The idiot OVFuckyou and his thorough dedication to Hitler as the leader of White Nationalism

Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 18 August 2019 08:42.

Here’s Fredo, the Aryan overman - or is he the ghost of Armenia, which Hitler suggested as an example of genocides that would be forgotten once a war of annihilation was long completed?

In recent months I’ve had the misfortune to have been confronted by an idiot going by the handle “ovfuckyou.” I did not seek him out. I found myself encountered by him in circumstances where people with overlapping (White Nationalist) concerns thought it might be constructive to “debate” him and his idea that WN should rally under Hitler and his programmatic leadership.

As I have said many times, Majorityrights is a platform that plainly rejects that idea; it rather functions as recourse for people who are able to see the obvious - that the people of today are not responsible for the World Wars, and all reasonable European peoples should be able to rally and coordinate under the rubric of ethnonationalism (while diaspora can be coordinated by the DNA Nations concept), but not all Europeans will be able to rally under Hitler and his program, quite the opposite. Thus, while there was obvious provocation from Jewry (unless we ascribe to the absurd position that Germans were ex-nihilo violent en mass) we reject the program of trying to redeem Hitler on balance and to engage in elaborate attempts to justify or deny his bad judgments and misdeeds.

These are such obvious and easy points to make by means of numerous references that I don’t like to discuss the issues, as I have no desire to lay guilt trips or stir up animosity among present day Europeans, for whatever side of WWII their ancestors were on. Hence, I have endeavored to post reference material to state in as brief and conciliatory a manner as possible, why it is that White Nationalism should Not try to redeem Hitler and Nazism as proponents of White Nationalism; they are rather significantly divisive and stigmatizing influences where adhered to the extent that an idiot like ovfuckyou does.

Sure ov is falling out with former White associates (e.g., people calling themselves “the gas station”). The right is inherently unstable. Typically, he’s talking to Jews now, of course - because they want to maintain the association of Hitler and WN. It’s divide and conquer.

ovfuckyou unabashedly identifies with the swastika.

It is one thing to say, “ok, Hitler and the Nazis had their reasons, and they had some things right”... but if one is to exercise 20/20 hindsight the place to find it is not in Nazi propaganda.

Having gotten myself lured into testing “debate” with ovfuckyou (accompanied by a few other Nazophiles) because he was hanging-out with Norvin, whom I hope to help around into a more stable position (his association with ov is broken, so that’s good, at least for the time being), I endeavored to explain the perspective of the nations between The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, viz. Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, and Czech.

Understanding the perspective of these nations goes far to debunk an argument critical to Nazi apologists, i.e., that “Hitler was acting defensively against a Soviet invasion.”

Further debunking the Nazi position is to show that territorial concessions required of Germany by the Treaty of Versailles and St. Germain were not wholly arbitrary and without justification.

It is apparent why, at this point, ovfuckyuou and friends started to shout over me, talking in mock Jewish voices, saying that I was whining about things (whining? I don’t even like talking about this history ..if anyone is whining it is them and if anyone should be complaining about the war, it is the victims - including the Germans - of Hitler’s hair-brained program).

He’s been making the rounds in what appears to be The Regnery Circus 2.0

While I can kind of understand Norvin and a few other newbies, especially German Americans coming up through American right wing auspices, not being quite ready to be finished with ov’s angle, he’s been propped up, making the circuit on other White advocacy platforms, with people who’s intelligence and audience I have some regard for otherwise, and whose platforms overlap Majorityrights in significant ways - should be entirely; hence, to simply walk away from them is not on order.

After the mishap with the debate proposal by Norvin, which demonstrated that I ought not bother bringing the good-willed Per Nordin let alone the consummate professional, Dr. Christian Lindner, into the mudslinging of Ov, I found myself in a hangout with him, Claire Khaw and Church of Entropy. We were both opposed to Church of Entropy, no need to go into details - but that and other temporary alignments with ov caused me to let my guard down a bit when he found his way onto Eccelux streams.

When people are as apparently intelligent as Eccelux I have difficulty suspending disbelief that they can be blinded to the obvious.

Part of Ecce’s blindness may stem from fairly commercial aspirations. One can say that we need to get our voice out there, but then is it our voice when a litmus test is put in place that we represent ourselves by means of eye rolling right wing perfidy?

There seems to be something like a Regnery circus 2.0 in re-formation. The Regnery perspective was the structural backing of The Alt-Right. Richard Spencer was a central figure and apparently remains. Litmus tests were in order to join the club: an anti social identity - Nazi sympathy, German supremacism, Christianity, scientism, right wing elitism generally - including Jews if sufficiently Germanophilic.

Richard Spencer once said that we have to make sure that people are right on the “PQ”, the Polish question, and if they are not, they need to be ostracized. He added, “there’s not going to be your little Poland.” Well, why not? Why not “little Poland” and “little Germany”?

Apparently because Spencer is not an ethnonationalist, he’s an imperialist surpremacist who wishes for a Molotiv-Ribbentrop Pact 2.

The Rengery perspective is not simply Gemanophilic, though it is that, it is not simply Nazophilic, though it is that. It is tolerant of pagans and other non Christians but it prefers Christians. It’s tolerant of Jews, will even include them in the big tent if they’re against “the left” and more particularly, if they are Germanophilic Jews, added points if they do apologetics for Nazi Germany or Holocaust deniers.

The Regnery Circus platform was The Voice of Reason Broadcasting Network a few years back. Now defunct, the circus functions through a few Youtube channels.

Josh Neal shows all the hallmarks of being a focal point for its rounds, many of the same ironic combination of Nazi apologetics and Jews/those who believe that Jews should be included in orchestrating White advocacy.

Recently, Josh was talking to Brett Stevens - the guy and his site, “Amerika,” are clearly shills for Jewish interests.

Ovfuckyuou is playing the Carolyn Yeager role of pure Nazi.

I know, I know, it’s 4D chess, the Rubix Cube.

Interestingly, in his last talk with Eccelux (and Faustian Spirit), ovfuckyou had the nerve to say that ‘there’s a void resulting from White people being cast into a binary decision between liberalism or Nazism’ when in fact, I’ve been offering a clear alternative to that for ten years now - while ovfuckyou talked and blustered over me when I attempted to articulate this position.

Here are some of the perfidies that ovfuckyou tried to put across as “argument”:

When I said that I wash my hands of coal burners (burn the coal pay the toll), ovfuckyou issued the ridiculous non-sequitur that I was being ‘hypocritical’ in not believing that nationals, e.g., French, defending their nations and people against Nazi Germany should die.

He said that.

Just to test further how absurd he might be, I asked, what would you expect me to say to Polish people regarding Hitler?

Ovfuckyou said that I should say to them that “Hitler was not so bad.” He said that, he really said that. I laughed, genuinely.

On two different occasions he spoke of the good relations between Germans, including Nazi Germany, and Russia.

Do I really need to look beyond the Leningrad and Stalingrad to cite examples of how relations were not necessarily so great between Hitler’s platform and the Russian folk? How about the Russian rapes of German women by war’s end for good Russian/Nazi rapport?

Because I am not overly sympathetic to Germany’s arguments for WWI or WWII, let alone the destruction wrought by their war efforts in both cases, citing examples of destruction that ovfuckyou apparently didn’t want to hear about, he tried to insist that I was anti German.

I repeat, in truth, that I am not anti German. I advocate Germans as I advocate all European peoples; but not only as arbitrary Europeans, I advocate the maintenance of our discreet kinds; in other words, Germany as an ethnostate for Germans and the capacity of German diaspora to maintain their kinds as well, whether coordinated through the DNA Nations or their German clubs and so on… the same rule structure that I advocate for all European peoples.

When it would become clear to him that there were cogent White Nationalist arguments to be made without, even against the Nazi position, ovfuckyou not only tried to talk over, but to shout over; and when I recognized that he’s not going to talk in good faith and rose above his din by raising my own volume, he tried to say that he was triggering me and had won the debate - said that he couldn’t believe that I was Italian because Italians are not so “thin-skinned.”

First of all, I thought that Italians were notoriously temperamental - my family certainly was.

Secondly, why would I be so “thin skinned” as to not want to platform his stupidity, for ‘little issues’ like not wanting to include Hitler redemption in a WN platform, nor wanting to be bothered with holocaust denial - why would I be ‘so thin skinned as to not want to be associated with that?’

OvFredo presses down on his diaphragm for his trademark “well adjusted” fake chuckle that’s supposed to unnerve and disarm.

When it didn’t work, when I did not want to be bothered with this recalcitrant idiot, he proceeded to berate me as a faggot, a Pollock and he said he would kick my ass. Ecce and I were off the air with ovfuckyou when he launched into this little tirade.

Look at him. Who’s ass is he going to kick? Who is he going to unite with this sort of incitement under the banner of Hitler?

This was followed by a series of abusive emails from ovfuckyou - all because I don’t love Hitler.

It’s not enough to be ok with Germans, to want to ally with them, to fight on the same side in coordination of their interests, to advocate their German ethnostate, their diasporic species, not enough to view Jews as other, aliens with interests other than ours, predominantly hostile, requiring separatism - no. If I don’t love Hitler this asshole is going to to try to trash me.

The road to hell can be paved with bad intentions as well.

I’m asking you too, Ecce. Is that too hard a Rubix cube? Is there a sack big enough to accommodate ovfuckyou’s shit?

And yet Ecce is all cool with him, says I’m being over sensitive.

Perhaps the Regnery Circus might be there to rescue and underwrite ovfuckyou. Josh Neal endorses him. Checking all the right boxes.

“Unite the right”, works real good

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In sum, for me to take the honest position of advocating all European peoples, and the maintenance of their discreet kinds - I’m an ethnonationalist, so, Germany for Germans - and to extend the DNA Nations to maintain the discreet kinds of Europeans in diaspora as well; and furthermore, to say that I do not want present day Germans to feel guilty about history, nor do I - this was not enough for ovfuckyou. He starts attacking me, trying to belittle me as a “Pollock” and a “faggot”, and ostracize because I won’t genuflect to Hitler.

Watch it kiddo. The road to hell can be paved with bad intentions as well.

I’ve invited ovfuckyou to Europe, including Poland and parts east. You can tell the people for yourself how great Hitler was, how he was “not that bad.”

Ovfuckyou, your stupidity is so destructive that there is no negative consequence that could come to you that would not leave me feeling just fine about it.



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Posted by Burned out stream on Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:41 | #

Burned out Xers and Generation Internet bubble pandered to by right wing boomers.

Daniel Sienkiewicz comments on the burned-out stream

Burned-out Stream

21 minutes ago:

Ecce, can it possibly occur to you that ovfuckyou is continually proposing a false either/or between Hitler/Nazi imperialism or Jewish/Soviet imperialism? That he might not know the history as well as he thinks and apparently you think? He is committing something worse than a false either/or, however, through his impervious unanimity with Hitler and bluster over a view toward history which would rather deploy 20/20 hindsight for ethnonational cooperation as opposed to his impervious unanimity for Hitler/Nazi imperialism.

This is infuriating because his angle is not only so unnecessarily stupid in its attempt to exonerate Hitler across the board but because it is also so dangerous.

It’s perfectly reasonable to say that Hiter/Nazism had their reasons, had some things right; that Jewry was a predominant instigating element requiring to be separated out.

It is not reasonable to say (because it isn’t true) that Hitler/Nazi Germany were the only ones who understood the danger and otherness of YKW/the Soviet Union and that they had the perfect platform and program in response - as ovfuckyou maintains. 53:36

As he ignores the epistemic blunders of Nazi Germany and the badly drawn friend/enemy lines, and as he imperviously maintains them through crude antagonism (of nationals whose history was on the side of the Allies and feel no need for guilt over the history either) he is manifesting what may as well be called evil.

The road to hell can be paved with bad intentions as well.

Ovfuckyou relies on fallacious Nazi propaganda (which American WN is rife with) and impervious Nazi unanimity, to the point where he would pit as the enemy and try to degrade anyone, e.g. myself, anyone who endeavors to show the obvious fact that Hitler was not representative of the interests of White people

This is evil because the degrading disrespect and hatred that he expresses for ethnonationals - those who simply recognize the obvious fact that Hitler cannot be a rallying point for European ethnonational cooperation - instigates a response such that you want to kill him and start into reciprocal abuse and degradation for his nationality in turn; at which point we’ve set in motion the infamous reciprocally escalating diatribe - leading ultimately, to inter-European war: a J harvest.

A large part of the problem begins with the White demographic of America which is in vast disproportion Germanic and pandered to, both by naive/disingenuous right wingers (who supply idiots like ov with the propaganda slant that he consumes) and by YKW, who want to maintain the Hitler/Nazi association for it’s divide and conquer effect among European peoples; along with that, as it will be repellent to solidarity of reasonable ethnonationalists for its pandering to a particular, narrow, supremacist reaction of German Americans (and to an extent other White American and non White demographics who may not have an immediately negative reaction to Hitler for whatever reason - but usually because their people were not a direct target of Hitler’s attack).

Speaking of that demographic lazily adhering to an anachronistic right wing perspective, Johathan Pohl gave the lamest response to The DNA Nations concept yet.

The DNA Nations concept is meant to coordinate ethnonationalism - yes, that includes Germany for Germans - and European diaspora - that means protecting diaspora of various blended kinds of Europeans and protecting their discreet species as well - yes, the German kind in diaspora as well, of course.

Jonathan Pohl’s reaction to the concept? As if it was redundant because America has its ethnic lodges. He likes to go to his (in his words) German-American club for bratwurst, beer and German music.

FFS! As if that’s mutually exclusive. As if that makes the DNA Nations concept redundant? How lame. I mean, I can relate to liking bratwurst and beer but really…  oompah music to make the DNA Nations redundant? To make White EthnoNational unionization and coalition building redundant? I don’t think so, but importantly, this kind of ethnic club is not mutually exclusive to these more far reaching concepts of White defense (!).

Face palm.

Generation internet bubble and some Xers too have been protected from reality testing (believing all perspectives are either Nazi or Jewish) as a result of their unquestioned consumption of umbilical chord fed right wing reactionary boomer propaganda which pandered to a White American demographic in their internet bubbles overly disposed in reaction to be sympathetic to Hitler and not critical enough to his destructiveness to the capacity for European ethnonational cooperation, social systemic reconstruction and homeostasis. In fact, by contrast, oblivious to the danger of yet another YKW harvest resulting of their right wing perfidy.

For the moment I will refrain form saying anything more about the pimiento-headed ov… other than, he looks like “Fredo”, doesn’t he?

     
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 20 Sep 2019 03:12 | #

I spoke with Norvin and Marshall a day or two ago, advising them as I always do, to pursue sovereignty, establish innocence for you and your people, that you simply want to be left alone in your sovereignty - that’s your aim, not active persecution or exploitation of others.

With that established in the public eye, you are more or less warranted to defend yourself if “they” do persecute you; moreover, you begin to establish the warranted means to designate, pursue and prosecute criminals.

Having said that, in the course of conversation we digressed to talk about dangerous insects and snakes, and Marshall made a joke by analogy, saying that “it’s ok to kill Jews.”

I said, in response, “watch the fed posting.”

I should and do, disavow this more strongly. But it does go exactly against what I was advising. That utterance is not establishing the wish to be left alone, it says rather that its ok to go after Jews just because they are Jews.

I must disavow this. The only potential saving grace to such an utterance is the ambiguity - when can it be ok to “kill Jews?” Most people would agree that it would be ok in the event of clearly warranted self defense.

Most people, myself included, would not agree that it is ok to kill Jews just because they are Jews.

Am I just being nice? Not exactly. Kant associated morals with practicality for a reason.

Pursuit of separate governance, yes - that is warranted.

I do have some concern that this kind of thing was slipped into a conversation with me in order to black mail me so that I cannot as effectively object to others fed posting, particularly the Hitler fans - like OVfuckyou, like “Heinrich Lucas Ford”... perhaps Tanstaafl, I don’t know what idiotic idolatry of Hitler might be putting people up to such over the top utterances, fed posting…

I have objected that the reason that people like Claire Khaw are platforming the likes of OV is because she does not really care about Europeans - the fact that Hitler’s war got more than 50 million Europeans killed (along with what were probably the less destructive kinds of Jews) - is because she is a third worlder (Chinese), not European, with our concerns at heart.

Make no mistake, Hitler was not a man of peace, he was a war monger - it’s clear from the very first paragraphs and sentences of Mein Kampf as they drip with war mongering intent.

Hitler apologists object that empires were lost, we have Wiemar on a global scale now because Hitler didn’t win. Claire says that Poland was Germany’s backyard as Ireland is England’s backyard. “Hitler just wanted his piece of the pie.” Again, spoken like a disinterested third worlder. Take it to Hitler.

You want to do 20/20 hindsight?

How about Hitler doesn’t start the war and honestly coordinates with Europeans, who were all against the Soviets, all nations replete with enough anti Semitism to pursue a course of their de-nationalization and deportation to Israel (or wherever)?

Present day Europeans had nothing to do with World War Two and must move forward in cooperation for our native peoples.

Doovid, a Jewish man, is talking to the idiot OV and that would make sense because Jewry is eager to maintain the association of Hitler and White Nationalism.

In fact, this recent biography of Oskar Schindler put together by the Jewish run Biographics Channel, calls Hitler “a White Nationalist and anti-elitist.” Hitler was nothing of the kind. He was an imperialist and a supremacist.

It is an irony of those trying to redeem him, as OV does, not only to the consternation of European Ethnonational coordination, because antagonism, denigration and vilification of other European peoples is built into Hitler’s platform, but also because in losing the war, Hitler’s natural fallacy had him proclaiming that the Germans didn’t prove to be the strongest, therefore didn’t deserve to survive. Thus, it is a divide and conquer doing a great favor to our enemies.

These people, like OV, who antagonize those who reject Hitler, and only advocate those who were on Hitler’s side, aren’t even advocating their own kind in the end, for Hitler’s racial anarchism, nihilism, his “objectivity.”

Sure Hitler was popular with puerile girls, in their sado-masochism - incitement to genetic competition, loser be damned (even if its your own kind - simply twerk and present to the winner, very easy to be a girl - while women find out the consequences of puerile decisions).

From among the group of Hitler fans buzzing around my talks with Josh Neal, it was said to me that Hitler solved the Jewish problem. He did nothing of the kind. On the contrary, he made it exponentially worse.


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Posted by The most stupid remark of late on Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:01 | #

Belongs to Ecce Lux

“And, yeah, they’re younger, so the whole Hitler thing is different for them. You and I are of a generation in which it’s a really big deal as where they don’t have the inculcation you and I went through” - Ecce Lux

Get it? Generation internet bubblers have not only been convinced by some stupid right wing boomers, convinced themselves, but have convinced late generation Xer, Ecce Lux, that it is I, along with him, that have the problem of not having been emancipated from inculcation in propaganda, which would otherwise allow for light-hearted if not full support of Hitler as the guiding light of contemporary European alliance. -  DanielS.

Some of these young Hitler-heads are actually convinced that they know better because they are younger. They are that stupid.

Speaking of generation internet bubble -

“Heinrich Lucas Ford”, a Hitler worshiper, said that the only people he knows who reject Hitler are older people. Time to test the reality out of the bubble, kiddo.



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