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At the turning point in the Ukraine War I didn’t even know that the old Cold War CIA front Radio Free Europe was still active until I came across an interview at its site with a Washington analyst named George Barros. He said everything that I have been picking up elsewhere about the new generation warfare that Ukraine is developing to frustrate, starve of materiel, and drive out the Russian invader in the south of the country. The interview is beneath the fold. RFE/RL: Ukrainian officials have claimed they are engaged in a strategy of creating “chaos within Russian forces” by launching a counteroffensive targeting Russian supply lines deep into occupied territory, including a spate of recent attacks in Crimea. Is this the southern counteroffensive that many observers of the war have been waiting for and how is this strategy likely to change the battle lines across Ukraine? George Barros: This is part of the counteroffensive. These targeted precision strikes that the Ukrainians have been conducting against logistical targets throughout southern Ukraine, as well as in occupied Crimea, are part of a coherent Ukrainian counteroffensive in order to regain control of the west bank of the Dnieper River and the upper part of Kherson Oblast. Also, it’s important to remember that strikes against Crimea do not violate Ukrainian commitments to Western partners about Ukraine’s nonuse of Western weaponry against Russian territory because this is territory that Russia illegally took, back in 2014. Since then, Crimea has become a massive Russian military stronghold, from the Black Sea Fleet to airborne forces. It is also where Russian supply lines run directly between Russia itself via the Kerch Strait bridge into southern Kherson, which directly supports Russian frontline troops. Therefore, if [Kyiv] is seeking to hollow out Russian forces [in that area], the Ukrainians are doing a smart job by targeting [various strategic infrastructure] that can degrade Russia’s ability to be able to move heavy military equipment. A lot of the Western observers have been expecting to see a grandiose, large-scale Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson, but the Russians have reinforced this territory now and brought in lots of equipment and more units [and] they’ve created multiple prepared defensive lines. The Ukrainian response has since been to degrade the supply lines required to sustain those frontline positions so that over time they might be able to actually break through. RFE/RL: I’ve seen some observers of the war say that Ukraine is doing these attacks because they can’t muster the manpower and material needed for this big counteroffensive. But it seems you’re saying that this is a deliberate Ukrainian strategy to first weaken and degrade Russian forces and then make a push for territory? Barros: The Ukrainians don’t want to engage the Russian defenses head on. What they want to do is to degrade it to the point where it actually becomes manageable. The example of how the Ukrainians retook Snake Island is useful here. The Ukrainians did not retake Snake Island by sending airborne forces or launching an amphibious force to physically go clear the island. Instead, they did consistent strikes on Russian assets that were on the island to make it so that holding the island was extremely costly for the Russians until Russian commanders decided that the costs were greater than the utility of holding it. We’re seeing a similar approach now in the south around Kherson and to a degree in Crimea as well. RFE/RL: We’ve seen some Russian attacks on Ukrainian forces in the south and in the north, but one of the big questions for a long time has been what is Moscow’s ability to muster enough manpower to sustain itself over time and meet the objectives that it has set for itself. How is Russia dealing with those issues? Barros: The Russians are trying to continue to gather what forces they can through these different force-generation efforts. [At ISW] we’ve identified a couple of different distinct lines of effort. For example, Russia has a concept of what they call national battalions, which are essentially an effort for various oblasts and regions to generate volunteer units. They usually call them battalions, but they’re putting together groups of between 300 to 400 troops per unit. They’re often recruiting people with no prior military experience and in some cases are sending them to the front line with just 30 days of training. In some cases they’re also not even able to muster a full 400-man unit and are instead just sending them in piecemeal. That’s not going to generate enough effective combat power and it certainly takes far more than 30 days [of training] to create a good soldier that is capable of operating in a combined arms mechanized war, which is what the Russians are conducting. There are also other parallel [recruiting] efforts under way, from granting clemency to convicted prisoners if they’re willing to deploy to Ukraine to using dirty tactics to effectively [trick] young recruits into signing a contract to go to the front line. That’s all to say that Russia will have difficulties mustering enough forces for effective combat power but will continue to try all it can to get soldiers without actually calling for a mass mobilization. RFE/RL: So where does that leave us in the weeks and months ahead? We are seeing reports of Ukraine training partisans and using special forces selectively behind Russian lines and the Kremlin appears to be moving forward with its referendum plans for parts of Ukraine. What else is likely to shape the situation on the ground and elsewhere? Barros: One question is if Ukraine can successfully get this counteroffensive going in the next six to eight weeks and get to the point where they can sufficiently degrade Russian forces and hollow them out. I’d also expect an uptick in more coordinated partisan efforts from Ukraine and we’ve already seen Ukrainian officials set the conditions for them to potentially be part of the counteroffensive. With regards to Russian efforts to take different areas, the Russians are somewhat frantically trying to annex these territories with sham referendums. People should remember that the Kremlin’s stated objective has been consistent: to gain full political and territorial control over Ukraine. While we might hear statements from officials that they are only really focused on the Donbas or the south, it’s about all of Ukraine. Even if Moscow doesn’t succeed in doing this all at once, any foothold they can maintain in Ukraine will be used in the future to continue what was already started. Comments:2
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 16:46 | # It is irrelevant whether Dugin is aware of the Jewish Question or not, or whether he has a fit critique of the neo-Marxisation and corporatisation of life in the West. Putin’s struggle to dismember and dissolve Ukraine is not about Jews or the West but about the mystical attachment of Russian elites to empire and a destiny of greatness. Not a single people in “the sphere of interest” which Putin seeks to regain is willing to be dragged into another Russian empire. They would all fight as Ukraine is fighting. That should be enough to tell you where right resides. For us, the struggle in Ukraine is also about the freedoms of the West, albeit only vestigial now. Our capacity to dissent is wholly dependent on their survival. If we desire to continue into the future fighting our fight, then we need to stop being intellectually lazy and weak, and think ahead to a future in which America is collapsing and the Davos prescription is ineluctably Chinese. But, as I have said before, I have encountered scarcely anybody in nationalism (excepting Daniel) who is capable of thinking past the bleeding obvious. It’s frustrating to continually hear the same lumpen assertions, as if our enemies today are our only conceivable enemies in this world. 3
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 18:01 | # First and foremost Dugin is concerned with Russian nationalism. This comment from the article I linked to @ 1 sums it up quite nicely:
JQ aside, Dugin is clear about the importance of nationalism; moreover the importance of the future direction/form Russian nationalism may take.
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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 22:13 | # Thorn, nationalism in all its varieties is always a universalisation of the particular. But there is a 180 degree divergence between an ethnic nationalist position, which recognises the ethical universality of the native principle and the equal right in Nature of all particularism, and imperialism, which recognises the universal supremacy of one particularism. Dugin is a nationalist in the same broad sense that any imperialist is a nationalist. But his nationalism is 180 degrees oppositional to any other people’s, and quite useless for the advancement of such. As ethnic nationalists we are bound to oppose Duginism, Hitlerism, Judaism, etc, even though all may be nationalisms. They can never be our nationalism. 5
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 22:20 | # This interview raises the question of whether Zelenski is an aggressor or is he operating under coercion preventing him from negotiating a peace deal with Russia. Also, it helps clarify the actual goal of Russia’s “special military operation.”
RTWT https://www.thepostil.com/ukraine-weapons-or-peace-a-conversation-with-jacques-baud/
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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 22:31 | # @4 I get what you’re saying, GW. But if, say, Paul Weston proclaims he is an English nationalist, I automatically assume his definition is centered in the genetic component of the native English population. Same goes for Dugin and Russia. I don’t think we need to spell those assumptions/distinctions in every freakin’ comment. Is Dugin a WN? Probably not but his type of nationalism seems cool with me. 7
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 22:39 | # Ethnicity= a group of people who share a cultural identity or heritage. Dugin definitely qualifies as an ethnic nationalist. 8
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:07 | # JB: But it is important to understand that Russia’s objectives are not quantitative, but qualitative in nature. In other words, it is not about gaining territory, but about destroying the threat against the Russian-speaking populations of Donbass and Crimea. That’s an out and out lie. No serious observer believes the Donbas nonsense. What, after all, is Russia doing in the south? What, after all, is the Russian Army doing forcing men and boys off the streets of Luhansk and Donetsk and throwing them virtually untrained and without proper uniforms or modern weapons into the front line? On Putin’s actual objectives I can quote from quite a good and learned essay on the geopolitical outlook published yesterday by Jose Miguel Alonso-Trabanco. But what’s the point? You don’t want to look at the geopolitics. You only want to huddle together with the rest of the nationalists in the fond belief that Putin is on your side! If you want to know what ethnic nationalism is, ask me. I know more about that than anyone else you are in contact with, or quite likely will ever be in contact with. I can tell you for starters that ethnic nationalism is not all nationalism, and not all nationalists are ethnic nationalists. Ethnic nationalism is a specific politics (namely, of the life interests of the kinship group). If you believe first and foremost in the right of the people of the land, without exception, then you are an ethnic nationalist. Hitler was not an ethnic nationalist or he could not have launched Operation Barbarossa. Likewise Putin is not an ethnic nationalist or he could not be fighting in Ukraine or absorbing the white Russians via the corrupt government of Lukashenko. Imperialists will be nationalists, yes, but imperialism steps on the ethnic nationalism of other peoples. The distinction matters. 9
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:12 | # “On Putin’s actual objectives I can quote from quite a good and learned essay on the geopolitical outlook published yesterday by Jose Miguel Alonso-Trabanco. But what’s the point? You don’t want to look at the geopolitics. You only want to huddle together with the rest of the nationalists in the fond belief that Putin is on your side!” LMAOOOOOO Putin is on Russia’s side. Period. Kudos to him for that! Russia could have been an ally of the West (and Russia certainly wanted friendly relations with the West) however the West has jackasses who dominate our ruling-class. A few sane voices such as Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump et al. were gesturing towards forging a friendly relationship with Russia (they were wise to the consequences for not doing so) but the entire globohomo establishment roundly rejected such heresy. RUSSIA IS OUR ENEMY!!! They screeched. So here we are, teetering on the brink of a nuclear war. Or at best Western European countries will suffer from energy shortages leaving many living in cold, barely heated homes, and eating whatever they can scrounge up. But it’s all for the greater good, doncha know. H/T to those who instigated the Maiden Revolution. They really set us all on a course towards lasting world peace. /sarc 10
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 13:23 | # First Weatern intelligence agencies instigate a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine ... then they blame Russia for the suffering. And what a great justification it created to usher in The Great Reset! Eat your bug sandwiches, mofos! Conspicuously, Biden and most other Western leaders are reading off the same script as Macron. All following instructions from the same playbook.
read more….https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/macron-warns-sacrifices-ahead-after-end-of-abundance-01661332507 11
Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:21 | #
No, the Kremlin is seeking global hegemony in concert with China. The collapse of the dollar reserve, America and the West is the means by which Sino-Russian hegemony is achieved. Read Glazyev.
Like all supremacist imperialists, the Kremlin Establishment - basically the Siloviki - seeks to be unbound and free to self-aggrandise over the prone body of its new subjects. This is a contest between global forces’ both of which are Davosian. The question is: which offers us the greatest opportunity to make our voice heard? Because that is the one which we must hope wins. I have explained this to you many times and you never respond to it. You simply revert to the lumpen nationalist default of attacking “the West”, as if that is going to help in a scenario of Western collapse. You have two enemies, but one of them does not share your mind, your culture, your traditions in any way, is existentially hostile and, at best, will do absolutely nothing to advance our people’s cause. Quite the contrary, because the creative genius of white peoples is a source of fear.
It’s the price of keeping open the possibility of fighting back. You will never speak in the Chinese future for the world.
Yet China is leading the way for Davos. Is there any resistance in the Chinese model? 12
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:51 | # “The question is: which offers us the greatest opportunity to make our voice heard? Because that is the one which we must hope wins. I attack what the West has become, not what is was or what it should be. The reality of the situation in the West has become quite obvious. That is the West is no longer a liberal democracy; that ship sailed decades ago. Our system of governance has transitioned into “woke” corporatism aka “woke” fascism. Of course there is no tolerance for anything pro-white under such a system ... none whatsoever ... zero, zip, zilcharoo. Freedom of speech or freedom of expression can be exercised only if it comports with the ideologies of “Wokeism.” Anyone who dares to deviate from that gets ‘cancelled’ or worse: tossed in the clink under the guise of domestic terrorism. Remember President Bide, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and FBI director Christopher Wray all publicly, and on numerous occasions, proclaimed the greatest threat to homeland security is white nationalism/white supremacy. Virtually the entire Justice Dept is designed to fight a myth: Structural racism. And you as an ‘ethnic-nationalist’ want to defend that?!? Amazing. Simply amazing. 13
Posted by Thorn on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:17 | # BTW, I read an article by Jose Miguel Alonso-Trabanco - the one I think you were referring to. Excellent piece but contains nothing that hasn’t previously been written about. Scores of journalists have very similar takes. https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/assessing-potential-outcomes-of-the-ukraine-war/ 14
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:45 | # Thorn, do you want Davos by way of China or Davos by way of America? That is the choice. There is no option of bringing down what the West has become without radical Asiatic socialism and and the Chinese model of social control. Do you not understand that? Frying pan. Fire. You think you can jump of the frying pan and something will be better. Perhaps you should explain what that better is, in your view, and how it follows from the collapse of the West. First, though, excise any surviving presumption that the banking and corporate actors of Davos are not fully committed to China. Neither option removes global elitism from the control scenario. My guess is that everything you have imbibed from those ubiquitous pro-Russian Western nationalists you follow wrongly assesses globalism and doesn’t think at all about the greater threat of China. 15
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 11:31 | # Trabanco is good, overall. I don’t agree with everything he has written in that essay. He also seems to be what I would call a reader of the near, but this is rather usual among geopolitical folk. They tend to be so because they are perennially bound to the realities of power and the facts it creates “on the ground”. They will, to their credit, routinely project developments and contexts forward. But they very rarely enter the contest of ideas, because although ideas are the creative force of history they tend to impact too early for students of “events”. Overall, I prefer the approach to power of someone like Clare Ellis or even Kevin MacDonald, because it discounts the struggle for power for power’s own sake, and thus keeps faith with human meaning and the possibility of change. But even with such civilising influences I would caution against the appeal to authority. At least, that’s the case if we are actively engaged in thinking - as we absolutely must be, for no one, not even Martin Heidegger, has set down in black and white our peoples’ way to a secure and vivifying life. Historically, such vast change is brought forth from the crucible of an intellectual school. Unless one counts GRECE we Europeans have produced no such school, nor the original thinkers to fill it. Perhaps, then, it is not a surprise that so many nationalists can’t conceptualise the path of globalism sans American power and our Western ways. 16
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 12:05 | # Take a chill pill, GW. FWIW, back in 1972 (I was a young kid) I fully understood the consequences of President Nixon’s resumption of harmonious relations with China. It was clearly understood that competition with high paid American labor with de facto Chinese slave labor would result in hollowing out the manufacturing sector of the U.S. economy. So easy to predict. However China has its own set of problems which will cause its current success to have a limited shelf life. Their rapid progress is likely to fizzle-out. Within the next few generations technology will control most all aspects of the life for ppl living in the developed countries - the social-credit score system being one example. But our own authoritarian “woke” ruling-class will force those restrictive conditions on us, not China. Looking further into the future, say 1,000 years from now, and if demographic and migratory trends continue as predicted, the white race will have become in essence extinct - subsumed by the darker races. The East Asians fate will follow that same trend - possibly at a faster rate. Have you looked at the population replacement rate of east-Asian countries lately? As one sage columnist over at the website Western Spring hypothesized: Earth is on the path to becoming a negro planet. Cuba is a microcosm of the larger process taking place on Earth. Sixty years ago the demographics of Cuba was 90% white 10% negro. Currently it’s 15% negro, 45% mulatto and 40% white. Just a matter of time before Cuba is zero percent white. Of course Western European countries and North America are next up on the list. You wanna argue with me on that?!? The Islamic religion and the Negro population are growing exponentially whilst the Chinese, east Asians and Europeans are facing a population collapse - and, of course, that includes Russian Caucasians. 17
Posted by Timothy Murray on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 20:15 | # Please bear with me, I am no intellectual and I am flabbergasted by the divergent terms used by the various peoples of Europe. The discussion on “White” in the TANSTAAFL thread is a discussion of transcendentals—things that transcend the various nations of Europe (world) and can unite them. My expectation and motive, is that a secular transcendental (People of the truth…which also will not work, but a newbie can brainstorm a bit (: ) can be discovered that will motivate and unite the clans (tho I expect famine and cold to be that soon) to fight the enemy; since, religious transcendentals (mine) must be in accord with the Natural Law—i.e. evident to rational beings and from that a large force of the religious (my folks) and the biologicals/materialists/normanhobbs (which are also dedicated to truth) can unite to defeat the enemies of the true, good and beautiful. i.e. team materialist/team religious unite… To wrap this back to Ukraine via Iran Mr. Dugin and E.M.Jones .... It turns out that Mr. Dugin and Mr. Jones where in Iran discussing Transcendentals with the Iranians. Transcendental principles and first things matter; the jew knows this, which is why they attack them so viciously, Embrace , Extend and Execute them (See First Things, National Review…etc) and allow and even fund those non-transcendentals that can do no harm to them (Alex Jones, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell,...Bill Buckley…). Things that matter, they kill.. see the Gold Standard on the U.S. Money and Mr. Dugin’s beautiful daughter. To wrap this back to Ukraine…(my view, please lambast as I enjoy frank talk)... The Ukrainians, like my fellow Scots-Irish in America who have formed the tip of the spear in the U.S. Marine Corps for generations, are the proxy warriors for the jews against Christendom. In my view…Putin, like Dugin is aware of and fighting for the Transcendentals against the forces of darkness, the jews arming and inciting those proxy warriors. If I am wrong on this point, my entire thesis fails, completely. Christ Langan, highest I.Q. on the planet (who blocked me on gab (: ), insists that Putin is a stooge of klaus schwerb. Therefore, the Ukrainian soldiers/army/forces are not the issue here; they, like my neighbors are pawns in a larger game; they are pawns of a tribe that hate them AND Putin (Let’s you and Putin fight!) Putin is not at war with Ukraine, he, and the Russians are at war with the jews—globohomo, and the Ukranians are just the fodder in the fight, the real targets are in WEF/Brussels/NYC/D.C. etc…i.e. worldwide jewry.
As to the mechanics of warfighting….my information comes from: One can also infer the truth by inverting everything the American press states as true to be false.
*also…premier chef, Thomas Keller.
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 23:23 | # “One can also infer the truth by inverting everything the American press states as true to be false.” Yep, the American corporate media doesn’t necessarily report objective facts; instead, they propagate carefully crafted narratives. Narratives that advance agendas. For all the obvious reasons, the ‘climate change’ narrative is at the top of their list. The anti-Russia pro Ukraine narrative tops the list too. 19
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 13:18 | # Tim, don’t just swallow the “West is globalism” line. Globalism doesn’t need the West at all. As with Thorn, if you cannot operate in a framework which leaves behind the usual concerns about “the left”, “the right”, “the media”, “Jews”, et al, and contemplate the loss of everything inhering in our life, then ask yourself what comes after ... if you can’t achieve that, then you too are condemned to miss the geopolitical point. Because this Russian war on Ukrainians is not about nationalism versus globalism. The Ukrainians are actually acting as ethnic nationalists, which the Russians aren’t. They are acting as imperialists. Dugin is an imperialist, not an ethnic nationalist. But notwithstanding that, ultimately this is a war for Chinese economic, financial and military hegemony; and that means a Chinese-ordered Davos “solution”. As an easy starter, what happens when the dollar loses reserve status and the US economy can no longer export its debt? Come on, think the thing through. I may be alone. But I’m not wrong. 20
Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 14:14 | # GW asks: “what happens when the dollar loses reserve status and the US economy can no longer export its debt?” I’ve just finished reading Tainter’s “The Collapse of Complex Societies” and Zeihan’s “The End of the World Is Just the Beginning” which come to somewhat conflicting inferences regarding what happens. Zeihan seems to think “fortress America” is going to come out on top globally despite the loss of the dollar’s loss of reserve currency status whereas Tainter is less optimistic absent the emergence of a more rational global order that can make the transition to a much higher level of energy production rather than trying to reduce energy consumption. What both of these guys miss is the glaringly obvious fact that globalization of the economy could have been done by restricting it to international transport of goods and information without the international transport of military aged men. However, at least Tainter’s taxonomy of societies asserts that what he calls “states” must defend territory even if they aren’t primarily ethnically based, but then he utterly fails to address what this means when the military aged men of a state are being betrayed by their elites with the importation of foreign military aged men and, as a consequence, helping to make family formation less affordable thereby adding to the demographic collapse. Zeihan’s analysis asserts that China can’t overcome its demographic collapse whereas the US, while it will continue to collapse, won’t suffer as much loss of population—leaving it unstated that the reason the US’s total fertility rate isn’t as bad is because of government subsidy of immigrant and black fertility via poverty programs not available to the middle class. Moreover, Tainter is more rational in his treatment of complex societies as essentially embodying a legitimizing quasi-religious narrative so that the elites possess moral authority. I only bring these guys up because they are the best our Western elites are offering us and they aren’t even being paid that much attention to by those same elites. What’s going to happen? One of two things: Sortocracy Why Sortocracy? As Tainter correctly asserts, religious moral authority is essential to state legitimacy and the only times in European history there was even an attempt at supporting assortative migration in support of religious freedom were in the wake of the establishment of the nation state with the Treaty of Westphalia and then, after that lesson was forgotten by The Royal Society’s reaction to the 1666 religious enthusiasms, the US constitution’s originally intended limitation on the Federal government that permitted pioneers to vote with their feet and establish religions at the State level. How do we preemptively establish Sortocracy to avert a Thirty Years War which would undoubtedly invite the kind of Chinese imperialist aggression against the West that GW fears? Property Money BEFORE the US dollar loses its reserve currency status. 21
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 14:17 | # “They are acting as imperialists. Dugin is an imperialist…” Perhaps but only in their (and your) imaginations. Reality tells a different story. That fact is Russia woefully lacks the might to engage in imperialist activity. This article was written prior to the Ukraine invasion but it still accurately spells out why Russia is not imperialist. Is Russia imperialist? 22
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 14:57 | # So, Thorn, on another thread I have provided you with the list of Russian military actions and threats of action in the Caucasus nations to the south of Russia. Six of them. To the west, Belarussia is being absorbed under the State Law while Ukraine has been invaded. What other nation can you name which is engaged upon such a programme of expansion? You are only denying the imperial reality of the Russian Federation (already a multicult of 193 ethnicities) because you are just too stubborn to detach from the ridiculous naivety of nationalist opinion. There is nothing more I can do to persuade you to stand alone. 23
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 16:04 | # Weren’t those Caucuses nations, such as Chechnya, loaded to the brim with Islamic terrorists? Did not Russia do the right thing by attempting to clean out those Islamic rat nests thus putting a stop to the increasing number of horrific terrorist attacks targeting innocent Russian civilians? Including deliberately targeting school kids? Kudos to Yeltsin for initially taking action. At least he got that one right; which proves he wasn’t a total buffoon. 24
Posted by Timothy Murray on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 18:42 | # Hi Guessedworker ... Without knowing the details, a suspect a good test would be if the neocons are using those countries as proxies for the u.s. (yep, Belaruss is on this list of color revolutions). So, at least in the case above, Russia can be seen as battling the jews by stopping their proxy wars in the nub by occupying the country that the jews are using. Oliver Stone stumbled upon the methodology that david (?) eisen codified in his book, “The Playbook”. It is a template for fomenting color revolutions.. His (Youtube banned) Ukraine on Fire is a gripping documentary that outlines the process and the specific events in the Ukraine.
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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 28 Aug 2022 04:38 | # Thorn , in 1972 you were , it seems , as stupid as you appear now . Nobody in the USA , not even the ‘Austrian’ Jew in charge , Henry Kissinger , looked at Mao’s China and imagined an economic competitor to your now rotting country. GW , is , of course , correct, Putin is in charge of an Empire . However the heavy Jewish involvement in Ukraine raises questions about Nationalism , ethnic or otherwise. 26
Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:13 | # However , some Chinese diplomats have expressed concern that Biden’s reinstatement of Tik Tok is actually making American kids dumber than Beijing intended , thereby negating unintelligible propaganda goals . 27
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 28 Aug 2022 12:37 | # Malfunctioning Al writes “Thorn , in 1972 you were , it seems , as stupid as you appear now . Nobody in the USA , not even the ‘Austrian’ Jew in charge , Henry Kissinger , looked at Mao’s China and imagined an economic competitor to your now rotting country.” By the late 1970s and early 1980s the auto manufacturers in Detroit and other areas of the USA were closing down scores of plants, crating up the machinery, then selling and shipping it all to China. Actions like that require many years of pre-planning, dumbass. IOWs, TPTB knew well before 1972 the potential of China as a competitor. They also saw the tremendous potential for profit. They weighed to two and chose the potential for profit route ... and continue to do so. Word: Pro-white activism will remain unattractive thus an abject failure as long as stupid assholes like the Al Ross types continue to attach themselves to it. 28
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:31 | #
RTWT - https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/europes-virtuous-suicide 29
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 30 Aug 2022 14:00 | # I remain unconvinced that a Maoist thinktank wasn’t behind a gain-of-function of Jewish virulence in the West cultivated in “libertarian” and Chicago (ie: neocon) schools of economics starting as early as the US’s WW II alliance with both Stalin and Mao. People are really stupid to underestimate the Chinese. If you recognize Jewish virulence at all, just put yourself in Mao’s shoes at that time. Do you really think Chairman “Century of Humiliation” Mao didn’t have an intense interest in Jewish virulence? How hard would it have been to interfere with the few Jewish voices in the West that might have restrained Jews from destroying us all? THINK people! 30
Posted by Thorn on Tue, 30 Aug 2022 14:58 | # I just want to emphasize the point that it was common knowledge - during the entire 20th century - vis-a-vis the looming threat China posed to the West. That threat became especially clear during the 1960s when the Chinese became a nuclear power. Circling back to the early decades of the 20th century, Lothrop Stoddard was articulating the bloody obvious. His understanding of the potential East Asian threat wasn’t exactly a startling revelation; at the time, his message was pretty much received as a reaffirmation of what was regarded as a given. https://www.amren.com/news/2016/10/a-warning-from-the-past-lothrop-stoddard-pro-white/ 31
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:49 | # Read Lubinskas’s Amren piece on Stoddard which may represent a high-point in 20th century thought about the challenges facing the West. But neither Stoddard nor his contemporaries managed to identify Western individuality as the origin of strengths and weaknesses—in different but all important respects—that they are. Current thought has such an understandable allergy to “individualism” in the sense continually used to libel my views here—an allergy enthusiastically taken up by white nationalists generally—we are likely to go down in defeat. But perhaps some deus ex machina will rescue us from the abject idiocy that conflates immediate urgency (to unite in a war machine) with the state of affairs for which we should wage war. Urgency has a way of subverting rational deliberation and it seems those who, one would think, have the resources to be in a state of non-urgency are in an opposite state of opiated stupor born of centralized wealth and power’s insularity. This, by the way, is why I claim white nationalists aren’t serious—otherwise they’d be hammering on the idea I’ve set forth for 30 years: Replace taxes on economic activity with a single tax on liquidation value of net assets. 32
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 09:10 | # I thought we had agreed on individuality, James, as an evolutionary trait of European Man. That at least avoids the dreaded socio-political ism when the bounds are disrespected and inauthenticity, not to mention the liberal model, takes over. A wild and, of course, completely naive idea I have mooted in the past here, and thought about a few times, is the democratisation (and, ideally, racialisation) of money creation. Given that: (a) non-centralised digital money is quite likely to prove a bubble (and, anyway, is entirely dependent on access to the internet), and the coming centralised versions - CBDCs - will be employed for the total disempowerment and dispossession of the population, and ... (b) that hard asset ownership, including land, is being concentrated at an alarming rate in corporate hands as debt burdens are driven up, ... what is left that both defies centralisation and resolves the problem of security? Only, it seems to me, the individual his or herself. So, can the individual ... any individual and, theoretically, every individual ... issue money without the obvious nonsense of mass creation for mass expenditure? What definitions, standards and strictures on individual creators would have to be in place to control supply and make such a system work? How would peer to peer borrowing be controlled? How would government borrow from the mass of the people in a post-taxation age (rather than from banks and investor institutions buying gilts and bonds)? Lots of other problems, no doubt. But a world without banks and the trespasses of the state shimmers at a distance for anyone who can work it out. 33
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 09:47 | # Tim, I posted the following comment on the UK Spectator yesterday, trying to explain to someone who things are. For “western rulers” insert “the neocons” or “the Jews”:
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 13:42 | # “But neither Stoddard nor his contemporaries managed to identify Western individuality as the origin of strengths and weaknesses—in different but all important respects—that they are.” Yes, individualism is key to the advancement of European civilization. Individualism or the individualist atmosphere is, of course, conducive to creativity and personal achievement - both are incentivized by the rewards they produce. Europe advanced faster and further than all other civilizations bc of those incentives. Why are Europeans more individualistic than other races? We’re already well aware that evolution in the northern climes selected for intelligence and creativity. Also the advent of Christianity; it places great emphasis on the value and sanctity of each individual life. That, along with the concept that infringement upon man’s free will (being that man is created in the likeness of God) is an attack on Him. OTOH, most other cultures are subservient to the collective thus producing an atmosphere which suppresses individual creativity and-or the incentive for personal achievement; hence, intellectual/civilization stagnation. Of course post WWII, the trajectory of the White race has been on a fast-moving descent into post-Christian secularism, concomitant with radical-egalitarianism, post-modernism, moral relativism, anti-objectivity and altruist-collectivism, etc. ... Moreover, the aforementioned is overshadowed by the moral degeneracy/moral bankruptcy they fostered. 35
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 15:16 | # No doubt the Western MSM will characterize this report as “Russian propaganda.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/561816-russia-ukraine-counter-offensive-losses/ 36
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 17:06 | # GW, property money accomplishes most if not all of what you set forth as a goal for decentralization by subsuming central bank and governmental functions in a simple algorithm, the only political dimension of which is determination of when the money supply increases and when it decreases which can be accomplished by a periodic vote of the sovereigns and similarly setting the rate of demurrage. Everything else gets privatized. Determination of who the sovereigns are can be reduced to an apolitical objective criteria defining them to be all males of military age, ie: ages 18 to 46. Military aged males individually so-empowered with the monetary sinecure that now goes to bankers and politicians, will naturally assort themselves and their families into territories supporting ethnically homogeneous communities along the lines envisioned in Sortocracy. Those that do not will find themselves excluded from land held by more responsible males who will likely have wives and—most importantly—children to whom they are committed. There will likely be wars between corporations over disputes that cannot be handled by the private courts, but that cannot be helped. As with the poor who will always be with us, scum will always be with us and the price of cleaning out the scum will always ultimately include the flesh, blood and bone of the best men among us. All we can do is try to minimize the damage to the gene pool done by war by recognizing that so long as we have property rights and money, the men we call upon to make such sacrifices must be provided the resources to responsibly sire children. Something to bear in mind is that, as exemplified by the BLM riots in the wake of the George Floyd killing, the elites are hostile to property rights and are essentially begging to be bitch-slapped by Property Money. 37
Posted by Timothy Murray on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 18:42 | # Hi @GuessedWorker Thank you for the reply. Yes, your analysis is very good and coherent. Chris Langan on Gab also thinks that Putin is part of the great reset, and your view fits right in with that…
Add “Anglo-Saxons” and others to that list…the lesson I am learning is that my accepted labels are not universal across Christendom/TheWest.
I think it is in its death throes…
The us dollar is an unequal measure, under my model of what a “money” and “currency” are. Me: Currency may or may not reflect the underlying unit of measure… I am hoping for the collapse of the Western governments; they are all at war with their own peoples. They are observably anti-Nation; they are anti-West.
I am on that team.
Wholeheartedly agreed. cordially…
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 00:32 | #
Sorry, GW Don Rickles couldn’t have said it better. 39
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 03:05 | # James, private property-holding by the masses is simply not planned to be a part of post-2030 Davos-World: “I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes ...” Now, one can write that off as an impossibly extreme, criminally anti-natural and anti-human utopia for billionaire psychopaths. But these people are absolutely intent on total global possession for themselves and an absolute communist economic condition with absolute algorithmic social control for the surviving population of ordinary people; and they are carrying governments across the world along with them. The lockstep response to the Covid narrative and the climate narrative demonstrate that. The food narrative is being lined up as we speak. It is becoming undeniable that this, regardless of its outrageousness and audacity, is the future being created for us. It is, at the very least, a conceptual background, if perhaps not the conceptual background, against which one which one should be working. 40
Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:04 | # GW, I’m not sure what you mean to be contributing to my understanding by stating the obvious facts that are my motive in setting forth Property Money, unless that understanding wasn’t patently obvious by my 3 decade advocacy of replacing taxes on economic activity with a tax on wealth and replacing much of government with a citizen’s dividend followed by my above post where I state “the elites are hostile to property rights and are essentially begging to be bitch-slapped by Property Money.” 41
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 14:19 | # Let’s suppose that Property Money has a window between now and the imposition of the five pillars of the Davos project, or their imposition up to a point of critical mass beyond which the potential for resistance is lost, the pillars being (in no particular order): a) Creation of crises justifying centralisation of control, b) Putting in place of social control technologies, c) Withdrawal of cash and introduction of programmable central bank digital currency, d) Imposition of universal basic income in return for: e) Transfer of ownership of all land and other assets to the corporate and banking elites. So, let’s say that, as promised, 2030 is the closure date in question. Let’s further assume that of the seven years remaining, only the first five are within the period in which collapse of the project is still achievable. That’s five years in which Property Money might have some physical basis in the world. What happens then? What do people who hold nothing, and cannot even sustain their own future except by the “permission” of an algorithim, do to restore justice and freedom to their lives? If, among the ways in which they might revolt, they revolt financially, what store of value do they possess but their own bodies? 42
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 22:57 | # @41 I’m not taking sides in any way but that was one heck of a to-the-point comment. Just to add: “... what store of value do they possess but their own bodies?” The totalitarian ghouls of the WEF intend to gain control of our bodies too. (Note: I do not endorse en-Volve reliable source (I’m not very familiar with the website) but that’s not the only source I’ve read about Harari and his biometric sensors agenda. 43
Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 02 Sep 2022 23:36 | # GW, first of all understand that the Davos ghouls have no solution to the economy outbidding young men for the fertile years of young women. Even if they _want_ to depopulate, the way they are doing it (“demographic transition”) has been viciously mining out the gene pool. They _might_ be able to get away with this if it weren’t for the fact that they’re having to _dramatically_ ramp up parasitic castration toward Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World” and beyond that to mechanization of humanity. It’s just too fast. It is not something they’re likely to get away with without paying a very dear price—so dear in fact that I’m on record as stating it looks to me like a Maoist “Unrestricted Art of Warfare” gain of function of Jewish virulence: Jews as well as Davos men Golem wreaking destruction across the West. Moreover, the CCP, while its neofascist approach is more adaptive it doesn’t seem to be handling the situation as well as subsaharan Africa in the longer term. The big difference is that subsaharan Africa hasn’t domesticated its males sufficiently to subvert the TFR. That’s why my strategy relies on an aristocracy of military aged men as replacement for the monetary system thence government and corporate owners. Aside from turning around the demographic transition’s depopulation agenda, it also reduces if not reverses the dysgenics of the demographic transition taking from the next generation the characteristics valued by the economy in this generation. Bottom line is that the Davos Man is a beta male who managed to hack the monetary and financial system founding civilization to get laid and he’s so insecure that he has to parasitically castrate all the other males. These guys, and their hoes, are BEGGING to be bitch slapped. 44
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 03 Sep 2022 13:34 | # @43 Sounds good in theory but it’s impracticable when matched against reality. Hell, we can’t even get agreement among WNs in which general direction to take. Sadly, WN is implacably fragmented into several factions - constantly bickering with one another. Over the last decade I see no improvement on that matter. 45
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 03 Sep 2022 14:19 | # Property Money is pretty simple to implement at a local level. Here are the steps: 1) Set up a spreadsheet to keep account balances. Everything else within the Property Money regime is private sector. And, yes, that means all other social functions normally thought of as “government”. PS: When Property Money starts becoming a force to be reckoned with, the layers hiding the true face of our enemy will be peeled off one by one. I won’t be surprised if behind the Davos Man is the Jew and behind the Jew is the Chinaman and behind the Chinaman is the subsaharan Big Man—with the only consciously conspiratorial layer being that of the Chinaman and the rest being simply deeper cultures digesting shallower cultures via more organic conspiracy (breathing together as collective evolutionary entities). Of these I suspect the Chinaman will be the easiest to defeat, but only once exposed. This is because the subSaharan Big Man is already starting to digest him with the CCP’s arrogant failure to appreciate the wisdom of having terminated China’s age of exploration by burning the merchant ships upon their return from Africa. 46
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 03 Sep 2022 22:08 | # Due to the apparent dissolution of Western civilization your plan may indeed have a good chance of taking root. It’s a good plan but current conditions are not yet ripe for its implementation. Please be more specific by what you mean by “the subSaharan Big Man.” 47
Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 04 Sep 2022 02:29 | # There are places in the US where insurance companies are already abandoning small businesses. Now, agreed, these are in mainly in areas where Sorosesque DAs have unleashed blacks on the small businesses, and those DAs will not tolerate citizens defending themselves. Consider what happened in Omaha when a war veteran who had a small business defended it, his father and himself from BLM rioters and ended up committing suicide as he was chased down by the “legal” system. That said, there is a _lot_ of built-up hostility to the “legal” system among the small business community—enough that Biden’s infamous speech about “Trump supporters” being “a clear and present danger to democracy” is seen as an attempt to catalyze violence so that the government unleashes its army of tens of thousands of armed and dangerous IRS auditors if not the national guard on small businesses. People are getting pretty fed up, Thorn and by “pretty fed up” I mean they really are ready to take some sort of forceful action although they lack the leadership needed to wage a declared war. Property Money offers a peaceful alternative to violence that can be powered by this pent-up frustration toward the hollow state’s taunts: It routes around the damage. As for the subSaharan Big Man, think about the Africans that sold other Africans into slavery to the Jews thence to inject a slow-acting stealth poison/digestive juices into the West so its innards could be more easily drained. 48
Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 04 Sep 2022 03:19 | # Thorn’s reference to Dr. Lothrop Stoddard’s work totally misconstrues the author’s target . This does not come as a surprise. Dr. Stoddard’s ” Rising Tide of Color” did not include the Chinese whom he correctly considered to be a civilized Race which , judged over millennia , tended to mind their own geographical business. Dr. Stoddard knew , unlike suicidally insane Christians such as Thorn , that it would be better for our Race to withhold our curative medical discoveries from the Blacks and Browns and let Nature take its inevitable course , population wise. Silly wee boy, Thorn . Enjoy your Turd World infested , Jew - invented Heaven. 49
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:02 | # “hollow state’s taunts” The state has plenty of power and control; more than enough to make its citizens suffer ... and that power is expanding exponentially. E.g., the Canadian government froze the bank accounts of the Truckers who dared protest vaccine mandates. The list is long and growing longer on of the ways they can harass and persecute us. Bingo! That’s why The Deep State is so afraid of Trump, he is a great disruptor. Moreover, he’s inspiring the type of bold leadership we desperately need to emerge. Re. the subSaharan Big Man ... I look at it as the population explosion there which of course is causing mass-migrating out of Africa into white homelands. Actually they are spreading all over the world. The Three M process: Multiply, Migration, Miscegenation. Current demographic trends indicate Earth will eventually become a negro planet. 50
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:06 | # Malfunctioning Al writes: “Dr. Stoddard’s ” Rising Tide of Color” did not include the Chinese whom he correctly considered to be a civilized Race which , judged over millennia , tended to mind their own geographical business.” Re-read the link I posted, dipshit. 51
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 04 Sep 2022 22:06 | # @ 49 James, ignore my response to the “hollow state’s taunts” part of my comment. I get what you mean: If the Property Money system was put into practice the state’s taunts would be hollow, lacking force. 53
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 22:19 | # Obviously, Mr. Gonzalo"s aesthetic appearance may not be polished, but the info he conveys, IMHO, is worth taking note of.
WATCH: 54
Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 22:30 | # Per Thorn above The roundtable discussion Mr. Gonzalo refers to is in this prodcast These guys are worth following .
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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 23:01 | # Timothy, those guys are expressing their opinions. Their opinions are interesting for sure - but their opinions matter not. The real power is guarded by the intelligence agencies of the West .. Israel’s Mossad is central in that club. 56
Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 23:23 | # Hi Thorn Thanks for the reply.
In the physical sphere, it appears to me that “The real power, guarded by Mossad” is getting punched in the nose and it will get worse for them. Cordially
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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 11 Sep 2022 23:55 | # Colonel Douglas MacGregor appears on Tucker Carlson. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Vzv9lLn0yICL/ Doug MacGregor refutes the Western MSM propaganda which is reporting the tide is turning on Russian forces and the proof they cite is Ukrainian forces are retaking territory previously occupied by Russian forces. What’s being described by MacGregor (et al.) is the Ukrainian forces are now in vulnerable positions, well within the Russian kill zone. Post a comment:
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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:57 | #
I can only wish the majority of Americanos understood the forces that make America tick half as much as Dugin does. Unfortunately, only a tiny percentage of us are well aware of the situation. The rest reside in the categories of 1) Confused but searching through the fog for coherent answers, 2) Willfully clueless, and 3) Incurably ignorant. Of course, the MSM/entertainment industry working in tandem with the education/indoctrination system (the government-media complex) are the main culprits keeping Americanos the most brainwashed ppl on the planet
Good article:
Aleksandr Dugin on the Alien, Substantially Jewish Elite in the U.S. and Its War Against Traditional American Individualism
KEVIN MACDONALD
https://www.unz.com/article/aleksandr-dugin-on-the-alien-substantially-jewish-elite-in-the-u-s-and-its-war-against-traditional-american-individualism/