Donald Trump gives Benjamin Netanyahu everything he wants.

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:50.

Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump at a joint press conference.

Joint press conference

In a move that surprised no one other than the denizens of the American Alt-Right, Donald Trump has just handed Benjamin Netanyahu a collection of the largest diplomatic prizes that any Prime Minister of Israel could ever hope to attain.

Donald Trump highlighted the prospects for a “great peace deal” in the Middle East while at a joint press conference, as both Israel and the United States are signalling a change in the relationship compared to that of the preceding US administration. Whereas previously relations were fraught with issues on which the two countries did not see eye to eye, Donald Trump is reorienting the United States toward a stance where there will be virtually no daylight between the two countries.

Handing over the keys

Donald Trump simply walked into the room and began systematically undoing four decades of US diplomacy, with a completely casual air of confidence.

Speaking cordially alongside Netanyahu, Trump announced that he does not actually care whether the ‘solution’ to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict should be centred around negotiations of a two-state solution, or whether it should be some other kind of solution, nor was he concerned about the structural content of the solution.

“I’m looking at two-state and one-state and I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like,” Trump said.

In a single sentence, Donald Trump had just given Israel the green light to proceed ahead on course with its plan for ‘Greater Israel’.

Some may ask how that conclusion could be derived from the statement.

It’s easy, Gaza and the West Bank have no real leverage at a negotiating table with Israel, other than that which other countries wield on its behalf. Israel is the occupying power which holds de facto control over 100% of Palestinian natural resources and all the investment banks. Additionally, the system of checkpoints used by Israel have the net economic effect of dis-integrating the Palestinian economy to the point that greater than 40% of Palestinian GDP is wasted on dealing with the effects of the security infrastructure which is in place.

Therefore, when Donald Trump says that he is going to ‘be happy’ with whatever deal the Israelis and Palestinians reach between themselves, he is essentially saying that the United States will no longer utilise its power to cajole or corral Israel into actually having to sit at the table with the Palestinian Authority in any substantive way.

Starting the engine

Trump seemed to forget that Palestine even needed to be part of the conversation, as Israelis and their concerns remained firmly centred throughout the joint press conference. Trump touched on all the issues that were strategically important to Israel, the issue of Iran, anti-Zionist messaging in the Palestinian school system, and the Israeli desire to get Palestinians to acknowledge and recognise Israel as a ‘legitimate Jewish state’.

The United States also stopped being part of the conversation, effectively. Having cleared the United States of any actual obligation to do anything, and having alleviated the United States of having any part in the process, Trump was essentially indicating that the role of the United States would now be reduced to that of letting whatever happens, happen.

Driving away after a small caution

As Trump continued to basically give Israel everything it wanted, Benjamin Netanyahu began actually physically vibrating with pleasure at what he was hearing. The United States would no longer even play the limited role that it had been playing as a supposed peace-broker anymore. That responsibility has now passed into the hands of Netanyahu.

Much has been made in some quarters of the fact that Trump chose to say to Netanyahu, “I’d like to see you pull back on settlements for a little bit.”

Netanyahu absolutely did not care about being told that. Minutes later, Netanyahu dismissed the caution entirely by saying that settlements are “not the core of the conflict”, and that they would talk to each other more about it so as not to keep “bumping into each other.” He then made no commitment to halt the construction of settlements.

So Netanyahu accepted what was basically a small caution for him to hold back on building settlements for a little while, presumably because it was starting to look too brazen in the news cycle, a caution which he is free to ignore if he likes. In exchange he got Donald Trump to drag forty years of US diplomacy into the recycle bin.

‘Compromise’

During the joint press conference, Trump said that there would need to be “compromise from both sides.” There was no mention of precisely what that ‘compromise’ would look like, but I think that we just saw what it looks like. We saw it on live international television.

Basically, Netanyahu will agree to let Trump gently needle him on his state’s violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, and in exchange, Netanyahu will continue to violate that very same convention while shaping the circumstances under which Israeli-Palestinian ‘peace negotiations’ will take place. The United States will simply let that happen. The United States will also at the same time completely adopt the foreign policy preferences of Israel with regards to Iran, and help Israeli commanders to achieve their objectives absolutely for free.

That’s the ‘compromise’.

It’s unprecedented, because prior to this moment no American president – not even Ronald Reagan – had budged on the basic commitment to the two-state solution, nor had any US president prior to Donald Trump entered into a dialogue with Israel in which the opening salvo of the diplomatic exchange was to constrain America’s role to that of a mere cheerleader on the sidelines. Donald Trump reversed both of those things in less than half an hour.

‘Strategic Cucking’

Over at the Daily Stormer, Andrew Anglin non-ironically and non-sarcastically described the aforementioned ‘compromise’ in which Netanyahu gets 100% of what he wants, this way:

Daily Stormer / Andrew Anglin, ‘Trump Prods Bibi on Palestine Settlements’, 15 Feb 2017:

[...]

Very minimal cucking there.

And the cucking there was was strategic cucking.

[...]

Seriously. What the fuck.

What the actual fuck.

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Comments:

Posted by DanielS on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:35 | #

Mirror mirror on the wall, who is biggest cuck of all: (((The Alt Right)))

..a little refresher on Israel’s hypocrisy is appropriate at this point:

Israel’s Hypocrisy: strict determination to maintain its EGI while opposing that of others

Israel’s Holocaust Memorial Located at Deir Yassin, Zionist Massacre Site

Israel’s Modus Operandi: Blackmail, Bribery, and Bullying

Though ill-advising the following of a “true” Christianity, Charles Carlson nevertheless well articulates the deception and the disaster of America’s evangelical Christian support for Israel.

In this interview for example:

The Sunic Journal: Interview with Charles Carlson

January 31, 2012

Charles Carlson

Tom Sunic interviews Charles Carlson. Topics include:

Charles’s experiences while visiting the Gaza Strip;

American Christian Zionist culpability in Israeli aggression against Palestinians;

The origin and defining belief of Christian Zionism, namely that Israel rather than Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy;

Christian Zionism’s relationship with neocons, Zionists, Republicans, and the military-industrial complex;

Christian Zionists’ nearly exclusive support for war against Iran;

The need to reach and educate Christian Zionists.

Charles E. Carlson was a conscript of U.S. Army twice and then a businessman before becoming a Baptist Deacon. With the help of several close friends he organized We Hold These Truths (WHTT) in 1996. Among WHTT’s video titles are Christian Zionism: The Tragedy & The Turning, John Hagee With Benny Hinn: Praying For War, In the Name Of Jesus, and their introductory must-see Cause of Our Conflict.

Finally:

Zeitgeist: “all religion bad/not Abrahamic distinctly nor Judaism especially as its organizing motive”

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:43 | #

Kumiko,

Do you think this will herald a return of the PLO, or some surrogate, to international terror? Or has the historical window for Palestinian terrorism around the world closed?

Posted by pedro on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:11 | #

It’s unprecedented, because prior to this moment no American president – not even Ronald Reagan – had budged on the basic commitment to the two-state solution, nor had any US president prior to Donald Trump entered into a dialogue with Israel in which the opening salvo of the diplomatic exchange was to constrain America’s role to that of a mere cheerleader on the sidelines.

What the hell are you talking about?
Has always been a cheerleader for Israel, throughout its existence israel has committed countless massacres in the Middle East, including reaping the lives of Americans and Britons, practiced espionage against its allies and various other types of absurdities, and the United States did nothing to To stop israel, on the contrary, government after government the Americans gave more and more to the Jewish desires

Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:41 | #

Guessedworker on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:43 wrote:

Do you think this will herald a return of the PLO, or some surrogate, to international terror? Or has the historical window for Palestinian terrorism around the world closed?

I think the window has closed for a PLO, much as it has essentially closed for PFLP and PFLP-GC. Many of the backers out there who would support nominally secular Palestinian movements have been either destroyed by the actions of Israel in the late 1980s, or destroyed inadvertently by the actions of the United States in this era.

Additionally, in terms of the social environment from which Palestinian movements arise, the Palestinians have moved more into Hamas-style territory, just as the Israelis desired, and so a lot of the nationalist movement has dissipated, having been instead channelled into Islamic Jihad. The younger age cohort tends to see ‘Islam’ as their form of identification rather than really ‘Palestine’.

This makes for a huge problem when it comes to even attempting to leverage them as a thorn in the side of Israel, because Islamism is essentially incoherent when it comes to organising complex strategies for reclaiming economic power in a particular territory in the modern world. Instead it will always deliver absurd results.

Israel is for that reason in a position of complete strength, and Donald Trump is only enhancing that strength.

pedro on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:11 wrote:

What the hell are you talking about?

The fact that it was bad before, and now it is worse.

pedro on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:11 wrote:

throughout its existence israel has committed countless massacres in the Middle East, including reaping the lives of Americans and Britons, practiced espionage against its allies and various other types of absurdities,

I’m fully aware of that.

pedro on Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:11 wrote:

the United States did nothing to To stop israel, on the contrary, government after government the Americans gave more and more to the Jewish desires

The United States—particularly the Republican party itself—was not always uniformly pro-Israel. However, a transformative process has been taking place over time, and so now in 2017 it has reached the point where the election of Donald Trump has made it so that Israelis are not merely influencing the decision-making processes in the US from the inside track, but rather, the Israelis are now running US foreign policy directly without there being any competing interests to potentially mitigate it.

The fact that it is the Alt-Right that delivered up this result, also says a lot about the actual effectiveness of that movement. It’s like mixture between tragedy and comedy.

They came in, saw a bad situation, and then chose the path that actually made it even worse than ever.

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Now they’re acknowledging Hillary and her entourage were not anti-Russian, after Bozo the Russo-kiss-ass Zionist was elected.

- DanielS

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My, six years really is a long time in politics, however, it’s looking increasingly likely that Trump will have the chance to reprise his role as the new Cyrus. In the meantime, at least I now know why Owen Jones supports Hamas, or should that be Ham-ass?

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israeli-police-have-evidence-hamas-raped-men-during-october-7-attack-activists-claim-bkpfvgqz

I’m finding it fascinating to witness the shibboleths of the progressive Left crumble in the light of their support of barbaric sadism. Shame they lack the wit to perceive it themselves.