Sovereign and monarch

Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, 08 September 2022 21:20.

I am a racially and ethnically aware Englishman.  I am not, therefore, anti-monarchical, because monarchy is genuinely inherent to the culture of power among the English, and the Scots and Welsh, and the Scots-Irish too.  Those of us - the vast majority - who are conscious of the fact are not generally the shifty and lightweight beings who might disrespect it in order to parade their, of course, terribly different and daring, not to mention radical republican values.  Therefore one can grant the dead monarch and the new monarch a certain historical import and even respect.  France is foundationally revolutionary.  Britain is foundationally monarchical.  To some subtle but substantive degree, these things are in the way that every Frenchman and every Briton comports himself in the world.

But beyond that affirmational fact, the French do enjoy a certain advantage.  They have rid themselves of an ancient appendix and need make no exception to the rule of their own government.  So the question inevitably arises: why do we cleave to a constitutional monarchy which has long ago relinquished the possibility of command, and which, today, cannot even pass a public opinion on the exercise of power in this land?  Why, indeed, have a monarch who is not even of the people’s blood, and for whom even the notion of representation of the people is shooed away by that of representation of the emotionally stiff and cold, formal machinery of state?  It’s a very British conundrum.  Obviously, those of our kind who are given to novelty ... those who are estranged in the modern ... cannot be persuaded of the virtue of continuity.  Those who are given to the Judaic prescription of equal-ness cannot be persuaded of hierarchy by heredity.  But in the minds of the rest of the British, who are the vast majority, there is some good in carrying forward the old investment of identity and fealty that adhered to the kings and queens of the ancient British past.  Certainly, our age does not have the same, direct tribal or semi-tribal connection.  But then on to the person of the monarch we project our yearning for that connection, which is a yearning for who we English, we Scots, we Welsh, we Scots-Irish are in our own-most being.  It might be obscured by the dust-storm of the modern, but we have a sense of it.  We just need something to point out the way.

Good monarchs and bad in that respect come and go.  A faithful and good one, on balance, has now departed, and quite likely a bad one - an earnest man, a sincere man, but confused and apprehensive - has already, and without a moments’ pause, taken up the royal burden.  We natives of this land are not his subjects.  Constitutionally, we are his sovereign and have been so since 1649, a fact which modern parliamentarians too rarely concede.  But, regardless of his undoubted weaknesses, we will extend our sovereign’s consent to him, and offer our fealty in return for his modelling of the truth and continuity of our nation, our blood and kind.  The French may fairly consider that absurd and anachronistic.  But we might then consider their civicism jejune and artificial, and we might even suspect that in some quiet and reflective corner of their national psyche a little envy abides.

There will be national mourning, and then, at some point over the next months, there will be formal majesty and circumstance as the new King is crowned.  The king of climate alarmism, some will say ... even the king of Davos.  But perhaps he will realise that he is no longer free to champion that cause.  There is, of course, no chance at all that he will ever cease to champion the foreignisation of his people’s home.



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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 09 Sep 2022 00:21 | #

IMHO, the death of the beloved Queen Elizibeth II marked the end of the popularity of the Monarchy. I’m afraid everything after her is going to give the appearance of a salvage project. I pray King Charles III is successful, but, quite honestly, I don’t think he has what it takes. Perhaps Prince William and Kate Middleton offer hope for its future?  Possibly?



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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 09 Sep 2022 23:23 | #

King Charles III is off to a respectable start; however, I’m representative of the popular opinion of an older generation. I like the way things were.


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Posted by Erin go Bragh on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 05:31 | #

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

‘Tis a shame it wasn’t a nice car bomb that blew the bloody Brit bitch to bits.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 07:24 | #

Imigh i síocháin, a dheartháir.


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 23:33 | #

So the question inevitably arises: why do we cleave to a constitutional monarchy which has long ago relinquished the possibility of command, and which, today, cannot even pass a public opinion on the exercise of power in this land?  Why, indeed, have a monarch who is not even of the people’s blood, and for whom even the notion of representation of the people is shooed away by that of representation of the emotionally stiff and cold, formal machinery of state?

Because God established hierarchy in Heaven and on Earth. Because hierarchy is an empirical fact of nature. Because men are not equal . Because men need hierarchy. Because hierarchy is a good, established by God.
When the men in a hierarchy fail, we ache. We ache, because we know it is wrong for men to betray the natural order and we mourn and lament when they do.

Furthermore…posting it now….

Monarchy is not dead, Monarchy will arise from the ashes and the usurper will die.

 


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Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 23:38 | #

Good monarchs and bad in that respect come and go.  A faithful and good one, on balance, has now departed, and quite likely a bad one - an earnest man, a sincere man, but confused and apprehensive - has already, and without a moments’ pause, taken up the royal burden.  We natives of this land are not his subjects.  Constitutionally, we are his sovereign and have been so since 1649, a fact which modern parliamentarians too rarely concede.  But, regardless of his undoubted weaknesses, we will extend our sovereign’s consent to him, and offer our fealty in return for his modelling of the truth and continuity of our nation, our blood and kind.  The French may fairly consider that absurd and anachronistic.  But we might then consider their civicism jejune and artificial, and we might even suspect that in some quiet and reflective corner of their national psyche a little envy abides.

We Catholics have the same thoughts and feeling regarding our own Monarch—the Pope.

Off topic…but related….

I am confident that you love music, especially the music of England…

What should we expect?

Hopefully no Elton John…Hopefully no Beatles…Hopefully no Who…


Also, my condolences on the loss of your Queen.

Cordially

 

 

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 11 Sep 2022 02:53 | #

Apples v Oranges comparison.

The Archbishop of Canterbury is the CEO of the C of E while the Monarch , as the principal layman , is the non - executive Chairman.

Also , unlike , say the Church of Scotland , the C of E was not the result of the usual theological fantasies of Christians , but rather a creation of Henry VIII’s desire for a divorce .

The Irish writer , Dominic Behan , put it succinctly if somewhat crudely :  ”  The Cornerstones of the Church of England are the Bollocks of Henry VIII. “


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 11 Sep 2022 04:00 | #

To the Erin Go Bragh charmer whose people , surrounded by water , could not fend off a Famine by fishing while relying on the English - introduced potato as a colonial staple .

Pog Mo Thoin


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 11 Sep 2022 16:40 | #

Start listening at 1:14:00 to Andrew Fraser talking about deposing the monarch (as opposed to deposing the monarchy).

“Leaving the field of battle.”

What could better qualify for “leaving the field of battle” than the refusal to exercise the royal prerogative to declare war on those invading the LAND.

Christianity’s deal with the men of the relm that got them to abandon their indigenous ways was a permanent warmaking capacity to override individual sovereignty in the defense of LAND as a COLLECTIVE property.

If you fail in that, as you most decisively HAVE failed, you invite the heathen to return and tear down the permanent warmaking capacity that enables high population densities and the concomitant economic rents arising from postive network externalities (the commons).

Ya’ll disgust me as most assuredly your ancestors despise you for not recognizing the _obligation_ of Christianity to the MEN.

Don’t be surprised if when Property Money takes hold every single member of the clergy and “royalty” finds his head on a pike except those that manage to figure out that they’d best turn 180 degrees from where their “churches” are heading and RUN LIKE THE DEVIL HIMSELF is after him (as he is).


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Posted by Erin go Bragh on Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:08 | #

To Al Ross - that’s because we had to hand over any food/rent to parasite English landlords and their Jew mates back in London.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 12 Sep 2022 23:33 | #

@10

Hey Big Jim, if I were ever to become the sovereign of WN, I’d appointee you head of NPR.

You come across dammed good on radio. A natural.


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 02:13 | #

  For any Christian living in these last days of America , NPR must approvingly equate to ” Niggers Promoted Relentlessly .”

Take the job yourself, Thorn , because that’s what your Jew Heaven salvation peddlers advocate, ad nauseum.


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 02:27 | #

  To EGB , I have no way of knowing how well ( or ill ) educated you are , but that does not matter as long as we stick to observable reality .

Here’s the main observable reality about England / Ireland :

When England decided that it was surrounded by three enemies , viz., Scotland , France and Ireland it took appropriate action to pacify each one.

Now for the counterfactual.

Do you believe that, given the well - documented Irish non - aversion to aggressive action , your people would , in a geographical mutatis mutandis situation , have eschewed a similar strategy ?


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:59 | #

Thorn , you could sit on the lavatory all day and still be full of shit.

End of the Monarchy ?  No.

End of the extended family Royalty ? Yes.

Know the difference , dumbo.


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Posted by Erin go Bragh on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 04:53 | #

To Al Ross, is that your real name? Ross is a Scottish surname and Clan Ross is a Highland clan that fought valiantly against the English for centuries, going back to Robert the Bruce. If so, it’s quite pathetic that a Highlander defends the English and their Jew mates. If not, pick a more appropriate handle, like “Al Disraeli” or “Al Rothschild.”


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 06:01 | #

  You are a stupid person , EGB , and there is no curative for that condition , although it was widely acknowledged that the Irish had a propensity for non - logic which some academic linguists attributed to a mistranslation from the original Irish .

Anyway , to cheer you up , here’s a late, fellow countryman of mine singing a doubtless familiar song :

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE5y84-sz_g

You , EGB , act like an Irish underdog .  Bu of course , you are not acting.

I , on the other hand, am a Scottish overdog.


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 06:47 | #

Also , EGB , I have included the proletarianized glottal stop in the grammatically incorrect first word of my second last sentence , just for fashionable Celtic solidarity.

Apparently , Ireland now has a considerable Muslim population , so please emulate the name of the Ballsbridge, Islamic sage ,  Mohammed Ghoffuq Yousef.


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:27 | #

Al Ross, your head is inextricably stuck up your own ass.

End of the Monarchy? No, I don’t think so.

The erosion or diminution of the Monarchy’s popularity? Likely.

Know the difference, dipshit


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:12 | #

Some English people , EGB , still lament the fact that, when Eire got its Independence about a century ago , the stupid UK Govt still allowed the (self - declaredly) foreign spawn of priest - ridden peasants to swarm into England ( and Scotland ) and provide cities like Liverpool with an overwhelmingly Irish - descended criminal class.


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Posted by Richard Yorke on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:03 | #

Should be Gavelkind, and not Primogeniture. Have Wales a separate country.

Isaiah 5:8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

I suppose the thing with paying taxes, is basically paying it to national destruction. Especially council taxes.


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Posted by Erin go Bragh on Wed, 14 Sep 2022 04:14 | #

Al Ross, if you are indeed a true Scotsman, know this, lad: your Highlander ancestors would’ve split your noggin with a claymore if they found out a kinsman was a cowardly slave to English and Jew masters.



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