Why your internet bubble protects the lies and illusion of Hitler/Nazi redemption.

Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, 23 October 2018 06:01.

Interesting that if one so much as intimates the slightest defense of Poland (e.g., against chauvinism and imperialism) that you will project your mindless German chauvinism (a troll commentor had said that I am a “mindless Polish chauvinist” and that is why MR is unpopular); with a reactionary part of a large demographic under more direct pressure of PC lies, thus going with the pretense that it cares for sheer truth by reaction - it is backed by Jewry as the third default position:

1) Sheer liberalism is their preferred position for Whites (direct betrayal of Whites and White atomization).

2) Christianity as it places Whites mindlessly under the yoke of Abrahamic law (the golden rule is mindless; the gentiles are not ethnicity organized as such).

3) Failing that, they will encourage Nazism - the clear chauvinism - as they know it will repulse most normal people and lead to antagonism among Whites where not otherwise sending us headlong into disaster. ..perhaps take care of some ‘traitorous’ Jews all too intermarried with Germans, Poles, other ‘goyim.’

4) Failing that they will encourage sundry and motley no-account, right wing reactions that help to atomize would-be White organization and coordination:

a) No account scientism and objectivism for the higher I.Q.

b) Conspiracy theories; and ideologies beyond reality and verification for the less intelligent;
or to cover that part of their intelligence that isn’t (lacks judgment).


I am not lonely, but your bubble that appears as camaraderie is based on illusion and lies; along with (((marketing))) of tropes and memes in YKW interest.

Enabling some stupid dude like yourself to absurdly accuse me of “mindless Polish chauvinism”, if I defend ethnonationalism.

Nor am I a chauvinist of any kind. I’m ethnonationalist, defending ethnonationalism of all kinds, but the European kind and its coordination to begin with.

Nazism is the clear imperialist supremacism, programmatic of disaster. And scientism - viz., scientistic reaction - is the mindlessness that lets it be guided headlong to disaster. Get with the reality of praxis instead, get with the ethnonational program.


J.F. Gariepy: “One of the major historians of World War II” Thomas Goodrich: “From what I’ve read..

..from what I’ve read it was a virtual massacre of German residents living in areas under Polish control.”


J.F. Gariepy: “Alright, so that would be quite shocking.”    Thomas Goodrich: “Or maybe”...

The real question is why recycled Nazi propaganda has any sort of currency today and why it should have any credibility beyond your typical Internet lunatic fringe.

For the answer, return to the top of the page and read again (further orienting clue, it’s part and parcel of the YKW’s interest in having Whites identify with right wing reaction).



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Posted by Marketing a new, "popular, devastating" (((meme))) on Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16 | #

...along with (((marketing))) of tropes and memes in YKW interest:

Case in point the sudden (((marketing))) of this supposedly popular and devastating trope against ‘the’ left called the ‘NPC’ ...

That nobody had heard of three days ago (but is just so overwhelming and devastating in its revelation of truth).

However, with shabbos goy Luke Ford, they’ve got people trying to market it as all the new big thing.

Colin Liddell and Andy Nowicky at their marketing service as well - “The NPC meme

...just so popular, so frightening, so devastating.


What a surprise, (((Frame Games))) is also talking about this supposedly overwhelming, supposedly spontaneous, new phenomenon:

“The Bonfire Of The NPCs”

Maybe he can tell us how we need to go through a five step grieving process to accept Jewish hegemony and integration with what White sell outs they will?


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Posted by GMC on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:50 | #

This Hitler/Nazi worship which is unfortunately so prevalent on many sites, makes me sick.

These people should read about the ‘Generalplan Ost’ to see what the Nazis were planning. I have no doubt that these plans would have been carried out, had they not have been stopped and soundly defeated in WW2.

Many say that Hitler was fighting a war against the Bankers. I do not believe that. 

Many Americans with German ancestry seem particularly keen to defend the Nazis.

Their views and opinions being skewed by illogical emotion.


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Posted by mancinblack on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:11 | #

Anthony Migchels, the author of this series of articles “Hitler’s Finances and the Myth of Nazi Anti-Usury Activism” demolishes the “Man Who Took on the Banks” meme for all but the online Gestapo.

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/


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Posted by GMC on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:25 | #

@ Mancinblack

Good link. Useful. Thanks for posting it.


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Posted by GMC on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:54 | #

@DanielS

Regarding number 4 in your OP.  I’ve often thought that some are doing their level best to dissuade people from even forming a decent pro-White organization, while at the same time they insist that they are themselves pro-White!
There is much duplicity out there on the internet.

As a new commenter on this site, I would just add that maybe MR would be more popular if the comment system here was updated. This system doesn’t even have a reply function. I can well understand if you didn’t want the Disqus mob here, but other comment systems are available.


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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:10 | #

Posted by GMC on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 09:54 | #

@DanielS

Regarding number 4 in your OP.  I’ve often thought that some are doing their level best to dissuade people from even forming a decent pro-White organization, while at the same time they insist that they are themselves pro-White!
There is much duplicity out there on the internet.

As a new commenter on this site, I would just add that maybe MR would be more popular if the comment system here was updated. This system doesn’t even have a reply function. I can well understand if you didn’t want the Disqus mob here, but other comment systems are available.

Welcome new commenter, GMC, and thank you very much for your feedback.

As you can see, the current means that we have for responding to another commenter is cutting, pasting and putting their comments in quotes, with the quote function in the tool bar just above the comment box.

I’m not sure whether the Disqus system would be better or some other system. As I recall, Kumiko mentioned that there were problems with that (she carefully considers these matters). Anyway, she’d be the one to address any such matter in detail.

.............

As for your comment on number 4, yes.

Addressing this issue has been a chief occupation of mine for some time now.

I have the working hypothesis (which is holding up perfectly well) that..

Especially (((huWhites))) who are funded to be on line all day and troll to their hearts content are doing just that, working to disrupt White organization.

In fact, the whole Alternative Right milieu was basically an (((op))) in that regard.

Particularly since the financial meltdown of 2008, when the YKW consolidated their theft and increased their hegemony in the 7 - 9 power niches, they have been concerned to condition people into treating “THE Left” as the great enemy and source of all problems. The reason being, because left connotes social organization and unionization against rank and file defection and elite betrayal and interests which are indifferent to the broad interests of the ethnonation.

With the organization and attention of that perspective, people would be looking at who is screwing us over in elite positions - YKW and right wing sell outs with excuses of pseudo objectivity - “it’s all those ‘lefties’ that are the problem, ‘they are not dealing with the natural reality of our greatness” ...“they want equality and there is no such thing.” ..“these social justice warriors and their fifty seven genders”..etc.

The key move is that they want you to be against the left as they define it. (((Paul Gottfried))) has taken the mantle of (((Frank Meyer*)))‘s paleoconservatism, as the yang to the (((neoconservative))) ying. Hence the Alternative Right was (((paleoconservatism))) in a bigger tent, adding basically anybody and any platform with an anti social position - from Christian universalism to Nazis sympathizers and see how well that worked out.

* Among her many contributions, we must thank Kumiko for revealing the history of (((paleoconservatism))) stemming from (((Frank Meyer))) - it is a means to bring us under either Abrahmic yoke or ojectivist blindness, primed to lead as sheeple and traitors. President Reagan kicked that off as a disciple of Frank Meyer.

The YKW do not want us redefining a left in White interests. My argument has been, however, we can do that and should do that.

A White Ethnonational Left:

Is not primarily about economics, the way Marxism is. It is social, quite literally, about our people, and accountability to them - our ethnonational borders and bounds. Our union, so to speak.

It would be concerned for social justice, of course, and that is why social accountability would be a central matter, though with a White difference - accounts requested (particularly for rank and file) should be kept to a minimum in order to respect our nature and liberty.

It is not against private property and relatively free enterprise, wealth and unequal outcomes.

It does not wall paper over differences in vocation and role, but does place all within one class - the ehtnonation and among the broader genus of the White class (White = of European extraction), while looking upon these differences as often incommensurate (not to be compared as ‘equal or unequal’) but complementary and to be harmonized among the class (the ethnonation).

Now, you are quite right that Whites are being encouraged to disrupt White organization as well, and that is being done by encouraging them to identify as “right wing” in reaction to the YKW’s bizarre misrepresentation of leftist organization, and its coalitions and distorted concepts (e.g., “workers of the world”?) deployed against Whites - i.e., to liberalize the White union boundaries, so to speak by metaphor.

Objectivism, objectivity (not recognizing the social need to gauge objective findings against our relative social group interests and to be accountable as such), scientific facticity, in attempt to void of that social accountability, bizarre theories of “communist take over” that require us to be ever vigilant about our individual liberties…

...add to that many other nut conspiracy theories and…

Yes, there are a myriad of tropes and memes that the YKW are deploying to destroy White organization and they are encouraging Whites to be right wingers, either naively reactionary or disingenuous sell outs, to join them in that “anti-leftism”, the busting of ethnonational unions and coalitions.

Of course the YKW don’t want us organizing (unless its under the Abrahamic yoke, as gentile Christians, but we are talking about number 4 now) and will do what they can to prevent it, encouraging all sorts of right wing nonsense and continued misrepresentation of the potential of left ethnonatioanalism as sundry anti-White liberalism that they’ve inflicted upon us.

They are also taking advantage of the broadest White demographics in America - German and Irish, which are going to be more prone to this misguided reaction, while providing audience and a better part of what limited funding there is to White advocacy.

But more broadly speaking, there are plenty of Whites who are foolish enough to fall for the trick (smart as they can be, STEM types, for their habit of attending to Augustinian, natural ‘devils’, are notorious dupes for Manichean trickery - the ‘devils’ of humanly changing opposition) and argue against their own organizational interests, along with plenty of other Whites who are willing to take the pay-off from the YKW against the interests of the White ethnonations and their nascent coalitions.


So, yes, your perception is correct, GMC.

Thank you for coming to Majorityrights and welcome.


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Posted by GMC on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:53 | #

@DanielS
I agree with all of that.

It really annoys me that so-called WN sites spend most of their time ridiculing what they refer to as ‘the left’ and ‘stupid lefties’. I know and respect many people irl, that are of the left and the ones that I know are intelligent and thoughtful people.

To bang on constantly about ‘lefties’ does absolutely nothing to further the cause of a genuine ethnonationalist movement. It has the exact opposite effect. Surely the people doing the disparaging of the left must know that. It makes me wonder what their real purpose is.  For them to blame all the ills of the world on ‘the left’ is simply crass.

One thing about the real (((PsTB))) is that they know that they have to take the people with them in order to succeed.

They bring about change that no one in their right minds would ever vote for. So they do it all surreptitiously and incrementally and a lot of people don’t even notice or question these changes. Some would no doubt accuse the left of participating in and assisting these changes. But the right help them too. I get the impression that the right would force changes on us. They haven’t really learned how to take the people with them. From the right’s pov it’s their way or they say this or that person is just a stupid leftie and their views count for nothing.

I knew also that the Alt-Right was really Alt-Shite from the out set.

“A White Ethnonational Left:”  Yes, I’d definitely be up for that.

Thank you for the welcome to this site.


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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 23:29 | #

GMC, excellent.

Ultimately, we seek colleagues and collaborators here, not disciples.

This is a participatory idea of knowledge generation not the transmission model of Moses with a tablet on a mountain delivering commandments for the chosen and gentiles; or some Jewish professor before a sycophantic classroom of passive students serving as conduits for his skullduggery.

And basically, people who want to work with YKW, blacks, Muslims and Christians have other places to go.


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Posted by And did they curse! on Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:16 | #

Two German soldiers, prisoners of war, don’t realize their cell is bugged and their conversation is being recorded by the British.

One casually discusses raping ‘lovely’ Ukrainian women with impunity - from their forced labor detail they are taken into an armored car and raped. “And did they curse!”


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Posted by Big Jews vs little Jews Part3 on Fri, 02 Nov 2018 04:39 | #

Big Jews vs Little Jews Part 3


JF was recently asked by a New York Times reporter about “Super Chat” donors donating the amount of “14/88”...

JF gave what he may have thought was a sound answer, that he tolerated the “88” as encouragement to World War II critique/ revisionism.

He added that people should be critical of World War II, especially, as he claimed, “Jewry declared war on the German nation first.”

That is not to say that he could not have been corrected on erroneous historiography - Kelso provides a good argument in rebut of the dubious claim that Jews were responsible for WWII through “a declaration of war” against Germany. We’ll go into Kelso’s argument a little later, in the audio series in critique of Nazi redemptionism that I’m about to initiate.

Gariepy doesn’t help his cause either by interviews and over the top endorsement of some right wing guests of dubious merit. Not only calling Roosh V. his greatest honor of all interviews, but just yesterday interviewing Tom Kawczynski and saying that Tom has one of the best understandings of the struggle that Whites are under and how they got there…

By five minutes into Kawczynski’s talk it was clear that he has far from the best understanding of what is going on.

Gariepy isn’t helping himself with things like that, hubris, interviewing right wingers of dubious judgement, showing insufficient knowledge on the historical matters, simply going with their narratives, using bad judgment of his own and inexperience that hurts his credibility despite his intelligence.


Oh, another example of Gariepy’s disingenousness/perfidy: he says he is a moral nihilist, that you can’t pass judgment on people (like Stephan Molineux, as he was discussing in this case).

You can’t pass moral judgement on a adult, e.g. (not talking about Molineux now) who is a pedophile?  This moral nihilist position of Gariepy’s is ridiculous.

..........


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Posted by mancinblack on Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:11 | #

The link to the Dresden video (which is pretty good) isn’t working Daniel.


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Posted by Three arrows on Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:30 | #

Thanks Mancinblack. Let’s see if it works this time.

...Yes, it is working this time. Thanks again.


“What People get Wrong about the Bombing of Dresden”


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Posted by ned flanders on Wed, 28 Nov 2018 03:04 | #

I don’t like J.F.G. either but your website also posts a lot of bullshit…
Lol, links from mainstream (((media))) too? LMFAO!

Interesting to note how you guys never question the holocaust….
Hmmmmm…


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 28 Nov 2018 04:11 | #

I wouldn’t say that we post a lot of bullshit. We are pretty careful about our content and do not like to mislead. We will stand corrected where we should. Links provided, including any links to media controlled by (((them))), if not about scientific/factual matters that cannot be distorted so much that they can’t be readily and independently verified, then are generally in-the-ballpark consensus and posted with the comment section and its capacity to function as a corrective in mind - that is to say, inaccuracies can be corrected here.

“The great contribution of the pragmatists is to show that fallibilism and anti-skepticism are compatible.”

Regarding the holocaust, right wing sources are far from beyond fallible either (Faurisson and Butz, sheesh!).

We have taken the position regarding the topic of being critical primarily in the sense of what Dr. Lindtner, here and here, calls ‘holocaustianity”, that is to say, where the consequences of Operation Reinhardt are treated as a religion, the lives of Jews elevated to a greater importance than those of other people; and their victimization weaponized to punish subsequent generations who had nothing to do with it.

Face palms over bullshit and tactlessness haven’t usually occurred from mainstream links, but have been far more likely to occur from right wing commentators saying things that were left in place to be conciliatory to positions more Nazi sympathetic than mine, to assure onlookers that we are not uncritical of Jewry and not mere cowards. I can think of an instance of a commentator having written a poem making merriment of the act of Frazier Glenn Miller - which was nothing but stupid and destructive - should’ve been taken down sooner.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:35 | #

“Operation Reinhardt”

If I recall correctly it was in vol. 2 of Richard Evans’ history trilogy on the Third Reich that I encountered the claim that hundreds of thousands of Jooooos were gassed to death in rickety wooden sheds in one of the “Reinhardt” camps.  Hard to imagine getting much of a hermetic seal on an old wooden shed.  But if the Joooze say it’s so, then we must believe - as DanielSperg apparently does.


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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 29 Nov 2018 04:06 | #

Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:35 | #

“Operation Reinhardt”

If I recall correctly it was in vol. 2 of Richard Evans’ history trilogy on the Third Reich that I encountered the claim that hundreds of thousands of Jooooos were gassed to death in rickety wooden sheds in one of the “Reinhardt” camps.  Hard to imagine getting much of a hermetic seal on an old wooden shed.  But if the Joooze say it’s so, then we must believe - as DanielSperg apparently does.

I’m not very familiar with the book nor the claim, I may have heard some people talking about something like that (wooden “gas chambers” that wouldn’t work) but didn’t consider it interesting as I do not consider it relevant enough to our self defense. I find people who belabor dissimulation of Reinhardt to be creepy; and most normal people probably find people who go the route toward denial to be frightening. I do not consider the Holocaust, Operation Reinhardt or whatever it might be called, to be relevant enough to our self defense. Did you do it? Did the Germans or anyone else of today do it? Should we be punished for it?

Belaboring fallacious claims, e.g., wooden gas chambers, is not most helpful to unburdening of guilt.

From my point of view, it is unhelpful to belabor the issue, to deny that there was a program like that (Reinhardt) or to belabor dispute over aspects or particulars (to centralize some authors’ claim about wooden gas chambers). There is a place for that (particularly inasmuch as it calls-out holocaustianity) but it is topical not categorical of White National defense.

Even if the Nazis were more horrible than Nazi sympathizers claim that they were to Jewry, it could lend to a powerful clue and argument that there may have been instigating factors in Jewish patterns to provoke such malice and thus separatism is all the more necessary.



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