Elitists need to hear criticism and to be told of bad news.

Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 02 February 2020 05:02.

Should take his own advice.

Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 258
A Conversation with Laura Towler

Laura, a solid English ethnonationalist

If you insert the word “international” for them, before the term “left”, you do them the favor of undoing their unwitting complicity with Jewish interests; though in Greg’s case, he perhaps cannot help it, as doubling down saves him from the criticism and bad news that he claims his elitism should hear.

Otherwise, some good thoughts in that conversation.

Meanwhile, “I am not an ethnonationalist” - Richard Spencer
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Criticisms of Johson’s elitism, for example:

In his conversation with Morgoth just prior to this one with Laura, he calls the Scottish Nationalist Party the “perfect example of left nationalism.”

Is it really so hard for you to do something like put the word international before the term left?, Greg, or do you insist upon an oxymoron like internationalizing nationalism, which is what you are talking about with The SNP?

Also in this discussion, he wants to contrast aesthetics to counter the avarice of sheer mercantile utilitarianism.

I endorse the essence of the project he’s after, that is, countering radical liberalizing effects of mercantile hegemony…

But the concept of usefulness is not the opposite of the importance of aesthetics. Aesthetics play important, useful functions for people.

And paying attention to what is useful is an under utilized, liberating suggestion in service of orienting the popular understanding and deployment of philosophy. Hence, Greg’s superficial suggestion of aesthetics over utilitarianism just to play opposite day with me is a bum steer.

I guess that snooty right wing elitism is a comfy perch for Greg.

Related at Majorityrights:

Elitism, secrecy, deception … the way to save white America?

In his recent talk with Richard Houck, he discusses an (important) idea that I have discussed for years - including emphasizing its significance in the White Post Modernity (((red caped))) post - that immigration can be treated like a force of nature in the language of our enemies, whereas we do have agency in its regard, and can reverse it. He’s mentioned this before and may have gotten it from me without a hat tip, and maybe it isn’t necessary - it is, after all, a logical inference that he could have made; but it wouldn’t be the first time; again, there was the handing off of the retooled Maslow to Andy Nowicky, less likely to have been a coincidental inference, as I was rather in your face with the idea of re-tooled Maslow at VOR (where Greg published as well), prior to his publishing Andy’s go at the idea.

Also in his talk with Houck, he was apparently defending objectivity against my encouragement of centralizing our relative group interests enough to manage the group and accountability thereof. But Greg says:

Greg (58:20): “Real value is objective, and by objective I mean (subjectively lol) shared by many (relative lol) people.

Add these to the list of Greg’s Gems:

“Hitler was a great statesman.” - lol

On the thread of Dr. Christian Lindtner’s interview:

Posted by Greg Johnson on Sun, 22 Mar 2015 12:39 | #

Graham, I disagree regarding National Socialism and Fascism. They did not fail. They were destroyed by the Allies and international Jewry, who were threatened by them because they showed signs of being fantastic successes.

Hitler was not solely or even largely responsible for World War II. The British and the French started WWII. Hitler started a war with Poland, over German territories held captive by Poland. He started the war after exhausting negotiations for a diplomatic solution.

We now know that the Poles would not made a deal because they believed false promises made by the British to protect Polish territorial integrity.

The bad faith of the British is proved by the fact that they declared war on Germany for invading Poland but not on the USSR, which also invaded Poland. Obviously, Polish territorial integrity did not matter. What mattered was a pretext for war, which the British manufactured merely by throwing Poland into a two front war that caused unimaginable suffering.

In short, Hitler may have started a war with Poland, but the British made sure he had no other choice.

Hitler attacked the USSR, a regime that should have been exterminated on principle by all European powers, just in time to save all of Europe from a massive Soviet invasion. Yes, Hitler had evil colonial intentions toward the Ukrainians and the Russians. But it is a lie of Allied propaganda that he planned to exterminate 30 million Slavs.

On balance, I think that Hitler was the greatest statesman of the 20th century, and a genuine “Great Man” of history. Those who are interested in exploring this further should read my review of Russell Stolfi’s Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/05/r-h-s-stolfis-hitler-beyond-evil-and-tyranny-part-1/

Sorry to hurt your feelings Greggy, but you are making a LOT of mistaken assumptions in your endorsement of “the great statesman.’

I discuss some of Greg’s other antics here.

“West Coast White Nationalism”

Jamming with Greggy

Greg’s image for “eco-fascism”

Greg ought to stop playing opposite day with me; it only to reveals his uptight, philosophical doldrums. E.g., he hasn’t grasped social constructionism and hermeneutics, nor the significance of these ideas (and he tried to say that I “failed to see the irony’ when I called him (and J.F. Gariepy) out on that.

Greg banned me from Counter-Currents when I questioned whether Mark Dyal was a trustworthy advocate of Whites.

Is that placing elitism over a friendly suggestion or what? The octaroon Dyal has pedigrees, sure, and reads like a Fed if there ever was one.

Elitists like Greg can be blind to infiltrators and misdirection if their inorganic motives fit the snob criteria better than true White Nationalists without the elitist cred. There are other examples besides Dyal.