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Polish vs Nazi anti-Semitism: Poles sought nationalist separatism; Nazis sought nationless race war.
Here’s Fredo, the Aryan overman - or is he the ghost of Armenia, which Hitler suggested as an example of genocides that would be forgotten once a war of annihilation was long completed?
In recent months I’ve had the misfortune to have been confronted by an idiot going by the handle “ovfuckyou.” I did not seek him out. I found myself encountered by him in circumstances where people with overlapping (White Nationalist) concerns thought it might be constructive to “debate” him and his idea that WN should rally under Hitler and his programmatic leadership. As I have said many times, Majorityrights is a platform that plainly rejects that idea; it rather functions as recourse for people who are able to see the obvious - that the people of today are not responsible for the World Wars, and all reasonable European peoples should be able to rally and coordinate under the rubric of ethnonationalism (while diaspora can be coordinated by the DNA Nations concept), but not all Europeans will be able to rally under Hitler and his program, quite the opposite. Thus, while there was obvious provocation from Jewry (unless we ascribe to the absurd position that Germans were ex-nihilo violent en mass) we reject the program of trying to redeem Hitler on balance and to engage in elaborate attempts to justify or deny his bad judgments and misdeeds. These are such obvious and easy points to make by means of numerous references that I don’t like to discuss the issues, as I have no desire to lay guilt trips or stir up animosity among present day Europeans, for whatever side of WWII their ancestors were on. Hence, I have endeavored to post reference material to state in as brief and conciliatory a manner as possible, why it is that White Nationalism should Not try to redeem Hitler and Nazism as proponents of White Nationalism; they are rather significantly divisive and stigmatizing influences where adhered to the extent that an idiot like ovfuckyou does. Sure ov is falling out with former White associates (e.g., people calling themselves “the gas station”). The right is inherently unstable. Typically, he’s talking to Jews now, of course - because they want to maintain the association of Hitler and WN. It’s divide and conquer. ovfuckyou unabashedly identifies with the swastika. It is one thing to say, “ok, Hitler and the Nazis had their reasons, and they had some things right”... but if one is to exercise 20/20 hindsight the place to find it is not in Nazi propaganda. Having gotten myself lured into testing “debate” with ovfuckyou (accompanied by a few other Nazophiles) because he was hanging-out with Norvin, whom I hope to help around into a more stable position (his association with ov is broken, so that’s good, at least for the time being), I endeavored to explain the perspective of the nations between The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, viz. Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, and Czech. Understanding the perspective of these nations goes far to debunk an argument critical to Nazi apologists, i.e., that “Hitler was acting defensively against a Soviet invasion.” Further debunking the Nazi position is to show that territorial concessions required of Germany by the Treaty of Versailles and St. Germain were not wholly arbitrary and without justification. It is apparent why, at this point, ovfuckyuou and friends started to shout over me, talking in mock Jewish voices, saying that I was whining about things (whining? I don’t even like talking about this history ..if anyone is whining it is them and if anyone should be complaining about the war, it is the victims - including the Germans - of Hitler’s hair-brained program). He’s been making the rounds in what appears to be The Regnery Circus 2.0 While I can kind of understand Norvin and a few other newbies, especially German Americans coming up through American right wing auspices, not being quite ready to be finished with ov’s angle, he’s been propped up, making the circuit on other White advocacy platforms, with people who’s intelligence and audience I have some regard for otherwise, and whose platforms overlap Majorityrights in significant ways - should be entirely; hence, to simply walk away from them is not on order. After the mishap with the debate proposal by Norvin, which demonstrated that I ought not bother bringing the good-willed Per Nordin let alone the consummate professional, Dr. Christian Lindner, into the mudslinging of Ov, I found myself in a hangout with him, Claire Khaw and Church of Entropy. We were both opposed to Church of Entropy, no need to go into details - but that and other temporary alignments with ov caused me to let my guard down a bit when he found his way onto Eccelux streams. When people are as apparently intelligent as Eccelux I have difficulty suspending disbelief that they can be blinded to the obvious. Part of Ecce’s blindness may stem from fairly commercial aspirations. One can say that we need to get our voice out there, but then is it our voice when a litmus test is put in place that we represent ourselves by means of eye rolling right wing perfidy? There seems to be something like a Regnery circus 2.0 in re-formation. The Regnery perspective was the structural backing of The Alt-Right. Richard Spencer was a central figure and apparently remains. Litmus tests were in order to join the club: an anti social identity - Nazi sympathy, German supremacism, Christianity, scientism, right wing elitism generally - including Jews if sufficiently Germanophilic. Richard Spencer once said that we have to make sure that people are right on the “PQ”, the Polish question, and if they are not, they need to be ostracized. He added, “there’s not going to be your little Poland.” Well, why not? Why not “little Poland” and “little Germany”? Apparently because Spencer is not an ethnonationalist, he’s an imperialist surpremacist who wishes for a Molotiv-Ribbentrop Pact 2. The Rengery perspective is not simply Gemanophilic, though it is that, it is not simply Nazophilic, though it is that. It is tolerant of pagans and other non Christians but it prefers Christians. It’s tolerant of Jews, will even include them in the big tent if they’re against “the left” and more particularly, if they are Germanophilic Jews, added points if they do apologetics for Nazi Germany or Holocaust deniers. The Regnery Circus platform was The Voice of Reason Broadcasting Network a few years back. Now defunct, the circus functions through a few Youtube channels. Josh Neal shows all the hallmarks of being a focal point for its rounds, many of the same ironic combination of Nazi apologetics and Jews/those who believe that Jews should be included in orchestrating White advocacy. Recently, Josh was talking to Brett Stevens - the guy and his site, “Amerika,” are clearly shills for Jewish interests. Ovfuckyuou is playing the Carolyn Yeager role of pure Nazi. I know, I know, it’s 4D chess, the Rubix Cube. Interestingly, in his last talk with Eccelux (and Faustian Spirit), ovfuckyou had the nerve to say that ‘there’s a void resulting from White people being cast into a binary decision between liberalism or Nazism’ when in fact, I’ve been offering a clear alternative to that for ten years now - while ovfuckyou talked and blustered over me when I attempted to articulate this position. Here are some of the perfidies that ovfuckyou tried to put across as “argument”: When I said that I wash my hands of coal burners (burn the coal pay the toll), ovfuckyou issued the ridiculous non-sequitur that I was being ‘hypocritical’ in not believing that nationals, e.g., French, defending their nations and people against Nazi Germany should die. He said that. Just to test further how absurd he might be, I asked, what would you expect me to say to Polish people regarding Hitler? Ovfuckyou said that I should say to them that “Hitler was not so bad.” He said that, he really said that. I laughed, genuinely. On two different occasions he spoke of the good relations between Germans, including Nazi Germany, and Russia. Do I really need to look beyond the Leningrad and Stalingrad to cite examples of how relations were not necessarily so great between Hitler’s platform and the Russian folk? How about the Russian rapes of German women by war’s end for good Russian/Nazi rapport? Because I am not overly sympathetic to Germany’s arguments for WWI or WWII, let alone the destruction wrought by their war efforts in both cases, citing examples of destruction that ovfuckyou apparently didn’t want to hear about, he tried to insist that I was anti German. I repeat, in truth, that I am not anti German. I advocate Germans as I advocate all European peoples; but not only as arbitrary Europeans, I advocate the maintenance of our discreet kinds; in other words, Germany as an ethnostate for Germans and the capacity of German diaspora to maintain their kinds as well, whether coordinated through the DNA Nations or their German clubs and so on… the same rule structure that I advocate for all European peoples. When it would become clear to him that there were cogent White Nationalist arguments to be made without, even against the Nazi position, ovfuckyou not only tried to talk over, but to shout over; and when I recognized that he’s not going to talk in good faith and rose above his din by raising my own volume, he tried to say that he was triggering me and had won the debate - said that he couldn’t believe that I was Italian because Italians are not so “thin-skinned.” First of all, I thought that Italians were notoriously temperamental - my family certainly was. Secondly, why would I be so “thin skinned” as to not want to platform his stupidity, for ‘little issues’ like not wanting to include Hitler redemption in a WN platform, nor wanting to be bothered with holocaust denial - why would I be ‘so thin skinned as to not want to be associated with that?’ OvFredo presses down on his diaphragm for his trademark “well adjusted” fake chuckle that’s supposed to unnerve and disarm. When it didn’t work, when I did not want to be bothered with this recalcitrant idiot, he proceeded to berate me as a faggot, a Pollock and he said he would kick my ass. Ecce and I were off the air with ovfuckyou when he launched into this little tirade. Look at him. Who’s ass is he going to kick? Who is he going to unite with this sort of incitement under the banner of Hitler? This was followed by a series of abusive emails from ovfuckyou - all because I don’t love Hitler. It’s not enough to be ok with Germans, to want to ally with them, to fight on the same side in coordination of their interests, to advocate their German ethnostate, their diasporic species, not enough to view Jews as other, aliens with interests other than ours, predominantly hostile, requiring separatism - no. If I don’t love Hitler this asshole is going to to try to trash me. The road to hell can be paved with bad intentions as well. I’m asking you too, Ecce. Is that too hard a Rubix cube? Is there a sack big enough to accommodate ovfuckyou’s shit? And yet Ecce is all cool with him, says I’m being over sensitive. Perhaps the Regnery Circus might be there to rescue and underwrite ovfuckyou. Josh Neal endorses him. Checking all the right boxes. “Unite the right”, works real good ................. In sum, for me to take the honest position of advocating all European peoples, and the maintenance of their discreet kinds - I’m an ethnonationalist, so, Germany for Germans - and to extend the DNA Nations to maintain the discreet kinds of Europeans in diaspora as well; and furthermore, to say that I do not want present day Germans to feel guilty about history, nor do I - this was not enough for ovfuckyou. He starts attacking me, trying to belittle me as a “Pollock” and a “faggot”, and ostracize because I won’t genuflect to Hitler. Watch it kiddo. The road to hell can be paved with bad intentions as well. I’ve invited ovfuckyou to Europe, including Poland and parts east. You can tell the people for yourself how great Hitler was, how he was “not that bad.” Ovfuckyou, your stupidity is so destructive that there is no negative consequence that could come to you that would not leave me feeling just fine about it.
The independent documentary movie by Tomasz and Marek Sekielski brothers. This is truth about the Catholic Church in Poland.
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