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Both are necessary for coordination of interests between people, but incommensurabilty is the more important idea - White Post Modern idea - to have people understand now in order to overcome the ravages of modernity’s emphasis as it instigates narcissistic comparison.

It occurs to me that a snag in regard to getting Whites on board with the concept of White Post Modernity has to do with the charge of there being “no moral standards, let alone universal standards” by which to compare cultures and people - hence the infamous hyper-cultural-relativism, the no-account mishmash, “ironic” da-da of the YKW promoted notion of “post modernity” - a shallow, demeaning and destructive thing indeed.

Like so many disputes, however, this one occurs as a result of misunderstandings on a taken-for-granted level. That is, I took for granted my understanding that there is a level of comparison which is universal and necessary to coordination, but did not emphasize it; so the taken for granted of others, that “post modernity” admits of no standards of comparison was probably being presumed of my discussion of White post modernity as well.

To protect the discreetness of peoples and cultures against the universalizing ravages of modernity - of which anti-racism and the prejudice against prejudice are instrumental - I have drawn attention to the fact that people and cultures may be qualitatively different, evolved for niche functions that are quite adequate within their niche, the “paradigm” that is their human ecology within human and pervasive ecology more broadly.

White Post Modernity is drawing on Thomas Khun’s* Structure of Scientific Revolutions to sensitize our people to differences that make a difference because overcoming modernity’s universalizing blender, particularly as it is weaponized against us by YKW, is by far our most urgent need.

Particularly when they’ve got Whites reacting to the abuses of “post modernity” by rendering of false, obnoxious and insulting quantifying comparisons, “against equality”, between niches and groups of people, which can unnecessarily generate conflict and disorganization, not only against non-Whites but also among Whites, it’s been important to emphasize the concept of commensurability/ incommensurability:

That is, you aren’t especially asking whether a person or group is universally and quantifiably better or worse, but rather whether their rule structures mesh and harmonize in a systemic position or whether they conflict; whether they qualitatively fit somewhere within a group system; and if not in your group system, which group system? (by inference, if they do not fit in any group system, but destroy them all, you begin looking at them as a threat of ecological runaway - potential cataclysm, a universalizing cataclysm that does not respect important differences).

However, in the emphasis of this important point to facilitate the advocacy of the difference of our distinction by its best, most broadly acceptable means, I may have not emphasized enough the idea that the concept of White Post Modernity draws a distinction between incommensurability and incomparability.

Just because systems are incommensurable does not necessarily mean that you cannot compare them on at least some primitive levels.

Comparability and InComrability would be the universal paradigm by which we could discern and compare interests that would be moral concerns legitimate to any people.

This is very important because this universal language would allow us to coordinate our differences and our interests in maintaining our human species, i.e., between those people who are not so egregious as to advocate the destruction of our species, our differences.

However, when talking about “depth and shallowness”, we must not get caught in modernist linearity of comparability being “the” deepest philosophical concern. Our similarities are a less critical matter at this point whereas the concern of our differences is crucial.

Incommensurabilty and commensurability are the differences that make a profound difference among groups and between them on a level of human and pervasive ecology. This is at least as deep a philosophical concern, perhaps deeper, but certainly it is a criteria that we must emphasize now - not just our universal similarities.

Comparabilities can be arrived-at fairly easily as a result of the internal relation of our co-evolutions (plural, deliberate).

However, the differences may be more difficult to discern (and uphold for the broad system they are a part of being beyond ready purview) and where not difficult to discern, may be stigmatic to articulate and act upon as a result of anti-racism, the weaponization of modernity’s universalizing, objectivist prejudice against prejudice.

And to overcome the universalizing narcissism of modernity and the destruction that may result for its blindness or oblivion to important differences between people, its disregard of differences that can result in their destruction, their using similar universalizing disregard of our differences (“deep down we’re all the same”) resulting in our destruction, or blow back against us for our naive/narcissistic oblivion to important differences which will not simply be put asunder, coordination between groups also requires that we promulgate the concept of commensurability/incommensurability, not only comparability/incomparability.

* I am aware that Khun was ((())).

Over valuation of objectivity and its attendant rational blindness.

Stefan Molyneux@StefanMolyneux: If you promote multiculturalism

Without promoting objective rationality

You set the stage

For civil war

@MatthewParrott: “Objectivity” is just a euphemism for what smart white males generally agree on. It doesn’t exist where we don’t exist, and is not somehow integral to the universe or something. You’re arguing for white supremacy.

@StefanMolyneux Replying to @MatthewParrott @contrastatist: Hahaha

@daniel.sienkiewicz (Majorityrights): I don’t quite agree with Matt either. While the quest for objectivity, valuation of impartiality for the solid warrant of findings based on tests irrespective of prejudice and aversion does not really exist apart from people (and their interests, thus it does not exist purely) and Whites are evolved to value it more than others (evolved more to take on Augustinian, i.e., natural, non-human challenges), and it does yield science and tech marvels, the power that goes along with it, it is a predilection that leaves us somewhat naive for the rational blindness it requires, thus susceptible to systemic dissolution (not necessarily superior then), as the quest of objectivity is virtually the opposite of prejudice against peoples and aversion (to creatures, things, physical, systemic consequences) - to people who perhaps warrant prejudicial treatment; creatures, things, physical and systemic consequences that may warrant aversion.

If objectivity is part and parcel of White supremacy as it is according to Matt, he might observe that it is also part and parcel of White degeneracy and systemic dissolution.

White supremacy is certainly not an objective claim. But to be at our best and reconstruct our social systemic homeostasis against those groups more unabashedly self interested (evolved more in conflict with other peoples rather than nature), thus willing to take advantage of us, as e.g., Africans might, to the point of manichean trickery even, as e.g., Muslims and YKW might, Whites must sufficiently overcome this prejudice against prejudice. That, in order to be accountable to our own group, human ecology, which will allow us in turn to coordinate accountability with other groups, e.g. African and Middle Eastern, and pervasive ecology.     

Rather, quest for objectivity is virtually the opposite of prejudice - it is prejudice against prejudice. Quest for objectivity - pure warrants above or within nature, below human nature - is virtually the opposite of social accountability, a “that’s-just-the-way-it-isness” as such, which paves the way for war.

Objectivity is a tool the findings of which are to provide feedback to be gauged against the calibration of our relative interests as a group system and that of other group systems and systems broadly.

Nominations for the Sacred…

What responsibilities merit consecration in a new religion for European peoples?

While we can maintain unflinchingly that religions are formed between people and not from divine revelation, it is clear that we need a religion in the sense of the semi-transcendent capacity to connect with the patterns of our time in memorial and systemic excellence as a people, in genus and species, with reverence in episodic enactments to help lift us to that realm, beyond demoralization, the uninspiring defectiveness of a large percentage of our people, and the clear imperfection of even those who are excellent, on balance; to guide the relative interests of our people and our patterns as its specific and primary concern, as opposed to the rational blindness of maintained objectivism’s disinterest, the naivete and narcissism of its sheer modernist universalizing, oblivious to the intransigence with which other peoples will thereby take advantage of us, abiding by their traditions and inherited ways, looking after theirs and claiming the moral high ground, connection to sacrament, the means to handle sex and marriage “justly”, while flouting the demoralizing upshot of our secularized modernist fall-out - where not seduced and wrecked by modernity themselves. The question then arises what forms and ways are our responsibility to treat religiously?

While the YKW’s media control goes back (J.B.) much further than the days of broadcast media but has in fact tyrannized the west with threats of hell and damnation, claiming with that their mono god as provider of THE moral order, the truth is that there are other moral orders, better, more appropriate moral orders (if you can call Christianity moral, which I would not) for Whites and that moral orders among people are unavoidable at least in some rudimentary form - there will always be some acts that are Prohibited, some that are Obligatory and some that are Legitimate. Better that they be explicit and deliberate, while not so elaborate as to inhibit the authentic human freedom that they should facilitate.

We may be assured that Hermeneutics is the very European vehicle which lifts us above the arbitrary and contradictory of what is merely apparent in the empirical realm in momentary and episodic evaluation, facilitating the liberation from mere facticity, allowing us to be free from the tangled, contradictory, overly limiting or runaway logics, freeing us of no-account scientism, brute might-makes-right arguments among other such nonsense, while indeed facilitating the return to empirical verification as need be - thus, also freeing us from speculative nonsense which is of no account to the union of our people. It is the means to bring us back from Cartesian detachment and estrangement - whether held to be beyond nature or in natural fallacy below human nature - but rather into the authentic being, heeding the anti-Cartesian prompt to re-engagement and holding fast, Dasein (there-being) and MidtDasein (there-being amidst your people).

And in hermeneutics we might engage the wisdom of the language, its etymology in a couple of key instances.

Our systemic dissolution as a distinct people is a result of liberalism, whether induced from our own or imposed upon us more forcibly.

Here a play on the word deliberate works nicely in two senses. In the “de” of de-liberate, we are freeing ourselves from the unaccountability of liberal transgression by its arbitrary pseudo objectivity; and secondly we are deliberately, that is, by at least a modicum of asserted prerogative, deliberately choosing loyalty, taking advantage of the consolation of agency, but holding fast to the belief in our emergent form(s) (as GW would rightly insist), given that there is the possibility of our liberal transgression, specifically, our capacity to breed out with other races. In acknowledging consciously, with our brethren, where the important lines of unionization are to be drawn and not transgressed for pain of ostracism, we are social constructionists, if even only as to how the facts of our differences count (e.g. important to the point of sacred), but thereby facilitate not only agency and accountability, but personal and group coherence, warrant, human and pervasive ecology.

As we must take the White post modern turn away from universalism and scientism, we avail ourselves of our hemeneutic facility, to dwell on the profundity of our emergent forms as GW and Heidegger wisely insist; and to liberate us from the inauthenticity, arbitrariness and confusion of mere facticity, into the authenticity of coherence, which, again, provides for accountability, agency, warrant, human and pervasive ecology.

And we focus on a second word, re-invoking the etymology of religion, it’s implications, the “ligaments”, i.e., rules which re-attach our people to our realm, our union, through accountability.

...an accountability to our social capital accrued and passed on through vast history and struggle.

...a social accountability and indebtedness for their abilities that liberals/right wingers want to make short shrift of in the narrow warrant of pseudo-objectivity, in the desire to believe that they are as singularly responsible for their success as conceivable…inspired in hubris to disingenuously see their good fortune in more and more Cartesian detachment from social interaction, indebtedness, construction, or naively accepting this detachment from social accountability through fatuous claims by their moral overlords of a personal relation to god that would sanction needless destruction, or “liberating” authority of “natural” law so primitive and arbitrary that it is fit only for a creature headed for rapid and deserved extinction.

And whether through hubris or reaction (often in anxious, white knuckle grasping for purely objective, unassailable warrant against vast YKW rhetorical abuse in their interests in the relative realms of praxis) as you continually detach as a first person, from second persons and more and more from you identity in the third person, going either Cartesian route, whether beyond nature in supposed communion with god and principled disinterest in human purpose, or in brute law of nature, again, to the point of disinterest in human relational concern, you become susceptible in your naivete, or disingenuous hubris, to machinations of YKW weaponization.

Thus it has come to us that we must overcome the estrangement and deliberately look into this re-attachment, the religiosity, a religious attitude toward our people, our relative interests and relative place in the world and its people - the means to coordinate with it and them while fostering ours. We deliberately pursue warranted assertability of our people’s relative interests as opposed to leaving it to the happenstance of universal objectivity - with that foolery, to the deliberate machinations and ruin by others, not so universally inclined of good will and common interest despite what their “god” might say.

Nevertheless, there will always be acts which are Prohibited, Obligatory and Legitimate; the question is, though, how do we elevate these rules to a structuring beyond the arbitrary, in protection of our pattern from the disingenuous and the naive, who would divert and rupture the relative interests of our social systemic homeostasis, our union, The White Class?

Perhaps it does begin with attention to the episode, specifically, episodes that are vital to our pattern. It is particularly important to elevate the vital moment and episode to a level of our relationships and cultural pattern in reverence for what is not always immediately apparent, as we are a people whose excellence tends to be more sublimated and subtly manifest in societal pattern - a B2 Stealth Bomber and ensuing explosions while manifesting power indeed, do not necessarily have the personal immediacy of a slam dunk or end zone dance, Jim Hendrix, Sly and the Family Stone or Thelonius Monk wailing on their instruments, the momentary istantiation of black bio-power or the tropism of high contrast taboo; the sometimes flush of beauty in other races’ or mixed race women which can have our dissuasion appear as jealousy to the young and inexperienced, rather than what it more fundamentally is - a respect for our pattern and its distinctly human kind of magnificence.

What responsibilities merit consecration in a new religion for European peoples? Nominations for the Sacred:

These issues can be nominated for vital constituents of a new religion for White people.

- The Borders and bounds of an ethnonation/people
- Ancestor Day, reverence of the ancestors.
- Sex/monogamy (as a choice which is a necessary option for group homeostasis and morale)
- The 14 Words
- Human ecology, pervasive ecology
- Our distinct kinds (genus and species).
- The optimal over the maximal; viz. the optimal sublimation of European manhood.

Reverence for these observed, ceremonial, commemorated responsibilities can tap into the hermeneutic (narrative) capacity to take the mere moment and episode to semi-transcendence to the pattern - while anybody can be said to be amazing for the fact that they manifest survival through evolution to this point, invocation of semi-transcendence is a necessity given the fact that most of our people are less than great relatively speaking and those who are better than average, are imperfect; therefore, we need semi transcendence to tap into the pattern to lift us beyond pessimism and cynicism - to tap into the broad relational, systemic, time in memorial pattern, seeing it into the future.

While it is my hope that commentators might contribute to the list of vital constituents for proposed consecration in service of European social systemic homeostasis, I realize that not endorsing Hitler, Jesus and Jews has made Majorityrights and myself outcasts of the establishment, therefore the naturally participatory and supportive will find themselves in uncomfortable circumstance.

For now, I’m going to round-out this post by cutting and pasting below the fold my remarks on MJOLNIR as it discussed the Notre Dame burning, its having brought these issues into relief…

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From Age of Treason Blogspot:

“The Tautology of Jewing”

Captainchaos
23 APRIL 2019 AT 11:46 PM
Why is commenting disabled on the new post?

Tanstaafl
24 APRIL 2019 AT 1:56 AM
Unintentional. Fixed now.

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And from Majorityrights:

Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 01 May 2019 23:06 | # 3

Daniel Sperglord and Mangina-in-black enjoy pounding each other’s gay asses!

DanielS:

Captainchaos, while you are trying to deride mancinblack as effeminate for supporting me and MR, why don’t you instead question the wisdom of those who expect Whites to drop all concerns for every other antagonism to our system and attack the ‘pathogen’  ....markedly, it is not going to help us to separate and achieve autonomy from the pathogen if we do not also address our naive susceptibility to the pathogen or deliberate, traitorous introduction of it to our system that happens typically through vulnerabilities and entry by liberal/right wing thin or even pseudo warranted objectivism; also typically a reaction to the contradictory language games that YKW are playing in order to keep our people associated with the right, its rational blindness, mystification, confusion, short shrift of social accountability (viz. even to our people) and with it, disruption of our social systemic homeostasis? - obviously one of the chief aims of the pathogen is to break through systemic defense. Thus, it is obviously valid and important to look at our system and its vulnerabilities.

In short, it is going to be hard to take-on an enemy full throttle while you’ve got people confused, thinking you’re doing wrong, or naively “clearly” thinking that you are wrong because they are abiding by right wing/liberal (their lefts are our liberalism, rupturing our unionization when pitted against our bounds) language games, or outright stabbing us in the back because right wing pseudo objectivity serves to “excuse” why it is that they take the liberties or pay-offs afforded, and “why” we are getting destroyed in their abiding language games as “just a fact of nature” that they have no part in aiding and abetting.

I’ve been looking at this problem since the early 90s, and started to bring it to a double entry with the YKW as the chief problems to our social systemic homeostasis in 2009 ..and have been cultivating it since.

Now, regarding “pathological altruism” (the Taylor, MacDonald thing, circa, what? 2011? I never paid much attention to it) I only suggested that it may have been their naive attempt, even a misdirected attempt to look at our part, as it would likely be (misdirected), still caught up in right wing objectivism by its very means of “description and diagnosis”, but to suggest that I was part of misdirection and not taking the YKW seriously enough because I also believe it is necessary to address vulnerabilities and other antagonism (which will usually lead to their being organized to imposition upon us by YKW, true), and the fact that I recognize serious errors in Hitler’s philosophy and regime (misdirected and misdirecting headlong into disaster for Europeans, as his right wing premises would), are things that I, and Majorityrights, deserve credit for in service of European peoples, not harassment and denunciation.

And isn’t it a perfect example, wouldn’t Trump’s vanity just have him lap-up objectivist flattery and have the YKW walk right into his system, knocking his daughter up, directing his campaign to undo the Iran Deal, get him elected, and move right into Oval Office meetings to set his administration’s agenda?

Who The English Are: correcting the definition and the warrant by Laura Towler

Updating DNA Nations thesis to focus on practical discriminatory prerogatives based on DNA correspondence rather than territory.

It’s been a while since I’ve re-visited the Euro DNA Nations article, and upon discussion, moving through the article with Ecce lux, I’ve come to realize that it is premature to talk about states, counties, nations and exclusion on their basis.

At this point, establishing a common ground and coordination in DNA is what we need to focus on. And with that, for example, if one wants to discriminate for/or against, say, “communists” or Christians, they may do so in correspondence with their DNA associations.

It was premature for me to say to Ecce that his wanting to discriminate against ‘communists’ is a matter for county and state prerogatives. At this point, rather, it is through correspondence of genetic grouping that we might decide which ideologies, religions, etc., that we do not want to associate with - in Ecce’s case, he and his genetic fellows would choose not to associate with those deemed communist.

There is no need to be so inflexible and put-off that kind of choice for the laborious and speculative prospect of organizing a county or state to your liking. That would, in fact, belie the nifty facility of DNA coordination as the fundamental basis, defeating much of its purpose - one of its best features being its flexibility and immediately ready implementation.

In fact, I’m going to add this remark as an addendum to the original article.

Part 3a audio:The increased one up position of puerile females within the disorder of modenity; empowered and pandered to from all angles, their incentive escalates to incite liberalism and genetic competition

I’m going to continue this in additional posts, primarily because I was running out of the text space allowed by our posting configurations. I date this date prior to the earlier post so that it reads in its proper sequential order -

“I don’t have to tell you about the tyranny of patterns, that is the rubric under which we meet. What you may not know is that you have to accept them.” - Bateson

In this disorder of modernity, resulting of the rupture of classificatory bounds, her increased one up position emerges as it is pandered-to from all angles and with that her predilections are confirmed overly and prematurely…

In this position pandered to thus, she can become a powerful social gatekeeper despite her ignorance. She sees herself gaining in power (albeit short sighted, prior to the empathy that she would develop for the vulnerability of children of her own kind in a stable order), her most base inclination to incite genetic competition as a female (otherwise sublimated to a more Augustinian level - sperm after egg and so on) is in a charmed loop and becomes normalized - her hyperbolic liberalism institutionalized through her gate keeping auspices. Solicited and pandered to in this addressive position, she can become overly confident and articulate of her predilections; and as she talked-to, has support (e.g., can make her way up the academic ladder) she becomes a powerful and brutally liberal gatekeeper - don’t like it? She’ll call in the thugs, the anti racist YKW, whomever.

The disorder of modernity creates an atavistic circumstance where it is hard to trust and have patience for the yield of protracted patterns wherein the best tally of Whites and Asians is to be found; and this circumstance not only bumps-up the contextual force of puerile female selection, it merges to favor the atavistic selection of blacks.

Part 3b Audio: I realized belatedly that this text needed cleaning up (sorry about that) when I went to do the audio; but I have smoothed it out with clarifications and transitions. This part discusses a history of YKW redcaping “the left” as “liberalism” to Whites

And while the masculine qualities - confidence, bravery, assertion, strength, decisiveness - are certainly good and necessary in balance, these qualities can be over selected to the detriment of empathy, survey, cooperation, sublimation, intellectual query - these later qualities being of the male perspective, the bias of what they value in females; and isn’t it rather a shame to not favor that bias.

But that’s not what’s happening as the selective predilections of puerile females are as one-up as they are in modernity.

And her selective predilections are on a self-reconstructing loop as she is pandered-to from all angles and incentivized to maintain her powerful position as liberal gatekeeper with continued incitement to genetic competition.

Confirmation of the predilections of her perspective as it values, rather over-values, confidence, hyper-assertiveness, intrepid masculinity, impervious and undaunted no matter what, through incitement to genetic competition to the most brutal natural fallacy and universal maturity has one basically describing - well, you’ve just described a black man…. to the interests of black men and to the detriment of White men, their predilections and the more sublimated society that they would create.

...it becomes/became like a litmus test from her in initial interaction episodes: are you a racist, are you ok with blacks?

And modernity’s rupturing and short circuiting of patterns in favor of moment and episode makes worse the incentive and power structure for White men.

Taking our hermeneutic survey back to appropriate a more scientific, working hypothesis of black evolution here:

While evolving in the warmer climates where resources were abundant, shelter and forethought of seasonal deprivation not as much the obstacle, sublimation was less important. As hunter gatherers without as much need for cooperation, forethought and care, a hypergamous style of selection of the “alpha male” developed. Males were being rewarded for their ability to fight other males and assert themselves with females, not as much for their cooperation and ingenuity with regard to the elements and child rearing; R selection prevailed - having more babies and taking less care of them was more the birthing strategy. No need to elaborate, black behavior readily exemplifies results that would lend credibility to this oft suggested hypothesis.

But the predicament for Whites is worse than that as right-wingers and liberals have imposed them upon us (and if you think that slavery wasn’t a right wing thing, you are absurd).

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Part 4a audio: A note on being against “equality” before talking about strategies for our social systemic homeostasis. Note, the image was accidentally put up sideways, but the image is arbitrary anyway, while the audio and text is the point, so I might not bother to fix the image.

Before I begin Part 4, I need to make a preliminary note about one major red cape that I’d neglected to mention - that being equality/inequality red caping sameness and difference.

I’d mentioned that equality and inequality was redcaping the issue of commensurate and incommensurate logics of meaning and action; and that remains true and important with regard to distinguishing paradigms and niches that should not be subject to false comparison.

But there is the simpler matter of “inequality/equality” red caping sameness and difference - as in qualitative sameness and difference; markedly, being evolved for different aims, at least in evolutionary context and thus, its not being entirely sagacious to apply a singular, quantifying comparison of equality / inequality across the board THE universal merit lest one hazard not only those on the short end of the stick but one’s own where other criteria become relevant.

I’ve discussed these matters so often - and have been gas-lit so often by obnoxious right wingers determined to hang on to the claim that “THE ESSENTIAL MATTER OF THE LEFT IS ALL ABOUT EQUALITY”, that I’d forgotten to mention it because I’m a bit tired of it and there is the unconscious wish to not be too repetitious even though a fundamental issue hasn’t been driven home.

Anybody who argues that our enemies are the left and the left is all about equality should shut up.

It sounds bad (elitist) to our people and our adversaries to chase that red cape and it is not nearly sophisticated enough to stave off vain, narcissistic and false comparisons that can backfire; whereas the qualitative differences of niche theory and the notion of commensurate/ incommensurate niches and paradigms are far more likely to facilitate coordination rather than provoking reciprocally escalating diatribe.

Part 4b audio: Conclusion/wrapping up

I recognized a red cape being prepared where a tribal professor took issue with Thomas Khun’s notion of commensurability/ incommensurability and its potential application to the social sciences: a good and important idea for our social organization and defense was being readied for red caping and misdirection.

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Systematizing our resistance.

To achieve this, I’ve set out a limited number of problems in our way in step 1.
Now for step 2:

2) Corrective Measures for Europeans/Whites

A) Unionization and other good things from the left vs its misrepresentation to Whites as liberalism.

B) The DNA Nations

C) Re-tooling Maslow’s Heirarchy of Needs/Motives to effect White social systemic homeostasis.

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