Christianity explains Jesse Hughes (Eagles of Death Metal) Confused Identity & allegiance

Posted by DanielS on Monday, 23 November 2015 08:33.

For his insolent defiance of Roger Waters plea that he not play Israel, he might have been singing “We don’t need no education” right along with Pink Floyd .....but actually, maybe Jesse Hughes, his friends and fans could use a little. Try a caveat on Abrahamic fellowship.

Jesse Hughes, commencing an Eagles of Death Metal concert, Tel Aviv, 12 July 2015:

Now I’m also going to tell you another true story before I bring the rest of the boys up here. We decided to end the tour in this fuckin’ city because we knew we couldn’t top it once we got here. That is 87 percent the absolute truth. But then we got this letter from this cocksucker named Roger Waters (jeers from crowd). Do you want to know what I wrote that cocksucker back? Two words: Fuck You!...Fuck You! Ain’t nobody goin’ to keep me from my people here in Tel Aviv! Ain’t Nobody!

Among other blundering statements, Hughes referred to Israelis as ‘his people.’ Unless there is something that we don’t know about him, they are not his people. The crowd at Bataclan, who should be referred to as “his people”, apparently did not know either that Israelis are not their people, or perhaps did not think attending a concert of someone who said that should, would, cost them their lives.

International Business Times, ‘Paris attacks: Eagles of Death Metal defied pro-Palestine boycott movement and Roger Waters to play Israel’, 20 Nov 2015:

A video has emerged of Eagles of Death Metal berating Pink Floyd founder and anti-Israel campaigner Roger Waters at a gig in Tel Aviv months before the Paris shooting at the Bataclan theatre.

The clip, from the band’s Tel Aviv concert in July, shows lead singer Jesse Hughes offering an expletive-laden riposte to a letter sent to the band by Waters urging them to shun Israel. It has been circulated in the wake of atrocities that claimed the lives of 132 people on 13 November.

In it Hughes tells the Tel Aviv crowd the band decided to end their tour in the city because they “could not top it”. The audience then boos mention of the Waters letter before Hughes shouts: “You want to know what I wrote that c********r back? Two words: f**k you!”

Waters, who has been accused of anti-Semitism, joined the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement - an anti-Israel pressure group - in 2012. Upon joining he called out to other musicians in an article he wrote for the Guardian: “[This is] a plea to my colleagues in the music industry, and also to artists in other disciplines, to join this cultural boycott.”

Roger Waters wrote to Eagles of Death Metal to urge them to boycott Israel.

The Paris attacks brought the video of Eagles of Death Metal back into focus because the formerly Jewish-owned Bataclan theatre which in the past has hosted pro-Israel Army events, and where the band were performing the night 89 people were killed, had supposedly been harassed by pro-Palestinian supporters in 2008.

Jesse Hughes is a “devout Christian.” That explains his confusion over who “his people are.”

He was interviewed before the Tel Aviv concert by “Consequence of Sound”..

CoS, ‘Fly Like an Eagle of Death Metal: An Interview with Jesse Hughes’, 1 Oct 2015:

At 43, Jesse Hughes hasn’t become an old man just yet. With the energy of a 16-year-old, he makes the most eccentric man in the world sound like a boozy liar.

The Eagles of Death Metal frontman has an opinion — often obscenity-filled — about everything. “But I’m not a bag of wind!” he insists. Around 30 minutes after our prearranged meeting time, before Eagles of Death Metal’s show in July, Hughes appears at his trendy hotel in the heart of Tel Aviv with two Israeli locals he just met at the falafel stand down the road. He’s dressed in typical Hughes attire: black-and-white-striped t-shirt with the sleeves cut off, suspenders, light jeans, and a neon green trucker cap with “Eagles of Death Metal” printed in Hebrew lettering.

A second after we meet, he’s chatting away on a tangent. Hughes is rarely off one. He sounds bluesy, even lusty when he talks, and when he gets especially riled up on a topic, he’ll bow his head, slap his knee, and speak like a southern debutant, referring to his fans as “the kids.” Hughes is as verbose as your archetypal reverend, hardly getting through his thoughts without breaching into song and then dissolving into giggles. Present him with a handshake or a voice recorder, and the truth serum starts to work.

Yeah, I’ve been shot before. Look. [shows scar on armpit] It made a canal through one of my muscles. I’ll tell you how it went down: I was going through a really ugly divorce, and I’m a devout Christian, so divorce isn’t a concept to me. I went through a very typical, clichéd “I served you my whole life, and this is what I get” anger. I weighed about 250 pounds, I was a big ol’ redneck boy. I was managing this privately owned chain of video stores and part-time freelancing for the Republican Party and speech writing and shit like that. The most awful thing I could think of immediately was to start taking speed. I lost 80 pounds, got really depressed. My mother called Joshua [Homme] because she felt he was one of the only dudes I listened to.

He dishes it out today. During our conversation, he gets into the full specifics of being saved from addiction by bandmate Joshua Homme, how he’s already written half of EODM’s next album, and how he’s struggling to convince everyone he’s a devout Christian who gets high and uses the phrase “titty-wobbling.” He talks about his face being a nipple on his album cover as seriously as his faith. “I know what you’re thinking — my life’s a contradiction,” he admits.

It’s dark stuff, but Jesse “The Devil” Hughes has a wicked sense of humor — crushing, hypnotic, and frequently laugh-out-loud ridiculous. “My way of thinking is,” he shrugs, “it’s gonna be harder in hell for me than for y’all. I’m just not going to be the fool that doesn’t know why he’s there.”

Christianity and its Enlightened step-child play a strong part in the confused identity and allegiance of welcomers as well.. ...and in the upshot of that confusion…

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Addendum:

Note that troll JamesUK likes to associate us with the right-wing circus and any sort of unflattering speculation that he possibly can; but I will leave that aside, at least for now in order to address this:

“Didn’t you say in a previous posting that Eagles of Death Metal represented white culture?”

I said that the Eagles of Death Metal fans represent implicitly White culture. Evidently their fans are predominantly White genetically; but the fact that the band leader, and likely a significant percentage of their fans, have a confused identity (case in point, thinking that Jews can be a part of their kin) as a result of Christianity and other Jewish crypsis, provides an excellent occasion to address those implicitly White demographics who suffer this confused identity as a result of Christianity.

I was not wrong to treat them as an implicitly White demographic, that remains true.

The band and audience alike reinforce this assumption by appearance, by the likelihood that they are predominantly, genetically White (European).

However, the band’s confused identity is misleading from the start, with their name: one associates death metal with paganism, a Nordic paganism defiant of Christianity in particular - and therefore assumes that the band and audience would have little to do with identifying as Israelis, with Judaism, or even its offspring, Christianity - let alone Hughes vehement “devotion.”

Hughes’ devout Christianity compounds the confused identity by taking his erstwhile White identity and enmeshing it with the Jewish narrative and identity, albeit as servile gentile other in relation to Israel, Jews and other non-Whites - the “undifferentiated gentile others”, as GW says.

As Hughes also made clear (unclear rather), in the CoS interview, he is quite contradicted and does not even expect to be recognized by the Abrahamic god.

His fans at the Bataclan also reflect and express this ambiguous identity, but with good natured participation in a bit of carousing, defiant music, irreverent language, devil sign, etc. I say “good natured” because they were apparently healthy, functioning people who had bearings outside of sex-drugs-rockn’roll.

Nevertheless, they lightheartedly though naively frolic with the Jewish god, tweak its nose and defy its rules for some practical latitude despite the unfortunate necessity of trafficking in its terms to some extent for the historical fact of their moral order having been entangled with it for two centuries. They are fooled by it on a profound level, however, as their seriousness, their devout service is reserved for the “other” - not for themselves - as they identify as the other.

That is in contrast the Muslims, who have their own form of puritanical servility to the Abrahamic god, submission to the Jewish god.

By further contrast to the Muslims, a certain amount of ambiguity, variety of sacrament and celebration is good and necessary in the social world of praxis - acceptance of that adds to the claim that the Bataclan audience have an aspect of good naturedness - i.e., an aspect that is not puritanical or fanatical in a way that does not allow their people to be human, social creatures and to be themselves in their particular, idiosyncratic White ways.

A homogeneous looking band and audience that accepts the misnomer of “death metal” provided the first clue that they have a good natured acceptance of some ambiguity, non-purity, i.e., an acceptance even of some relation to aspects of their natural White identity, even if only implicitly.

However, the extent of their connection to the Abrahamic religion contradicts that and brought them into the fold of its absolutizing fight, which will accept no other identity - will not accept White identity as the separate social entity that it is. Some of them came into ultimate confrontation of inhumanity to their humanity in social difference as a people separate from the Jewish god of Muslims.

The confused identity of our people at Bataclan became a confused message that the Israelis accepted disingenuously, that ISIL accepted on face value, that the band, audience, and I, allowed for in good faith - a confusion nevertheless inadvertently passed-on in the news of their death, presenting a perfect reason and occasion to sort-it-out here.

Tags: Activism, Anti-racism, Awakenings, Christianity, Education, Free Speech, Immigration, Immigration and Politics, Islam & Islamification, Jewish Diaspora, That Question Again, U.S. Politics, White Genocide: Europe

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Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Mon, 23 Nov 2015 18:05 | #

They seem to be confused about what genre they are on top of all that. Eagles of Death Metal isn’t even a death metal band apparently, they are a rock and roll band.

Everything also makes sense on that level as well, because only rock and roll would be able to accommodate such glaring contradictions.

Death metal takes itself far more seriously and as such could never give rise to such a sequence of events.

Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 23 Nov 2015 22:54 | #

There ain’t no cure for stupidity + a big mouth + the rock ‘n roll life + Christianity. Unless, of course, that lost European compositional genius re-emerges. But that would only happen as a side-effect of something much greater historically.

Posted by jamesUK on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:07 | #

Didn’t you say in a previous posting that Eagles of Death Metal represented white culture?

“In the case of the French attacks, however, not only did they choose to target the implicitly White culture of The Eagles of Death Metal fans [at Bataclan theatre]”

I know this comment will get deleted by the online Stasi on this website but what do you think of Richard Spencer and his recent NPI conference and the rumour surrounding Mr Spencer?

Posted by DanielS on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:55 | #

Note that troll JamesUK likes to associate us with the right-wing circus and any sort of unflattering speculation that he possibly can; but I will leave the Spencer bit aside, whatever it is, at least for now in order to address this:

“Didn’t you say in a previous posting that Eagles of Death Metal represented white culture?”

I was not wrong to treat them as an implicitly White demographic, that remains true.

The band and audience alike reinforce this assumption by appearance, by the likelihood that they are predominantly, genetically White (European).

As Hughes also made clear (unclear rather), in the CoS interview, he is quite contradicted and does not even expect to be recognized by the Abrahamic god.

His fans at the Bataclan also reflect and express this ambiguous identity, but in their good natured participation in a bit of carousing, defiant music, irreverent language, devil sign, etc. I say “good natured” because they were apparently healthy, functioning people who had bearings outside of sex-drugs-rockn’roll.

Nevertheless, they lightheartedly though naiivly frolic with the Jewish god, tweak its nose and defy its rules for some practical latitude despite the unfortunate necessity of trafficking in its terms to some extent for the historical fact of their moral order having been entangled with it for two centuries. They are fooled by it on a profound level, however, as their seriousness, their devout service is reserved for the “other” - not for themselves - as they identify as the other.

That is in contrast the Muslims, who have their own form of puritanical servility to the Abrahamic god, submission to the Jewish god.

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Posted by Chri$tian $ervice$ on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:10 | #

We discussed talking to Ann Corcoran; and a lengthy comment was entered regarding her article on what was happening in Saint Cloud, Minnesota as a result of Lutheran Services (shocking) big money contracts (among other sober facts that she astutely notes) for those who comply to situate migrants in The United States. We noted this story in particular.

MR was down for 10 days soon after and that must have been among the comments that were lost at that time; it is just as well for now - she and Palmgren continue to blame THE left .”

Posted by Big $ for Chri$tian refugee re$ettlement admin$ on Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:09 | #

Refugee Resettlement Watch, ‘Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota is responsible for the Somali chaos in St. Cloud’, Posted by Ann Corcoran on March 26, 2015:

If you are angry (about the tension in St. Cloud) and want one entity to blame, it is Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota, the primary federal refugee resettlement agency working in St. Cloud!

That supposedly ‘Christian’ charitable organization is directly responsible for the high Somali numbers in St. Cloud, and they are jointly responsible for bringing over ten thousand Somalis from around the world to colonize Minnesota towns in the last ten years alone—Catholic Charities and World Relief MN (now Arrive Ministries)*** helped also. Of course they have brought many more than 10,000 in over two decades and not just Somali Muslims!

Rumor has it that 1,500 new Somalis are going to be resettled by the Lutherans in St. Cloud this year. (This is part of former Rep. Michele Bachmann’s district!)

Doing well by doing good? Jodi Harpstead is making over $300,000 a year to seed St. Cloud and other Minnesota towns with Somali Muslims.

These three ‘Christian’ phony non-profits (phony Christians!) could stop the US State Department’s further seeding of the state if they just said NO! We won’t resettle any more Muslim ‘refugees.’ But they don’t! Why?

Why? Because it is big business (as we learned from Lutherans in New England)! They dare not challenge their sugar daddy—the federal government! And, they must be afraid of the growing power of the Islamists and the Islamist front group—Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)—which they are responsible for unleashing on the city of St. Cloud.
So how much money does it take to buy the Lutherans?

Back in 2013 we told you that then Minnesota Lutheran CEO, Mark Peterson, was pulling down a salary of $441,767.

We went to a recent audit linked on their website and here are some numbers we found (audit ending September 30, 2014):

They had total revenue of $103,135,439 and received $91,887,312 from GOVERNMENT FEES AND GRANTS. (Go here and click on ‘financials’ to see for yourself).
That makes them 89% government funded! That is a government agency not a charity, and surely not a ‘Christian’ charity!

The progressive ‘religious Left’ is living off of the US taxpayer!

Doing well by doing good?

Salaries and payroll accounted for $57,929,172 of your money—your tax dollars for that one year!

Jodi doesn’t pull down a salary as high as Peterson (LOL! War on women?) her predecessor did, but it is fairly substantial none-the-less as we learned from a recent Form 990. She was compensated with $280,812 and an additional $42,495 came from related organizations (whatever that is!).

Her second in command, Kenneth Borle, made $202,087 and $33,192 (from related organizations).

They have 8 other employees making over six-figure salaries!

Go here for the others in leadership at Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota responsible for building the aggressive and demanding Muslim population of the state.
And if you are looking for more people to blame for what is happening to Minnesota, here is the Board of Directors (do you know any of them?):
Board of Directors

Greg Vandal, Chair
Nancy Rystrom, Vice Chair
Cathy Norelius, Secretary
Sue Haffield, Treasurer *
Bishop Thomas Aitken
Dan Anderson
Mike Anderson
Rev. Dr. Eric Barreto
Ann Beatty
Dr. Paul Dovre
Jon Evert
Nicole Griensewic Mickelson
Rev. John Hogenson
Rev. Dr. Rolf Jacobson
Jen Julsrud
John Mattes
Artie Miller
Joanne Negstad
Joan Wandke Nelson
Rev. Mark Skinner
Bishop Ann Svennungsen
Rev. Mari Thorkelson
Lori Wall

The main office of Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota is here (below). It is time to let them know how you feel, to put the pressure on the organization directly responsible for disrupting St. Cloud.
Good Lutherans especially need to speak up!

Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota
2485 Como Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55108
651.642.5990
800.582.5260

And, according to the US State Department’s handy list of contractors the St. Cloud Lutheran resettlement agency office is here:

LIRS
MN-LIRS-08: Lutheran Social Services Of Minnesota
Address:
22 Wilson Avenue Suite 110
St. Cloud, MN 56302
Phone:
320-251-7700
One more thing! Tell Rep. Trey Gowdy what he has in store for his community if a refugee resettlement site is established in Spartanburg, SC.

See our complete archive on St. Cloud here. And, click here, for an enormous archive on Minnesota. See especially our earliest post (2011), and one of our top posts of all time, when we first learned of the three ‘Christian’ groups swamping Minnesota with Somalis at the behest of the US State Department.

*** An indicator that the heat is on some of these phony Christian organizations is that they are changing their names. Note that World Relief Minnesota is now Arrive Ministries and Lutheran Social Services of New England is now Ascentria Care Alliance.

Posted by jamesUK on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:03 | #

I’m banned.

Posted by jamesUK on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:07 | #

Just testing to see if I could post a comment as when I tried twice before on later posts my comments were being flagged as spam.

Posted by Jesse Hughes quotes on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:59 | #

From times prior: telling quotes from Jesse Hughes

Posted by Mick Lately on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:11 | #

Bono the gobshite and Jesse the dipshit together on stage in an “emotional” act of “defiance”.

Both have professed worship of Sweet Baby Jesus in the past.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3350184/Eagles-Death-Metal-make-emotional-return-Paris-join-U2.html

“In this season of goodwill, let’s pray that Hewson & Hughes go the same way as Dimebag Darrell pretty soon.”

Posted by A song for right-wing c**s on Wed, 09 Mar 2016 00:08 | #

A song to right-wingers, alt-wise and other c**ts:

Who are they?

Mayday.

Who are they?

Where do they get the clouds that must be made?

Who are.

They to say.

This is the way it is believe or perish.

They are.

Here to pray.

They never tell me what I need to know.

We are.

On our own.

Our souls are free and we are here to stay.

Lyrics, composition and keyboards by Jan Hammer

Blue Wind

Posted by Abrahamic religions, learn the difference on Fri, 25 Mar 2016 19:23 | #

Abrahamic religions, learn the difference

Posted by Gene Simmons (KISS) interview on Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:59 | #

Gene Simmons of KISS interviewed by NPR’s Terry Gross

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Posted by One year anniversay of Bataclan massacre on Sat, 12 Nov 2016 16:13 | #

Tour managers explain adjustments on this one year anniversary of Bataclan massacre

Posted by Isil cells in Italy, Germany, UK on Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:04 | #

DM, “Isis has planted sleeper cells in the UK, Germany and Italy and ‘taken advantage’ of Europe’s migrant crisis, head of American intelligence warns”, 26 April 2016:

Director Of National Intelligence James Clapper spoke to reporters in Washington, DC Monday

Confirmed ISIS was conducting underground activities in the UK, Germany and Italy

Said there was continued evidence of ISIS plotting in these countries

Barack Obama urged European countries to share information with each other to prevent other attacks

For more of the latest Islamic State news visit http://www.dailymail.co.uk/isis

Posted by Rabbi Baruch Efrati & friends on Wed, 21 Aug 2019 20:06 | #

Rabbi Baruch Efrati is head of a yeshiva and the community rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Efrat. He is not some fringe rabbi; he heads the “Derech Emunah” (Way of Torah) movement of leading Israeli Orthodox rabbis, and is frequently interviewed as an authority by Israeli media. In a November 2012 sermon that was uploaded online and quoted in Israeli media, Efrati said:

“Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe’s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly. Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity.

“And now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for. With the help of God, the Gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt. Even if we are in a major war with the region’s Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a Gentile culture than Christianity.”

In a sermon uploaded directly to his Liveleak account on 20 November 2013, Rabbi David Touitou, a French-speaking Haredi rabbi based out of Ashdod, Israel (according to his Facebook) and appears to be connected to the Jewish supremacist Chabad movement, proclaimed:

“You will pay dearly for it Europeans! To such an extent that you have no idea! And you will have no place to run to. Because all the evil you have done to Israel [the Jews], you will pay for it a hundred-fold. When Italy will be gone, when Edom (that is why Christianity’s headquarters, which come from ‘Hessal’, is there), when that place will be gone, and that’s what Islam is going to do. Islam is the broom of Israel, you have to know it. So, instead of having us do all the job, He sends Ishmael to solve the problem. When he is going to clean all this and that the wine will come back home, then it’s Melah Ramachiar(?).

“The war of God and Magog, this furious war that we are all waiting for. The Rafet Israim(?) said: ‘Do not expect to see anything other than Islam stand up against Edom [Europe/Christendom].’ According to the Rafet Israim(?), the Gog and Magog war is that Islam in Europe will rise as one man and they have everything to succeed. This war in the world we live in is necessary. Why is it necessary? Because one is going to use the other so that Israel does not enter war, and this will cause Ishmael [Arab world] to rise against Islam.

“What you are undergoing in France, in Europe, which is so scary, it should be for us the most beautiful news of our Jewish history. Finally, we begin to approach it! Finally, we begin to realize what the sages had predicted before. What I told you before is written in Sanhedrin [book of the Talmud]. The Messiah will come only when Edom, Europe, Christianity will have fallen completely. So, I am asking you the question: Is it good news that Islam is invading Europe? It’s excellent news! It’s announcing the arrival of the Messiah! Excellent news!”

In the same compilation video, another French-speaking Haredi rabbi said: “And that at the end of time everyone will see his account settled. Great carnage will be prepared in the country of Edom (Rome). It is a day of vengeance for the eternal year of retaliation for the cause of Sion. All of this is written by the Prophet Isaiah.”

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