among the many former executives from what once was Wall Street’s most profitable investment bank who went on to other top companies, as well as the upper echelons of government.  Once they were the brightest stars in the investment universe, but Goldman alumni—including Thain, former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and former Citigroup Chairman Robert Rubin—look much less brilliant now.  “The Goldman feet of clay is the way I look at it,” said Nancy Bush, an analyst at NAB Research, referring to the one-time “masters of the universe.”

Thain has made the biggest headlines lately. Along with a report that he spent $1.2 million redecorating his office shortly after joining Merrill Lynch in December 2007, his reputation was tarnished even more by a request for a bonus—after Merrill racked up more than $20 billion in writedowns.  When he joined BofA, Thain brought on at least one other highly paid Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N) executive—Thomas Montag, who was paid a bonus of $39.4 million plus a $600,000 salary—and other staff, such as former chief risk officer Noel Donohoe. Yet they did little to reverse the crisis at the firm, although their defenders say turning around Merrill, loaded up on risk as it was under its former management, might have been too much for anyone.

Beyond Merrill, former Goldman Chief Executive Henry Paulson’s reign as U.S. Treasury Secretary came to an end this month, overshadowed by increasing criticism of his expensive efforts to revive the U.S. economy. And earlier this month, former Goldman executive and Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin left his post as senior counselor at Citigroup Inc (C.N) after coming under fire for his performance at the giant bank.

The list of Goldman executives whose names have lost their luster extends to Robert Steel, former Goldman vice chairman, who was parachuted into Wachovia Bank to save it and wound up selling it to Wells Fargo & Co (WFC.N), and Neel Kashkari, the Goldman wunderkind, who at 35 was named by Paulson to manage the government’s $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program—an increasingly unpopular bailout. “The firm’s reputation has taken some hits,” said NAB Research’s Bush.

And here’s another reputation about to take a most unnecessary hit.

BETCHA THOUGHT DARWIN WAS A SCIENTIST

But liberal science writers know better, and now you’ve got to make that a social scientist.  From Reuters:-

Hatred of slavery drove Darwin ideas, book says

A new book on Charles Darwin says a passionate hatred of slavery was fundamental to his theory of evolution, which challenged the assumption held by many at the time that blacks and whites were separate species.

“Darwin’s Sacred Cause” is among the first of dozens of works about the 19th century scientist to appear in 2009, the bicentenary of his birth and 150th anniversary of the publication of his groundbreaking “On the Origin of Species”.

Its authors, Adrian Desmond and James Moore, also expect it to be one of the most controversial, because it explores what they call Darwin’s humanitarianism and challenges the notion that his conclusions were the result of pure scientific pursuit. “There’s got to be reasons why he came to common descent images of evolution when there was no precedent for that in the zoological science of his day,” Desmond told Reuters. “It comes out of anti-slavery. No one doubts that the Galapagos Islands, mockingbirds, the giant ground sloths and the giant tortoises were absolutely fundamental to his views and what he was interested in. But you have to look at some sort of marshalling principle. Every ship carried more than one naturalist generally in those days—why did none of them come to this kind of common descent view and yet most of them had seen exactly the same evidence?”

Moore said the book did not seek to reduce the argument to “I’m against slavery therefore I’m an evolutionist”, adding: “This is not a reductionist argument. We are making the case that it was necessary for Darwin to believe in ‘brotherhood science’ in order to see common descent. We can’t figure out where else he got it from.”

Brotherhood science?  Like the man says at the end of one of my favourite films, “Forget it, Jake ... it’s the Obamanation.”  Except this story is out of England.  Liberalism is clearly in its cups.

OK, well let’s finish on a note of understanding for our marvellously vibrant and, of course, diverse brothers across the world.  How will our lives be when these unique and miraculous human beings bless us, finally, with a mega-happy, culturally stunning and entirely hate- and crime-free, really, really equal society?  Well, for some lucky folks funerals will be completely free:-

Alleged acid disposal man for Mexico gang nabbed

A man accused of helping a Mexican drug kingpin dispose of hundreds of victims by dissolving their bodies in acid was arrested in the border city of Tijuana, authorities said yesterday.

A Mexican military statement said Santiago Meza Lopez confessed to disposing of at least 300 bodies over a decade, but authorities provided no further evidence to back the claim. Officials contend he dumped the bodies in graves, poured acid on them and let them dissolve underground.

... and for the rest of us the magic negro will become a reality:-

Newspaper claims suspect transformed into a goat

One of Nigeria’s biggest daily newspapers reported that police implicated a goat in an attempted automobile theft. In a front-page article on Friday, the Vanguard newspaper said that two men tried to steal a Mazda car two days earlier in Kwara State, with one suspect transforming himself into a goat as vigilantes cornered him.

The paper quoted police spokesman Tunde Mohammed as saying that while one suspect escaped, the other transformed into a goat as he was about to be apprehended.

The newspaper reported that police paraded the goat before journalists, and published a picture of the animal.

Police in the state couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

What is it with Africans and goats anyway?

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Comments:


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Posted by Lurker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:31 | #

Goats are inherently comedic, I don’t know why.


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Posted by Diamed on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:55 | #

The goat story is classic.  What better proof that we are not equal?  They’re holding a goat in jail on suspicion of armed car robbery.  These are hominids, not humans.  They’re like homo habilus emerging from a lost island hidden since the last ice age, only there are more of them on earth than the entire white race, and 50 million more are being imported into Europe.  It is the night of the living dead.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:11 | #

As this post from GW is a sort of grab bag, and appropos of nothing (I couldn’t find a relevant recent post, but what the hell) ... I posted the following comment in response to another interminable discussion of ” racial strategy” over at one of your competitor sites, WHITE AMERICA. It’s a mite confused, stream of consciousness, work-in-progress sort of thing. Thoughts?

Here is a possibly stupid suggestion: why don’t we stop having discussions of meta-strategy, and just all focus on increasing awareness of white dispossession and promoting defensive white preservationism in every venue, with every white person, in every way possible? These chat boards always remind me of a bunch of pre-Revolutionary Russian cafe-radicals, endlessly debating evolutionary vs revolutionary strategies for achieving socialism. What put those malign utopians over the top was not their precious theorizing, but the communistic consciousness that they had sown in certain sectors of Russian society, combined with the unforeseen circumstances of the First World War. Let us see how our future unfolds…

Whatever we want is less relevant than what we will be able to get, which will evolve with shifting physical realities. Secession? Reconquest of America? Re-segregation? Restoration of freedom of association? (I’ve yet to meet a racialist who wants to restore slavery, though I know one, and met another, who want to exterminate all non-“Aryans”, planet-wide.) Mere immigration moratorium plus abolition of affirmative racism? Circumstances will determine not only what we can get, but also what we should advocate at any time. 

I suggest we recognize that:

1. Western civilization (WC) is what we wish to preserve.
2. “WC could not have been created apart from the genetic endowments of the European peoples, nor is there any reason to suppose it will endure apart from that racial genome.” Sam Francis (with some paraphrasing at the end).
3. The presence of substantial numbers of non-whites in white societies thus represents a lethal threat to the perpetuity of those societies (yes, I’m collapsing a lot of empirical assumptions into that statement).
4. For many historical reasons, whites are both massively outnumbered on Earth, and, absent war or natural calamity, destined to shrink much further as a percentage of the globe’s inhabitants.
5. Unless whites somehow reacquire apartheid racial states (territories with sovereign polities in which all non-whites have been stripped of citizenship and physically removed), global ecological, economic and demographic pressures (to say nothing of ideological brainwashing), operating in tandem with white indifference or treason plus non-white (“family reunification”) agitation, will eventually reduce whites to physically insecure minorities across the whole planet. Our race will then likely eventually disappear through a combination of miscegenation and, later, wrt the racially heartiest whites, extermination.
6. Western Man is Ethical Man, a fact we might in this case decry, but cannot avoid. The moral case for the physical removal of existing non-whites from Europe can be made (though not easily, if we are concerned with non-whites born on European soil; this will require a substantial re-thinking of Western ethics, but it can and will be done). I’m not convinced, however, such a case can be made, at least pre-racial warfare, wrt the New World (though of course, the ethical case to merely stop immigration is simple, which begins with no one having a right to immigrate, period). It would have been so, so much better never to have allowed Third World immigration. But as long as the immigrants arrived legally, what would be our moral justification for expelling them (obviously this reasoning does not apply to illegal aliens)?
7. Pan-European nationalists should focus on saving Europe: specifically, racialists there, and Occidentalists everywhere, should, as their highest priorities, demand a) an immediate end to further legal immigration, refugees and asylees; b) the immediate deportation of all illegal immigrants, along with securing relevant borders; and, once this has been accomplished (but not before), c) the forcible repatriation of ALL non-Europeans from Europe.
8. Concurrently, racialists in Europe must agitate for laws banning/nullifying mixed race marriage, and incentives promoting white fertility (as exist in Russia today). 
9. All public policies and legislation within the nations of Europe must thereafter be reformulated (for the indefinite future, until the crisis of impending white extinction has been definitively averted) to secure the existence of the white race (and I would hope, to reestablish continuity with historic Western national cultures).

This is what I would like to see.

WRT my nation, America, racialists must focus on increasing awareness among the indoctrinated white masses of the disagreeableness and dangers of allowing our country to be racially diversified through immigration, as well as of the sociobiology of interracial differences in ability, temperament and behavior. Politically, we must be shrewd, as minorities have been, making the most effective initial demands for seemingly race-neutral policies that, however, benefit our race disproportionately (eg, protecting gun rights, sealing the border with Mexico), while constantly issuing other demands, like stopping all immigration, with greater intensity after initial victories.

My point, I guess, is really rather simple. There is no right strategy now that will necessarily still be correct in the future, so excessive theorizing about strategy is a waste of energy. Our energies should be concentrated on what is most feasible, which right now means 1) sealing the border; 2) reducing (eventually abolishing) legal immigration; 3) deporting all 20 million illegals (though not all at once, or in one area); 4) abolishing affirmative action; 5) maintaining firearms freedom; 6) granting tuition tax credits for parents who send their kids to private or parochial schools, or who homeschool; 7) defending and increasing/routinizing the use of the death penalty; 8) protecting the traditional Constitution, which slows the growth of the anti-white dispossessionist regime’s power; 9) opposing all new welfare spending, which disproportionately benefits non-whites at the expense of whites.

If we focus on these things, which together comprise a kind of “lowest common denominator” white nationalism, and which are also vital for the ultimate goal of securing a future for white children, we have our work cut out for the foreseeable future. Once we achieve some things (most importantly on immigration), we’ll proceed to make new demands, as circumstances dictate.


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Posted by Lurker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:26 | #

Leon - great post there!

I think the greatest problem is waking enough whites - to the problem facing them. Once thats acheived all else will follow. Any strategy should be increase the rate at which that happens.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:30 | #

Leon,

Western civilization (WC) is what we wish to preserve.

No.  The distinctive gene frequencies of the European peoples is what we seek to preserve.  This is about race, not civilisation, as Sam Francis understood.

excessive theorizing about strategy is a waste of energy.

We haven’t done any theorizing of substance, Leon.  That’s the problem.  It’s one thing to say “We must preserve our people”.  It is another to imbue the beliefs and tennets of the age with that nostrum, which is what has to happen.  At the moment, all the ideological seats in the house are occupied with neoliberal and neo-Marxist nostrums, plus a few Christian universalist nostrums.  They all have to go.  That won’t happen just by talking to people, because their life posture is dictated by the aforementioned nostrums and they can’t change that.

Change, if it is to be effected at all and sustained, has to be thoroughgoing ... a revolution at the level of core ideas.  These ideas have to be identified, and out of them a meta-language by which we can communicate them to our peoples has to be constructed.

If you don’t do this you won’t change anything, or you will change a few things for a short while.  Real change is philosophical.  The rest follows.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:57 | #

Leon Haller: “As this post from GW is a sort of grab bag, and appropos of nothing…”

It’s apropos of monitoring mainstream media publications for signs of an uptick in White racial consciousness.

“why don’t we stop having discussions of meta-strategy, and just all focus on increasing awareness of white dispossession and promoting defensive white preservationism in every venue, with every white person, in every way possible?”

Waking White people up to the negative consequences they will personally experience in the coming multiracial dystopia and to a positive affirmation of their peoplehood are important undertakings concerning the masses.

“What put those malign utopians over the top was not their precious theorizing, but the communistic consciousness that they had sown in certain sectors of Russian society, combined with the unforeseen circumstances of the First World War.”

We need the White leaders that will arise in the coming disintegration of the West to have a intellectually coherent vision of what will follow our Revolution.  We need these new elites to be able to instruct the people in the correct ways to see the outcomes we desire come to fruition - we need a game plan.  That is what the Nazis and the Bolsheviks did.

“Whatever we want is less relevant than what we will be able to get, which will evolve with shifting physical realities.”

That is not revolutionary thinking.  Bold ideas and the personal heroism of our people can get us all that we want.  What do we want?  To take back all that has been stolen from us: Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Russian Siberia and southern Africa.  If we want it bad enough, if our will is strong enough, we can have it.  Why settle for less?

“(I’ve yet to meet a racialist who wants to restore slavery, though I know one, and met another, who want to exterminate all non-“Aryans”, planet-wide.)”

That kind of thinking is the province of fantasists and psychopaths.

“Our energies should be concentrated on what is most feasible, which right now means 1) sealing the border; 2) reducing (eventually abolishing) legal immigration; 3) deporting all 20 million illegals (though not all at once, or in one area); 4) abolishing affirmative action; 5) maintaining firearms freedom; 6) granting tuition tax credits for parents who send their kids to private or parochial schools, or who homeschool; 7) defending and increasing/routinizing the use of the death penalty; 8) protecting the traditional Constitution, which slows the growth of the anti-white dispossessionist regime’s power; 9) opposing all new welfare spending, which disproportionately benefits non-whites at the expense of whites.”

All these things will never come to pass so long as the current regime which in fact HAS historical continuity with America of the past.  As Michael O’Meara hints at in his new editorial at the Occidental Quarterly: the current trends of American political life are structural.  It is the American experiment taken to its logical conclusion.  Look at the monstrosity that is Takimag.  Conservatism is dead, long may it rot.  There is now only White Nationalism to stand between the forces of genocide and our people.  White Nationalism is revolutionary - let us gird ourselves for Revolution!

P.S. So long as the America regime commands enough loyalty from White Americans that it can field an army of 10 million White men to crush its enemies, our White brothers in Europe will know no peace.  They will NEVER be able to do the things you suggest so long as the American regime stands.  To win everywhere, we must win here.  There is no way around that.  We must reclaim decisive control of North America or our people will perish, globally.


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Posted by Armor on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:39 | #

6. But as long as the immigrants arrived legally, what would be our moral justification for expelling them ? (—LH)

What would be the moral justification for not expelling them ?

Here is the alternative :

1. They are allowed to stay: society declines further, the white race dies out. Immigrants no longer care whether they live in the USA or in Mexico, as it has become the same lousy society.

2. They are expelled: they hate the hassle of having to move to a new home, they miss the Western comfort, but they begin new lives among their own people. Western society and the white race are allowed to thrive again.

It would be immoral to choose #1. It would mean that you think the lives of your own people are of no value, compared to the comfort of third-world immigrants. As if your children’s lives were a mere commodity for immigrant consumers.

8. racialists in Europe must agitate for laws banning/nullifying mixed race marriage

We are not going to get anti-miscegenation laws for the moment. But we should make clear our contempt for people who marry non-whites, and our intention to expel them if it can be done in the future. Moral condemnation is important.


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Posted by Armor on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:45 | #

When I try to distinguish between principles and practicality, I come up with this:

1. Principles
Our ideal is the preservation of our race on our land, no race-mixing, no immigration, no solidarity with non-whites living in our lands because it results in our destruction (but there is nothing wrong with helping non-whites on other continents).

2. Practical things we can push for right away:
- freedom of association
- a full stop to immigration
- expulsion of the illegals
- no transfer of white tax-money to non-whites
(That is to say: exactly the opposite of the current policy!).

3. Things we plan to do later, if we can:
- expulsion of non-whites (with exceptions).


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:37 | #

This,

”- no transfer of white tax-money to non-whites”  (—Armor)

will, all by itself, considerably take away the need for this,

”- expulsion of non-whites [...]”

as it will induce a great many to leave of their own accord, departing for home by the same portal through which they entered.  Combine the above measure with an end to <strike>affimative action</strike> affirmative genocide, a re-affirmation of freedom of association for whites, and a number of other reforms, and most of those incompatibles who hadn’t already left of their own accord will now do so.

If this phase of What Needs To Be Done be done right, incompatibles won’t have to be “rounded up and shown the door”:  they’ll simply deport themselves once they realize that with the new rules in place they and their children will have diminished prospects for a happy future here, something they’ll find with greater likelihood back home.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:39 | #

There are many, many, many, many, many ways to skin this cat, all of them humane.


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Posted by pasta on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:42 | #

An alternative to expulsion might be to let the unwanted aliens live in our lands until they die naturally, but forbid them to reproduce (forced sterilization?) and to exercise any subversive political influence. That way we would eventually get rid of them, too.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55 | #

Pasta,

Would you accept a swift bit of surgery “down there” so you could carry on cleaning pools in Carmel?  Maybe you would just scoot on back to Tlacoachistlahuaca with your manhood in tact.


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Posted by pasta on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:36 | #

@Guessedworker

Why not just let them choose? We live in a decadent age, many people care only about living as comfortably as possible during their lifetime. Many people abstain from reproducing voluntarily, in fact, many people even choose to undergo vasectomy voluntarily. I don’t know what Hispanics in the US would prefer, but why not let them choose?


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Posted by Homelander on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:44 | #

GuessedWorker

I don’t think you should dismiss the civilzational argument so quickly. Personally although I hale from a large family and have more near-kin than I can count, I haven’t actually had any children, and am well in my fifties.

At the same time, on days when it feels like most white kids are becoming Whiggers, I wonder whether - if we can’t free OUR race from this degenerate post-Modern Pop Culture - I wouldn’t rather that the People’s Republic of China came up with some super-virus, and started the human race over with Asians.

I doubt if I really believe that last…but it sure can feel that way. As a practical matter, there’s no content to rescuing white numbers, unless we will also redeem our culture.


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Posted by Lurker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:42 | #

There is certainly something comedic about a criminal with magic powers acting in this way. He could be something cool like a bear or a tiger or even just a wolf but no he chooses…a goat.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57 | #

After reading some of Darwin Online, it is apparent that Darwin’s moral opposition to slavery overshadowed his “anthropology” which was, after all, not his specialty as a naturalist.  Then the preemption of anthropology by Boas led the field to swim about in the stagnant waters of cultural determinism for a century.


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Posted by danielj on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27 | #

At the same time, on days when it feels like most white kids are becoming Whiggers

Whiggers or wiggers?

I think people jump too swiftly to conclusions when accusing the younger generation of “wiggerdom.”

Part of the behavior is simply adaptive - gotta get pussy after all and we must emulate them to a certain extent to achieve that goal.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:30 | #

Daniel: Whiggers or wiggers?

The one eventually begat the other.


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Posted by danielj on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:55 | #

True.

Sorry my Protestant forebearers were so violent and in such a hurry. Clearer heads didn’t prevail.

As for Cromwell, I’ll blame it on his *Englishness* and not his Puritanism smile

Perhaps we will dig up and behead the corpse of Voltaire together someday GW?


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:24 | #

“We can’t figure out where else he got it from.”

WTF? His grandfather!

Theories of common descent precede Darwin. The earliest I have information of is in a 1745 book by French physicist Pierre Maupertuis,Vénus Physique, in which he also proposed that inheritance was derived equally from each parent, in a particulate form, with something like Mendel’s ratio1. Charles’ grandfather Erasmus Darwin also proposed it (Zoonomia, 1795, section 39, “Generation”) in a speculative passage, where he thought all warm-blooded animals were descended from a single “living filament” created by God, getting closer to common descent for all organisms:

  All which seem to have been gradually produced during many generations by the perpetual endeavour of the creatures to supply the want of food, and to have been delievered to their posterity with constant improvement of them for the purposes required.

  ...would it be too bold to imagine, that all warm-blooded animals have arisen from one living filament, which the THE GREAT FIRST CAUSE endued with animality…? 2


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:34 | #

Correction

According to the Autobiography of Charles Darwin, (p.48) he claims his grandfather’s work made little impact upon him.

I had previously read the Zoönomia of my grandfather, in which similar views are maintained, but without producing any effect on me. Nevertheless it is probable that the hearing rather early in life such views maintained and praised may have favoured my upholding them under a different form in my Origin of Species. At this time I admired greatly the Zoönomia; but on reading it a second time after an interval of ten or fifteen years, I was much disappointed, the proportion of speculation being so large to the facts given.2

Darwin claims common descent was an original idea or at least one he shared with only one other, Wallace.

http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F350&viewtype=text&pageseq=9

But at that time I overlooked one problem of great importance; and it is astonishing to me, except on the principle of Columbus and his egg, how I could have overlooked it and its solution. This problem is the tendency in organic beings descended from the same stock to diverge in character as they become modified. That they have diverged greatly is obvious from the manner in which species of all kinds can be classed under genera, genera under families, families under sub-orders, and so forth; and I can remember the very spot in the road, whilst in my carriage, when to my joy the solution occurred to me;

[page] 121 THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY


It was his biological studies that convinced him man fell under the same rule of mutability.

As soon as I had become, in the year 1837 or 1838, convinced that species were mutable productions, I could not avoid the belief that man must come under the same law.

http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?viewtype=side&itemID=F1497&pageseq=136


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Posted by Svigor on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:46 | #

Goats are inherently comedic, I don’t know why.

Yeah I saw a scrum (what do you call a group of goats?  Herd?) of goats for the first time about a year ago and I found them highly amusing.  Maybe it’s because they’re domesticated, but not boring.  Cows are boring.  Goats make a lot of funny noises and look around a lot, with their beards a-swinging.  The fact that they’re randy omnivores doesn’t hurt.

Enron’s “Kenneth Lay was never identified as a prominent Protestant energy trader,” and Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who faces federal charges of improperly trying to sell the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama, is not referred to as a “prominent Serbian-American” politician, Zuckerman said.

Lol.  Protestant vs. Jew is a false distinction here.  Even if it wasn’t, Protestantism isn’t salient, Jewishness is.

Sucker argument.

Serbian-American is a qualified comparison.  Serbian-Americans aren’t established enough yet to be big news, the way Jews manifestly are, so the comparison breaks down.  You can bet your ass Serbian-Americans refer to or think of him as Serbian-American.  If Serbian-Americans come to dominate American finance, media, academe, and foreign policy, expect the public to catch on eventually.

Sucker argument. 

The implication is that Jews are singled out because of anti-Semitism; the term for this behavior is “chutzpah,” that charming Jewish trait of pissing down your back and telling you it’s raining.  Jews are highly ethnocentric, so they behave badly toward outgroups.  Then they cry racism against these outgroups when they complain.

Super-duper sucker argument.

BETCHA THOUGHT DARWIN WAS A SCIENTIST

Bury him in discovery, as the teevee lawyers say.  They’re playing with fire, so it will be a group effort.  Make it so it’s impossible for a moron to tell where Darwin ends and the manure begins.

Leon Haller:

But as long as the immigrants arrived legally, what would be our moral justification for expelling them ?

“Legal” doesn’t mean legitimate.  We don’t let people commit suicide.  Why should we let peoples commit suicide?  Even if we accepted the concept of racial suicide as legitimate, our race hasn’t agreed to suicide.  Instead, a handful of our elite has decided to murder us and call it suicide, a program that has proven unpopular from day one.  Then they propagandize (coerce) us into believing that the murder is a willing suicide.

Well, the crime began when we did not believe the murder to be a suicide.  It is only now, 40 years later, just beginning to be seen by some segments of society as a suicide.  The crime was against 1960s man, a far more healthy and sane man than 2000s man.  That’s the crime that demands restitution (to the racial/demographic status quo ante).

DanielJ:

I think people jump too swiftly to conclusions when accusing the younger generation of “wiggerdom.”

Part of the behavior is simply adaptive - gotta get pussy after all and we must emulate them to a certain extent to achieve that goal.

I agree.  I think a lot of it is a class gap.  I’ve know a lot of people some might call wiggers for this or that behavior, but the wiggers themselves despise niggers.  Obviously hard-core wiggers are another matter.  I haven’t met many of these, so I don’t know their attitudes toward blacks.

Eighty convicted murderers have set up home in Britain after fleeing Albania, it has been claimed.

Many of the killers have allegedly exploited the asylum system to gain UK citizenship after being smuggled into the country by traffickers.

I’m suprised this isn’t the default way to deal with criminals in places like Albania, Israel, Libya, etc.  Why pay to house and feed scum when you can export it to the UK or USA?


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Posted by Armor on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:47 | #

But as long as the immigrants arrived legally, what would be our moral justification for expelling them ?

The leftist point of view is that third-world immigrants are so incredibly stupid that they have no clue that most of us resent being replaced by them. I think they know they are destroying us. But each immigrant only contributes very marginally to our destruction. If one of them feels any remorse (probably a rare occurrence), he can argue to himself, correctly, that his particular presence makes almost no difference anyway. What’s killing us is their numbers. It is our responsibility to prevent them from coming, and to expel those already here.


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Posted by danielj on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:37 | #

I agree.  I think a lot of it is a class gap.  I’ve know a lot of people some might call wiggers for this or that behavior, but the wiggers themselves despise niggers.  Obviously hard-core wiggers are another matter.  I haven’t met many of these, so I don’t know their attitudes toward blacks.

You wanna giggle?

This is the hardest core wigger I know. A white (ALBINO) hip hop artist who wastes lots of lyrics effusively thanking the Black males of hip-hop for “raising” him in some sort of fatherly capacity.

He is probably irretrievably committed to wiggerdom and not worth reaching out to. Very, very few are these bad since they do not have the investment in a public image.

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To top it off, he converted to Islam when he moved from his 83% white home of Madison, Wisconsin to Minneapolis.


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Posted by danielj on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:42 | #

This is the hardest core wigger I know. A white (ALBINO) hip hop artist who wastes lots of lyrics effusively thanking the Black males of hip-hop for “raising” him in some sort of fatherly capacity.

Should read: This is the most hardcore wigger that I’m aware of. A white, albino hip-hop artist who wastes copious amounts of lyrical content effusively praising the black males of the hip-hop community for “raising” him in some sort of nebulous fatherly capacity that he never fully explains.

Very, very few are these bad since they do not have the investment in a public image.

Should read: Very, very few wiggers are this bad since they do not have the same investment in a public image and their commitment, as I stated earlier, is not primarily driven by ideology, but rather, by simple biological competition.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:46 | #

Is the more polite form of “wigger” “Wegro”?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:49 | #

In a brief off-the-cuff interview,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAfb7oEUJsI&eurl;= ,

Peter Brimelow calls for an immigration moratorium of ten to fifteen years’ duration, perhaps as long as forty if need be, citing 1924 to 1965 as precedent. 

I for one think the total immigration moratorium should last until we see either the Second Big Bang, the Big Crunch, the Bang-Bang, or the thermodynamic Heat Death of the universe but hey I’m willing to compromise — I’ll accept until the moon spirals into the Earth and crashes and the sun expands to red-giant status, engulfing the inner planets about ten billion years from now.  (I was going to say until Fjordman grasps the racial nettle but that would be, like, way too extreme, so I decided to go with the Heat Death of the Universe.)



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