While I am being nice and in due diligence to free speech, I am satisfied that I describe the cross contextual patterns underlying left and right very well - and importantly distinguished as such - whereas Frodi Midjord tries to introduce a description of “the right” as a perspective which “adapts” to the national interests.
To me it is pretty clear that he is trying to spuriously affix a positive word “adaption” to what is more characteristically a reactive function, which at its best, provides feedback to the proactive calibration of praxis - the proactive and corrective group function, i.e., with its accountability to the group praxis (not to pure nature and ideals), thus to its left unionizing function of ethnonationalism.
If Frodi would be talking to Mark Weber and bothering to redeem the Nazi regime, it is not especially surprising that he is not liberated from an emotional, and defensive reaction which would be susceptible to its epistemological blunder; hence his spurious definition of the right, which doesn’t have much in the way of historical evidence, i.e., being characteristically “adaptive” as opposed to reactive.
Speaking of Mark Weber, I’ve noticed that beyond him, i.e., even among mainstream Historians such as Victor Hansen, it is quite taken for granted that The Treaty of Versailles was irrational and unjust in how it drew the borders of the newly re-formed Polish nation; thus, a “border war” was all that should have happened; Hitler was justified inasmuch.
But No he wasn’t. There were historical and logistical reasons, justifications for the way Versailles drew the borders. War was not necessarily justified.
Not that long ago, Norvin requested that I engage in a debate with Hitler redemptionists. I would only bother with such a thing if it was conducted along a professional historian’s levels. Thus, I would bring in Dr. Christian Lindner and Per Nordin. I ventured to test the waters with these proposed interlocutors prior to getting these fine gentlemen involved.
I explained that there was indeed reasonable rationale and historical justice to the way Versailles drew the borders, contrary to the way even mainstream media has portrayed it, as “the Germans having 13% of their territory taken from them” ...and I added that that is not to say its not disputed territory, obviously it was and the treaty didn’t work out, but it is far from true that it was completely arbitrary, irrational and unjust, as the Nazis would portray it. I didn’t even say that the borders were necessarily right as they were drawn, just that there was rationale to it.
I barely made these rational and measured points when I was greeted by (what I am now provisionally forced to call) an idiot going by the name of Tom White saying that I’ve talked enough, the likes of Metzger and I would have to take a back seat now, Germans are the heart of Europe and bla bla bla….followed by Ovfuckyou going into his mock Jewish voice in a chorus with the rest of those there, saying they’d heard enough of my “whining” about “my little corridor’ .. ..‘Heinrich Lucas Ford’ calling me a “Pollock” (later reading Carolyn Yeager’s attempted hit piece on me an so forth) and so on…this was not said with any pretense of concern for calm, rational debate, let alone civil discussion of the facts. Just the most crude attempt to bludgeon the point of view which called Hitler’s “justifications” into question.
And to think, I was testing the situation to see if these were worthy interlocutors for Dr. Christian Lindner. Obviously I could not allow that debate to materialize.
Perhaps one begins to get a sense of why I limit the “free speech” of committed Hitler redemptorists here at MR. In order to protect our free speech, in a word. MR provides a haven from this nonsense for nationalists who are both wise to the J.Q. but realize that Hitler’s worldview is obsolete for our purposes.
In a subsequent podcast of my own, after a careful analysis going through the history and influence of Descartes, Locke to the post modern turn of Vico, Nietzsche, Heidegger and Gadamer .. I let Tom White in for discussion because in some ways he is an intelligent guy, anyway, capable enough of providing feedback from a concerned perspective on the ground (viz. in Minnesota) and I was thinking that maybe he could be brought around to a more well rounded position. Nope. He says (after my careful talk) “We’re just talking here” and “Germans are the heart of Europe”, and then he says to me (a guy who is not even German), literally, “the only thing that matters are Germans.”
He adds, “I’m everything you say we shouldn’t be” ..I’m “a supremacist and a Nazi” (for the record, I never said that people shouldn’t be ‘racist’) and this stuff about how objective he is in his preferences and how everyone must agree ...
After all I’ve said and done: “The only thing we should care about is Germans” and I should waste our time with this guy’s free speech”?
He’s now doing shows with Ovfuckyou, who subjected me to some of the nastiest and most juvenile attacks (largely in the form of abusive talk-overs which didn’t allow for the point of view that doesn’t see Hitler as wonderful and justified), all allowed for by Ecce Lux, Jonathan Pohl (I’m supposed to feel guilty about Germans being moved over the Oder River after WWII; and I should look upon Gottfried as a leading light according to Pohl) and Melchy Zedek (I’m supposed to be abused because I’m not a Christian and don’t think “Mein Kampf” is a revelaton).
Just a few years ago Ovfuckyou was a “Bernie Bro”... Ecce Lux was a liberal… they have no idea what an ordeal it has been and get a platform together that views both Jews and Hitler as being outside of White interests. They don’t understand that theirs is the shit that is old and in the way.
No, they have their (distortion of) free speech, somewhere else.
But here is Frodi; he has his free speech here at MR. When he talks to Mark Weber of the “IHR” and endorses Pat Buchanan’s taken for granted (German/Irish American) take on the genesis of WWII, its being unnecessary not having much to do with Hitler’s Friedrich the Great style imperialism and revanchism; reinventing the broken wheel that gets stuck in the mud of World War attrition with the stupidity of a Tom White and Ovfuckyou.
Wouldn’t Claire Khaw see an angle for her self promotion in this, trying to normalize Ov. After all, as a Chinese woman, what does she care for 50 million Europeans needlessly killed for this Austrian corporal’s grandiosity - “he just wanted his place in the sun.”
So, they have their free speech and they will not interfere with the free speech of people who need an alternative from that stupid insanity.
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One more thing. There was mention in the posted discussion with Frodi that Jared Taylor had been banned from the Schengen Zone due to a complaint from Poland.
I personally found that strange myself and posted an article about it. However, I do not know who among the Polish nation was responsible for the complaint and the decision.
They added that Richard Spencer has been banned from Poland. This I can understand a little more. Spencer has repeatedly disparaged Polish nationhood, saying “there’s not going to be your little Poland” etc, in course of denouncing nationalism altogether as a “zero sum game” which should give way to imperialism (featuring German leadership in cooperation with Russia, of course).
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While I am being nice and in due diligence to free speech, I am satisfied that I describe the cross contextual patterns underlying left and right very well - and importantly distinguished as such - whereas Frodi Midjord tries to introduce a description of “the right” as a perspective which “adapts” to the national interests.
To me it is pretty clear that he is trying to spuriously affix a positive word “adaption” to what is more characteristically a reactive function, which at its best, provides feedback to the proactive calibration of praxis - the proactive and corrective group function, i.e., with its accountability to the group praxis (not to pure nature and ideals), thus to its left unionizing function of ethnonationalism.
If Frodi would be talking to Mark Weber and bothering to redeem the Nazi regime, it is not especially surprising that he is not liberated from an emotional, and defensive reaction which would be susceptible to its epistemological blunder; hence his spurious definition of the right, which doesn’t have much in the way of historical evidence, i.e., being characteristically “adaptive” as opposed to reactive.
Speaking of Mark Weber, I’ve noticed that beyond him, i.e., even among mainstream Historians such as Victor Hansen, it is quite taken for granted that The Treaty of Versailles was irrational and unjust in how it drew the borders of the newly re-formed Polish nation; thus, a “border war” was all that should have happened; Hitler was justified inasmuch.
But No he wasn’t. There were historical and logistical reasons, justifications for the way Versailles drew the borders. War was not necessarily justified.
Not that long ago, Norvin requested that I engage in a debate with Hitler redemptionists. I would only bother with such a thing if it was conducted along a professional historian’s levels. Thus, I would bring in Dr. Christian Lindner and Per Nordin. I ventured to test the waters with these proposed interlocutors prior to getting these fine gentlemen involved.
I explained that there was indeed reasonable rationale and historical justice to the way Versailles drew the borders, contrary to the way even mainstream media has portrayed it, as “the Germans having 13% of their territory taken from them” ...and I added that that is not to say its not disputed territory, obviously it was and the treaty didn’t work out, but it is far from true that it was completely arbitrary, irrational and unjust, as the Nazis would portray it. I didn’t even say that the borders were necessarily right as they were drawn, just that there was rationale to it.
I barely made these rational and measured points when I was greeted by (what I am now provisionally forced to call) an idiot going by the name of Tom White saying that I’ve talked enough, the likes of Metzger and I would have to take a back seat now, Germans are the heart of Europe and bla bla bla….followed by Ovfuckyou going into his mock Jewish voice in a chorus with the rest of those there, saying they’d heard enough of my “whining” about “my little corridor’ .. ..‘Heinrich Lucas Ford’ calling me a “Pollock” (later reading Carolyn Yeager’s attempted hit piece on me an so forth) and so on…this was not said with any pretense of concern for calm, rational debate, let alone civil discussion of the facts. Just the most crude attempt to bludgeon the point of view which called Hitler’s “justifications” into question.
And to think, I was testing the situation to see if these were worthy interlocutors for Dr. Christian Lindner. Obviously I could not allow that debate to materialize.
Perhaps one begins to get a sense of why I limit the “free speech” of committed Hitler redemptorists here at MR. In order to protect our free speech, in a word. MR provides a haven from this nonsense for nationalists who are both wise to the J.Q. but realize that Hitler’s worldview is obsolete for our purposes.
In a subsequent podcast of my own, after a careful analysis going through the history and influence of Descartes, Locke to the post modern turn of Vico, Nietzsche, Heidegger and Gadamer .. I let Tom White in for discussion because in some ways he is an intelligent guy, anyway, capable enough of providing feedback from a concerned perspective on the ground (viz. in Minnesota) and I was thinking that maybe he could be brought around to a more well rounded position. Nope. He says (after my careful talk) “We’re just talking here” and “Germans are the heart of Europe”, and then he says to me (a guy who is not even German), literally, “the only thing that matters are Germans.”
He adds, “I’m everything you say we shouldn’t be” ..I’m “a supremacist and a Nazi” (for the record, I never said that people shouldn’t be ‘racist’) and this stuff about how objective he is in his preferences and how everyone must agree ...
After all I’ve said and done: “The only thing we should care about is Germans” and I should waste our time with this guy’s free speech”?
He’s now doing shows with Ovfuckyou, who subjected me to some of the nastiest and most juvenile attacks (largely in the form of abusive talk-overs which didn’t allow for the point of view that doesn’t see Hitler as wonderful and justified), all allowed for by Ecce Lux, Jonathan Pohl (I’m supposed to feel guilty about Germans being moved over the Oder River after WWII; and I should look upon Gottfried as a leading light according to Pohl) and Melchy Zedek (I’m supposed to be abused because I’m not a Christian and don’t think “Mein Kampf” is a revelaton).
Just a few years ago Ovfuckyou was a “Bernie Bro”... Ecce Lux was a liberal… they have no idea what an ordeal it has been and get a platform together that views both Jews and Hitler as being outside of White interests. They don’t understand that theirs is the shit that is old and in the way.
No, they have their (distortion of) free speech, somewhere else.
But here is Frodi; he has his free speech here at MR. When he talks to Mark Weber of the “IHR” and endorses Pat Buchanan’s taken for granted (German/Irish American) take on the genesis of WWII, its being unnecessary not having much to do with Hitler’s Friedrich the Great style imperialism and revanchism; reinventing the broken wheel that gets stuck in the mud of World War attrition with the stupidity of a Tom White and Ovfuckyou.
Wouldn’t Claire Khaw see an angle for her self promotion in this, trying to normalize Ov. After all, as a Chinese woman, what does she care for 50 million Europeans needlessly killed for this Austrian corporal’s grandiosity - “he just wanted his place in the sun.”
So, they have their free speech and they will not interfere with the free speech of people who need an alternative from that stupid insanity.
.....
One more thing. There was mention in the posted discussion with Frodi that Jared Taylor had been banned from the Schengen Zone due to a complaint from Poland.
I personally found that strange myself and posted an article about it. However, I do not know who among the Polish nation was responsible for the complaint and the decision.
They added that Richard Spencer has been banned from Poland. This I can understand a little more. Spencer has repeatedly disparaged Polish nationhood, saying “there’s not going to be your little Poland” etc, in course of denouncing nationalism altogether as a “zero sum game” which should give way to imperialism (featuring German leadership in cooperation with Russia, of course).