Is it really too much to ask of Collett and Enoch to plainly reject Hitler? Forward all Europeans.

Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, 08 September 2020 08:31.

The epistemic grounds to reject Hitler should be clear enough to anyone proposing that they are qualified for a leadership role in WN. But these two are apparently carrying-on as if they are pragmatists. How do they propose that their explicitly unapologetic Hitler/Nazi coddling will be anything but terribly divisive of White Nationalism in addition to being epistemologically unnecessary?

If one is to exercise 20/20 hindsight, why not wish that Hitler didn’t attack other European nations; putting efforts instead toward cooperative deportation of non-Europeans?

This is not so much addressed to Enoch-Peinovich, as he has already been quarantined from this platform as an eminently dubious actor. However, Collett…

I won’t elaborate on this much here, as I have an article coming up regarding apparent triangulation against WN in the appeal to Hitler/Nazism, but to address a few absurdities by Collett in this podcast…

First of all, Collett invoked this rule that WN bandies about, which does not make perfect sense: i.e, “never apologize.”

       

Well, what if you’re terribly wrong? I remember people from the White Voice (guest Heimbach high-fiving host Adams for) refusing to apologize when they mistook Elin Krantz with the actor who posed mounted on top of a black in the mock Swedish National Anthem commercial: therefore “she got what she deserved”. Why not apologize for Elin’s sake?

       

But this is different. Not asking for an apology from Collett but rather for signs of intelligence enough (or honesty enough) that he can see things better now.

       
Carolyn Yeager once described this image (of a Polish woman killed by a Luftwaffe strafing) as “a wounded Polish woman.”

Collett invokes the long ago BBC ambush report which finds him now confirming that he’d still rather his daughter be born in 1930s Germany than some parts of England because she would be “more safe.”

And would his daughter be more safe still, in 1940s Germany, once the Nazi regime got through with murdering millions of people, including millions of civilian women and children, thus provoking revenge and violent retribution upon her?

Would it not be a better idea to find a way to move to a safer part of England while fairly assured that your parenting would give your daughter a better chance to not be groomed, and that you’d have some time for community activism, the kind you engage now, to root-out the problem?

Adding to the foible that he’d rather his daughter be born in 1930’s Germany, while that remark was initiated a long time ago, this one wasn’t: Listing his three favorite books - firstly Mein Kampf. Was that long ago Mark? Sure as reliable Mike Enoch set in motion the whole stiff arm thing that made Richard Spencer Fuhrer for a day…

..now you’ve got Enoch (who thinks he’s proved that he deserves to participate in European advocacy - he thinks so), running interference for you. He says that he’s not going to apologize for his admiration for certain figures of the Nazi era, “they’re going to call everyone Nazis anyway.”....

....“and look at the gun shows”, how the Nazi memorabilia is snapped up (therefore, it’s really ok to see Hitler’s as just another voice in our round table.) He challenges any of us “optics cucks” (the marketing campaign that Enoch is part of calls for him to suggest that there is no profound reason to reject Hitler, that the argument boils down to how Nazi imagery will look to the “brainwashed” normies), he believes that he can out-verbalize any of us in terms of winning over the “normies.” ...confident in his kosher verbal skills, he is.

“...but in terms of who is going to be a part of this movement, it’s got to be White people and really, Jews should be excluded; and, and if you’re going to let in a mixed Jewish person then they really have to have done something to earn that - you know, and I think that in my case, I did.” - Michael ‘Enoch’ Peinovich



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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 09 Sep 2020 16:34 | #

From my paper on a campaign for a referendum on the future of our people, sent to PA over two weeks ago, but not yet accorded a response.

Among the leadership and senior membership of PA (as and when subscribers become members) there must be a full and public personal renunciation of any prior ideological commitment to, or support or admiration for, any part of the politics of National Socialist Germany or fascist Italy, or any attachment whatsoever to the history of same or to anyone else commending that history.  That extends to Catholic Third Positionism and other radical ideologies from the nationalist past, the advocacy of which will not advance our cause one iota with our own people.

This is not to say that radicalism per se is unwelcome.  All nationalisms are radical in their engagement with the liberal system.  But there has to be a rebirth of nationalism, and in reality that means the dying away of the Nietzschean dicta of the life of glory and of idealist nationalisms generally, the most vivid realisations of which were the 20th century continental nationalist models.  Even without the well-poisoning of the anti-racist left, PA cannot speak to our people if it hamstrings itself by association with any of them.

It is the iron reality of politics in our time.  The British people will never adopt or tolerate any spokesman for nationalism even marginally associated with Hitler’s Germany and its history of imperialism, militarism, enslavement, domestic terror and gangsterism, its slavish uniformity of mind, its showy, gauche symbols … all that must be understood to be toxic.  Political considerations must take precedence.  Party discipline must prevail.  The party constitution must specifically prohibit any form of attachment to the 20th century models.  Party officers who, in the past, engaged on-line with other nationalists more interested in talking about Hitler than our people’s life and future must cut-off completely and forever from such people.  Members who make public statements of support for any aspect of National Socialism or who excuse Hitler in any way must be summarily expelled.  The message has to be got out that a new nationalist day has dawned, and that message must be adhered to unerringly. Everything must centre on the singularly noble and fitting politics of ethnic nationalism, so anti-racists are, in time, forced to address why, in their considered opinion, a politics of our people’s life and home is morally illegitimate.  They can supply no intellectually viable answer to that question.  Right now we are under their thumb, and they know it; and this is how the tables are turned.


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:41 | #

One cannot simply invent a replacement religion, although Daniel has thought about how that could come about.

A straw man, as usual.

I do not propose inventing a replacement religion, but rather identifying what is sacred to our people for its necessity for our survival beyond the moment and episode, beyond the lived relations even into the pattern from our ancestors to our legacy; this is the organic genesis of any religion, which is then institutionalized by the common reverence for these patterns of ceremonial episode. In the wisdom of language, in the etymology of language, this process is shown as well - “religion”: Re reconstruct. Re kingdom (of sorts, spare us monarchy), i..e. Re realm - that’s more like it ...etc.  and of course, what has been pointed out by many, ligion - the ligaments, which hold the legions together in common reverence.

The “faith”, i.e., the willing suspension of disbelief is confirmed and reconstructed by this this social episode of reverence, the ligaments, the relgion, which, being anchored by praxis allows us to correct and transcend moment, episode, even the era of our fallibility as individuals and as a people, while not being skeptical that the pattern is worth while.

That is just the start of what is not only possible (contrary to your claim) but has been the start of any religion and how it is maintained; but this, with possibility of organic genesis through our roots rather than brute imposition.

Your determination to see me (as anyone) as less deep than you, to keep me in an unimportant role and thus, where most anything that can be suggest is considered unimportant, not expressing a connection to something significant for our people has caused you to derail and obstruct this opportunity among many, to see false either or and mutual exclusivity where it does not exist ... as you have obstructed and misdirected several other important matters with your strawmanning as such; not for good reasons, for selfish reasons (there can be no other). That is why I do not like you.

 


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:22 | #

Well , Daniel S, here we are again .

No book described the JQ as well as Mein Kampf.

I like books , so please recommend your favourite.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:54 | #

It’s not my favorite book, but I believe that Eustace Mullins’ “The Biological Jew” prescribes a better response, inasmuch as one views Jewry as a viral causing bacillus, that it is not the most healthy response, but in fact largely self destructive to react with such singular focus and aim to eliminate them as Hitler had….

Not only did moving beyond praxis in reaction like that prove a disastrously self destructive epistemological blunder for Germany and Europe - destructive then and providing convenient stigmatizing propaganda against the cause of ethnonationalism for decades to come - but, as indicated in another work that you are no doubt familiar with, Faucette’s work on “horizontal transmission” (as pointed-out by Bowery here), that it played into a cycle of horizontal transmission by tending to cull the easier targets, the more benign and accountable Jews; and thus, inadvertently selecting for the more virulent types, who cross borders to their safety and continue the cycle in their more virulent form, its having been selected for.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:05 | #

Furthermore, Hitler was not a nationalist, he was an imperial supremacist, taking aim at the expense of other European nations for lebensraum and other claims; his supremacist imperialism was bound to instigate conflict between Europeans and others; whereas I try to work on ways to coordinate our ethnonationalisms - this has many advantages, as it is a rule upon which we can more reasonably hope for the populace and their respective national leaders to cooperate.


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:57 | #

One can only imagine what the condition of the white-race would be like if Hitler had abided by The Munich Agreement….


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:24 | #

One can only imagine how few child - molesting , Paki Muslim primitives and chaotic , violent Congoids would have been allowed UK residence or citizenship had Herr Hitler laid a gently guiding hand upon Mosley’s post - war direction of that now damaged nation , not to mention the welcome Exodus ( unworthy pun intended ) of our Semitic enemies.

You may compare and contrast , Paris today ( White - hating , White - financed Maghreb welfare dullards , head down - ass up praying on the streets of the City of Lights , when they are not burning cars) ) with German - occupied Paris , with its civilization almost unimpaired.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:34 | #

“German - occupied Paris”

And how long do you think the Germans could have occupied Paris without being forcibly ejected by the Parisians?

History informs us those type of arrangements don’t last long.

Hitler must’ve did poorly in his history classes. Either that or he was just a maniacal fool with delusions of grandeur. I’ll go with the latter.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 06:45 | #

Christians need not worry about terrestrial politics . Just relax. Old Jesus , when he awakes from his 2000 year snooze , will make sure that your proximate , post - mortem , stratospheric multicultural , penthouse will be free of White Nazis. Yahweh loves Democracy. Read the Jew - Book.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:14 | #

America is entering a terrible period in its history at an accelerating pace, now that the Left has taken control of all the critical reins of power in the government, as well as the mainstream media, social media, big tech, Hollywood and academia. Unfortunately, history teaches with laser clarity that there are no guardrails restraining the behavior of the Left when it is so empowered.
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Normative legacy Judeo-Christian values usually provide self correction against outrageous excesses from the Right. Even when conservatives have the power, they restrain themselves from, for example, committing full-on genocide. An example of this is seen in the late 19th Century, when it was completely within the power of the American government to implement a “final solution to the Red Indian problem,” but the government and the American people, then grounded in Judeo-Christian values, did not do so. (This is not to excuse the execrable and destructive Indian reservation system, but it was not genocide.) Likewise, America could have utterly destroyed Germany and Japan after 1945, but we did not do so. The harshly punitive Morgenthau Plan proposed by FDR’s socialist Secretary of the Treasury for post-war Germany came close in its intention, but it was not implemented.
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By comparison, the secular atheist (and now frankly insane) American Left has no self-correction mechanism. (Examples of contemporary Leftist insanity: transsexuals welcomed into the military, biological boys ordered onto girls sports teams and in girls locker rooms, etc.) This Leftist insanity is anything but unprecedented. From the French Revolution, to the Paris Commune, the Bolshevik Revolution and through all the horrors of 20th Century Communism, the Left has proven that when it is unchecked, it will drive at full speed straight off the cliff of civilized norms of behavior into totalitarian systems of guillotines, Gulags, forced starvations, and killing fields.

RTWT


https://www.americanpartisan.org/2021/01/there-are-no-guardrails-on-the-left/


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:32 | #

I’m sure Al will appreciate this. (LMFAO)

Adolf Hitler on Christianity: Quotes
Adolf Hitler Proclaimed his Faith in Jesus as Lord, Savior, and Inspiration

https://www.learnreligions.com/adolf-hitler-on-christianity-quotes-248190


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 03 Feb 2021 10:14 | #

  I do appreciate that Stalin spent six years in an Orthodox seminary learning about the preference old Yahweh entertained re Chosenites .  Stalin was so enamoured of Jews that he filled the Cheka ( and much else ) with them and watched happily while Gentiles were tormented and killed by their ancient Semitic enemies.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 03 Feb 2021 12:57 | #

Stalin was “enamored of the Jews.”?

Really?

During the early stages of the Soviet Union, Stalin used the viciousness of Jews as a means to an end; however, it is clear once Stalin became dictator his hatred-distrust of Soviet Jews began to manifest in many harsh ways.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 06 Feb 2021 05:51 | #

Many harsh ways , but sadly not enough.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 06 Feb 2021 06:32 | #

I enjoyed your amusing reference to ‘Judeo - Christian’ values.  It is exactly the same as ‘Fox - Chicken’ values.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 06 Feb 2021 13:51 | #

“It is exactly the same as ‘Fox - Chicken’ values.”

It is exactly the opposite.

Strip away Christian moral absolutes and you wind up with Leftist ideologies overwhelming the culture.

Are you a radical feminist, Al? Perhaps you’re a fag? Fags and radical feminists hate Christianity with the same intensity as you. That’s why I ask.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:19 | #

Marx’s Judaism - inspired Reformation of Christianity was called Communism.  I thought every educated person knew that much.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:12 | #

Fags ? Homosexuality could well have been invented for the priests of pre - Reformation Christianity and for a considerable historical margin beyond.


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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:33 | #

Thorn , the bloodthirsty mania that your imported , Oriental Religion has caused in Europeans has drastically reduced our numbers , culled our smartest and finest , and has perpetually been a catalyst for preserving Jewish EGI, with which it is now happily co - operating.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 13:53 | #

That’s an incredible worldview you have there, Al.

Ya know, we owe a debt of gratitude to GW for providing this forum. It provides a free speech zone to openly express ourselves - no matter how strange and ridiculous we might come across as.

Can’t say that for Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance website. New restrictions on commenting have taken effect. I don’t blame Jared. He and those whom comment on his site are the latest victims of the Federal government’s “war on domestic terrorism and “the war on disinformation.”

https://www.amren.com/blog/2021/02/a-note-to-our-commenters/

Free speech on the internet is fast becoming a thing of the past. Particularly if it promotes the EGI of the white race. Of course our ruling “elites” deem anyone who promotes the protection of whites as “white-supremacists.” The FBI has publicly proclaimed the incredible notion that “white-supremacism / white-nationalism” are America’s most dangerous domestic threat. The MSM repeats that lie 24/7.  Moreover, we know that that false accusation is part and parcel of our ruling class’ overarching war on “whiteness.”

We are losing ground.

 

 


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 16:19 | #

Thorn, thanks for the vote of appreciation.  This platform was built on the belief that there is something uniting us which transcends all our other differences.  The first four years of the blog, during which readership went through the roof, tested that thesis if not to destruction then close to it.  From 2008 we began to decline, and could not recover under Daniel’s leadership.  Today we are in no position to effect much influence.  Yet I am increasingly of the mind that the very destructive fissure which opened up here between what, at that time, I called minds and bloods ... rationalists, economistic actors, libertarians on the one hand and nationalists on the other ... has moved sideways.  Perhaps not greatly so yet.  Just to the extent that traditional conservatives, say, are sympathetic towards our peoples’ natural rights and interests in a way they weren’t in 2004-2008 (but were towards standard political conservatism). Surely with (a) the de-platforming of non-progressive voices, especially the Parler affair, (b) the Establishment patronising of Antifa and BLM, and (c) the imminent attack on white Americans, that change will accelerate considerably.  A dark and malignant force is falling upon the political life of the entire West, smothering everything it can; and the only practical and intellectually consistent beacon of resistance will be nationalism.  I hope MR will, in its quiet way, be able to stick around and do its bit, and I hope you two, as any and all readers and commenters, will continue to find some value in that.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 16:45 | #

You are entirely welcome, GW.

Here is a two part essay I think the readership here at MR will find both informative and relevant.

A Strange Game

Part I
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/02/07/a-strange-game/

Part II
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/strange-game-part-2


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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:18 | #

From 2008 we began to decline, and could not recover under Daniel’s leadership.

“Could not” is your self-serving term.

After putting up with trolling commentariat from certain perspectives for more than a year after I came to Majorityrights in December 2012, I was forced to the conclusion that it made no sense - it was counter productive and I would not waste time with just another platform catering to more of these same absurd, misdirecting types; and you would not do anything but render disconfirmation (as best you could) on their behalf, as it coincided with your self service.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:08 | #

LMFAO. Too bad there isn’t a laffy face button here at MR. Danny would acquire a baker’s dozen.


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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:22 | #

Are you laughing Thornblossom? and do I care? Take to your dead Jewish god on a stick and the committee that sends you here - lol back at you. Good riddance.


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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:37 | #

....the Jewish god that you serve, Thornblossom.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:38 | #

Are you not aware ppl with repugnant attitudes like yours is the reason why WN will never gain traction?
If you really want the white race to survive, go hide ... and just STFU!


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 03:43 | #

I appreciated your comment, GW.  I do not know Thorn and he does not know me . This does not matter as long as we stick to observed reality ( my preference ) and not theological fantasies ( his preference).


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:06 | #

Also , Daniel S , may I say that it is possible to over - intellectualize a simple and historically obvious concept like GW’s ( and my ) Nationalism.

Some people , like myself , are simply instinctive nationalists rather than recipients of doctoral supervisory wisdom.  Please do not think I am anti - academic , my wife has a PhD , and it does not interfere with her innate ‘small c’ conservatism or her race realism.

What I am labouring to suggest is that we are natural allies .


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:22 | #

@# 28

“I do not know Thorn and he does not know me .”

But in the very next sentence you contradict yourself.

You either know me or you don’t. So which is it?

Hint: it’s the latter. 

 


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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 14:21 | #

Al Ross #29:

The platform that I advocate is NOT over-intellectualized, not beholden to nor coerced by academics as GW has repeatedly tried to say; and “natural nationalism” is a more than dubious concept (by proposed contrast) given yours and his motives.


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 02:13 | #

OK, Daniel . On the other hand, fuck it.



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