Dangerfield’s “Cultural Nationalism” can be consonant with White Left Ethnonationalism: here’s why -

Posted by DanielS on Saturday, 04 July 2020 06:07.

Observing that Marxism’s internationalist trajectory aims ultimately at the withering-away of the state, Majorityrights has put forth an ethnonationalist platform pro-actively, one which I call White Left Ethnonationalist in order to distinguish it from Jewish power and influence, from Abrahamism of any denomination, from Nazism, from scientism and nutty conspiracy theories. The concept White Left Ethnonationalism places only a bit more emphasis on social accountability in order to give the fact of our social indebtedness a modicum more attention, compensatory of what we are used to and what we have been allowed as a people in order to facilitate borders for our people (once bordered, our emergent qualities will take care of most problems); and this platform also corresponds to anti-supremacism and anti-imperialism. As such, it is consonant with international nationalism - nationalism for all peoples. It can also be consonant with Dangerfield’s newly coined term and concept, “Cultural Nationalism.”

Because it is defined by ourselves, it is drastically different from economic Marxism; we can have private property, free enterprise, outcomes according to merit; and naturally it is the opposite of Cultural Marxism; on the contrary, it is pro-White for both our genus and species of ethnonationalism; facilitating the interest of our people and our natural predilections, individual liberty, science and tech, etc.

Again, for all those who have unwittingly gone along with the Jewish program to rail against “the left” and “lefties” your efforts are not in vain as it is easily understood that you speak of the internationalist/anti-nationalist, anti-White left.

And we reclaim our terminology of the left for our definition as nationalists, to wrest its correspondence with social capital and unionization thereof, thus providing a structure of accountability, social correctivity and thereby group maintenance along with other positive and necessary social features that have been obstructed for our people; while averting the Jewish trap of reaction - and their “solutions” into sundry, destabilizing right wing perfidy, back doors from accountability and means for their infiltration, coercion and direction, whether identifying as right or turd positiononism.



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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 19:05 | #

Cultural Nationalism was invented by Lee John Barnes back around 2007, as a counter-weight to the failing Neitzschean model then propounded by the leading lights of the BNP (Lee served as legal officer for the BNP for many years).  Lee perceived that as things were the party could never communicate with the mass of the native British.  He gave it a good shake, then dropped out of sight.  His movement was taken over by others, including Paul Weston, and given an Islam focus; and the principal form it takes today is Ann-Marie Waters’ For Britain.


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Posted by Banter on British Nationalism on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 20:55 | #

Banter Nationalism 89, Gentleman Adam

Interesting conversation.


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Posted by Cultural Nationalism on Tue, 07 Jul 2020 09:01 | #

It may be that Ann Marie Waters promotes a form of “cultural nationalism”, but she doesn’t advocate cultural nationalism in a form of which I would wholeheartedly subscribe; nor would it be fair if she were to be depicted as exemplar of the term. - DanielS

I had to add this rejoinder because I said that a White Left Nationalist Platform can be consonant with a concept of Cultural Nationalism.

This platform (White Left Ethnonationalist) would NOT fit comfortably with Ann Marie Waters, liberal, anti racist (in the manipulated sense of the term, “racist”), Zionist, neo-con cheering section.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:15 | #

Somewhere on the site there are various debates between Lee, myself and others on the non-nationalism of cultural nationalism.  I don’t believe that Lee was a non-nationalist, but most certainly was a non-Nietzschean and, while he almost certainly did believe in full repatriation and the restoration of this land to its own people, he didn’t think that could be spoken about without making oneself a hostage to fortune.  His invention, therefore, was a flag of convenience.

The divide between a repatriationist and a non-repatriationist marks the divide, systemically speaking, between nationalism and liberalism.  Non-repatriationists like this character you are interested in are only of interest while they are still moving towards nationalism.  The moment they stop moving and start trying to sell their vestigial liberalism to nationalists they are a dead duck, as far as I am concerned.

Lee, by the way, would very likely have been a proponent of your modus operandum, had he thought of it before he thought of the cultural approach.


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:50 | #

...last time I spoke to John Lee Barnes (by means of comments, of course) we were on friendly terms. I recall him being quite good, though I don’t remember every position that he took.

While I do not vouch for Dangerfield, his character or otherwise, and wish that he were up to speed with this platform, he is at least a repatriationist. That’s what I’ve heard him say. If he is not, I would not agree with him, nor would White left ethnonationalism correspond with his notion of cultural nationalism (non-natives are equivalent to “scabs” in the nativist union metaphor).

As I understand it, he just doesn’t speak of that (repatriation and the J.Q.) often and loud because he wants to keep his channel.


My “taking an interest” in him has more to do with trying to show cooperation. There is going to be an understandable bias by English for fellow English, to where they are willing to overlook a myriad of foibles - former heroin addict, whore monger, bachelor in Cambodia with a Cambodian girlfriend…  but even the majestic nationalists Daughter of Albion (who has guested with him several times) and Rose Kitten are among his admirers.

Whereas I have difficulty getting cooperation on even the most obviously self serving platforms for the English and other ethnonationalists…and I do believe not being English has something to do with it, so I try to show that I am friendly to English being (perhaps a little overly) prejudiced for the English.


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Posted by mancinblack on Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:23 | #

Dangerfield makes it perfectly clear that he is not advocating for JLB’s cultural nationalism, or the civic nationalism of UKIP et al and says he chose the term ‘cultural nationalism’ to set his proposal in opposition to cultural Marxism and acknowledged that his use of the term was “provocative”.

In his own fuzzy way, he is advocating for the support of ethnonational -isms globally. There is nothing wrong with that ! it is something Majorityrights has been doing for quite some time now.

Someone needs to tell him that if he can’t remember the name Aung San Suu Kyi, he should just call her ‘Mother Aung’ as they do in Myanmar and that if you live in a hot country and feel hot it makes no sense to wear a hat suitable for a Siberian winter. Just saying like…



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