Poland is correct to denounce Richard Spencer

Posted by DanielS on Monday, 30 October 2017 01:00.

Poland is correct to denounce Richard Spencer in his neo-Molotov-Ribbentrop larp.

While the Polish government is not perfectly articulate of its reasons to denounce Richard Spencer for his advocacy of a counter productive world view, they are not far off the mark and not wrong to reject him either.

Typical of American right wingers, Spencer is nursing a neo-Germanophilic world view, overly sympathetic to the German imperialism of the world wars (and antagonistic to Great Britain’s ‘interference’), with a new twist that would larp and valence a re-empowered German / Russian axis -  i.e., a newly got up Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement for an “imperium”, i.e., imperialism that would run rough shod over the interests of many necessary allies - Hungary rejected him for the same reason Poland rejects him for the same reason Britain rejected him for the same reason Japan would reject him (for the same reason all of Asia would reject him for the same reason Zionism embraces him, for the quid pro quo reasoning that comprador wielding right wing enterprises embrace him) etc. - while his larped empire (Lisbon to Vladivastok) would be governed by whom? Apparently he would depend heavily on working with Jewish interests to facilitate (maneuver) his Russo-Germanic grand civic Euro larp, in Duginesque delusion of grandeur - a delusion coddled by ((())).

News Week, “Richard Spencer Is Too Racist for Poland’s Right-Wing Government”, 27 Oct 2017:

Poland’s right-wing government doesn’t want white supremacist Richard Spencer to visit the Eastern European country, calling him a “threat” to democracy.

Spencer was scheduled to speak at a conference organized by Poland’s far right to celebrate Polish Independence Day on November 11, but the country’s Foreign Ministry condemned the alt-right leader, whose condemnation of diversity has found support among neo-Nazis, whose ideological predecessors invaded Poland and killed millions during World War II.

“As a country which was one of the biggest victims of Nazism, we believe that the ideas promoted by Mr. Spencer and his followers could pose a threat to all those who hold dear the values of human rights and democracy,” the Polish Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that Spencer’s views are in conflict with Poland’s legal order.

Poland is not beyond criticism in its brand and particular expressions of nationalism, but Richard Spencer is highly dubious in his imperial larp; and the Poles are correct to denounce Spencer and like apologists for the imperialist aspirations of Nazi Germany and the casualties it left in the wake of its aspired imperialism, relevantly in this case, the Poland that came back not as “a gift of Woodrow Wilson”, but through the endurance and perseverance of Polish nationalism through 123 years in exile during the tri-partition; and then again through 50 years in exile during the Nazi and Soviet regimes.



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Posted by Spencer's straw man on Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:42 | #

“Polish nationalism can’t do it alone.”

Nobody is saying that it can. To begin with, there is the intermarium (a.k.a. visigrad) and after that, hopefully accord with other burgeoning ethnonationalisms.

In a November 11 Alt Right panel discussion, Richard Spencer continues to straw man Polish nationalism as “believing that they can do it all alone. While it is true that they are vulnerable to neoliberal and ZOG influences from within and without, it is not true that they should just give way to his Germano-Russian larp: His major straw man, which he sees as his trump card, is that Polish nationalism is not going to save the White race by itself.

That is a straw man, because nobody with any sense is saying that Poland or any other nation can do it by itself.

What Poland can do is maintain its own ethnonationalism to some extent and provide a base example to kindle and cultivate ethnonational coordination:

There is evidence of this in the independence day march, with slogans and chanting of:

60,000 join nationalist march carrying racist banners and chanting for ‘White Europe.’

An estimated 60,000 people turned out in Warsaw for the march, with many chanting ‘clean blood’, ‘pure Poland’ and ‘White Poland’ and carrying posters with the words: ‘White Europe of brotherly nations ...chanting anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish slogans

This general perspective of Polish nationalism is correct, but nobody is saying, or should be saying, that Polish nationalism can do this alone. Some “fraternity of White ethnonations” as they proffer, is necessary.

The panel is correct in its observation that the Polish government is in some conflict with these positions, for some direct Jewish influence, indirectly through Christianity, and the ZOG element of America; which they’ve depended upon to help defend them against Russia and Germany. Thus, from America and NATO’s perspective, there is a condescending tolerance of Polish nationalism (and Jewish interests, the Alt Lite have their aspects of Polish nationalism - anti Muslim - which they might encourage); and finally for the sheer neo liberal business and cultural influences of neo liberal rebellion against communism.

In that rebellion, furthermore, it is correct, I’m sorry to say, [as one panel member suggests] that the Poles are susceptible to be naive in regard to Western liberalism, neo liberalism, the materialism of the West, which we, who’ve lived it, are more immune to, knowing that it, by itself, is our death; it has hardened those of us who lived through it and caused us to develop immunity.

By the same token, Richard Spencer and American White Nationalists are naive about Russia.

He scarcely mentions any detriment to their imperialist, right wing and Jewish elements, strictly does their anti-NATO bidding, ignores the idea of “a fraternity of White (i.e., ethno) nations” - takes the old German imperialist bullshit lines against Polish nationalism (as if Poland has nothing to defend itself against from the east and west, now as then) and against the Intermarium - in favor of a Germano / Russian imperialism; a larp idea coming from a Putin/Dugin bracketed perspective.

—- DanielS



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