Posted by DanielS on Fri, 09 Oct 2015 06:28 | #

“Russians in general”

It may be on safer grounds of fact and persuasion to have phrased that instead:

..“and Russians as a pattern as a result of the direction of their elite and circumstances.”

That is to ask, does “anti-racism” stem from the fiber of Russians? or does this document represent the strategic interests of their elite policy makers - and, WN would ask quite reasonably, does it reflect Jewish power and influence - the entangling of their geopolitical strategy/circumstances with Russia/ns?

What, if any, influence of Jews is behind the drafting and proposal of that document?

Of the Russian populace, how much intermarriage is there with Jews to add liberal assent to anti-racism/ anti-anti-semitism?

In non-genetic terms, but terms of establishing social rules and their influence, the example of the United States alone shows that it does not take numerically many Jews in power and in the populace to make a “Jew-thinking” elite leading a “Jew-thinking” population.

The average American football fan, let alone Christian Zionist, is now so brainwashed (by the small percentage of Jews that have existed in America) as to be susceptible to signing onto such an anti-racist document.

It would not take the most skilled demagogue to get racial-nationalists to hate these people on the whole - especially the fat White sports fans. But is it really right in terms of what is practical and in terms of who is responsible for the direction of the country?

Unfortunately, almost the same level of foolishness is evident among the populations of the European nations.

It is rather like saying that the people of The US, Germany, Britain, France, Sweden, Italy, Poland etc are all a bunch of anti-racist Jews, and are so from their very genetics.. rather than suspecting the likely causes (and more practical implication to target specific causes), which is that their historical proclivities and circumstances in combination with having been misled by Jews, and to some extent interbred with them, has created this typical mindset.

Are Asian and European interests so irreconcilable with Russia’s that we ought to broad-brush the entire population?

Is it not more practical to try to connect with those elements among the Russian populace who might be willing to negotiate a more fair ethno-nationalist arrangement within regional and global spheres?

I believe that the ethno-nationalist and regional goals of Asia, Europe and the US are achievable without vilifying the entire Russian population by including them as a perfect match and overlap with Jewish interests; or even a perfect match to the imperialist aggrandizement of the worst of their Russian own.

Much of the problem with American White Nationalist mis-understanding of Russia has to do with how in-the-dark Americans have been kept by their YKW media - especially, during the cold war, most Americans had only scant and stereotypical information about Russia and other nations behind the iron curtain.

Now that they can see that all of the negative things they came to believe weren’t true (all Russian women are not bearded weight-lifters), they are more inclined than ever to disbelieve “negative propaganda” about Russia because of all the lies that the YKW media has told them and all the truth covered-up, while their country and its White make-up is destroyed.

WN recognize Jews as largely responsible for that. They see Russia as a largely White nation - not perfect, but a possible White refuge.

Nevertheless, while Jewish interests are throwing The US and Europe under the bus, there may be something to the hypothesis that they would do their best to keep them in the dark while seeking to re-establish a key seat of their power in Russia; with a compliant White population there.

If they could do it in such powerful nations as the US and those in Europe, why couldn’t they do it again in Russia as they had in the past through the communist take-over?

If necessary, they would use their crypsis to say that they are not like the “Judaic” Jews (just as the communist Jews said they were not like the Zionist Jews) and they would try to lead people to believe that they represent Russian interests per-se.

Thus, they would not want Americans, let alone White Nationalists, to fully appreciate what they are up-to there in Russia.

I believe that geopolitical terms of the silk road and Asian concerns in Russian Asia can be worked-out.

WN can play a role, perhaps minor: if they want to pursue Russian wives, see Moscovy retained as a White haven, or to seek safe-havens further east for PLE’s there, and if they really want the situation to be on solid ground all around, they need and should try to work-it-out with Asian interest as well, and not only take a naively positive view of Russia’s political claims.

Posted by DanielS on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:10 | #

The United States doesn’t need another anti-racist instrument, they already have the 1964 “Civil Rights” Act.

                               
Johnson, signing away Whites capacity to associate and deal with whom they like..

                                       
....MLK and Malcolm X share their mutual satisfaction regarding the Act and its veritable enslavement of Whites

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:47 | #

My point still stands, which is that this behaviour is part of Russia’s national identity because that is what their ‘Great Patriotic War’ was about, and it forms part of their national survival narrative. As a result, engaging with Russians is mostly useless. Their entire national identity in the modern era rests atop the narrative of ‘fighting against racism’ so as to avoid being exterminated.

The same cannot be said of America. America will never be as impenetrable as Russia is, because America’s legacy is completely different.

All the tip-toeing and coddling of Russia that goes on in the European nationalist movement now is just a complete waste of time in my view, because it will never deliver any results, ever. The amount of effort that it would take to ‘show’ them what you would like to show them, is simply not worth it because they are not listening anyway. It also makes no historical sense because Russia has never been your ally anyway.

Posted by DanielS on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:21 | #

The same cannot be said of America. America will never be as impenetrable as Russia is, because America’s legacy is completely different.

A similarly intransigent anti-racism is inherent in America indeed: its Constitution is based on civil individual rights, which are set in contradistinction to group discrimination - a race is a group. The Cartesian fallacy of John Locke’s individual Civil Rights, which separate the individual mind from group interaction, is a fallacy of the enlightenment that Jewish interests seized upon to exaggerate beyond reason and to weaponize in the 1964 Civil Rights Act - which is anti-classification taken to its logical extreme (and a reversal of it, in practice, to a “racism” against White men only).

But at its root, pitting individual over group classification - which racial classification is, by definition - is an American predicament as the country was founded in rebellion against British Aristocratic classificatory rule - “group classification was held as an empirical fiction” with the enlightenment notion of individual rights, by contrast, as the only true empirical warrant and means of justice, the very basis of what it means to be American: “I want my rights!” means that Cartesian individual rights have precedence against any discrimination in protection of any circumspect realization of group, biological systemic completion - including profound, inter-generational, historico-racial patterns, however precious they might be.

....the narrow purview of the individual rights of a semi-conscious, semi-knowledgeable and semi-legally aware person, has prerogative over the social capital of time immemorial patterns, however precious they might be.

Posted by Ryan on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:09 | #

“Their entire national identity in the modern era rests atop the narrative of ‘fighting against racism’ so as to avoid being exterminated.”

Yep, to add to that the modern liberal order justifies it’s actions through ‘negative legitimacy’ of opposing fascism and racism, whatever the consequences.

In the above case we have legitimacy as we seek to conserve our socieities natural hereidatry origins. However, as per the way power is in the world we do not have legality, as per the various laws and policies domestically and internationally.

Listening to Tom Sunic’s old podcasts he speaks a lot about how in old Yugoslavia anti-fascism was effectively a state religion. Communism and Liberalism are similar in that they both base their legitimacy on anti-fascism and anti-racism. Hence they require a constant ‘threat’ of fascism or racism to justify their world outlook, policies and failures.

This negative identity has unfortunately been embraced by post war conservatives.

Yugoslavia would blame non existent fascists as reason behind failings in Yugoslavia. Liberal multiculturalists will blame racists for the social problems caused by immigration.