MR Radio: GW on “The poles of Helios” - Part 1 online Comments:2
Posted by Scimitar on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:24 | # GW, The Realist mentions you in his latest article on Inverted World. Just letting you know.
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:58 | #
Well, Realist ... if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck, no? ... 4
Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:43 | # Interestingly, when one ‘googles’ the ‘inverted world’ website, the following statement can be seen : “devoted to race realism and combating the ‘whites as cancer’ myth”. As we all know, that Susan Sontag cancer analogy was a “Jewess done it” piece of work. 5
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:17 | # Thanks for the tip, Scimitar. Well, our “realistic” friend is only selectively so. I hear someone obviously obsessional projecting obsession on to others. 6
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:19 | # I’m still trying to get the “Radio” software to recognise my uploaded file, which is now split in two. Hope to get it resolved later today. Apologies for the delay - and, obviously, The Realist is right. There’s no philosophy at MR! 7
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:27 | # Due shortly to be censored at The Inverted World, the following comment on that “Philosophical Activism” thread:-
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Posted by Tommy G on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:32 | # GW, I don’t expect your comment will be posted at IW any time soon. I’m under the impression there isn’t anyone tending to the site. Realist left this message: [“I will be away for the next week and will not be able to answer any comments or e-mails. I look forward to replying to you when I get back.” By The Realist on 9/14/07 at 11:19 pm] 11
Posted by gongstar on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:49 | # I notice that Invoited Woild has a “Freedom of Speech” category. It’s that famous Jewish sense of humour at work again, no doubt. Jews, eh? Can’t live with ’em, do marvellously well without ’em. 12
Posted by Let's be sensible about the JQ on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:26 | # Note Paul Gottfried’s obfuscation/evasiveness wrt MacDonald’s ideas in the following VFR post: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/004562.html “Arguments like this try to ascribe rationality to tightly wired nut cases, who mistake Jewish doctors for the racial enemies of the Aryans or who go ballistic at the sight of Santa Claus. What MacDonald does is assume that nasty anti-Christian behavior engaged in by some Jews is something far more profitable than it is.” It ain’t about silly things like PC and Abe Foxman’s anti-Christmas crusades. It’s about the destruction of Euros as a distinct, self-governing people, something a little more serious than Gottfried alludes to. 13
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:03 | # The Part 1 mp3 is finally up and running. My sincere apologies for the delay, entirely a product of my fumbling computer skills. Part 2 will be re-mastered and posted tomorrow. 14
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:34 | # The question of urbanization vs Jewish influence as primary cause in modern degeneration is not so easily closed. The quantitative data I have suggest that “Jews” explain more about our circumstance than does urbanization. When I take all the demographic variables I have at the level of State ecology, “Jews” have a much higher average coefficient of determination than “Urban Population” or even “Urban and Suburban Populations” combined. My working hypothesis has been, prior even to this statistical support, that Jews have an extended phenotype, much as do beavers who dam rivers to create beaver lakes. The analogoys Jewish extended phenotype is the creation of trade route bottlenecks which manifest themselves as hyperurbanization. 15
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:10 | # James, You need to post at greater length on that hypothesis, so I can grasp it properly. My own understanding of causality here is really just a reading of history. It is unsafe to romanticise Man as brother to the ox, for sure. But he was better equipped in that life than as slave to the steam engine and the capstan lathe. The industrialisation of British towns and cities rendered the demand for universal suffrage, eventually, unopposable because the condition of the Working Class, being divorced from the consolation of a natural life, sanctified it in the eyes of the ruling elites. There is also the factor that Whiggish and aristocratic politicos perceived a constituency far outnumbering the industrious merchant- and Middle-Classes who supported the Tories. I have advanced the idea often here that the Tory years from Pitt the Younger to Liverpool were a period during which Tory ideas were de rigeur. Whigs frequently out-Toried Tories. Then the clamour for Reform changed everything, and shifted the zeitgeist to one with which the Tories could only treat through accomodationism - a process cemented by Disraeli, it’s true. But the great wheels of social history were not turned by Jews up to that point. However, if you think this is a simplistic reading, being merely historical rather than ethnographic, by all means advance your argument. 16
Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:20 | # Please see <a >the home page of my site, laboratoryofthestates.com</a> where I have posted a ranking of State ecological variables, ordered by the degree to which they “explain” all the other variables. In this case “explain” is defined the way it is in statistical correlation: coefficient of determination—or the square of the Pearson correlation coefficient “r”. I average these CoD’s across all variables to obtain a variable’s measure. Since some subsets of the variables are “over-represented” due to a detailed breakdown (whether by year of measurement or subcategorization, as in income levels), the average CoD changes with changing selection of variables (with the attention paid to certain kinds of variables). For example, before I hunted down incarceration rates, Jewish Percent of Whites explained more than any other variable, but when I added many detailed incarceration rate measures, Jews dropped somewhat but Russians (as of 1990) rose second only to HIV infection rates (a variable that has far fewer States reporting so provides weaker evidence). “Russians” are quite likely immigrants from the Soviet Union who were largely Jews enjoying the support of their coethnics for the migration. Urbanization, in either of the above measures, ranked lower than Jews/Russians as an explanatory variable. The reason this is important in the investigation of causality is seen from the three criteria social scientists use: <ol><li>The cause must precede the effect in time.<li>The two variables must be empirically correlated. Otherwise stated as: association is a necessary condition for causality.<li>The correlation between the two variables cannot be explained by the existence of a third variable.</ol> While I don’t provide evidence for or against Jews preceding effect, I do provide evidence for correlation at the level of State ecology. Further, although other variables cannot be ruled out, the high ranking of Jews relative to many other variables does evidence the relative superiority of adopting Jews as primary cause as a working hypothesis—said superiority being quantified by the relative coefficients of determination. I understand that the above is empirical rather than theoretical and I can go into the theory behind the hypothesis more, but suffice to say that my prior writings about vectorism/horizontal transmission leading to virulence are the main theoretic basis for my hypothesis that Jews are more cause than effect of hyper-urbanization. 17
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:09 | # James’ discussion above is extremely interesting and potentially, of course, exremely important. For a while I’ve been wondering about ways to quantitatively demonstrate, using possibly La Griffe’s methods or some other statistical demonstration, the existence of a prominent Jewish role distinct from confounding variables such as urbanization, generic liberalism, defective Christianity, and other aspects of non-specific “modernity.” (“Modernity” itself is in some ways, I strongly suspect, not “modernity” at all but simply Jewishness, a manifestation of heavy Jewish influence on societies where lots of Jews live, influence that had the same fundamental characteristics a thousand years ago it has today so wouldn’t seem to be properly thought of as “modern.”) Here, James is touching on exactly this general subject. 18
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:21 | #
Make that, “but simply diaspora Jewishness” (quite a different animal, in important ways, from Israeli Jewishness). 19
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:49 | # James’ discussion above is extremely interesting and potentially, of course, exremely important. Yes and this important result happened quite by “accident” as it were. I was investigating the cause of autism and ecological correlations are frequently used for preliminary epidemiology—to help guide privatization between various hypotheses of disease etiology. After I had gathered a large number of variables, I decided to run this ranking of coefficients of determination to see which variables explained other variables within my selection of possibly relevant variables in autism’s etiology. That’s when Jews popped up as a primary explanatory variable—not of autism—but as an averaged explanatory power of all other selected variables. While this wasn’t much of a surprise to me, given that I am a “virulent anti-semite” and hence attribute importance to Jewish effect on human ecology, it was somewhat surprising that Jews (or Jewish percent of Whites) ranked at the very top in my initial selection which hadn’t been selected with Jews in mind. Also, when I placed a higher emphasis on incarceration rates in an effort to detect social virulence, the fact that “Jews” were replaced by their recent migratory, and more overtly criminal, subset “Russian” (Americans) at near the top, was gratifyingly supportive of my migratory hypothesis of the evolution of Jewish virulence via horizontal transmission. 20
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:52 | # privatization -> prioritization (The spell checker got me on that one.) 21
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:11 | # I’d like to say a little about the theory: Jewish virulence expresses as the extended phenotype of hyper-urbanization primarily in response to the need to gather the fruits of agriculture to where they can be harvested by a non-agrarian population. The key to this is the centralization of wealth that is achieved by shifting taxation off of the holders of wealth, who are the primary beneficiaries of the State, and onto the yeoman class, who form the backbone of the State. This causes the eventual collapse of the State, but not before the centralized wealth can be harvested by migratory Jews. 22
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:44 | # One area that would be interesting to research here is rearing of Henry VIII leading up to his reliance on Continental rabbis for theological support of his divorce. Henry VII’s taxation of the baronage proportionate to their retainers—a form of wealth taxation—resulting in an astounding renewal of health and vigor of the British people, had to get the attention of Continental rabbis via the kvetching of the British baronage who were no doubt their primary contacts with the Brits. Henry VIII then dispensed with this tax early during his reign through legal sophistry worthy of a Talmudic scholar. As with any such shift, there is a generation or two of impressive hyper-urbanization favoring the baronage over the yeomen, leading to the weakening of the State—in this case to Cromwell and the readmittance of Jewry to England due to a Continental rabbi’s virtual declaration of Cromwell to be the messiah. This was also the era that drove many would-be yeoman from their lands along the Borders to seek New World lands. 23
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:15 | # A clue here may come from the fact that Henry’s elder brother, Arthur, was the focus of Henry VII’s rearing efforts—relegating Henry VIII to a probable life as the Archbishop of Canterbury with the logical relegation of Henry VIII’s education to “others”. Then, of course, Arthur died suddenly of unknown causes. 24
Posted by Andy on Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:11 | # I am looking forward to listening to this. What do I click on? 25
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:52 | #
We have a technical issue with the upload of this file, so please do not download it until I give it the all clear.
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