A question to those who know eastern Europe

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 06 May 2016 22:33.

Yesterday the Polish government dissolved the state council responsible for practising anti-racism in the country.

“The council proved to be rather inefficient,” Rafał Bochenek, spokesperson for the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party told reporters in Warsaw, AFP reported. He added that there were “more efficient” bodies that would carry on the work.

It was yet another reminder that the nations of the Slav east do not intend to allow the immigration and ethnic dissolution that the political class has, for nearly seven decades, inflicted on the peoples of the west of the continent, or the Jewish-authored and prescribed engines of culture-war which everywhere materialise alongside it.  The governments and peoples of the east clearly wish to live.

But what sort of governments are they?

Jean Sobieski repulses the Turks
Sobieski sending message of victory to the Pope after the Battle of Vienna, by Jan Matejko, 1880, National Museum, Kraków

Certainly, they would use the word “conservative”, among others, to describe themselves.  But Brezhnev was conservative.  The ayatollahs of Iran are conservative.  It tells us little.  Of course we can see that these governments are not neoliberal and internationalist, just as they are not socialist or radically equalitarian.  But neither are they definitively nationalist (though they plainly do connect to the true interests of the people).

What, then, are they?

The question is apt, because for us in the west these governments are modelling freedom from the liberal-internationalist paradigm.  They are struggling to co-exist within that paradigm for the advantages it offers them (escape from the bear to the east, modernisation, prosperity) while firmly rejecting the proffered ethnic poison pill.  Now, it may be that this balancing act will prove impossible in even the medium term.  But if it does there can be little doubt that the people’s will to life will hold sway (always assuming, of course, that the power politics of the EU, America, and the Jewish elites does not first succeed in sweeping loyal men out of government and replacing them with neoliberal traitors).

Like a lot of people I am immensely taken with the sight of loyal government.  But I fear that there is no philosophical ground beneath the feet … nothing to sustain and guide, nothing to live by beyond loyalty.  I believe in that necessity.  I believe that our people in the West must replace not just the liberal way of politics but the philosophy which generates it.  We cannot develop a new life while we still ground ourselves in the old liberal one.  Can these governments and these peoples in the east really find a way to life and freedom in perpetuity with the political and intellectual tools they have now, whatever those are?



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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 07 May 2016 21:09 | #

By way of continuation ...

What are the parallels between the countries of eastern Europe today and, say, the England of the 1950s and 1960s?  Was the ethnocentrism of the English people so very different as it in Poland and Slovakia, and Hungary today?  The politicians act differently, to an extent.  For example, in the east today there isn’t blind panic at the notion of love of kind and the politics of nationalism as existed in the British Establishment during the Powell era.  But what about the people?

When you think about it, both the Europeans of the east and the west are in a damned mess.  We have both suffered over fifteen hundred years of alien religion, five hundred years of alienating modernity, three hundred and fifty years of liberalism, two hundred and fifty years of urban industrialisation, one hundred and twenty years of the Marxist analysis.  But the east was swallowed by Russia in 1945 but was spared the almost seven decades of pulverising mass non-white immigration that the west suffered.  It was also spared the four decades of application of Critical Theory and the radical left social engineering that followed ... the whole constituting a relentless assault on our life, our love, our very being.

At some point in the early 1980s, I would say, the coup de grace arrived in the form of a definite consensus among Western political, intellectual, and corporate leaders that Olam Ha-ba should be the model for The Globality.  It is this, ultimately, which the east is resisting.  Enough instinctual resistance, enough identity lies among the people.

We, on the other hand, know so little of our own truths, our forefathers could not live in our skin.  Their defence of the life and land and natural interests might have gone under some name other than nationalism, but would have come hot from the blood, no questions asked, no quarter given, no prisoners taken.  Ours, estranged and debilitated as we are, is reduced to a searching reaction.  It can generate anguish and ire.  It cannot generate a new life.  It cannot wash away and replace the old life.  But explaining this is hard but perhaps not impossible, as the following discussion from an old Western Spring thread exemplifies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DN0a65UUww

Shaun
14th September 2014 at 1:57 pm

Look man, I respect the fact that you’ve taken the time to read some real complicated material and I respect the fact that you’re a nationalist; but I haven’t got a clue what you’re going on about.

Guessedworker
15th September 2014 at 10:02 am

OK, so have you seen that Dulux ad on TV, the one set in prohibition America, but where the only colour visible anywhere is grey? Buildings, skies, objects, cars, animals and vegetation, clothes, the human body … everything is grey. In such a world, the very life you lead is grey. Love is grey. The song is the song of grey. The politics is the politics of grey. Even people’s thoughts and feelings are grey. There is absolutely nothing that is not grey.

It’s an extreme picture, of course. But just bear with me.

Let’s suppose that a small number of people in the metropolis realise they are missing something. They feel it in their grey bones. They don’t know what it is, exactly, but there’s a guy giving speeches about it – let’s call him Jonathan, or maybe Enoch if you don’t like Jonathan.

So one day you turn up at some out-of-the-way, very grey venue to hear Jonathan, or Enoch, speak. Let’s say you fall into conversation with a guy called Max, and you discover that he feels exactly as you do. Encouraged, the two of you take your grey seats as Jonathan, or Enoch, mounts the grey podium. He tells his grey audience, with not-at-all-grey words of quite unexpected, indeed, stunning clarity and vividness, that the world is not meant to be a dull, drab, featureless, unending grey, that something is very wrong indeed. Your natural instincts … the workings of your retinas, the very architecture of your brains tell you this, he says. Trust them, he says. He talks about the philosophy of grey and its universalising, massifying, homogenising power. He says it is the real source of all the greyness about you. He is quite the revolutionary. He says you must dissent from greyness in every way. Grey must be torn down. The advocates of grey who sit in political office must be thrown out on their grey backsides. The apostles of grey who hold the academic seats must be swept aside. The grey media, the grey Establishment, grey business interests … everything must be changed. A tidal wave of not-grey – the colour of the people, he says – must wash over everything, and return it all to its true appearance. A new age, a new world must begin.

Very fired up, in a grey sort of way, you and Max leave the meeting place and vow not just to keep in touch, but to work together for however long it takes to make this great revolution happen. You set up grey websites and attract some very committed but still grey acolytes to your cause. Protests against grey are held. A political party for not-greyness is initiated. Books on not-greyness are written.

And so forth.

But the world remains stubbornly, depressingly grey. Finally, when everything else has failed, Max has the idea of setting up small communities of grey people dedicated to not-greyness. “If”, he argues, “we can just make a start with the genuine colour of the people on a micro-scale … if we can just get started somewhere … we can progress to building real, fully-functioning not-grey communities, not-grey economies, a real not-grey alternative. In time, greyness can be defeated everywhere.”

You like this idea very much, and tell everybody you meet that this has to be the way forward. But then one day someone comes along and says something you know nothing about and don’t want to hear. It’s a semi-technical term, a condition of the mind – colour-blindness. This guy isn’t talking about something wholly permanent – a condition of the brain like achromatopsia. He is talking about something that has a mutually formative relationship with the grey world all about us. He introduces you to the slippery and unfamiliar idea that grey in the world is the parent of grey in the mind, but grey in the mind is also the parent of grey in the world. This inter-dependence is the secret of grey’s universality and longevity, he says. We don’t just live in a world of grey. We are it. All of us. And, ordinarily, we have no control over this. We cannot will it to change. Greyness in the outside world cannot be overpowered by anti-grey activism alone. Grey is too psychological, too subtle to be amenable to such a crude, externalist approach. To break the cycle of grey, the unwelcome guy says, we have to disable its formative power by rediscovering colour inside us; and that is a much deeper and more intractable and complex problem than Jonathan (or Enoch) or you or Max have appreciated, or are willing to appreciate.

And that’s where we are in this discussion right now.

Hope that helps.

Shaun
15th September 2014 at 2:31 pm

I sort of … understand! Natonalists need to have some sort of inner fire, some inner message. What about Odinism? What about the 14 words? What about good old fashioned team building? What about nationalist symbolism?

If you can offer the movement some practical ideas to get ”rid of the greyness”, everyone would like to hear it. Thanks for your input. It all helps.


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Posted by Doug on Sat, 07 May 2016 23:51 | #

You don’t know what it means to be White British because you don’t know what it means to be White British. There’s no point looking elsewhere for this meaning. No point describing it in terms of something else. You either know it or you don’t.


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 08 May 2016 00:20 | #

Doug, I removed the bit of vitriol at the beginning of your statement as you can make your argument without it - we’re all doing our best and want the best for our folks - thank you.


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Posted by anon on Sun, 08 May 2016 06:20 | #

I don’t know about the East but I think a lot of the problem in the West is WWI and WWII, especially WWI. The most “game” young men and boys volunteered early and were killed en masse before they had a chance to reproduce.

It’s not so much the percentage killed as the very high percentage of the most hot-blooded.

People in Western Europe are stuck because their democracy has been taken away but they no longer have a big enough percentage willing to physically take it back.

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The governments and peoples of the east clearly wish to live. But what sort of governments are they?

I don’t think they have the instinctive sense of self you prescribe so in lieu of that what seems most likely to me is a process of reacting against what they’re not so:

national capitalism combined with a large dose of the crusader version of traditional religion.

 


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 08 May 2016 11:31 | #

I would say that sounds accurate. Thank you for the sound comments, anon.

Never one to be able to suspend disbelief in standard politics, I am not deeply enmeshed enough in its goings on to provide detail, not even for mainstream Polish politics.

However, from the broad, meta-political and sociological view that I prefer, the whisperings are that Jarosław Kaczyński, twin brother of Polish President Lech Kaczyński who died in the plane crash, is a rather singular, clandestine power behind the PiS government of President Andrzej Duda and Prime Minister Ewa Kopacz.

While Kaczyński is a patriot no doubt, apparently concerned to maintain Poland’s people and land, he does patriotism from a very Catholic framework and a perspective born in anti-communism, thus with the confused and attendant overcompensating rationale that you might expect of the contradiction between nationalism, Christianity and anti-communism.

Kaczyński was the architect of the coalition with the left wing populist Self-Defense of the Republic of Poland (Polish: Samoobrona) and the conservative Christian League of Polish Families party

Despite the pain and harm this government may cause with their attempts to change laws to suit Kaczyński’s version of patriotism, it is not the worst case scenario in that it can buy some time - at least he is refusing the immigration and not willing to merely sell Poland. It is also good that he is a nationalist, thus not only resistant to the Russian Federation but also to Merkel’s Germany and the Schulz EU.

And Polish Catholicism is a bit specific in a good way for EGI in that it has retained its anti-Semitism and racial aspects.

However, as MR readers know, where there is Christianity and right wing reaction to a social view, there are problems for EGI, despite the best convolutions or Matt Parrottesque BS. There is insanity and self destruction inherent.

The PiS government wants to pass an anti-abortion law which would even criminalize abortion after rape.

They want to implement the dysgenic policy of giving Polish girls 500Pln per month for each child that they might have: you can live on 2000PLN per month; this will incentivize some of the least productive Polish girls to do nothing but have children.

They want to prohibit farmers from selling land to just anyone - ok, restrictions are good - but to who? Only the Polish state (at a bargain price, no doubt) or to a church. Interesting

Kaczyński’s anti-communist perspective, and the historical pincers of Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany, have him fairly beholden to internationalist cooperation with The United States.

However, there is hope in that the PiS government is working toward creating Pilsudski’s Intermarium, which is a crucial bulwark for nationalism against the hegemonic internationalism that not only the United States, not only The EU, but that the Russian Federation, Merkel Germany and a cosmopolitanizing Britain threaten the sane world with.

The Intermarium can potentially serve both the interests of Nationalist coalition but also the necessary international, viz. regional cooperation along The Silk Road.

In the meantime, while the Polish nation state provisionally holds off internationalism and immivasion, its people are both fairy patriotic for their history, strong and worldly enough to resist absurd propositions from Christian pipsqueaks.

In a word, there is hope. Poland is White and in many places, everything a White racial advocate might hope for. But are there ever serious challenges ahead.


 


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Sun, 08 May 2016 22:40 | #

It was yet another reminder that the nations of the Slav east do not intend to allow the immigration and ethnic dissolution that the political class has, for nearly seven decades, inflicted on the peoples of the west of the continent.

Let’s hope so, but Hungary was the first nation to reject the migration, and still the one most strongly doing so ... and they are not Slavs. Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia took courage from the Hungarians under Orban. The Czechs are starting to cave at the edges; we’ll see how the other two do. None have built a fence yet. So far, they have not paid a price. I put my money on the Slovaks to be the strongest of the three when it comes to standing up to the EU.

On the other hand, the Austrians have made a great showing in the recent election, and the Germans are making strong inroads with the AfD. So the German folk, along with Hungary, may end up as the true leaders of the resistance.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 08 May 2016 23:24 | #

Carol,

The leader is Britain, which is striving to leave the globalist stepping stone which is the European Union.  That, if it comes to pass, is a massive blow for European freedom which I urge you not to dismiss because it is not a nationalist achievement.  At this stage the will of the people is the issue here, not its political purity.

Of the other nations in the West I would also rank the resistance of the French, the Dutch and Danes ahead of the others Western peoples.  I think there will be rapid developments in Italy over the next couple of years.

As a whole, there is hope.  Movement is coming very late.  We, as nationalists, still lack a viable philosophy and ideology/politics.  So we are weak in numbers, and we have not been able to serve our people in this time of danger.  It is more important than ever that this terrible shortcoming is addressed (and Hitler and Jesus are no substitutes).


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Posted by anon on Mon, 09 May 2016 03:54 | #

Yes, reacting against the forces of globalism without a plan will always be a bit chaotic.

They want to prohibit farmers from selling land to just anyone - ok, restrictions are good - but to who? Only the Polish state (at a bargain price, no doubt) or to a church.

I agree with this and think all the East European states that are able to do it should nationalize farmland and *lease* out family farms with 100 year leases like English aristos did after the Black Death. If the lease is long enough so the family know their descendants will benefit then it’s as good as ownership and they will improve the land - extend the lease each time a kid takes over from the parents.

Otherwise all the good farmland will be snapped up by global companies.

Those (very long) leased family farms is one of the things that made England rich originally; state (or church) ownership with leased family farms should work the same way - the key thing is to make the leases long enough that people behave like its ownership.

 


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Mon, 09 May 2016 05:04 | #

Carol,

Can you see my name Carolyn very clearly printed above my comment?  I have never minded being called Caroline, but I do mind being called Carol.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 09 May 2016 05:58 | #

I appreciate the thoughtful and sincerely concerned comments.

Including from Carolyn:

Inasmuch as Hungary is out in front of doing what native European nationalism needs to do that is just fine with me (and I don’t feel the need to contest their non-Slavicness). I hope for the best from German nationalist parties as well.

Though things are fairly good domestically in Poland from an EGI standpoint at the moment, as you know, problems are a stone’s throw away; and on its home front, there are worrying signs besides the absurd aspects of its government - the real estate market.

There has been so much building of apartment and office buildings. So many of them are empty. “A light may go on” in the heads of these real estate developers one day - “all these apartments to rent and sell, but to who?”

A certain percentage of other Europeans would be fine.. but business and YKW being what they are.. one has to wonder if these units are slated only for native Poles and other Europeans? Will developers be content to leave the units empty?

The rents paid by businesses in Poznan are obscene. It seems like owners (I would be surprised if they aren’t YKW or mafia, of some sort) are trying to kill people; but not before they squeeze the blood out of their desperate dreams: I’ve seen so many creative, and I believe competently run businesses, go under - because rents are just too high (can be as high as NYC or Paris!).

But to end the comment on a more positive note, I do see cooperation from Poland with Hungary and other nations in border control.

I believe Frontex is centered in Warsaw. All Europeans should join it!


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Mon, 09 May 2016 18:53 | #

GW :  The leader is Britain, which is striving to leave the globalist stepping stone which is the European Union.


Today’s news: While Social Democratic leaders say [Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann’s] departure will help them rebuild the party, their government coalition partner, the conservative Austrian People’s Party, could decide to change allegiances and side with the far-right Freedom Party and call for a new election.

Should that happen, Austria could be the first western European country to elect the first far right government since World War Two.

“Austria could be the beginning of the return of the right,” said Alexandra Foederl-Schmid, editor-in-chief of Der Standard. “This is a very real possibility.”

It couldn’t begin in a more fitting place. :D


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Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 09 May 2016 21:55 | #

Carolyn,

Do you really have so short a memory.  Do you not recall the triumph of Jorg Haider’s Freedom Party in 2000, and how its coalition role in government was brought to an end by EU leaders just two years later?

The internationalist elites and the interest groups they serve have no intention of allowing nationalism the opportunity to emerge through democratic means.  Neither left nor right hate one another a tenth as much as they hate nationalism.  They will set aside their differences at a moment’s notice to fight nationalists.  Internationalism has to be killed off so that nationalist parties are freed to operate like any other.

By a largely fortuitous combination of circumstances, including political fear, arrogance, hubris, and miscalculation, the internationalists in Britain have contrived to give the people the opportunity to kill their politics.  Today Britain is, whether you understand it or not, the standard-bearer for freedom and self-expression in all Europe.  We are, I hope and trust, going to strike the blow that changes the future for the whole continent.  Nothing as meaningful, in terms of openings to a new life, will happen in Vienna or Berlin in our lifetime.

Have some respect and put aside your offensive and execrable hostility towards my brave people.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 10 May 2016 02:47 | #

Carolyn, did you know that Churchill was a poof?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3093439/Was-Winston-secretly-GAY.html

lulz


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Tue, 10 May 2016 02:54 | #

Do you not recall the triumph of Jorg Haider’s Freedom Party in 2000, and how its coalition role in government was brought to an end by EU leaders just two years later?

No, I haven’t forgotten, I’m quite aware of what happened then under the leadership of that great patriot Jorg Haider. At that time, the Austrians showed the way for Europeans, and well before the country and Europe got into the desperate migration crisis it’s in now. Now, all “far-right” parties are gaining in strength at the same time and popular opinion is against the EU. It’s mainly economic fear that keeps it in place. I think it’s ludicrous to want to give the British (and maybe Poland!) all credit for what is happening. London just elected a Muslim mayor, for God’s sake. Majority Rights is so openly pro-British, I just thought I would offer a more balanced, and rational, perspective. God save the Teutons!


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Posted by Jorgen Hosen on Tue, 10 May 2016 07:28 | #

“I’m quite aware of what happened then under the leadership of that great patriot Jorg Haider.” - Carolyn Yeager


Homoerotic cult of personality built up by Jörg Haider means his influence will be felt in Austria beyond grave.

                                                         


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 10 May 2016 10:29 | #

CC, I am astonished.  You actually read … I mean, read the Daily Mail?  Kim and Kanye, Caitlin, Taylor, Rihanna ... and Adolf:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789713/hitler-eva-braun-sex-without-touching-taking-clothes-fanatical-hygiene-says-author-martin-amis.html

Hitler and Eva Braun ‘had sex without touching each other or taking their clothes off’ because he was so fanatical about hygiene, says author Martin Amis.
Speaking at the Cheltenham Festival of Literature, the novelist claimed he believes the German dictator kept Eva at arm’s length and would achieve orgasm just by watching her lift her skirt.
He also claimed that Hitler was an asexual and may have had a similar kind of sexual relationship with his half niece, Angela ‘Geli’ Raubal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789396/hitler-s-secret-addiction-crystal-meth-fuhrer-took-breaking-bad-drug-ranting-mussolini-days-bunker.html

Adolf Hitler was a regular user of crystal meth – one of the most feared and addictive illegal substances on today’s black market and the drug at the heart of the hit TV series Breaking Bad – research has shown.
A 47-page wartime dossier compiled by American Military Intelligence reveals that Hitler, a notorious hypochondriac, took an astonishing 74 different medications including crystal methamphetamines.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087380/Did-Hitler-really-ONE-testicle-A-historian-sorts-extraordinary-truth-far-flung-myths-Fuhrer.html

Sung to the tune of The Colonel Bogey March, the old wartime song had it that Hitler was not quite a ‘complete’ male.
Now, an extraordinary claim based on an account from a long-dead German army medic asserts that the basic fact of the song is true - that Hitler really did have just one testicle.

You’re not really meant to believe this stuff.  You are meant to consume it.  Occasionally you are to get very, very angry about the latest political outrage.  But then, when you have released, you must be sure to do absolutely nothing about it except go back to looking at the pictures of the nice ladies and reading all the advertisements.  Oh, and voting for the Tories.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 10 May 2016 10:36 | #

Carolyn,

You are both a creature and a creator of a deep scar that runs across the face of WN.  It is an inconsolable embitterment by the defeat of Hitler’s Reich, and it exercises, I would say, a substantial majority of German-Americans in the movement.  It is a kind of munchausens in which historical offence is taken on behalf of another people, who differ genetically from you, and who possess no such bitterness themselves.  It leads you into error everywhere, because you are unable to see past it to the real nature of our nationalism and its role in the world.  Philosophically and politically, you are in the same semi-detached situation as the Christo-nationalists in America, who cannot see past their vast emotional attachment either, and who maintain a similarly critical discourse - an intra-racial criticism - that leads precisely nowhere.

I don’t think they or you can be helped.  I have said for many years that, foundationally, the German-American pseudo-nazistic elements in American WN are, in reality, liberals (in the proper historical sense).  They are not that interested in the nationalism of the white family, and certainly not the modern, identitarian ethnic nationalism born of existenz which prevails on the mother continent.


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Wed, 11 May 2016 00:56 | #

You are right, GW, I am not interested in your Britain-centric monologues ... and neither is anyone else from the looks of the interaction here. I’ll check back with you after May 24th and June 23rd. Then we’ll know something for sure.

To captainchaos: The worst fault of British nationalism is that it can’t give up Winston Churchill in a hero role.


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 11 May 2016 09:15 | #

Carolyn, I’d really prefer that you not come here at all. Your mere presence is an embarrassment. People who want to worship Hitler, Himmler etc, know where to go. Of course you should be totally embarrassed by the absurdity of your positions - but you won’t be - and that’s the only reason that I ever paid any attention to you at all - to see just how ridiculous that you could get and with what topics people such as yourself (let’s count you among right wingers) were concerned, so that I could help people of better will to stave-off your kind of bum steers.

As I had mentioned before, your comments on Hitler’s table talk, specifically where he talked about Ukrainians and his plans for Ukraine, proved to be enough.

Not that there wasn’t enough evidence to reject him for his instrumentality in the horrendous destruction to European peoples that was World War II.

But any European, let alone Ukrainian, with a modicum of decency and (self)respect, would not need further evidence to reject him as someone to be resurrected and upheld. You should be embarrassed, Carolyn, but you stayed perfectly loyal to Hitler, went ahead and called Ukrainians “n****rs”, now didn’t you? Hitler’s plans weren’t “defensive” after all, as the pervert, Jay, from Stormtooper radio asserts, (and Black and Duke try to assert as well) were they? For the terrible over-compensations that happened against the Germans, was this not partly an expression that Europeans were sick and tired of the war mongering and destruction of their own European kinds by its leaders (not to excuse atrocities committed by Soviets, etc)? These right-wingers pretend to care about the truth, but they only care about that which appears to justify Hitler’s war mongering.

It’s all pretty simple at its basis, Carolyn, if people were to come here, in fact, if they did come here with the occasional remark that Hitler had some things right, some legitimate complaints, but that he clearly had some things wrong as well, and particularly if our purpose is to build cooperation/coordination among European peoples that we should reject him as well off the mark, then I’d see that a sane person was talking and I would not drive them away. But nobody who is concerned about European peoples, Germans or otherwise, would be preoccupied with Hitler and his circumstances at this point, as we’ve got things to do now, completely different circumstances, people who had nothing to do with either side - and he is history at any rate.

That much sanity is hard for the American right, in particular, to swallow.

This site advocates European people, a.k.a., White people, and their discreet kinds via ethno-nationalism. You should have been embarrassed that your extreme prejudice, on behalf of Germanics only, would have your blindered perspective in this instance exposed to the truth about Jorg Haider that you pretended to be so familiar with. He was “a great patriot”, whereas you have gone around accusing everyone under the sun of being a homosexual -  but you’re the poster girl for exaggerating the significance of that issue too, aren’t you?

It’s good not to be a right winger.

You’ve got Anglin with his BS about how he’s doing us all a favor at the lineal extreme of the Overton Window. Of course he’s got it backwards, carries that albatross which will sink unity and progress as White people. Our enemies know it and so do sane people know it - but that’s why you come here, Carolyn, to a sane place, to try to appear as if you are sane too, and direct people into your insanity.

Anglin says that “younger people get it”, they get his “funny trolling”, they understand that he is “pushing the Overton window”, whereas “older people don’t get it.” Nice try kidd-o.

It’s not that you’ve got some demographic of younger people who are awakening to the J.Q. and their racial concerns, whose anger, coupled with personal background, does not directly conflict with Hitler’s world view enough to suspend disbelief in his flawlessness from the start. It’s not that these young people who “get it” are plugging into an Internet echo chamber that is insulated from the reality testing that people born before the Internet were forced to undergo, no, “the younger people know what is going on, and these older people, they don’t get it.”

There is no love lost between Anglin and Greg Johnson, but even Greg Johnson has done another tentosphere about-face in order to try to go along with that one in his conversation with Guillaume Durocher.

People who care about White/European people first and foremost don’t uphold Hitler.

No, but some of the old right wing larpists who never got over Hitler, they “get it”- its an unfortunate problem with Bob in D.C.  - he’ll tend to favor any theory that tends to provide more justification for Hitler and tend to ignore ones that don’t.

But you are not alone in that, it is common among the right wing, its tentoshere, to simply ignore what is not convenient to portraying Nazi Germany’s innocence and victimization. They say that they care about the truth, but they don’t.

It is also common among them that they really don’t care about White people; i.e., they care about Hitler more, and don’t have a problem with vast swathes of perfectly fine Whites having been killed and perhaps being killed again because of his hair brained delineations.

It is no coincidence that you see people like this, this, this, this and this promoting Hitler - because they are marginals and don’t really care about White/European peoples.

We “don’t get it”... but they do… yeah, right.​


Anglin


“The General” (of who, Syrians?) Dana Antiochus.


Nice lips - Weev speaking in a Dana interview…


In another Dana Antiochus interview, of “Giacomo Vallone”, I knew that “Vallone” was not true to our people right from the start - because I do care about Whites/Europeans. And I was glad to help my German and other brothers expose him and not be taken in by him.

Dana followed up Greg Johnson’s right wing alley with Dyal as well:

But these young right-wingers, “they get it.”

They get nothing but the dangerous bubble that old fools have left behind, that is filled up with Internet helium, participated in and guided by fools, where not guided by agents and steered by enemies into reaction and divide and conquer.


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Posted by Franklin Ryckaert on Wed, 11 May 2016 14:07 | #

People who still maintain that Hitler was a “great white nationalist” only need to read the passages in Hitler’s Table Talk, 1941-1944 dealing with his vision for the future of the peoples of Eastern Europe to be cured from that delusion. Here are some excerpts :

”...This space in Russia must always be dominated by Germans. Nothing would be a worse mistake on our part than to seek to educate the masses there. It is to our interest that the people should know just enough to recognise the signs on the roads. At present they can’t read, and they ought to stay like that…” (HTT p.15)

i>”...We’ll take the southern part of the Ukraine, especially the Crimea, and make it an exclusively German colony…”</i>(HTT p.16)

”...The essential thing, for the moment, is to conquer. After that everything will be simply a question of organisation. When one contemplates this primitive world, one is convinced that nothing will drag it out of its indolence unless one compels the people to work. The Slavs are a mass of born slaves, who feel the need of a master…” (HTT p.33)

”...The Russian space is our India. Like the English, we shall rule this empire with a handful of men. It would be a mistake to claim to educate the native. All that we could give him would be a half-knowledge—just what’s needed to conduct a revolution..!”(HTT p.33)

<i>”...The foundation of St. Petersburg by Peter the Great was a fatal event in the history of Europe; and St. Petersburg must therefore disappear utterly from the earth’s surface. Moscow, too. Then the Russians will retire into Siberia…”(HTT p.617)

”...As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mould the best of them to the shape that suits us, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-styes; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitant and civilising him, goes straight off into a concentration camp..!” (HTT p.617)

But there are still those who maintain that Hitler “only wanted to defend Germany” or to “defeat Bolshevism”. At least Carolyn Yeager is more honest. She believes Hitler was right in wanting to conquer Lebensraum in the countries of the “inferior” Slavs !


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Posted by Carolyn Yeager on Thu, 12 May 2016 01:59 | #

Wow, talk about overkill and paranoia. I did not mention Hitler at all, but GW, DanielS and now Frankilin Ryckaert all go on about Hitler and blame/attack Carolyn Yeager !! I’m told by DanielS that my presence is an embarrassment, but he’s the one who then writes an entire thesis (recyled) about so-called “right-wing” fans of Hitler that have nothing to do with me, or the post by GW.

I am interested in the upcoming Austrian election and the Brexit referendum, which fit the topic of the post. I will be checking back in then.


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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 12 May 2016 08:38 | #

Carolyn, your bread and butter reputation is as an advocate of Hitler, Himmler and co. and of wanting to resurrect their ideology verbatim. Some people are justifiably turned-off by that and do not want to be associated with it. MR’s platform offers a reprieve from people who want to traffic in unanimity with Hitler and the Third Reich.

We are a platform that advocates European peoples theoretically, argumentatively, practically, and palpably, in general through DNA coordination and in situ, through ethnonationlism; we coordinate with other ethno-nationalisms in that manner as well - viz. Japan and the rest of Asia.

It is a stable platform as such, which sees Jews and other non-Whites as outsiders of our interest group, who need to be coordinated with more or less - Jews, blacks and Arabs less in a sense of negotiative outreach that we expect to produce positive results. Of Asians we are more optimistic for more reasoned cooperation.

We also take a stance against the Abahamic religions.

We take a stance against common theoretical and practical perfidies of the right - hence our stand against you. You have apparently taken it under advisory to put your name here to serve as a conduit to direct people to you, your site and its Hitler unanimity shrine. MR is not a conduit for that.

If our platform is to be a conduit, it is to be for the purpose of coordinating ethno-nationals, particularly Europeans, who respect themselves generally and in their discreet kinds. From there we coordinate broader defense for the sovereignty and advancement of our peoples. With cooperation and coordination amongst ourselves and with Asia, we can secure the necessary economic, industrial and material resources along with the genetic base to defend our peoples and territories; and then advance to grander programs, including space exploration and colonies.


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Posted by Poland’s (ABW) arrests Mateusz Piskorski on Fri, 20 May 2016 11:55 | #

Mateusz Piskorski, the leader of the Zmiana (Change) party was arrested by officers from Poland’s Interior Defense Agency (ABW) after they raided his Warsaw home, seizing computers and documents. The homes of several other party members were also searched.

Piskorski, known for his pro-Russian views, was charged with spying for “third countries” as pro-government media accused him of working for Russian and Chinese intelligence services.

[...]

Meanwhile, special services coordinator Mariusz Kaminski confirmed that the arrest of Mateusz Piskorski was a matter of national security.

“This is a very serious case and it has to do with this country’s national security,” Kaminski said in an interview with RMF FM radio station in Krakow.

He added that Piskorsi had indeed been arrested by national security agents on charges of espionage.

Sputnik


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Posted by Hungarian - Polish Alliance crucial on Sun, 22 May 2016 08:59 | #

Euractiv, “Polish premier says will never bow to EU ‘ultimatum” 20 May 2016:

Poland’s right-wing Prime Minister Beata Szydlo vowed Friday (20 May) that her government would never bow to any EU ultimatum and accused some members of the European Commission of trying to “destroy” the 28-member bloc.

Szydlo was responding to a Monday deadline (23 May) set by the Commission for Poland to reverse a controversial overhaul of the country’s top court that has set off a fiery dispute between Warsaw and Brussels.

“Poland will never succumb to any ultimatum,” Szydlo said during a stormy debate in parliament.

“There are some in the European Commission… who want to destroy the European Union rather than see it develop.”

Hungary, Poland and illiberal democracy

The EU’s problem is that others are following the illiberal regimes of Hungary and in Poland, and it is possible that among them be Germany, writes George Friedman.

The executive warned earlier this week it could take further action against Poland because of concerns over the commitment of the governing Law and Justice (PiS) to the rule of law.

“If there is no significant progress by 23 May, then the First Vice-President (Frans Timmermans) has been empowered to adopt the draft rule of law opinion,” the commission said in a statement on Wednesday.

The exact contents of the opinion are not known, but if Warsaw fails to address the issues raised, it could eventually face a suspension of voting rights in the European council of ministers, the EU’s most important decision-making body.

However, Poland’s regional ally Hungary is likely to torpedo any possible sanctions, which would require the unanimous approval of all 28 EU members.

In Friday’s parliamentary debate, leaders of Poland’s liberal opposition party the Civic Platform blasted Szydlo for “desecrating the constitution” and “burning more bridges with Europe”.

An MP from the conservative Polish Peasants’ Party went so far as to charge that the actions of her administration risked “civil war”.

Poles launch campaign against court reform

Tens of thousands of Poles took to Facebook Thursday (10 March) to support the country’s top court in a constitutional battle against the right-wing government.

Szydlo’s government plunged Poland into political crisis in December when it pushed through legislation to revamp the constitutional court and modify its decision-making rules.

The European Commission in January launched an unprecedented probe to see if the changes — seen by critics as endangering the court’s independence — violated EU democracy rules and merited punitive measures.

Since taking office in November, the PiS government has pushed through several pieces of controversial legislation, including strengthening state control over public broadcasters and seeking to tighten already limited access to abortions.

Poland’s rejection of refugees under an EU-wide plan to tackle Europe’s worst migrant crisis since World War II has also chilled ties with Brussels.



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