What happens when WNs accept Russian news reports uncritically?

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Monday, 12 October 2015 04:29.

What happens when WNs accept Russian news reports uncritically? They get misled, that’s what happens. Lasha Darkmoon has an article titled “America furious at Russia’s stunning successes in Syria”. It’s based on an article which she took from Fort Russ, which was titled “Russian operation in Syria revealed the real sponsors of terrorism to the world”.

Let’s examine the core claims of Darkmoon’s Russian-derived article.

Russian claim #1:

Darkmoon, ‘America furious at Russia’s stunning successes in Syria’, 10 Oct 2015:

As soon as the Russian air force began to inflict serious blows, the Americans threw a tantrum fit. This is because ISIL militants had appealed to them for help.

Actual Reality: The Americans ‘threw a tantrum’ because the Russians were bombing everything without any concern for the balance of powers in the areas that they were hitting. This led to ISIL in fact gaining ground in some places such as Aleppo, and even involved instances where ISIL was able to induce the Russians to hit ISIL’s inter-sectarian opponents.

See here:

Guardian, ‘Isis seizes ground from Aleppo rebels under cover of Russian airstrikes’, 10 Oct 2015:

Islamic State militants have scored their most significant advances in the province of Aleppo, the closest they have come to Syria’s former commercial capital in two years, as it becomes increasingly clear that they are taking advantage of Russian airstrikes against the rest of the opposition to march into new territory.

As Russian planes continued to pound rebel forces in western Aleppo and other frontlines in the country, many of the opposition fighters who ousted Isis from the province at great cost last year found themselves pinned down and unable to halt the terror group’s largely unopposed advance towards the city at the end of last week.

“Russian planes are striking the Free Syrian Army and laying the groundwork for Daesh [Isis] control of strategic areas in Aleppo,” said a source from Tajammu al-Izzah, a moderate opposition group backed by western and Gulf states which has been hit by Russian airstrikes. “The truth is that Russia is backing Isis.”

[...]

On Friday, taking advantage of the Russian bombing of western Aleppo that has forced the rebels to reinforce their defensive lines there, Isis pivoted towards the south and within hours had taken control of a series of towns and villages to the north of the city of Aleppo, the closest it has come since it was defeated by the opposition.

“Russia entered with the excuse of fighting Daesh and has barely bombed them,” said a religious official serving with Jaysh al-Fateh, a coalition of rebels fighting the Assad government and whose fighters have been targeted by the Russian airstrikes.

“Russia did not come to fight Daesh. Why didn’t they and the American coalition prevent them from advancing in northern Aleppo when they send armoured vehicles through the open desert before everyone’s eyes?

“It is clear that both Russia and the regime are laying the groundwork for Daesh,” he added. “We have a joke here that they all have one operations room.”

[...]

The war is more complicated than Russians believe it is. Sometimes, what happens is that one Islamist group is incited to fight against another Islamist group because of competing territorial claims, or doctrinal disagreements, or because they are a front for a state-backed militia group which is using theological justifications for creating infighting within a particular sect. Because of this, radical Sunni Muslims can sometimes be fighting other radical Sunni Muslims.

If Russia simply gallivants into the middle of that situation and indiscriminately bombs everything that looks like an Islamist, they might in fact be upsetting the balance of terrorism—for lack of a better way of putting it—in a way that could unintentionally lead to ISIL gains.

Which appears to be precisely what the Russians have caused with their ham-fisted approach.

Russian claim #2:

Darkmoon, ‘America furious at Russia’s stunning successes in Syria’, 10 Oct 2015:

More than 50 aircraft were transported to Syria. More than 2000 people were transported in transport aircraft to Syria. And not one of the vaunted NATO radars in Turkey, Bulgaria or the other countries in the region were efficient enough to record all this activity!

Actual Reality: Even civilian observers were able to see the movement of Russian aircraft.

Here’s an example:

The Aviationist, ‘Latest imagery shows 28 Russian aircraft (12 Su-24s, 12 Su-25s and 4 Su-30s) on the ground at airbase in Syria’, 22 Sep 2015:

A satellite image has finally unveiled the whole Russian Air Force contingent made of 28 combat planes deployed to Syria: taken on Sept. 21, the photograph shows 4 Su-30SMs, 12 Su-25SMs and 12 Su-24s lined up, in the open air, along runway 17L at al-Assad International Airport, near Latakia, in western Syria.

[...]

And another example:

The Aviationist, ‘Six Russian Su-34 Fullback bomber have just arrived in Syria. And this is the route they have likely flown to get there.’, 29 Sep 2015:

Six Sukhoi Su-34 aircraft have eventually arrived at Latakia to join the Russian contingent already there.

Images allegedly shot around the al-Assad International Airport clearly show one Russian Fullback about to land at the airbase in western Syria where 28 Russian aircraft have arrived last week.

@ain92ru @pfc_joker @oryxspioenkop They arrived! pic.twitter.com/JCi4bIT4F5

— LuftwaffeAS (@LuftwaffeAS) 28 Settembre 2015

One of the photos taken from the ground shows the six aircraft trailing what seems to be an airliner over Idlib: the larger plane is probably a Russian Air Force Tu-154.

Said to be an airliner/transporter accompanied with 6 fighters crossing over Hama country side pic.twitter.com/cPbjVZssyi

— LuftwaffeAS (@LuftwaffeAS) 28 Settembre 2015

Interestingly, a Russian Air Force Tu-154 using callsign RFF7085 could be tracked online on Flightradar24 during its flight to Latakia on Sept. 28, likely exposing the route followed by the six Su-34s trailing their accompanying Tu-154.

As the below image shows, the aircraft flew in international airspace over the Caspian Sea, to Iran and entered Syrian airspace after flying over northern Iraq: did the Su-34s have all the required diplomatic clearances to fly north of Baghdad or did they simply “sneak” into Syria by hiding under the cover of the transport plane?

Hard to say.

Last week, US officials said that the first 28 Russian combat planes hid under the radar signature on the larger transport aircraft, in an attempt to avoid detection but there are chances that the flights had all the required clearances from the Iraqi Air Traffic Control agencies and were conducted as a standard long-range ferry flight: one tanker/airlifter, using radio and transponder, supporting multiple fast jets.

H/T to @LuftwaffeAS and @obretix. Image credit: Flightradar24.com.

If even random civilians on the internet can see it, that’s probably a sign that their operations are not invisible, and are in fact being meticulously recorded—by civilians. At that point, whether NATO is or is not watching, becomes frankly irrelevant.

Russian claim #3:

Darkmoon, ‘America furious at Russia’s stunning successes in Syria’, 10 Oct 2015:

US and ISIL (or ISIS) have close ties [...]

This statement seems to be based on a photograph that purports to show Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi with John McCain.

Actual Reality: The man sitting with John McCain is not Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.

Not Baghdadi Image 2

I’m sure you can all agree that the Russians were not even trying with that one. I’ll be charitable and assume that’s their idea of a joke. The man with John McCain obviously looks nothing like Al-Baghdadi. He is a member of the Northern Storm Brigade, a group which is fighting against ISIL.

Russian claim #4:

Darkmoon, ‘America furious at Russia’s stunning successes in Syria’, 10 Oct 2015:

There is no perfidy here. We alerted everyone in advance what we were about to do. This included Netanyahu.

Actual Reality: That is true, the Russians did inform Israel in advance. They decided to be courteous to Israel. It’s a really stupid thing to do, given that Netanyahu has no particular reason to keep any of the information secret from ISIL, as it is in Israel’s geostrategic interest to let ISIL carry on wreaking havoc on Syria.

Recall this fact:

The Algemeiner, ‘Israeli Officials: We’d Prefer Al-Qaeda-Run Syria to an Assad Victory’, 04 Jun 2013:

[...]

According to Israel Hayom, senior Israeli officials were quoted as saying that “al-Qaeda control over Syria would be preferable to a victory by Assad over the rebels.”

Officials believe that an Assad victory would strengthen Iran, as a weakened Syrian regime would become more reliant on the Islamic Republic. The Iran-Hezbollah-Syria axis would thus become an even greater threat to Israel, the officials said.

“Assad is now Iran,” the officials said, according to Israel Hayom. “Any of these groups would be less problematic for Israel than an Assad regime that is a puppet of Iran,” the officials were quoted as saying.

It’s anyone’s guess as to whether Israel’s calculus on that issue has changed since 2013. By “any of these groups”, that can mean Al-Qaeda which they mentioned, but it could also mean they’d be okay with letting ISIL run around doing things too, because “any” means “any”, right? Who can know for sure?

Yet Russia does this, regardless:

Jewish Telegraphic Agency, ‘Russia informed Israel ahead of airstrikes in Syria on ISIS’, 30 Sep 2015:

[...]

Russian officials reportedly contacted their Israeli defense establishment counterparts about an hour before the attack, Israel’s Channel 2 reported. Russian government officials also contacted Yossi Cohen, the national security adviser in the Prime Minister’s Office, Haaretz reported, citing unnamed senior Israeli officials.

Last week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with Putin in Moscow to discuss the security threats to Israel from Syria. During the meeting, the two leaders agreed to coordinate between the Israeli and Russian militaries in order to avoid conflicts over Syria. Putin also told Netanyahu that Syria is not in a position to open a second front against Israel.

[...]

So in summary, the only one of those Russian claims which is true, happens to be the most disastrously idiotic one in practice. Apparently the Russians have never heard the phrase ‘loose lips sink ships’, since the loud-mouthed Russians seem to have been perfectly happy to give Israel a whole 60 minutes of warning ahead of each stage of their activities so far.

NATO on the other hand does not make a habit of giving Israel that kind of information, due to various reasons related to Israel’s bad behaviour in the past, which I’m sure that all Majorityrights readers are aware of.

Kumiko Oumae works in the defence and security sector in the UK. Her opinions here are entirely her own.

Tags: Islam & Islamification, Media, Military Matters, Political analysis, War on Terror, World Affairs

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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:51 | #

Andrew Anglin seems to be confused (perhaps a Mulatto confusion): Since when does one, such as Anglin, who fawns over Hitler and Nazi Germany also fawn over Russia, Putin, his plans and his military?

Anglin posts this article at the Daily Stormer:

IBT, “RAF given green light to shoot down hostile Russian jets in Syria”, Oct 11 2015:

As relations between the West and Russia steadily deteriorate, Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots have been given the go-ahead to shoot down Russian military jets when flying missions over Syria and Iraq, if they are endangered by them. The development comes with warnings that the UK and Russia are now “one step closer” to being at war.

RAF Tornado pilots have been instructed to avoid contact with Russian aircraft while engaged in missions for Operation Shader – the codename for the RAF’s anti-Isis work in Iraq and Syria. But their aircraft have been armed with air-to-air missiles and the pilots have been given the green light to defend themselves if they are threatened by Russian pilots.

“The first thing a British pilot will do is to try to avoid a situation where an air-to-air attack is likely to occur — you avoid an area if there is Russian activity,” an unidentified source from the UK’s Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) told the Sunday Times. “But if a pilot is fired on or believes he is about to be fired on, he can defend himself. We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events.”

[...]

The Albino Anglin comments : “Tornadoes aren’t nearly as advanced as the jets Russia is using.

..The UK shooting down a Russian jet would be met with such a response as I can’t begin to imagine.

How many times does Putin have to make it clear that he isn’t joking?”

Ibid: The RAF Tornados aircraft will be armed with heat-seeking Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missiles (Asraams, also called AIM-132 missiles). These weapons, which cost £200,000 each, can reach triple the speed of sound and have a longer range than other air-to-air missiles, allowing RAF pilots to shoot down enemy aircraft without being targeted themselves.

The Sunday Times’ report quoted a defence source as saying: “Up till now RAF Tornados have been equipped with 500lb satellite-guided bombs — there has been no or little air-to-air threat. But in the last week the situation has changed. We need to respond accordingly.”

“We need to protect our pilots but at the same time,” said another source. “We’re taking a step closer to war. It will only take one plane to be shot down in an air-to-air battle and the whole landscape will change.“

Anglin says, “I don’t see it happening. But that fact that they would even make this claim is in itself pretty insane. There has been no provocation by Russia against any other nation’s aircraft in the region, so coming out and saying this can only be seen as a threat.

Putin has not made any threats like this. But then again, Putin doesn’t make threats.

So who knows. Maybe it will happen.

It it does, it will be the declaration of WWIII over the Jews’ desire to defend their terrorists fighting against an elected leader in a third world country they don’t like.

Think about what you’re doing here, people.

Do you really think your own populations are going to support you in a World War you started to defend moderate terrorists involved in a conflict the average person cannot make any sense of and does not understand?

But I suppose it was the UK who started WWII over some bit of nothing in Poland.”

...was it the UK starting something over some bit of nothing in Poland, Andrew? Did AH really want the help of the three nations between Germany and Russia - viz., Poland, Belarus and Ukraine - whose nationalists were all dead-set against the Soviet Union; or did he plan all along to roll over them, take their lands in total and subjugate their people - along with Russia, up to the Urals?

Anglin must still admire Hitler’s plans since the realization was a failure.

By way of some convoluted reasoning he also admires Russian military plans and might - perhaps this fashback will cheer him up - but how is that might and planning supposed to correspond with his Hitler adoration?

Anglin’s reverent icon..

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:00 | #

Andrew Anglin has now changed his story to point out that the whole story is not even happening, because the Russians read the Times and the rest of the British press this morning, saw the story being parroted everywhere, asked the UK’s defence attaché in Moscow about the story, and the Ministry of Defence says that the story is not true.

This is not all that surprising, given that the story he latched on to was from a single ‘unnamed source at PJHQ’, whose division is not even mentioned. For all anyone knows, the source may have literally been someone from J9 (media operations) making a joke or something over morning coffee, and the Times reporters and the rest of the British press somehow took it seriously. This is why people shouldn’t just jump on a sexy-sounding story without actually checking to see if it’s true. It wouldn’t have been difficult for the press to have simply asked the Ministry of Defence if the story was true before actually publishing it, and it shouldn’t have been hard for the Daily Stormer to realise that the story sounded so ridiculous that it could not possibly have been true.

It was swiftly corrected, and I think that it shows how being ‘too fast’ can be really detrimental to accuracy, and it really shows how Anglin’s pro-Russian bias makes him jump on even the most trollish of stories. Any story that makes Russia look like the victim of an irrational or hyper-paranoid UK, will be a story that he’ll parrot immediately. Of course, what happened is that it didn’t happen, and then he has to retract it.

Furthermore, the cognitive dissonance between Anglin drumming up sympathy for Russia over this non-existent air-to-air missile story while simultaneously invoking Britain’s past agreement with Poland in the lead-up to the Second World War, is clear to see. It’s a dissonance which is appearing because he’s inducing transference:

Wikipedia, ‘Transference’:

Transference is a phenomenon characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings from one person to another. One definition of transference is “the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person’s childhood”.[1] Another definition is “the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object”.[2]

What seems to be happening is that Andrew Anglin’s—or perhaps it should be called the editorial line of the Daily Stormer as a whole since his other contributors like William Martel hold the same line too—approach is to try to take the sympathies that he thinks that WNs would have allocated to Germany in the Second World War, and carry out a transference from there onto the personage of Vladimir Putin and the Russian government.

The fact that it doesn’t make sense when you think about it historically (because Germany and Russia were existential enemies), is only more of an indication that there’s something wrong there.

It ends up looking really strange because the Russian government’s patriotism is ‘anti-Nazism’ and ‘anti-racism’, because for them it is existential. So the Daily Stormer is making WNs do transference to a group that is more hostile to them than any other.

Whether they are aware of it or not, the net result is that the Daily Stormer is repeatedly making itself into a component of the Russian media operations and psychological operations in general, because the kind of narratives they create seem to encourage people to think and behave in ways that are conducive to Russia’s interests.

Everyone should read this for a quick refresher on the problem:

[PDF: The Russian Connection]

It’s pretty clear that Russia is in this for the purpose of trying to regain the influence in the post-Soviet space that it lost since 1991, and that the feelers it is putting out to far-right parties in Europe is only done for the purpose of facilitating Russia’s strategic objectives.

The Daily Stormer is problematic enough in its platform already. Perhaps the Daily Stormer will adjust its editorial position and stop assisting Russia, since everyone can be forgiven for making mistakes, but people shouldn’t make those mistakes too often or it begins to really look like it’s on purpose.

Posted by O*R*I*O*N on Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:13 | #

Two things:

1. The physiognomy of the arab in the McCain photo actually does look like that of al-Baghdadi.

2. Anglin and his c.i. priesthood are indeed immune to reason and logic from my experience.

Occasionally they did strike a solid argumentation such as in an article about jewish parasitism by sven longshanks a while back.
I do not frequent the site anymore, however.

The main problem (among many) is their apologetic approach to the toxic and foreign slave-religion of christianity.

Long term, christlings will lose everything because they subscribe to a loser-religion. This rule applies to all aspects of human endeavor. History as well as contemporary geopolitics proves this to be true.

If a christian succeeds in anything it will always be in spite of the direct commands and advice given by his imaginary jewish savior.

C.i. is a psychotic worldview in that it purports to be christian while simultaneously claiming that the israelites of the old testament were somehow really Aryans.

That would make their much celebrated savior, the circumcised “christ” of the new testament decidedly anti-Aryan according to the very biblical verses they love to quote themselves, such as the one about jews supposedly being the “sons of the devil” or whatever.

They also routinely spit upon the ancient cultural roots of the White race by piously proclaiming that germanics and other ancient Aryan peoples were supposedly “primitive barbarians” before everyone’s favorite semitic religion came along from judea and magically “saved”/“civilized” everybody. A disrespectful and historically facile attitude toward one’s own racial origins to say the least.

But none of such cognitive dissonance seems to matter much to them because the bible is always conveniently “mistranslated” anyhow. This renders it basically open to any imaginable interpretation anyone may wish to entertain.—Which it really is, paradoxically.

These as well as countless other logical short circuits in their “thinking” have been presented to Anglin et al for years. By myself and by many others. Nevertheless, the clerics around saint Anglin the mongolophile apparently insist on maintaining their dogmatic adherence to a racially egalitarian religion originating in the middle east, no matter what.

Such abysmal irrationality is intolerable.

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:17 | #

O*R*I*O*N on Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:13:
The physiognomy of the arab in the McCain photo actually does look like that of al-Baghdadi.

There are some vague resemblances, yes, so I can see why they’d have latched onto that man. But I think that’s only because they are both Arab men of about the same height. build, and weight. It’s the jawline, and chin, and the shape of their ears, as well as the shape of the nose that set them both apart from each other.

Also, at that time that McCain met with those rebels, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was likely somewhere in Iraq growing a giant beard, which would of course be the other obvious thing that sets them apart.

Yes, though, you are right to say that there is some general resemblance at first glance. For me to say that they ‘look nothing alike’, was a bit of an overstatement by me.

O*R*I*O*N on Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:13:
Anglin and his c.i. priesthood are indeed immune to reason and logic from my experience. [...] C.i. is a psychotic worldview in that it purports to be christian while simultaneously claiming that the israelites of the old testament were somehow really Aryans.

I can imagine, it must be pretty terrifying. Christian Identity is literally like something that is so absurd that it almost beggars belief. If you have in-depth experience grappling with these people, we could definitely gain from hearing about that experience, so that other ethno-nationalists can be equipped to fend that harmful tendency off.

If you’d ever like to appear on Majorityrights Radio, just send an email to Guessedworker using the email listed on the contact page and we might be able to arrange to get you on the show if you’d like to get your criticisms and your story out there.

As in all such cases, we’ll protect your privacy to the utmost.

There’s no pressure, but if you are willing or able to speak out, then the invitation is there for you to seize on at your convenience.

Posted by O*R*I*O*N on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 04:44 | #

@Kumiko Oumae

I certainly appreciate that others find c.i. as absurd as I do.

Unfortunately, as you will surely know, the cranial infection known as christinsanity has nevertheless corrupted millions upon millions of our racial brothers and sisters throughout History, and even today left the majority of them in a pitiful state of physical helplessness and spiritual servitude.

To argue with them is pointless. I consider them dead and prefer to invest my energy in positive racial propaganda.

I take the long term historical position of R.P. Oliver and expect the bastard religion to die out of natural causes within the next thousand years.

Granted, occasionally I simply cannot resist ridiculing the involuntarily humorous insanity of the fascinatingly syncretistic christling creed, but ... it is really just a waste of time, no?—to deal with anyone who willfully accepts the suicidal teachings of jesus as part of his core belief system.

Concerning the suggestion of radio participation: thanks for the offer. I will consider it.

Btw, why does your name appear to be Japanese?

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:17 | #

O*R*I*O*N on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 04:44:
I take the long term historical position of R.P. Oliver and expect the bastard religion to die out of natural causes within the next thousand years.

Well, those ‘natural causes’ certainly would involve deliberately opposing its doctrines and precepts whenever possible, right? If no one ever opposed it, its followers might just keep finding news ways to adapt it to new circumstances, and then it might survive.

It’s not a waste of time to tackle Christianity head-on, since if it can gain a foothold then it can be extremely corrosive to a movement. Its ability to wend its way into places where it isn’t wanted, should not be underestimated.

O*R*I*O*N on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 04:44:
Concerning the suggestion of radio participation: thanks for the offer. I will consider it.

No problem.

O*R*I*O*N on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 04:44:
Btw, why does your name appear to be Japanese?

Because it is.

If you look back through the archives to my first post called “You have spread your dreams under their feet”, that is explained. But also my more recent post on the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the comments I made in comments section of that post may answer a lot of your questions on that as well.

Basically, it’s in the interest of Asian peoples to not oppose the basic existence of European peoples. There are a lot of shared interests between us, and also, we share almost all the same enemies.

Posted by al-Baghdadi's death almost "100% certain" on Sat, 24 Jun 2017 04:44 | #

On 16 June 2017, Russian media reported that al-Baghdadi might have been killed in a Russian air strike near Raqqa, Syria on May 28.[155][156] The United States cast doubt on the claim, noting a lack of independent evidence. [157] On 23 June 2017, Russian politician Viktor Ozerov stated that al-Baghdadi’s death was almost “100% certain”.[158]

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