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MSN / New York Times, ‘Donald Trump Plays Down Role of U.S. in Global Crises’, 21 Jul 2016:

CLEVELAND — Donald J. Trump, on the eve of accepting the Republican nomination for president, said Wednesday that if he were elected, he would not pressure Turkey or other authoritarian allies about conducting purges of their political adversaries or cracking down on civil liberties. The United States, he said, has to “fix our own mess” before trying to alter the behavior of other nations.

Interesting!

[...] “This is not 40 years ago,” Mr. Trump said, rejecting comparisons of his approaches to law-and-order issues and global affairs to Richard Nixon’s. Reiterating his threat to pull back United States troops deployed around the world, he said, “We are spending a fortune on military in order to lose $800 billion,” citing what he called America’s trade losses. “That doesn’t sound very smart to me.”

Mr. Trump repeatedly defined American global interests almost purely in economic terms. Its roles as a peacekeeper, as a provider of a nuclear deterrent against adversaries like North Korea, as an advocate of human rights and as a guarantor of allies’ borders were each quickly reduced to questions of economic benefit to the United States.

This is really one of the most remarkable things about Trump. The most remarkable thing about him is that he says directly what other American leaders have cunningly masked all along. In that sense, Trump is not a fundamental change in America’s behaviour, he is more like America without the mask on, and with a different set of priorities.

Whereas previously, America was interested in encircling and enclosing Russia to prevent its expansion in the post-Soviet space, the elements of America that are now more interested in enclosing China are making Trump into their vehicle.

[...] Mr. Trump’s discussion of the crisis in Turkey was telling, because it unfolded at a moment in which he could plainly imagine himself in the White House, handling an uprising that could threaten a crucial ally in the Middle East. The United States has a major air base at Incirlik in Turkey, where it carries out attacks on the Islamic State and keeps a force of drones and about 50 nuclear weapons.

Mr. Trump had nothing but praise for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the country’s increasingly authoritarian but democratically elected leader. “I give great credit to him for being able to turn that around,” Mr. Trump said of the coup attempt on Friday night. “Some people say that it was staged, you know that,” he said. “I don’t think so.”

Trump is now Turkey. Erdogan is now America.

[...] Asked if Mr. Erdogan was exploiting the coup attempt to purge his political enemies, Mr. Trump did not call for the Turkish leader to observe the rule of law, or Western standards of justice. “When the world sees how bad the United States is and we start talking about civil liberties, I don’t think we are a very good messenger,” he said.

The Obama administration has refrained from any concrete measures to pressure Turkey, fearing for the stability of a crucial ally in a volatile region. But Secretary of State John F. Kerry has issued several statements urging Mr. Erdogan to follow the rule of law.

Donald Trump is in complete agreement with the Obama Administration on this issue. The only difference is a minor difference in rhetoric.

[...] Mr. Trump said he was convinced that he could persuade Mr. Erdogan to put more effort into fighting the Islamic State. But the Obama administration has run up, daily, against the reality that the Kurds — among the most effective forces the United States is supporting against the Islamic State — are being attacked by Turkey, which fears they will create a breakaway nation.

Asked how he would solve that problem, Mr. Trump paused, then said: “Meetings.”

Translation: He will do nothing.

[...] Ousting President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, he said, was a far lower priority than fighting the Islamic State — a conclusion the White House has also reached, but has not voiced publicly.

“Assad is a bad man,” Mr. Trump said. “He has done horrible things.” But the Islamic State, he said, poses a far greater threat to the United States.

Trump is actually lying here. Trump has previously said that he would deliberately allow ISIL to do maximum damage to the Syrian government, because that is in the American national interest, which he considers to be more important than coordinating with global stakeholders.

[...] He said he had consulted two former Republican secretaries of state, James A. Baker III and Henry Kissinger, saying he had gained “a lot of knowledge,” but did not describe any new ideas about national security that they had encouraged him to explore.

Donald Trump is reverse-Nixon, that’s all you need to know.

[...]

“To me, ‘America First’ is a brand-new, modern term,” he said. “I never related it to the past.”

He paused a moment when asked what it meant to him.

“We are going to take care of this country first,” he said, “before we worry about everyone else in the world.”

Well, there it is.

Abraham Anon

Kumiko was telling me about her disgust with Hillary and the YKW’s wars, citing an egregious collateral damage to schools and education: this will obstruct solutions to the root of social problems and exacerbate social problems from the root as the schools and formative educational years of vast demographics are being destroyed. She is enraged by the damage this will do to personal and social skills. She asks what can be done?

I suggest a new variant of the 12 step meetings. Why? Because when people have been that damaged and obstructed by an interpersonal problem - such as Islamic abuse - it will be primarily these people who have sufficient understanding; they will have sufficient concern; it will be a necessity for them to take the time and show patience; to articulate the difficulties in full significance of the impact to them and society; and to search for solutions.

People who have not gone through this will generally not have sufficient understanding of the difficulties of getting through it, even if they did have inclination and take time from their faster track to a good life to put up with the wild and frustrating expressions that result from traumatic experiences and pervasive abuse.

The “victims” themselves will carry most of the load - by “sharing their hope, strength and inspiration” indispensable coping skills will find their way among them. But that doesn’t mean that people coming from a background undergirded by normal philosophy and interpersonal relations shouldn’t interact with them; in fact, that is one of the first differences I would make from the 12 Step programs - to have intermittent interaction from people from healthy backgrounds so that they can model normalcy for them and share normal skills. To make sure that bad thinking doesn’t keep circulating and gets directed out before long.

So, there could be Visitors Meetings and Skilled Workshop Meetings to go along with the usual kinds of 12 Step meetings -

Speaker Meetings, in which one person tells the story of their struggle with the problem.

Step Meetings, in which one of the Steps is focused-on, with each person in the group having a chance to discuss their take and experience with that step.

The next change that I would propose is putting into question whether 12 should be the number of steps; of course it has pagan origin and has been hijacked by Abrahamism, but perhaps another number should be proposed to make the break more clear.

Of course the content of the steps should be significantly different as well. I will only sketch-in what they might look like. Suggestions from others are more than welcome.

One of the excellent features of the 12 step program idea is that one is not excluded for lacking skills or for not contributing dues. All that is required is a belief that you have a problem with the stated issue of the meeting group and that you comply with a few of its basic guidelines. There are no leaders. You agree to not expose the identity of those who go to meetings and to not gossip about them to people outside the group. You agree enough with the 12 steps (rather, we’ll go with 14 steps, why not?) to allow them to provide coherence; and, except for speaker meetings, you allow a chance for each person who wants to talk.

Ok. There are probably some things that I’m forgetting but that’s enough to start. Let me have a stab at how the steps might read:

The 14 Steps of Abraham-Anon

1. Came to understand that I had a problem with Abrahamism and that I could not handle it alone.

2. Came to identify positive attributes of my distinct race and my share in these positive attributes. Affirmed these daily to provide faith in mine and my people’s worth as opposed to the Abrahamic god.

3. Conducted a fearless and searching personal inventory in order to purge its memes which may harm myself, my people, and in order to make amends to anyone who I have harmed in the name of Abrahamism or because I was inappropriately directing my response to it.

4. Came to understand the truth of how harmful Abrahamism is.

5. Came to understand Abrahamism is not a necessary evil nor a relative cultural preference; there are other “gods” and better ways.

6. Came to understand that its practice and promotion must be rejected by our people.

7. Came to understand that its perpetrators can and must be punished - ranging from denunciation, to social ostracism, to denationalization, to severe personal punishment in some cases.

8. Came to believe in the priceless gift of serenity to be found in the faith that my race, my place within it, and our interests are being looked after by the best and greater part of my people; by myself included.

9. Came to believe not only in the reality of distinct kinds of people, but also their right to preserve their differences.

10. Came to believe in the DNA Nation and international ethno-nationalism (genetic and territorial bounds); as the means to such maintenance of distinct peoples; their quantities and qualities of genetic inventory; their habitats through national territorial delimitations; qualitative and quantitative foreign enclave delimitations.

11. Came to believe that the Abrahamic religion and the Abrahamic man is already an imperialist hybrid and therefore his fate and place is the subject of our discretion.

12. Came to believe that Abrahamism can and should be destroyed once and for all.

13. Came to believe facilitating that destruction to be our prerogative as the people who are willing and capable of respecting racial differences, their right to be preserved in ethno-states, among the DNA Nation; and knowing that there is no avoiding the issue of morals - that every society will have some things that are legitimate, some things prohibited and some things obligated - will seek moral orders based on the Silver Rule as opposed to The Golden Rule.

14. Came to understand that the homeostasis of our ethnostates are contingent upon having the decency and wisdom to respect an option for sacred and devotional enclaves for those preferring strict monogamy (e.g., they want to choose carefully enough, devote themselves to that important choice; and/or concentrate on their endeavors otherwise, not chasing around for partners); and that those wanting to protect more liberal personal prerogatives must assent to that sacrosanct option and to strict national borders of citizenship -  paradigmatic conservatism.

Summary: Part three of a roundtable between Guessedworker, DanielS, and Kumiko Oumae, about Brexit and the leadership contest which is emerging in the aftermath of the decision.

The curtailment of the leadership contest within the Conservative Party, is discussed.

Recorded on 11 Jul 2016.

AFP, ‘Four police killed at US race bias protest: chief’, 08 Jul 2016:

Washington (AFP) - Four police officers were killed, at least seven were wounded and a civilian was also hurt late Thursday when two snipers opened fire during a protest in Dallas against police racial bias, authorities said.

City Police Chief David Brown said two gunmen shot at “police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally”, sparking an intense search for at least two suspects, adding that they had threatened to plant a bomb.

The Dallas Police Department tweeted a photograph of a man dressed in a camouflage shirt with an assault rifle slung over his shoulder.

“This is one of our suspects. Please help us find him!” the police department tweeted.

The suspects “have threatened to plant a bomb in the downtown area,” Brown told reporters.

The protests were part of demonstrations taking part in several cities against the fatal police shootings of African American men in Minnesota and Louisiana this week.

Brown initially said two of the officers were in surgery and three were in critical condition. The condition of the other officers was unclear.

An earlier toll had 10 officers shot, including three dead. Brown told reporters a civilian was also wounded.

“An intensive search for suspects is currently under way. No suspects are in custody at this time,” Brown said in a statement.

Brown said police had “cornered” one of the suspects, and warned that there may be more than two suspects.

Dallas police has reached out to federal law enforcement agencies for help—the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Several hundred people attended the Dallas rally, which ended just before the shots rang out around 9:00 pm (0200 GMT Friday), reports said.

Witnesses reported hearing dozens of gunshots that sounded like semi-automatic rifle fire. “The shots were coming from the roof,” a protester told KTVT television, a CBS affiliate.

Video posted online showed protesters marching when the shots rang out, scattering the crowd.

Police warned protesters to flee the area, saying the scene remained an active-shooter situation.

SWAT teams were deployed to the scene, reports said.

The situation

After the events involving the shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota on 7 July 2016, it had seemed that a significant flashpoint in the story of race relations in the United States had suddenly arrived, and it was a moment that would have served the interests of the Black Lives Matter movement primarily.

Video footage of a police officer of Asian or American Indian descent, having shot a 32 year old black school cafeteria worker named Philando Castile four times in his car, while he was reaching for his wallet to show his license and registration after having been pulled over for a driving with a broken rear brake light, had been posted all over the internet and was on the the verge of becoming part of a new master signifier in the discussion of violence and law enforcement in the United States.

Despite the officer being of Asian or American Indian descent, critical theorists would have framed the conversation as being one of institutional white supremacy which suffuses the police force as it is a gendarme of the accumulated wealth of the United States, which is characterised as a white power structure.

The video footage was all over the internet and was being viewed around the world.

Another case was a shooting that took place in Baton Rouge, Louisiana on 5 July 2016. A black man named Alton Sterling was killed by two white police officers as they fired four times into his body at point blank range outside a convenience store. It’s thought that it was a case of police responding to an anonymous call about someone threatening people with a gun outside the store, but it’s said that Sterling was only there by sheer chance at the time that the police arrived.

That incident was also recorded by several phone cameras held by bystanders, and also was seen around the world.

Together, those two stories had coalesced into a master signifier for ‘police injustice and systemic racism against African-Americans’, and they were stories in which the factual details of the shootings could not be used to disabuse people of the narrative being propagated by Black Lives Matter and certain elements of the liberal media establishment.

The outcome

At the time of the protests in Dallas, Texas, the narrative was unfolding, and people were of the belief that perhaps the state would be able to manage the situation with reconciliation attempts, as many Dallas police officers were reaching out to the African-American community in an attempt to promote ‘peace’ and avert further strife.

That was not to be, as the appearance of black snipers who began shooting policemen, and the setting of bombs, and the fact that the black protesters and demonstrators began cheering on international television when the shooting began, shattered the narrative before it had become settled, and tore up any chances of reconciliation, shifting the topic away from ‘police injustice caused by systemic racism’, and instead back toward ‘disproportionate black crime aimed toward police officers’.

The new developments in the story by AFP that I quoted at the beginning of this article, are now eclipsing all of the events of the past 48 hours.

It makes a person wonder, do African-Americans actually understand how to apply the lessons of Gramsci and Foucault, and do they actually understand Strategic Communications, or do they merely pretend to? African-Americans actually had full command of the narrative, but within 48 hours they have now done an incredibly kind service to their adversaries by completely ruining it for themselves.

All in all, it seems that the entire sequence of events could ultimately serve as an opportunity for white people in the United States to make the case for racial separatism, as it is increasingly obvious that the differing communities in the United States cannot live together in the same civic space without there being incessant outbursts of violence. Since the antagonistic contradictions cannot actually be resolved, it is clear that the only path to conflict cessation is one of racial separatism.

  “The Iran deal is one of the worst deals ever”

In regard to foreign affairs, it has looked to me like Trump has been empowered politically by a commitment to the neo-con agenda of undoing the Iran deal. Kumiko sees the domestic motivation of a second tier of Jewish money - concerned for their U.S. real estate holdings - and backing Trump accordingly; even while he “radically defies” the highest rungs of Jewish money.

In his latest radio show - 6 July 2016 - Metzger sees another motivation behind Trump.

TT has never advocated Trump, nor Hillary, of course, in any positive sense, maintaining that he will not vote. Though he had previously been relatively partial to Trump, seeing him as provoking a certain amount of chaos for Whites to take advantage of, he now holds that a vote for Trump is a vote for the system - in particular, that Trump is being used to secure the Republican base (implicit Whites) and as such to save the Republican party - which should not be saved since it has long been gaining and using White working class voters by means of dog whistles to minor cultural issues, while ultimately betraying them for international corporatist and Jewish interests.

Though I’d hate to see that evil woman Hillary become President because her opposition did not have enough support, I hate even more to endorse the system, its false choice and false opposition.

It is looking more and more as if initial hunches about Trump are true - that Republican insiders were merely pretending to hate him as a harbinger of great crisis to the Republican party - a crisis dramatized in this kind of ShowTime presentation - in order to reinvigorate the Republican base (i.e., implicit Whites) - exciting them with the idea that they are being rebellious and Trump is rebelliously standing up to the system…

      In fact, it is just the same old Democrat - Republican yin yang.

The “bleeding heart liberal” Democrats open borders and boundaries to muck-up any possibility for organized opposition - particularly an organized White middle, working or any White class, for that matter - and then after the mix has been unleashed upon the population to a sufficiently toxic extent, the Republicans are called-in to assert this mix as normal; they act into their role of asserting what it is to be a real American man, i.e., a strong, patriotic American civic nationalist - viz., one who sees any concern about being mixed-in with blacks and other races as betraying a sign of weak, effeminate nonsense, being ungrateful for the opportunity of the American dream, not an individually competent man who holds up to the competition; and of an un-American bent for old world or third world factionalism.

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        Rather, change its course and throw them overboard.

This article at The Right Stuff uses a metaphor that I have always liked, of Europe and its states as analogous to a ship and its compartments:

TRS, “For Europeans to Live, the EU Must Perish,” 5 July 2016:

      - Tom Paine

Think of the EU as a ship, its 28 member countries as compartments below the waterline, Europeans as passengers, Mohammedans and Africans as the sea around them. When the ship’s hull is breached, its rules (EU Freedom of Movement) require all hatches between compartments to remain open. (It is impossible to exclude anyone with EU papers from moving to another EU member except in extreme cases). Crazy but true.

While the ship’s crew could in theory protect passengers by closing hatches to contain flooding to one compartment, in practice the crew devotes its efforts to silencing the passengers’ “hydrophobia” as the sea pours in…

The article focuses too much on law change, however. That is an arduous and vastly insufficient answer to what we need: which is a compelling argument for mass deportation, a call emphatically understood, undertaken with the action of a flood of combined nationalist effort that would simply drag laws and bureaucracies along or bury them underfoot if they will not willingly comply to our will.

#NationalistDeporationists

I.e., rather than abandoning ship we ought change its course and throw them overboard.

Ten people suffered stab wounds and other injuries on Sunday after members of a white nationalist group that planned to rally outside the California state Capitol building in Sacramento clashed with a larger group of counter protesters, authorities said.

The fight broke out when about 30 members of the Traditionalist Worker Party gathering to rally around noon Sunday were met by about 400 counter-protesters, California Highway Patrol Officer George Granada said.

Alhough Jewish controlled media is granting the grandiose and misleading left cover of the name, “Traditionalist Worker Party,” and calling them a “white nationalist” organization, they are actually a right-wing group committed to Jesus and Christianity above all causes.

While having a preference to advocate for White faithful and Orthodox Christian Whites in particular, the group does cooperate with non-Christian White nationalists upon tacit agreement with “the alternative right”, viz., its big tent condition to rise above “little disagreements” - markedly about Jesus, Hitler, scientism or Jewish inclusion - i.e., anti-social positions in reaction to the Jewish organized left. And to the extent that “altrighters” accept their Christian agenda - with Matt Parrott and Matt Heimbach of “Tradyouth” being “Altright” insiders - they are a part of a makeshift bureaucratic clique and a big tent (tentosphere) concerned to discourage attention to Majorityrights’ platform.

In the meantime, the YKW will grant coverage to groups and individuals such as Heimbach and Parrott inasmuch as they act into an altercast as right wingers, allowing them to do what right wingers are wont to do - react as useful dupes for Jewish and objectivitst interests, associating White Nationalism with the stigma of anti-social behavior; their search for foundations beyond social accountability being futile and counterproductive to White interests; all the while they tend to mistake and accept definitions of accountability and social justice for the Jewish trammel of language games and anti-White rhetoric.

Although they had a permit to protest last Sunday in front of the Sacramento, California Courthouse, “The Chairman and Vice Chairman” of “The Traditionalist Worker Party” enlisted “The Golden State Skinheads” as security for their rally.

They said that they had planned the Sunday event in conjunction with the Golden State Skinheads “to make a statement about the precarious situation our race is in” after “brutal assaults” at Donald Trump events in California.

       
        Matt Heimbach

“We stood our ground. We will be back,” The L.A. Times reported “Traditionalist Worker Party Chairman” Matthew Heimbach as saying - he added that “in the clash, one of their marchers had been stabbed in an artery and six of the counter-protesters had also been stabbed.”

Vice chairman Matt Parrott, who was not present at the Sacramento rally, blamed “leftist radicals” for instigating the violence. Videos and photos of the rally posted on social media showed the white nationalists vastly outnumbered by protesters from anti-fascist groups.

ABC News also reported that “Videos from the melee posted on social media showed mounted police officers dispersing a group of mostly young people, some with their faces covered, while some throw stones toward a man holding a stick and being shielded by police officers in riot gear.

Of the injured, two were taken to the hospital with critical stab wounds, but they were expected to survive, officials said.

Although it is difficult to get past the YKW media negative conditioning and by contrast to convince White Nationalists of the utility of a White Left Nationalist perspective, its utility remains, rather like a cat landing on its feet every time, lining up enemies, elite traitors and rank and file as well. The White Left Nationalist perspective maintains its stability, normalization, sustainability and thus adherence in social praxis, with key accountability from elites and rank and file.

I gleaned and refined this perspective from Metzger - who is entirely relevant to this discussion as it was he who organized American skinheads after the skinhead movement germinated in England in the 1980’s. Metzger also found out the hard way, as did many, about the inherent instability and perfidy of the right as manifest in provocation, reaction and turncoats upon such tactics. He lost his house and business and had to file for bankruptcy for a prosecution of “vicarious liability” after a skinhead tenuously associated with him killed a black man in another state, hundreds of miles away.

With Metzger’s central experience and racial conviction, I was able to reject the obvious stupidity of right wing associations with racial advocacy and to overcome the normal aversion to the Jewish abused term, “the left”, as a mere diversion from its nifty organizing function, including racial organization.

I can see the pattern of what he and David (14 Words) Lane began to describe as the perfidy of “the right wing.” I can also see the pattern behind and why Jewish interests want to dissuade us from a White left identity.

And once there, one can see more clearly the perfidy of acting into an altercast as right wing.

Heimbach and Parrott might not want to learn from those with more experience, but they should have known better anyway than to be involved with violent street altercations. In fact, even an act such as this - Heimbach shoving a person - can bring about a charge of assault under The U.S. legal system; YKW attorneys will be particularly vigilant for any such opportunity to affix “hate charges” given that the woman he shoved was black….add to that bringing skinheads and weapons into the occasion and you are asking to render yourself unto the legal system, useless to our cause. There will come a time when we can re-write the laws but that time is not now and they should have known better than to react into the altercast.

TT says, “stay out of the right!”

Though going under the grandiose ostensible left cover and misnomer of “The Traditionalist Worker Party”, their right wing organization is committed to Jesus Christ above all. Matt Parrott has told Majorityrights that he will cooperate provisionally with White Nationalists and other ethnonationalists, though ultimately, he advocates for Christian rule to be imposed upon all people. As it is derived from Jewish interests and not grounded in the relativizing and normalizing realm of White praxis, their ideology will be inherently unstable and susceptible to Jewish manipulation. The altrighters seek to protect their pet anti social projects, Jesus, Hitler, Jews, scientism, etc; while attempts to ground White advocacy in accountability to praxis and genetics have been met by the Altright and Parrott, in particular, with bureaucratic imperviousness - Parrott also stating that he believes the Euro DNA Nations to be “wrong at every turn.”

Welcome, welcome to the theatre of ‘I told you so’!

In my previous post on Brexit, I said:

Majorityrights / Kumiko Oumae, ‘The coming battle over the meaning of Brexit.’, 26 Jun 2016 (emphasis added):

The European Union’s leaders really don’t want to sacrifice their mass migration agenda or their austerity agenda in order to save the union itself. They want to have their cake and eat it, and the only way they can do that is to try to convince the broad mass of the European population that the root problem is somehow actually the opposite of what it really is.

So instead, everyone will be told that somehow the reason for Brexit is because the EU itself somehow stoked ‘Islamophobic tendencies’ by implicitly approving of [those tendencies]—astonishingly—because it somehow didn’t prostrate itself to the needs and concerns of Turks as well as Arabs and North Africans quite enough for their liking, and that by not prostrating itself it somehow gave the signal that it was okay to not prostrate oneself, which somehow led to Brexit.

Sounds impossible? Oh, it’s possible. [...]

Today:

Sky News, ‘Turkey And EU Begin Brussels Accession Talks’, 30 Jun 2016 (emphasis added):

A senior Turkish politician has said right-wing extremism is threatening “European civilisation” and that following Brexit, the EU needs a “fresh start with a fresh vision”, which must include Turkey.

Omer Celik, Turkey’s chief negotiator in the process of the country’s proposed accession to the EU, also condemned the “anti-Turkish sentiments” expressed during the recent referendum campaign.

He was speaking at a media conference in Brussels following a meeting between EU officials and a delegation from Turkey that also included the country’s foreign, finance and justice ministers.

The substance of the meeting was the opening of the latest phase of convergence reforms, known as ‘chapters’, that a state must fulfil before accession to the EU.

So far, of the 35 chapters that must be completed and ratified, 16 have been opened but only one - on science research - has been closed.

During the media conference, the Turkish delegation exchanged polite, but pointed barbs with EU officials.

Dutch foreign minister Bert Koenders and EU commissioner Johannes Hahn both called on Turkey to address concerns over “short-comings” on human rights, the rule of law, freedom of expression and the independence of the judiciary, indicating these were major sticking points to progress.

Mr Celik responded by saying it was Europe - not just Turkey - that needed to change.

“Without sorting out its problems it cannot give hope to its members or its neighbours… it needs a fresh start with a fresh vision. Such a start will have to include Turkey,” he said.

“There are extreme right wing movements, there is anti-semitism and racism. These are the main threats against European civilisation,” Mr Celik added.

Turkey joining the EU became a major topic of debate in the UK referendum, with the Leave campaign regularly voicing their alarm about the prospect of visa-free travel for “79 million” Turkish citizens - a point dismissed by David Cameron and Remain campaigners, who insisted that Turkey was “decades” away from joining.

Mr Celik condemned the tone of the debate in the UK, saying anti-Turkish rhetoric masked deeper problems across Europe.

“The extreme right are expressing themselves with anti-Turkish sentiment but these are all products of the same mentality,” he said.

“The mainstream politics should stand up to this, not be weakened in the face of the extremist movements.

“When mainstream parties use these arguments against Turkey, they are making a mistake, they have to take responsibility, they have to stop this tendency.”

No. We won’t stop saying unkind things about Turkey. Not ever.